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"grinder" |
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31 May 2005 03:14:30 PM |
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What is the liberal media? |
Could it be FOX - owned by Rupert Murdoch? He sits on the board of
directors of Phillip Morris which donated 2.9 million to Bush in 2000. He
also owns 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York
Post, the London Times and The Australian in addition to 25 magazines
including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard. Anyone want to call the Weekly
Standard liberal?
Maybe it is NBC owned by General Electric which donated 1.1 million to GW
Bush in 2000.
General Electric also owns CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and
Internet news service are co-owned by NBC and that bastion of liberalism:
Microsoft.
Could the liberal media really be ABC owned by Walt Disney who donated
$640,000 to Bush in 2000.
How about CBS which is owned by Viacom. The very same Viacom that was a
prime beneficiary of White House pressure to allow a single media
conglomerate to own enough television news outlets to reach 39 percent of
the nation (the other being FOX).
That leaves CNN which is owned by TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million
to GW's 2000 campaign) in addition to 33 magazines.
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| User: "Topaz" |
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| Title: Re: What is the liberal media? |
31 May 2005 08:20:56 PM |
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There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.
Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":
"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."
"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."
The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:
"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."
Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.
"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Coumbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"
"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."
"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."
"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg arre Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."
"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."
"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsideries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madamoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."
"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."
"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidlines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Suzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."
"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionare Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."
"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zucherman..."
" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."
"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of childrens
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."
"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."
"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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| User: "Ken" |
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| Title: Re: What is the liberal media? |
31 May 2005 11:57:14 PM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:GA3ne.3112$s64.2872@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Could it be FOX - owned by Rupert Murdoch? He sits on the board of
directors of Phillip Morris which donated 2.9 million to Bush in 2000. He
also owns 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York
Post, the London Times and The Australian in addition to 25 magazines
including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard. Anyone want to call the
Weekly Standard liberal?
Grinder, you should really work on your lying, since your figures are so
easy to check and refute.
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=2000
Maybe it is NBC owned by General Electric which donated 1.1 million to GW
Bush in 2000.
*****. GE didn't even rank in the top 20 contributors in 2000, where the
20th-ranked donation was less than half of the figure you lied about here.
General Electric also owns CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable
and Internet news service are co-owned by NBC and that bastion of
liberalism: Microsoft.
Could the liberal media really be ABC owned by Walt Disney who donated
$640,000 to Bush in 2000.
And donated $812,000 to the Demotard Party (from now forth referred to as
the Tard Party).
How about CBS which is owned by Viacom. The very same Viacom that was a
prime beneficiary of White House pressure to allow a single media
conglomerate to own enough television news outlets to reach 39 percent of
the nation (the other being FOX).
And donated $1,214,000, a whopping 78% of their total donations, to the Tard
Party in 2000. But Viacom outdid themselves by giving 81% to the Tards in
2004.
That leaves CNN which is owned by TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6
million to GW's 2000 campaign) in addition to 33 magazines.
*****. $1,462,000 (66%) went to the Tards and $753,000 (34%) to the
Republicans.
Next time, try being a little less of a ***** and list the other donations
you conveniently left out or simply lied about. Maybe you won't look like
such a moron and Tard kool-aid addict.
Have a nice day,
Ken
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| User: "Brandon K. Montoya" |
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01 Jun 2005 12:02:43 AM |
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Ken wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:GA3ne.3112$s64.2872@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Could it be FOX - owned by Rupert Murdoch? He sits on the board of
directors of Phillip Morris which donated 2.9 million to Bush in 2000. He
also owns 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York
Post, the London Times and The Australian in addition to 25 magazines
including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard. Anyone want to call the
Weekly Standard liberal?
Grinder, you should really work on your lying, since your figures are so
easy to check and refute.
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=2000
Nice site, thank you.
However, if these places were so, so, so deeply entrenched liberal (and
as by the true meaning of the definition "liberal media,"
anti-conservative), then why did they donate to the Republicans at all?
Maybe it is NBC owned by General Electric which donated 1.1 million to GW
Bush in 2000.
*****. GE didn't even rank in the top 20 contributors in 2000, where the
20th-ranked donation was less than half of the figure you lied about here.
