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"~ 1,224 US OlL NAZIS SUCKING SATANS DICK" |
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20 Nov 2004 08:15:52 PM |
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What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
Were they always Nazis?
They *did* wipe out the Indians after all...
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| User: "Alan McIntire" |
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| Title: Re: What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
21 Nov 2004 12:09:45 PM |
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"~ 1,224 US OlL NAZIS SUCKING SATAN'S ***** ~" <GO_TO_HELL@BRING_EM_ON.COM> wrote in message news:<1101003354.IQZmktiBQM8NkUpD7xUHZA@teranews>...
Were they always Nazis?
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What a bunch of crap! If Bush was a NAZI he'd side with the Arab
totalitarian states in their efforts to destroy the Jewish state of
Israel; he'd be all in favor of government supported stem cell
research, using the
foetuses of involuntarily aborted non- Caucasians; he'd support
federal gun control efforts;
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| User: "Thom" |
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| Title: Re: What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
22 Nov 2004 05:58:58 PM |
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On 21 Nov 2004 10:09:45 -0800, (Alan McIntire)
wrote:
"~ 1,224 US OlL NAZIS SUCKING SATAN'S ***** ~" <GO_TO_HELL@BRING_EM_ON.COM> wrote in message news:<1101003354.IQZmktiBQM8NkUpD7xUHZA@teranews>...
Were they always Nazis?
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What a bunch of crap! If Bush was a NAZI he'd side with the Arab
totalitarian states in their efforts to destroy the Jewish state of
Israel; he'd be all in favor of government supported stem cell
research, using the
foetuses of involuntarily aborted non- Caucasians; he'd support
federal gun control efforts;
he already does support gun control! he lied to us (he does that
alot) in 2000 when he said he'd rid us of gun control and he has done
NOTHING!!!
THOM
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| User: "Russell James Simmons" |
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| Title: Re: What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
21 Nov 2004 01:26:19 PM |
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After having read all of the left-wing liberal nonsense and name
calling that has proliferated across the Internet and has spilled its
way over onto more mainstream media in recent weeks I have reached the
conclusion that if the Republicans did steal the election it was in
the best interest of the United States of America. As such I am forced
to admit that I will support such action again in 2008 if the left
does not squelch the ranting of their extremist groups. We can not
allow this country to fall to the mentally ill, emotionally unstable
left wing radicals that cry out for the death of our president, the
downfall of our government and the killing of our sons and daughters
overseas. These posts are beginning to sound so angry, so despicable
and anti-American that it is plausable to assume that they are comming
straight from some Radical Islamic terrorist group or sympathizer
organization and that they are actually a propoganda attack against
this country. Perhaps we should consider the arrest and confinement of
the persons in these hate groups. No one should be allowed to hide
behind claims of citizenship and the right of free speech in order to
use lies and deceit to attack our from of government or our social and
moral systems and beliefs. While the originators, organizers and
leaders of these groups need to be forever prevented from spreading
their poison to others the victims of this propoganda should be
offered the opportunity to rehabilitate themselves. If and when these
rehabilitated persons can learn to exibit evidence that they deserve
the right of free speech by communicating their point of view in a
more civil manner without resorting to behaviour that demeans and
disrespects others as well as themselves they may be allowed to return
to society.
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| User: "J Dubya" |
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| Title: Re: What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
22 Nov 2004 08:47:49 AM |
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~ 1,224 US OlL NAZIS SUCKING SATAN'S ***** ~ wrote:
Were they always Nazis?
They *did* wipe out the Indians after all...
Bush is a smug, reactionary dimwit, but he's no Nazi.
AFAIK, we don't have any mass extermination camps,
and a particular religion or race hasn't been
persecuted nearly to extinction.
His admin. *has* used propaganda techniques that
the Nazis pioneered to good effect, however.
-J Dubya
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| User: "Thom" |
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22 Nov 2004 06:00:59 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:47:49 -0500, J Dubya <jbwinston@gmail.com>
wrote:
~ 1,224 US OlL NAZIS SUCKING SATAN'S ***** ~ wrote:
Were they always Nazis?
They *did* wipe out the Indians after all...
Bush is a smug, reactionary dimwit, but he's no Nazi.
AFAIK, we don't have any mass extermination camps,
so places like ABU Prison and Gitmo are R&R centers?
and a particular religion or race hasn't been
persecuted nearly to extinction.
