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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Raymond Karczewski"
Date: 01 Nov 2003 04:45:22 PM
Object: WHAT IS A PATRIOT -- WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU?!!!
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WHAT IS A PATRIOT -- WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU?!!!
tac17 wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
t: > pa·tri·ot·ism
(ptr--tzm)
n.
Love of and devotion to one's country.
t: > Patriotism has little to do with devotion to a particular
government, whether they be satanic shells or not. We here in America
may not share the same life experiences or hold the same opinions on
certain issues. We may not be of the same ethnicity, nor religion nor
any other the other numerous divisors that we use to seperate ourselves
from others. We here in America are, whether we like it or not,
countrymen and women.
t: > To paraphrase the old saying;
Me against my brother.
My brother and me against my neighbor
My neighbor, my brother and me against my fellow townsmen.
My fellow townsmen, my neighbor, my brother and me against my fellow
countrymen.
My fellow countrymen, my fellow townsmen, my neighbor, my brother and me
against my neighbouring state.
My neighbouring state, my fellow country men, my fellow townsmen, my
neighbour, my brother and me against the world.
t: > In a way I think that sums up patriotism rather well. We may
bicker and squabble amongst ourselves but patriotism is what brings us
together in defense of our country. I may be a Christian or a Jew, or
rich or poor, or black or white, but I will gladly fight alongside any
man or woman that will defend this country alongside me. That is only my
opinion though.
rk: tac17, I now ask you to pay attention to the VERY CLEAR momentum
of your post, for therein lies the "rest of the story." Where does it
ultimately lead? To Peace or to War? To Love or to Hate? To At-one-ment
or to Division? To Life or to Death?
rk: > I rest my case!! The sadness of it all is that your
belief-based opinion is CONDITIONED NORMAL THINKING!! Satanic, Isn't
It?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
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User: "Tom Aldrich"

Title: Re: WHAT IS A PATRIOT -- WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU?!!! 01 Nov 2003 06:13:18 PM
Raymond Karczewski wrote:

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tac17 wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

t: > pa·tri·ot·ism
(ptr--tzm)
n.
Love of and devotion to one's country.

t: > Patriotism has little to do with devotion to a particular
government, whether they be satanic shells or not. We here in America
may not share the same life experiences or hold the same opinions on
certain issues. We may not be of the same ethnicity, nor religion nor
any other the other numerous divisors that we use to seperate ourselves
from others. We here in America are, whether we like it or not,
countrymen and women.

t: > To paraphrase the old saying;
Me against my brother.
My brother and me against my neighbor
My neighbor, my brother and me against my fellow townsmen.
My fellow townsmen, my neighbor, my brother and me against my fellow
countrymen.
My fellow countrymen, my fellow townsmen, my neighbor, my brother and me
against my neighbouring state.
My neighbouring state, my fellow country men, my fellow townsmen, my
neighbour, my brother and me against the world.

t: > In a way I think that sums up patriotism rather well. We may
bicker and squabble amongst ourselves but patriotism is what brings us
together in defense of our country. I may be a Christian or a Jew, or
rich or poor, or black or white, but I will gladly fight alongside any
man or woman that will defend this country alongside me. That is only my
opinion though.

rk: tac17, I now ask you to pay attention to the VERY CLEAR momentum
of your post, for therein lies the "rest of the story." Where does it
ultimately lead? To Peace or to War? To Love or to Hate? To At-one-ment
or to Division? To Life or to Death?

rk: > I rest my case!! The sadness of it all is that your
belief-based opinion is CONDITIONED NORMAL THINKING!! Satanic, Isn't
It?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ

I still want an explaination why every man,woman and child in Oregon owes
you $50, go to this guys web site and read what a greedy sod of a ***** this
guy is. He wants a quarter of a billions dollars from Qregon for his being
arrested for driving without a drivers license.
Jeasus fuckin christ Ray your greedy.