General Electric also owns CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable
and Internet news service are co-owned by NBC and that bastion of
liberalism: Microsoft.
Could the liberal media really be ABC owned by Walt Disney who donated
$640,000 to Bush in 2000.
And donated $812,000 to the Demotard Party (from now forth referred to as
the Tard Party).
How about CBS which is owned by Viacom. The very same Viacom that was a
prime beneficiary of White House pressure to allow a single media
conglomerate to own enough television news outlets to reach 39 percent of
the nation (the other being FOX).
And donated $1,214,000, a whopping 78% of their total donations, to the Tard
Party in 2000. But Viacom outdid themselves by giving 81% to the Tards in
2004.
That leaves CNN which is owned by TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6
million to GW's 2000 campaign) in addition to 33 magazines.
*****. $1,462,000 (66%) went to the Tards and $753,000 (34%) to the
Republicans.
Next time, try being a little less of a ***** and list the other donations
you conveniently left out or simply lied about. Maybe you won't look like
such a moron and Tard kool-aid addict.
Have a nice day,
Ken
--
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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| User: "Ken" |
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01 Jun 2005 12:52:32 AM |
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"Brandon K. Montoya" <theintrepid@att.net> wrote in message
news:429D4125.F253C9C4@att.net...
Ken wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:GA3ne.3112$s64.2872@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Could it be FOX - owned by Rupert Murdoch? He sits on the board of
directors of Phillip Morris which donated 2.9 million to Bush in 2000.
He
also owns 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New
York
Post, the London Times and The Australian in addition to 25 magazines
including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard. Anyone want to call the
Weekly Standard liberal?
Grinder, you should really work on your lying, since your figures are so
easy to check and refute.
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=2000
Nice site, thank you.
However, if these places were so, so, so deeply entrenched liberal (and
as by the true meaning of the definition "liberal media,"
anti-conservative), then why did they donate to the Republicans at all?
Take a look at these figures from the same companies from the 1994 election,
when the Tards had total control of the elected federal government as the
Republicans have now, and see the contrast. It should be easy to see the
entrenched liberal bias:
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=1994
Time Warner -- 79% Democrats
Walt Disney -- 84% Democrats
Viacom -- 91% Democrats
Turner Broadcasting (which owned CNN exclusively at the time) -- 74%
Democrats
[GE did not donate enough in 1994 to qualify for these rankings]
Apparently, these networks didn't feel the need to give nearly as much to
the Republicans when they were out of power. But did the donations reverse
when Republicans held the power in Congress in 2000? Not hardly. How about
when the Repubs topped it off with awesome power of the presidency in 2002
and 2004?
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=2002
Nope!
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=B02&Cycle=2004
And Nope! The amounts and percentages move a little bit away from the Tards,
but the media is clearly entrenched with the Democrats even when they are
out of power and are completely their bitches when they have control in
Washington.
When comparing these numbers, it is so blatantly obvious these networks and
their parent companies have so much favor toward the Democrats that they
will donate against their own economic interests in order to further the
Democrats' agenda.
Have a nice day,
Ken
Maybe it is NBC owned by General Electric which donated 1.1 million to
GW
Bush in 2000.
*****. GE didn't even rank in the top 20 contributors in 2000, where
the
20th-ranked donation was less than half of the figure you lied about
here.
General Electric also owns CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour
cable
and Internet news service are co-owned by NBC and that bastion of
liberalism: Microsoft.
Could the liberal media really be ABC owned by Walt Disney who donated
$640,000 to Bush in 2000.
And donated $812,000 to the Demotard Party (from now forth referred to as
the Tard Party).
How about CBS which is owned by Viacom. The very same Viacom that was
a
prime beneficiary of White House pressure to allow a single media
conglomerate to own enough television news outlets to reach 39 percent
of
the nation (the other being FOX).
And donated $1,214,000, a whopping 78% of their total donations, to the
Tard
Party in 2000. But Viacom outdid themselves by giving 81% to the Tards in
2004.
That leaves CNN which is owned by TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6
million to GW's 2000 campaign) in addition to 33 magazines.
*****. $1,462,000 (66%) went to the Tards and $753,000 (34%) to the
Republicans.