Really? Bush I tried to exterminate the Davidians but he lost the
election and the hit happened under Clinton who screwed things up with
Reno. Ask the American Indians about extermination under right wing
presidents.
THOM
His admin. *has* used propaganda techniques that
the Nazis pioneered to good effect, however.
-J Dubya
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| User: "Pennsylvania Dutch" |
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23 Nov 2004 07:58:02 AM |
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BIRCHWOOD, Wis. - Yesterday, a Hmong immigrant from the 24,000-strong
"Hmong community" of St. Paul, Minnesota crossed the border into
Wisconsin on a hunting trip.
Armed with a high-velocity semi-automatic assault-style rifle, Chai
Vang, 36, wandered onto private property, ignoring the bright orange "no
trespassing" signs and took a position in someone else's hunting platform.
Locals have complained that the Hmong, a tribe from the jungles of
Southeast Asia, have no respect for the concept of private property and
hunt wherever they see fit. Apparently this is true. When Vang was
confronted by two White people -- a man and his son -- instead of moving
on, he shot them both. Before dying, the father managed to radio for
help. Six of his hunting companions converged at the scene on two ATV's
and were immediately fired upon. Those who were not hit fled into the
woods but were chased down and shot.
Unfortunately, the eight Whites had only one gun between them. It is not
known if they fired even one shot in return.
After killing the five Whites and wounding three, the Hmong immigrant
reversed his orange vest to the camouflage side to avoid capture, and
attempted to flee the area. However, lost in the woods, he required the
assistance of two more Whites to find his way out. Luckily for the two
Whites, Vang was out of ammunition. For a complete report see the AP
link below.
In February of 2003, the FBI released a law enforcement bulletin warning
that throughout the United States, the level of Hmong criminal activity
was increasing in severity. Extracts from the FBI bulletin:
The Hmong have become involved in a wide range of crimes, such as
homicides, gang rapes, prostitution, home invasions, burglaries, auto
thefts, and, most recently, the sale and distribution of illicit drugs.
In the St. Paul/Minneapolis area during the summer of 1999. Within about
a 6-week period, at least 22 shootings were reported.
Hmong gangs have considerable mobility. It is not uncommon for gang
members to drive from California to North Carolina, stopping en route to
visit fellow gang members in other states, such as Minnesota or
Wisconsin. Many times, these gangs transport guns to another state and
commit crimes in transit. Because of this mobility, law enforcement
agencies investigating these gangs must maintain a high level of
communication to effectively track gang activity.
Hmong gangs also present a violent threat to people who are not members
of gangs. The most frequent and violent crimes against nongang members
are rape and prostitution.
In Warren, Michigan, several members of a Hmong gang were arrested for
repeatedly raping teenage girls who they had held prisoner for nearly 3
weeks. The victims came from Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
The lead investigator stated that the case was so large that officials
had to pursue it in three phases. In the first phase, the grand jury
handed down 350 indictments on 14 suspects. Eleven of the suspects pled
guilty and received sentences ranging from 17 to 31 years in prison. Two
other gang members got 280 years and 4 months and 94 years and 4 months,
respectively, in prison. The second phase consisted of the grand jury
handing down a 323-count indictment and several of the suspects pleading
guilty. The third phase included 9 victims and 20 suspects, in which the
grand jury handed down an 826-count indictment. Several suspects pled
guilty and others were found guilty.
Associated Press Report
15,000 Hmong Head for Minnesota
Wisconsin: New Flood of Hmong Refugees Will Strain Already Tight Budgets
Which Way, Milwaukee?
FBI Bulletin
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| User: "J Dubya" |
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| Title: Re: What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
22 Nov 2004 06:53:51 PM |
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Thom wrote:
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:47:49 -0500, J Dubya <jbwinston@gmail.com>
wrote:
[...]
Bush is a smug, reactionary dimwit, but he's no Nazi.
AFAIK, we don't have any mass extermination camps,
so places like ABU Prison and Gitmo are R&R centers?
Oh, come on!
Abu Ghraib & Guantanamo were (and still are, to a lesser
degree) awful, but they are not anything like the same
order of magnitude as Auschwitz & Buchenwald.
Get some perspective.
and a particular religion or race hasn't been
persecuted nearly to extinction.
