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Politics > Politics-USA |
| User: |
"Harry Hope" |
| Date: |
14 Jul 2007 12:36:55 PM |
| Object: |
What is today's definition of Republican Bush's "mission" in Iraq |
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of ‘Mission’ In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly revising the
definition of our “mission” in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush claimed
“satisfactory” progress in many areas of the “new mission” in Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our “mission” in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S. forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: “Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our
mission is very clear: disarmament.” [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: “Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein’s support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.” [3/22/03]
Bush: “Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long.”
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: “On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations in
Iraq have ended.” [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: “The United States and our allies will complete our mission
in Iraq.” [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: “That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens.” [11/4/03]
Bush: “We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission.” [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: “And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do.” [6/2/05]
Bush: “We’re making progress toward the goal, which is, on the one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will — we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace.” [6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: “We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission.
… Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the mission
that created our nation — and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans.” [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: “In the coming days, there will be considerable reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining mission
in Iraq…By helping the Iraqi people build a free and representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan attacks
against America.” [3/11/06]
Bush: “We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor they
have earned.” [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: “In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission: helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts Iraqis in
the lead.” [1/13/07]
Bush: “[I]t’s the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training that
is the current mission we’re going through, with a heavy emphasis on
security in Baghdad.” [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: “It’s a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation — to build a free nation that respects the rights of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war.” [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: What is today's definition of Republican Bush's "mission" in Iraq |
14 Jul 2007 02:26:17 PM |
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As long as they still want to succeed, I have not trouble with trying
something different, especially if they believe that what they have been
trying to do, is not working as well as some new tactic. the goal is what
is important, not the tactic....
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:hd2i931f47nsl5arte1jpepr5pnfskpv59@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of 'Mission' In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly revising the
definition of our "mission" in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush claimed
"satisfactory" progress in many areas of the "new mission" in Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our "mission" in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S. forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: "Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our
mission is very clear: disarmament." [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: "Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people." [3/22/03]
Bush: "Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long."
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: "On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations in
Iraq have ended." [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: "The United States and our allies will complete our mission
in Iraq." [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: "That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens." [11/4/03]
Bush: "We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission." [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: "And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do." [6/2/05]
Bush: "We're making progress toward the goal, which is, on the one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will - we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace." [6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission.
. Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the mission
that created our nation - and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans." [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: "In the coming days, there will be considerable reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining mission
in Iraq.By helping the Iraqi people build a free and representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan attacks
against America." [3/11/06]
Bush: "We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor they
have earned." [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: "In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission: helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts Iraqis in
the lead." [1/13/07]
Bush: "[I]t's the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training that
is the current mission we're going through, with a heavy emphasis on
security in Baghdad." [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: "It's a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation - to build a free nation that respects the rights of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war." [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
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| User: "JHR" |
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| Title: Re: What is today's definition of Republican Bush's "mission" in Iraq |
14 Jul 2007 08:26:58 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46994d90$0$4691$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
As long as they still want to succeed, I have not trouble with trying
something different, especially if they believe that what they have been
trying to do, is not working as well as some new tactic. the goal is what
is important, not the tactic....
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:hd2i931f47nsl5arte1jpepr5pnfskpv59@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of 'Mission' In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly revising the
definition of our "mission" in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush claimed
"satisfactory" progress in many areas of the "new mission" in Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our "mission" in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S. forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: "Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our
mission is very clear: disarmament." [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: "Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people." [3/22/03]
Bush: "Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long."
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: "On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations in
Iraq have ended." [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: "The United States and our allies will complete our mission
in Iraq." [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: "That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens." [11/4/03]
Bush: "We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission." [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: "And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do." [6/2/05]
Bush: "We're making progress toward the goal, which is, on the one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will - we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace." [6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission.
. Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the mission
that created our nation - and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans." [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: "In the coming days, there will be considerable reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining mission
in Iraq.By helping the Iraqi people build a free and representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan attacks
against America." [3/11/06]
Bush: "We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor they
have earned." [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: "In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission: helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts Iraqis in
the lead." [1/13/07]
Bush: "[I]t's the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training that
is the current mission we're going through, with a heavy emphasis on
security in Baghdad." [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: "It's a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation - to build a free nation that respects the rights of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war." [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
So what you're saying Jerry is that it is OK to keep changing the goal?
The tactics haven't changed much, it is the goal (mission) that keeps
changing.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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16 Jul 2007 11:30:12 AM |
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"JHR" <BadEnergyPolicy@USA.com> wrote in message
news:hvGdnYFAbM906gTbnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@trueband.net...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46994d90$0$4691$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
As long as they still want to succeed, I have not trouble with trying
something different, especially if they believe that what they have been
trying to do, is not working as well as some new tactic. the goal is
what is important, not the tactic....