Next time, try being a little less of a ***** and list the other
donations
you conveniently left out or simply lied about. Maybe you won't look like
such a moron and Tard kool-aid addict.
Have a nice day,
Ken
--
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since
their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as
Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs.
The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig
file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more
about it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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| User: "grinder" |
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01 Jun 2005 10:05:41 AM |
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Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive programs: 36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
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| User: "Robert Morrisette" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 03:28:44 PM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming
is
1:10?
Why are you liberals afraid to use the 'L' word?
Sabu
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| User: "grinder" |
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01 Jun 2005 03:42:58 PM |
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"Robert Morrisette" <writer77@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming
is
1:10?
Why are you liberals afraid to use the 'L' word?
Sabu
Top Gun has Lied.
Rumsfailed is a Liar.
Cheney is a Loon.
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| User: "Geo" |
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01 Jun 2005 10:12:34 AM |
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grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive programs: 36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
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| User: "grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 11:00:40 AM |
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"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
Study only covered Radio. As for T.V. I cannot think of a corresponding
"liberal" NETWORK to FOX.
Also I cannot think of a corresponding liberal program to counter:
Hannity and Colmes
Scarbourough Country
Tucker Carlson's new program
As for print there are publications on both sides.
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| User: "Geo" |
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01 Jun 2005 12:52:38 PM |
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grinder wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
Study only covered Radio. As for T.V. I cannot think of a corresponding
"liberal" NETWORK to FOX.
Also I cannot think of a corresponding liberal program to counter:
Hannity and Colmes
Crossfire.
Scarbourough Country
Phil Donahue. Oh, that's right, Scarborough replaced him.
Tucker Carlson's new program
Anything Chris Matthews.
As for print there are publications on both sides.
Weighted heavily towards liberal. Especially, the more influential
publications.
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| User: "grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 02:49:54 PM |
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"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117648357.936708.12630@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive
programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
Study only covered Radio. As for T.V. I cannot think of a corresponding
"liberal" NETWORK to FOX.
Also I cannot think of a corresponding liberal program to counter:
Hannity and Colmes
Crossfire.
Scarbourough Country
Phil Donahue. Oh, that's right, Scarborough replaced him.
Tucker Carlson's new program
Anything Chris Matthews.
the show which has Ann Coulter, Fromm and Frank Luntz as regular guests.
As for print there are publications on both sides.
Weighted heavily towards liberal. Especially, the more influential
publications.
Like the Wall Street Journal?
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 10:39:47 AM |
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"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
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| User: "Geo" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 12:40:05 PM |
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ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
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| User: "grinder" |
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01 Jun 2005 02:43:47 PM |
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"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117647605.026553.290850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive
programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
A scientific study is different that compiling facts.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 12:51:43 PM |
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"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117647605.026553.290850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
Some interesting reading here:
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
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| User: "grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 02:47:45 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:6zmne.61011$J25.44104@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117647605.026553.290850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive
programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
Some interesting reading here:
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
The findings are based upon how reporters and the media voted. That means
Rush Limbaugh would be considered a liberal if he voted progressive
regardless of the content of his broadcasts.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 03:27:06 PM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:Bhone.4777$MI4.587@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:6zmne.61011$J25.44104@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117647605.026553.290850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
Some interesting reading here:
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
The findings are based upon how reporters and the media voted. That means
Rush Limbaugh would be considered a liberal if he voted progressive regardless
of the content of his broadcasts.
Perhaps you should read all of it. It could
be enlightening.
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| User: "grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 03:39:36 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:LMone.50249$CR5.43414@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:Bhone.4777$MI4.587@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117647605.026553.290850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute
these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive
attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive
programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption
of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include
print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
Some interesting reading here:
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
The findings are based upon how reporters and the media voted. That
means Rush Limbaugh would be considered a liberal if he voted progressive
regardless of the content of his broadcasts.
Perhaps you should read all of it. It could
be enlightening.
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report. Otherwise, using
your study, there would have been minimal coverage of the impeachment
hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of talk radio,
T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 04:46:52 PM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report. Otherwise, using
your study, there would have been minimal coverage of the impeachment
hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of talk
radio,
T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
Anything that isn't Republican bashing is, to you, just a nuisance.