Really? Bush I tried to exterminate the Davidians but he lost the
election and the hit happened under Clinton who screwed things up with
Reno. Ask the American Indians about extermination under right wing
presidents.
*furrfu!*
Koresh had his followers commit suicide by cop, and
somehow that's Shrub's fault?
I loathe His Royal Shrubness -- I believe he is the
worst POTUS we've ever had -- but you need to keep a
grip on reality.
-J Dubya
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| User: "Steve R" |
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| Title: Re: What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
22 Nov 2004 07:10:02 PM |
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You are ignoring the fact that Bush's (and the Christian Right's)
belief in Armaggedon is fundamentally anti-Semitic. Their support of
Israel is only to help ensure that Israel survives, which is a
requirement for the prophecy to be fulfilled. After that, they look
forward to the extermination of millions of Jews in the Apocalypse.
It's so much more efficient than gas chambers, isn't it? But don't
make any mistake about it. The Christian Right was, is and always
will be anti-Semitic and it did, does and always will believe in the
purity and superiority of its perverted values (or lack thereof).
J Dubya <jbwinston@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<hZmod.870$yY3.122@fe39.usenetserver.com>...
~ 1,224 US OlL NAZIS SUCKING SATAN'S ***** ~ wrote:
Were they always Nazis?
They *did* wipe out the Indians after all...
Bush is a smug, reactionary dimwit, but he's no Nazi.
AFAIK, we don't have any mass extermination camps,
and a particular religion or race hasn't been
persecuted nearly to extinction.
His admin. *has* used propaganda techniques that
the Nazis pioneered to good effect, however.
-J Dubya
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| User: "Steven Litvintchouk" |
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| Title: Re: What made Americans turn into Nazis? |
22 Nov 2004 06:12:29 PM |
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~ 1,224 US OlL NAZIS SUCKING SATAN'S ***** ~ wrote:
Were they always Nazis?
They *did* wipe out the Indians after all...
When the U.S. took the West from the Indians, Mein Kampf had not yet
been written and the Nazi Party had not yet been formed.
Hence your question is totally without meaning.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| User: "Pennsylvania Dutch" |
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| Title: HMONG KILLS SIX |
23 Nov 2004 06:58:40 AM |
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BIRCHWOOD, Wis. - Yesterday, a Hmong immigrant from the 24,000-strong
"Hmong community" of St. Paul, Minnesota crossed the border into
Wisconsin on a hunting trip.
Armed with a high-velocity semi-automatic assault-style rifle, Chai
Vang, 36, wandered onto private property, ignoring the bright orange "no
trespassing" signs and took a position in someone else's hunting platform.
Locals have complained that the Hmong, a tribe from the jungles of
Southeast Asia, have no respect for the concept of private property and
hunt wherever they see fit. Apparently this is true. When Vang was
confronted by two White people -- a man and his son -- instead of moving
on, he shot them both. Before dying, the father managed to radio for
help. Six of his hunting companions converged at the scene on two ATV's
and were immediately fired upon. Those who were not hit fled into the
woods but were chased down and shot.
Unfortunately, the eight Whites had only one gun between them. It is not
known if they fired even one shot in return.
After killing the five Whites and wounding three, the Hmong immigrant
reversed his orange vest to the camouflage side to avoid capture, and
attempted to flee the area. However, lost in the woods, he required the
assistance of two more Whites to find his way out. Luckily for the two
Whites, Vang was out of ammunition. For a complete report see the AP
link below.
In February of 2003, the FBI released a law enforcement bulletin warning
that throughout the United States, the level of Hmong criminal activity
was increasing in severity. Extracts from the FBI bulletin:
The Hmong have become involved in a wide range of crimes, such as
homicides, gang rapes, prostitution, home invasions, burglaries, auto
thefts, and, most recently, the sale and distribution of illicit drugs.
In the St. Paul/Minneapolis area during the summer of 1999. Within about
a 6-week period, at least 22 shootings were reported.
Hmong gangs have considerable mobility. It is not uncommon for gang
members to drive from California to North Carolina, stopping en route to
visit fellow gang members in other states, such as Minnesota or
Wisconsin. Many times, these gangs transport guns to another state and
commit crimes in transit. Because of this mobility, law enforcement
agencies investigating these gangs must maintain a high level of
communication to effectively track gang activity.