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User: "anonymous"

Title: Re: WHAT IS A PATRIOT -- WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU?!!! 03 Dec 2003 02:02:52 AM
This has been discussed ad nausea, and boy have you been cleverly
misinformed.
"Tom Aldrich" <TomAlrich@usenetserver.com> wrote in message
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I still want an explaination why every man,woman and child in Oregon owes
you $50,

They don't, Tommy. Only those who use property w/out consent of the owner.
Tommy, a name is an intangible property right, with a [interest] therein;
and
as such protected by the
Forth and Fifth Amendments. It's been asked of others, do you
contend it's right to steal/theft/take private property PRIOR to
due process, consent or compensation? By what authority is gov't
functioning when "taking" private property PRIOR to due process? Do you
believe the gov't can steal your property (house, boat, name, airplane
etc., ) prior to due process for the
mere convenience of foisting/forcing a contract upon you?
If so, cite your authority for doing so here ------>
Do you know the difference between what is, and is not private property? It
is only my
opinion, but Ray takes the matter of theft very seriously, as should all.
If you haven't the consent of the owner, to use his property, then YES the
owner
has a lawful right to compensation. Do you allow
the neighborhood bullies to use your, say automobile, without your
consent? And, if they've done so, would you not be entitled to compensation
for the use of that property? To the next level, if you chose not
to seek compensation, wouldn't that also be your rightful choice to make?
If property (house, boat, name, airplane, etc.,)
doesn't belong to you, it's not yours to do with as you please, prior to due
process, consent or compensation!
Also see;
From: "anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com>
Newsgroups:
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eform,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.misc
References: <3F98B4F8.6A01276D@arkenterprises.com>
<BD2mb.6299$9E1.31196@attbi_s52> <m0cmb.73280$vj2.25006@fed1read06>
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Subject: Re: Testing Jurisdiction of Josephine County Oregon Courts &
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It's been asked of you several times, do you contend it's right to
steal/theft/take private property PRIOR to due process, consent
or compensation? The name (intangible property right) was stolen PRIOR to
due process, Eddy. Don't you possess a 'certain interest' in your name?
Can others use it without your permission? Do you not understand that
possessing an 'interest' in a particular item is a [property] right
protected by the Bill of Rights? They were NOT just issuing tickets as you
say, Eddy!!! The
people of Josephine County stole private property without due process,
consent or compensation IN ORDER TO FOIST THE TICKET/CONTRACT UPON RAY. The
question persist, by what authority is gov't
functioning when [taking] private property PRIOR to due process? Here's a
hint, Eddy: "War Power"
Senate Report 93-549, November 19, 1973: "A majority of the people of the
United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40
years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution
have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states
of [national emergency].

go to this guys web site and read what a greedy sod of a ***** this
guy is.

Tommy, who owns your name?

He wants a quarter of a billions dollars from Qregon for his being
arrested for driving without a drivers license.

That's only a rough estimate. It's probably more, and should be. If due
process has not taken place, there's been no compensation to the owner PRIOR
to the use of his property, nor has the owner consented, then the owner is
allowed to charge as MUCH as he sees fit. You may not agree with the fee,
but it's not your place to disagree, Tommy. When you don't like it, you
won't use it!!! If you want to charge five dollars for monthly rent on your
property, is that not your right to do so? To the other extreme, if you
want to charge 500,000.00 dollars for each and every use, is that not your
right? Hopefully, people will learn not to steal/take/theft the property of
another w/out consent, due process, or compensation! Especially, 'civil
servants'!

Jeasus fuckin christ Ray your greedy.

No,Tommy, you're just cheep!
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User: "anonymous"

Title: Re: WHAT IS A PATRIOT -- WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU?!!! 07 Dec 2003 12:54:20 AM
"anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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No,Tommy, you're just cheep!



What? No ridicule? Where's the 'CHEAP" you fucking fool?
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: WHAT IS A PATRIOT -- WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU?!!! 06 Dec 2003 03:00:15 PM
In alt.politics.usa.misc, anonymous
<anonymous@anonymous.com>
wrote
on Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:54:20 -0800
<K1fAb.32205$9O5.5447@fed1read06>:


"anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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No,Tommy, you're just cheep!




What? No ridicule? Where's the 'CHEAP" you fucking fool?

Maybe a bird swallowed it? :-)
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#191,

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