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:hd2i931f47nsl5arte1jpepr5pnfskpv59@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of 'Mission' In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly revising the
definition of our "mission" in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush claimed
"satisfactory" progress in many areas of the "new mission" in Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our "mission" in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S. forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: "Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our
mission is very clear: disarmament." [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: "Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people." [3/22/03]
Bush: "Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long."
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: "On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations in
Iraq have ended." [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: "The United States and our allies will complete our mission
in Iraq." [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: "That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens." [11/4/03]
Bush: "We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission." [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: "And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do." [6/2/05]
Bush: "We're making progress toward the goal, which is, on the one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will - we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace." [6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission.
. Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the mission
that created our nation - and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans." [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: "In the coming days, there will be considerable reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining mission
in Iraq.By helping the Iraqi people build a free and representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan attacks
against America." [3/11/06]
Bush: "We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor they
have earned." [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: "In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission: helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts Iraqis in
the lead." [1/13/07]
Bush: "[I]t's the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training that
is the current mission we're going through, with a heavy emphasis on
security in Baghdad." [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: "It's a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation - to build a free nation that respects the rights of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war." [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
So what you're saying Jerry is that it is OK to keep changing the goal?
The tactics haven't changed much, it is the goal (mission) that keeps
changing.
No!!! The goal is the same, SUCCESS!!! I am talking about changing tactics
to achieve the goal....
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| User: "Lamont Cranston" |
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| Title: Re: What is today's definition of Republican Bush's "mission" in Iraq |
16 Jul 2007 03:24:24 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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"JHR" <BadEnergyPolicy@USA.com> wrote in message
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46994d90$0$4691$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
As long as they still want to succeed, I have not trouble with
trying something different, especially if they believe that what
they have been trying to do, is not working as well as some new
tactic. the goal is what is important, not the tactic....
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:hd2i931f47nsl5arte1jpepr5pnfskpv59@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of 'Mission' In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly
revising the
definition of our "mission" in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush
claimed
"satisfactory" progress in many areas of the "new mission" in
Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our "mission" in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S.
forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission
will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: "Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in,
our
mission is very clear: disarmament." [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: "Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve
and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq
of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people." [3/22/03]
Bush: "Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a
regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long."
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: "On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now
headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause
of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations
in
Iraq have ended." [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: "The United States and our allies will complete our
mission
in Iraq." [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: "That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens." [11/4/03]
Bush: "We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission." [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: "And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can
stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do." [6/2/05]
Bush: "We're making progress toward the goal, which is, on the
one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the
other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will -
we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace."
[6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the
mission.
. Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the
mission
that created our nation - and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans." [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: "In the coming days, there will be considerable
reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining
mission
in Iraq.By helping the Iraqi people build a free and
representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan
attacks
against America." [3/11/06]
Bush: "We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists
in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor
they
have earned." [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: "In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission:
helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts
Iraqis in
the lead." [1/13/07]
Bush: "[I]t's the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training
that
is the current mission we're going through, with a heavy emphasis
on
security in Baghdad." [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: "It's a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq
carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation - to build a free nation that respects the rights
of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war." [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
So what you're saying Jerry is that it is OK to keep changing the
goal?
The tactics haven't changed much, it is the goal (mission) that
keeps changing.
No!!! The goal is the same, SUCCESS!!! I am talking about changing
tactics to achieve the goal....
Define "SUCCESS."
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| User: "Jeff" |
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| Title: Re: What is today's definition of Republican Bush's "mission" inIraq |
16 Jul 2007 07:49:21 PM |
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Lamont Cranston wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:469bc748$0$8042$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
"JHR" <BadEnergyPolicy@USA.com> wrote in message
news:hvGdnYFAbM906gTbnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@trueband.net...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46994d90$0$4691$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
As long as they still want to succeed, I have not trouble with
trying something different, especially if they believe that what
they have been trying to do, is not working as well as some new
tactic. the goal is what is important, not the tactic....
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:hd2i931f47nsl5arte1jpepr5pnfskpv59@4ax.com...
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of 'Mission' In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly
revising the
definition of our "mission" in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush
claimed
"satisfactory" progress in many areas of the "new mission" in
Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our "mission" in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S.
forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission
will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: "Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in,
our
mission is very clear: disarmament." [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: "Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve
and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq
of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people." [3/22/03]
Bush: "Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a
regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long."