Hmong gangs also present a violent threat to people who are not members
of gangs. The most frequent and violent crimes against nongang members
are rape and prostitution.
In Warren, Michigan, several members of a Hmong gang were arrested for
repeatedly raping teenage girls who they had held prisoner for nearly 3
weeks. The victims came from Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
The lead investigator stated that the case was so large that officials
had to pursue it in three phases. In the first phase, the grand jury
handed down 350 indictments on 14 suspects. Eleven of the suspects pled
guilty and received sentences ranging from 17 to 31 years in prison. Two
other gang members got 280 years and 4 months and 94 years and 4 months,
respectively, in prison. The second phase consisted of the grand jury
handing down a 323-count indictment and several of the suspects pleading
guilty. The third phase included 9 victims and 20 suspects, in which the
grand jury handed down an 826-count indictment. Several suspects pled
guilty and others were found guilty.
Associated Press Report
15,000 Hmong Head for Minnesota
Wisconsin: New Flood of Hmong Refugees Will Strain Already Tight Budgets
Which Way, Milwaukee?
FBI Bulletin
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| User: "Johnny Asia pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com " |
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23 Nov 2004 11:00:15 AM |
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Locals have complained that the Hmong, a tribe from the jungles of
Southeast Asia, have no respect for the concept of private property and
hunt wherever they see fit. >>
The CIA armed and recruited them as "anti-communist"
fighters, yet they don't believe in the concept of private property?
"..in 1960 by the CIA to provide armed resistance against Vietnamese
communists. From 1961 to 1973, Pao and his forces - about 30,000
soldiers, according to the Lao Family Community of Minnesota, also in
St. Paul - fought in Laos with U.S. support.
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/wdhlocal/280231586053892.shtml
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"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
Want to know what's really going on in Iraq?
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
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| User: "Pennsylvania Dutch" |
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23 Nov 2004 01:05:41 PM |
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Johnny Asia wrote:
The CIA armed and recruited them as "anti-communist"
fighters, yet they don't believe in the concept of private property?
Yep.
BIRCHWOOD, Wis. - Yesterday, a Hmong immigrant from the 24,000-strong
"Hmong community" of St. Paul, Minnesota crossed the border into
Wisconsin on a hunting trip.
Armed with a high-velocity semi-automatic assault-style rifle, Chai
Vang, 36, wandered onto private property, ignoring the bright orange "no
trespassing" signs and took a position in someone else's hunting platform.
Locals have complained that the Hmong, a tribe from the jungles of
Southeast Asia, have no respect for the concept of private property and
hunt wherever they see fit. Apparently this is true. When Vang was
confronted by two White people -- a man and his son -- instead of moving
on, he shot them both. Before dying, the father managed to radio for
help. Six of his hunting companions converged at the scene on two ATV's
and were immediately fired upon. Those who were not hit fled into the
woods but were chased down and shot.
Unfortunately, the eight Whites had only one gun between them. It is not
known if they fired even one shot in return.
After killing the five Whites and wounding three, the Hmong immigrant
reversed his orange vest to the camouflage side to avoid capture, and
attempted to flee the area. However, lost in the woods, he required the
assistance of two more Whites to find his way out. Luckily for the two
Whites, Vang was out of ammunition. For a complete report see the AP
link below.
In February of 2003, the FBI released a law enforcement bulletin warning
that throughout the United States, the level of Hmong criminal activity
was increasing in severity. Extracts from the FBI bulletin:
The Hmong have become involved in a wide range of crimes, such as
homicides, gang rapes, prostitution, home invasions, burglaries, auto
thefts, and, most recently, the sale and distribution of illicit drugs.
In the St. Paul/Minneapolis area during the summer of 1999. Within about
a 6-week period, at least 22 shootings were reported.
Hmong gangs have considerable mobility. It is not uncommon for gang
members to drive from California to North Carolina, stopping en route to
visit fellow gang members in other states, such as Minnesota or
Wisconsin. Many times, these gangs transport guns to another state and
commit crimes in transit. Because of this mobility, law enforcement
agencies investigating these gangs must maintain a high level of
communication to effectively track gang activity.
Hmong gangs also present a violent threat to people who are not members
of gangs. The most frequent and violent crimes against nongang members
are rape and prostitution.