What a hypocritical jerk.
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| User: "Sid9" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 04:50:23 PM |
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The Pervert wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report. Otherwise,
using your study, there would have been minimal coverage of the
impeachment hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of talk
radio, T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
Anything that isn't Republican bashing is, to you, just a nuisance.
What a hypocritical jerk.
"Liberal Media" is a Republican code word for "We don't like the truth
disclosed"
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| User: "John Agosta" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 05:31:21 PM |
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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:B1qne.38168$8S5.6546@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
The Pervert wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report. Otherwise,
using your study, there would have been minimal coverage of the
impeachment hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of talk
radio, T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
Anything that isn't Republican bashing is, to you, just a nuisance.
What a hypocritical jerk.
"Liberal Media" is a Republican code word for "We don't like the truth
disclosed"
Ain't that the truth !
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
02 Jun 2005 12:03:32 AM |
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"John Agosta" <j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom> wrote in message
news:S9Cdnfb5_q-nqgPfRVn-2g@wideopenwest.com...
"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:B1qne.38168$8S5.6546@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
"Liberal Media" is a Republican code word for "We don't like the truth
disclosed"
Ain't that the truth !
No, it isn't. But since you apparently don't have much use for the truth,
why should you care?
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
02 Jun 2005 12:08:53 AM |
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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:B1qne.38168$8S5.6546@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
The Pervert wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report. Otherwise,
using your study, there would have been minimal coverage of the
impeachment hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of talk
radio, T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
Anything that isn't Republican bashing is, to you, just a nuisance.
What a hypocritical jerk.
"Liberal Media" is a Republican code word for "We don't like the truth
disclosed"
Oooo, code words! How fun! Just ignore all those pesky facts and
statistics.
Doesn't all that conspiracy stuff get you excited and stuff? Or does it
just make you feel good to be a chronic victim. (That's a code word for
loser... at least according to the past several elections. But they were
all rigged, weren't they. Every single one of them.)
Abandon all hope now. You're doomed. Yes, Sid, they sky is falling.
You're fucked.
Again.
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| User: "Sid9" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
02 Jun 2005 08:34:16 AM |
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The Pervert wrote:
"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:B1qne.38168$8S5.6546@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
The Pervert wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report.
Otherwise, using your study, there would have been minimal
coverage of the impeachment hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of
talk radio, T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
Anything that isn't Republican bashing is, to you, just a nuisance.
What a hypocritical jerk.
"Liberal Media" is a Republican code word for "We don't like the
truth disclosed"
Oooo, code words! How fun! Just ignore all those pesky facts and
statistics.
Doesn't all that conspiracy stuff get you excited and stuff? Or does
it just make you feel good to be a chronic victim. (That's a code
word for loser... at least according to the past several elections.
But they were all rigged, weren't they. Every single one of them.)
Abandon all hope now. You're doomed. Yes, Sid, they sky is falling.
You're fucked.
Again.
It's not "who" writes the news articles.
It's the "content"
The RRR doesn't deny the contents...they attack the messenger
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
02 Jun 2005 08:51:26 AM |
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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:7PDne.49676$lQ3.8864@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
The Pervert wrote:
"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:B1qne.38168$8S5.6546@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
The Pervert wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report.
Otherwise, using your study, there would have been minimal
coverage of the impeachment hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of
talk radio, T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
Anything that isn't Republican bashing is, to you, just a nuisance.
What a hypocritical jerk.
"Liberal Media" is a Republican code word for "We don't like the
truth disclosed"
Oooo, code words! How fun! Just ignore all those pesky facts and
statistics.
Doesn't all that conspiracy stuff get you excited and stuff? Or does
it just make you feel good to be a chronic victim. (That's a code
word for loser... at least according to the past several elections.
But they were all rigged, weren't they. Every single one of them.)
Abandon all hope now. You're doomed. Yes, Sid, they sky is falling.
You're fucked.
Again.
It's not "who" writes the news articles.
It's the "content"
The RRR doesn't deny the contents...they attack the messenger
Like this from the left:
"Ah - the viciously partisan, built-to-lie MRC. No, thanks."
And this:
"Like the Wall Street Journal?"
Or this:
"Top Gun has Lied.