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: "On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now
headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause
of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations
in
Iraq have ended." [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: "The United States and our allies will complete our
mission
in Iraq." [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: "That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens." [11/4/03]
Bush: "We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission." [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: "And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can
stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do." [6/2/05]
Bush: "We're making progress toward the goal, which is, on the
one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the
other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will -
we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace."
[6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the
mission.
. Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the
mission
that created our nation - and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans." [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: "In the coming days, there will be considerable
reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining
mission
in Iraq.By helping the Iraqi people build a free and
representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan
attacks
against America." [3/11/06]
Bush: "We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists
in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor
they
have earned." [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: "In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission:
helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts
Iraqis in
the lead." [1/13/07]
Bush: "[I]t's the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training
that
is the current mission we're going through, with a heavy emphasis
on
security in Baghdad." [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: "It's a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq
carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation - to build a free nation that respects the rights
of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war." [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
So what you're saying Jerry is that it is OK to keep changing the
goal?
The tactics haven't changed much, it is the goal (mission) that
keeps changing.
No!!! The goal is the same, SUCCESS!!! I am talking about changing
tactics to achieve the goal....
Define "SUCCESS."
Dumping the whole steaming crock on the doorstep of the next president
so you don't have to say the war was lost during W's tenure.
It's been said that the reason that there has never been a plan for an
exit strategy was that W never intended to exit. That as long we were
there it was a success. Certainly explains why all that talk about
spreading democracy across the mideast through the example of Iraq
hasn't been heard lately. Neither have we heard "as they stand up, we'll
stand down". For al-Maliki, success seems to be staying in office.
But loud talk and low personal standards seems to be a repug hallmark.
Jeff
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In article <hd2i931f47nsl5arte1jpepr5pnfskpv59@4ax.com>, Harry Hope
<rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of ÎMissionâ In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly revising the
definition of our ãmissionä in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq
/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush claimed
ãsatisfactoryä progress in many areas of the ãnew missionä in Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our ãmissionä in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S. forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: ãOur mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our
mission is very clear: disarmament.ä [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: ãOur cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Husseinâs support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.ä [3/22/03]
Bush: ãOur forces have been given a clear mission: to end a regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long.ä
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: ãOn Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations in
Iraq have ended.ä [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: ãThe United States and our allies will complete our mission
in Iraq.ä [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: ãThat has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens.ä [11/4/03]
Bush: ãWe will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission.ä [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: ãAnd our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do.ä [6/2/05]
Bush: ãWeâre making progress toward the goal, which is, on the one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will ÷ we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace.ä [6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: ãWe will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission.
· Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the mission
that created our nation ÷ and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans.ä [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: ãIn the coming days, there will be considerable reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining mission
in Iraq·By helping the Iraqi people build a free and representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan attacks
against America.ä [3/11/06]
Bush: ãWe will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor they
have earned.ä [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: ãIn fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission: helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts Iraqis in
the lead.ä [1/13/07]
Bush: ã[I]tâs the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training that
is the current mission weâre going through, with a heavy emphasis on
security in Baghdad.ä [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: ãItâs a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation ÷ to build a free nation that respects the rights of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war.ä [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
--------------------------------------------------------------
The object of the war is NOT what Bush SAYS because the object of
the war was, has been, and IS -- to transfer the contents of the U.S.
Treasury to his supporters, the war profiteers; to enhance his
"Unitary" powers,
and to dominate the oil resources of the middle east.
Continuation of the war continues the looting of the treasury and
confirms his "war presidency".
Bush and his supporters win whether or not the "war" is "won".
--------------------------------------------------------------
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"Cass Andra" <netpost@pochta.ru> wrote in message
news:140720072037576091%netpost@pochta.ru...
In article <hd2i931f47nsl5arte1jpepr5pnfskpv59@4ax.com>, Harry Hope
<rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of ŒMission‚ In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly revising the
definition of our „mission‰ in Iraq.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-mission-in-iraq
/
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush claimed
„satisfactory‰ progress in many areas of the „new mission‰ in Iraq.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our „mission‰ in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S. forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: „Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our
mission is very clear: disarmament.‰ [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: „Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein‚s support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.‰ [3/22/03]
Bush: „Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long.‰
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: „On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations in
Iraq have ended.‰ [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: „The United States and our allies will complete our mission
in Iraq.‰ [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: „That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens.‰ [11/4/03]
Bush: „We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission.‰ [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: „And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do.‰ [6/2/05]
Bush: „We‚re making progress toward the goal, which is, on the one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will ˜ we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace.‰ [6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: „We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission.