Rumsfailed is a Liar.
Cheney is a Loon."
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| User: "grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
02 Jun 2005 10:36:08 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:7PDne.49676$lQ3.8864@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
The Pervert wrote:
"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:B1qne.38168$8S5.6546@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
The Pervert wrote:
"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote
How reporters vote is not indicative of how they report.
Otherwise, using your study, there would have been minimal
coverage of the impeachment hearings and the Lewinski affair.
I will wait for you to show me a study comparing the NUMBER of
talk radio, T.V. and print which is conservative or progressive.
Anything else is just evasive noise.
Anything that isn't Republican bashing is, to you, just a nuisance.
What a hypocritical jerk.
"Liberal Media" is a Republican code word for "We don't like the
truth disclosed"
Oooo, code words! How fun! Just ignore all those pesky facts and
statistics.
Doesn't all that conspiracy stuff get you excited and stuff? Or does
it just make you feel good to be a chronic victim. (That's a code
word for loser... at least according to the past several elections.
But they were all rigged, weren't they. Every single one of them.)
Abandon all hope now. You're doomed. Yes, Sid, they sky is falling.
You're fucked.
Again.
It's not "who" writes the news articles.
It's the "content"
The RRR doesn't deny the contents...they attack the messenger
Like this from the left:
"Ah - the viciously partisan, built-to-lie MRC. No, thanks."
And this:
"Like the Wall Street Journal?"
Or this:
"Top Gun has Lied.
Rumsfailed is a Liar.
Cheney is a Loon."
A question was asked. I answered.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 01:24:50 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:6zmne.61011$J25.44104@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117647605.026553.290850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive
programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
Some interesting reading here:
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
If you study their methodology, you find it treats all think tank opinions
as legitimate. Since the republican party has more to spend - and spends
much more - on fake think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the
American Enterprise Institute, their study itself is flawed.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 02:12:37 PM |
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:d7kuhi$278$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:6zmne.61011$J25.44104@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117647605.026553.290850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1117638754.114133.76400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
Some interesting reading here:
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
If you study their methodology, you find it treats all think tank opinions as
legitimate. Since the republican party has more to spend - and spends much
more - on fake think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the American
Enterprise Institute, their study itself is flawed.
A couple items ...
See note 1.
What are your credentials?
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 02:24:24 PM |
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:d7kuhi$278$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:6zmne.61011$J25.44104@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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ouroboros rex wrote:
"Geo" <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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grinder wrote:
Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming
is
1:10?
Results of a 2004 study by democracy radio
(It will be fun to count the number of posts that don't refute these
stats
or the study's methodology but will counter with an evasive attacking
response.)
Total number of local Conservative programs: 149
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Conservative
programs:
142
Weekly broadcast hours of local Conservative programs: 2,349
Total number of national Conservative programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Conservative programs: 3,394
Weekly broadcast hours of national Conservative programs: 39,382
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Conservative
programs:
41,731
Total number of local Progressive programs: 49
Total number of radio stations that broadcast local Progressive
programs:
36
Weekly broadcast hours of local Progressive programs: 555
Total number of national Progressive programs: 19
Total of affiliates for national Progressive programs: 250
Weekly broadcast hours of national Progressive programs: 2,487
Total weekly broadcast hours of local and national Progressive programs:
3,042
I won't dispute the results. But, why do you base your assumption of
"what liberal media" only on radio broadcasting and not include print
media and television?
If you've been reading the group, you know he's already done TV.
Well, that's a rather interesting comment seeing as grinder admitted
that he couldn't find a study.
Some interesting reading here:
http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
If you study their methodology, you find it treats all think tank opinions as
legitimate. Since the republican party has more to spend - and spends much
more - on fake think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the American
Enterprise Institute, their study itself is flawed.
Statistically, that makes no difference.
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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| Title: Re: Liberal Media? Hardly |
01 Jun 2005 10:28:35 AM |
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seagle@earthlink.invalid (grinder) wrote in
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Liberal Media? When the ratio of progressive to conservative
programming is 1:10?
I can only guess that you're talking about "talk radio". Is that
right?
If so, what of the rest of the world?
You'll be providing similarly insightful analysis of all print media
real soon, right?
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |
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