∑ Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the mission
that created our nation ˜ and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans.‰ [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: „In the coming days, there will be considerable reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining mission
in Iraq∑By helping the Iraqi people build a free and representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan attacks
against America.‰ [3/11/06]
Bush: „We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor they
have earned.‰ [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: „In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission: helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts Iraqis in
the lead.‰ [1/13/07]
Bush: „[I]t‚s the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training that
is the current mission we‚re going through, with a heavy emphasis on
security in Baghdad.‰ [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: „It‚s a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation ˜ to build a free nation that respects the rights of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war.‰ [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
--------------------------------------------------------------
The object of the war is NOT what Bush SAYS because the object of
the war was, has been, and IS -- to transfer the contents of the U.S.
Treasury to his supporters, the war profiteers; to enhance his
"Unitary" powers,
and to dominate the oil resources of the middle east.
Continuation of the war continues the looting of the treasury and
confirms his "war presidency".
Bush and his supporters win whether or not the "war" is "won".
Having a reliable source or for that matter any critical raw material, is
very important. Without a reliable source of oil the economies of the
United States, and the world would collapse.
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On Jul 14, 1:36 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/14/changing-mission/
July 14, 2007
The Ever Changing Definition of 'Mission' In Iraq
By Jordan Grossman
In June 2005, ThinkProgress noted the Bush was constantly revising the
definition of our "mission" in Iraq.http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/21/the-changing-definition-of-missio...
Reporting on his escalation strategy this week, President Bush claimed
"satisfactory" progress in many areas of the "new mission" in Iraq.http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070628-14.html
Bush has changed the definition of our "mission" in Iraq so many
times, he has made it impossible for the American public, U.S. forces,
and the Iraqi population to have any confidence that the mission will
be ever completed.
THE PRE-WAR MISSION WAS TO RID IRAQ OF WMD
Bush: "Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our
mission is very clear: disarmament." [3/6/03]
AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, THE MISSION EXPANDED
Bush: "Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and
the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of
weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for
terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people." [3/22/03]
Bush: "Our forces have been given a clear mission: to end a regime
that threatened its neighbors and the world with weapons of mass
destruction and to free a people that had suffered far too long."
[4/14/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS COMPLETE
Bush: "On Thursday, I visited the USS Abraham Lincoln, now headed
home after the longest carrier deployment in recent history. I
delivered good news to the men and women who fought in the cause of
freedom: Their mission is complete, and major combat operations in
Iraq have ended." [5/3/03]
BUT THEN IT CONTINUED AGAIN
Bush: "The United States and our allies will complete our mission
in Iraq." [7/30/03]
THEN THE MISSION WAS TO DEVELOP A FREE IRAQ
Bush: "That has been our mission all along, to develop the
conditions such that a free Iraq will emerge, run by the Iraqi
citizens." [11/4/03]
Bush: "We will see that Iraq is free and self-governing and
democratic. We will accomplish our mission." [5/4/04]
AND TO TRAIN THE IRAQI TROOPS
Bush: "And our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to
train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting; make sure they can stand
up to defend their freedoms, which they want to do." [6/2/05]
Bush: "We're making progress toward the goal, which is, on the one
hand, a political process moving forward in Iraq, and on the other
hand, the Iraqis capable of defending themselves. And we will - we
will complete this mission for the sake of world peace." [6/20/05]
THEN IT SHIFTED TO ADVANCING DEMOCRACY
Bush: "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission.
... Advancing the ideal of democracy and self-government is the mission
that created our nation - and now it is the calling of a new
generation of Americans." [11/30/05]
AND PROTECTING AMERICA FROM TERRORISTS
Bush: "In the coming days, there will be considerable reflection
on the removal of Saddam Hussein from power and our remaining mission
in Iraq...By helping the Iraqi people build a free and representative
government, we will deny the terrorists a safe haven to plan attacks
against America." [3/11/06]
Bush: "We will finish the mission. By defeating the terrorists in
Iraq, we will bring greater security to our own country. And when
victory is achieved, our troops will return home with the honor they
have earned." [3/18/06]
THEN THE MISSION WAS PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THE IRAQI POPULATION
Bush: "In fact, we have a new strategy with a new mission: helping
secure the population, especially in Baghdad. Our plan puts Iraqis in
the lead." [1/13/07]
Bush: "[I]t's the combination of providing security in
neighborhoods through these joint security stations, and training that
is the current mission we're going through, with a heavy emphasis on
security in Baghdad." [4/10/07]
AND NOW?
Bush: "It's a new mission. And David Petraeus is in Iraq carrying
it out. Its goal is to help the Iraqis make progress toward
reconciliation - to build a free nation that respects the rights of
its people, upholds the rule of law, and is an ally against the
extremists in this war." [6/28/07]
___________________________________________________
But what is Georgie's "real" mission?
Harry
It's spelled O I L .
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