In Warren, Michigan, several members of a Hmong gang were arrested for
repeatedly raping teenage girls who they had held prisoner for nearly 3
weeks. The victims came from Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
The lead investigator stated that the case was so large that officials
had to pursue it in three phases. In the first phase, the grand jury
handed down 350 indictments on 14 suspects. Eleven of the suspects pled
guilty and received sentences ranging from 17 to 31 years in prison. Two
other gang members got 280 years and 4 months and 94 years and 4 months,
respectively, in prison. The second phase consisted of the grand jury
handing down a 323-count indictment and several of the suspects pleading
guilty. The third phase included 9 victims and 20 suspects, in which the
grand jury handed down an 826-count indictment. Several suspects pled
guilty and others were found guilty.
Associated Press Report
15,000 Hmong Head for Minnesota
Wisconsin: New Flood of Hmong Refugees Will Strain Already Tight Budgets
Which Way, Milwaukee?
FBI Bulletin
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| User: "Johnny Asia pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com " |
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23 Nov 2004 08:09:07 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:58:40 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
<PennsylvaniaDutch@mail2usa.com> wrote:
Associated Press Report
15,000 Hmong Head for Minnesota
Yet another CIA operation creates "blowback"
"..in 1960 by the CIA to provide armed resistance against Vietnamese
communists. From 1961 to 1973, Pao and his forces - about 30,000
soldiers, according to the Lao Family Community of Minnesota, also in
St. Paul - fought in Laos with U.S. support.
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/wdhlocal/280231586053892.shtml
+
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
Want to know what's really going on in Iraq?
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
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| User: "Pennsylvania Dutch" |
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23 Nov 2004 08:24:55 AM |
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Johnny Asia wrote:
Associated Press Report
15,000 Hmong Head for Minnesota
Yep.
BIRCHWOOD, Wis. - Yesterday, a Hmong immigrant from the 24,000-strong
"Hmong community" of St. Paul, Minnesota crossed the border into
Wisconsin on a hunting trip.
Armed with a high-velocity semi-automatic assault-style rifle, Chai
Vang, 36, wandered onto private property, ignoring the bright orange "no
trespassing" signs and took a position in someone else's hunting platform.
Locals have complained that the Hmong, a tribe from the jungles of
Southeast Asia, have no respect for the concept of private property and
hunt wherever they see fit. Apparently this is true. When Vang was
confronted by two White people -- a man and his son -- instead of moving
on, he shot them both. Before dying, the father managed to radio for
help. Six of his hunting companions converged at the scene on two ATV's
and were immediately fired upon. Those who were not hit fled into the
woods but were chased down and shot.
Unfortunately, the eight Whites had only one gun between them. It is not
known if they fired even one shot in return.
After killing the five Whites and wounding three, the Hmong immigrant
reversed his orange vest to the camouflage side to avoid capture, and
attempted to flee the area. However, lost in the woods, he required the
assistance of two more Whites to find his way out. Luckily for the two
Whites, Vang was out of ammunition. For a complete report see the AP
link below.
In February of 2003, the FBI released a law enforcement bulletin warning
that throughout the United States, the level of Hmong criminal activity
was increasing in severity. Extracts from the FBI bulletin:
The Hmong have become involved in a wide range of crimes, such as
homicides, gang rapes, prostitution, home invasions, burglaries, auto
thefts, and, most recently, the sale and distribution of illicit drugs.
In the St. Paul/Minneapolis area during the summer of 1999. Within about
a 6-week period, at least 22 shootings were reported.
Hmong gangs have considerable mobility. It is not uncommon for gang
members to drive from California to North Carolina, stopping en route to
visit fellow gang members in other states, such as Minnesota or
Wisconsin. Many times, these gangs transport guns to another state and
commit crimes in transit. Because of this mobility, law enforcement
agencies investigating these gangs must maintain a high level of
communication to effectively track gang activity.
Hmong gangs also present a violent threat to people who are not members
of gangs. The most frequent and violent crimes against nongang members
are rape and prostitution.
In Warren, Michigan, several members of a Hmong gang were arrested for
repeatedly raping teenage girls who they had held prisoner for nearly 3
weeks. The victims came from Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
The lead investigator stated that the case was so large that officials
had to pursue it in three phases. In the first phase, the grand jury
handed down 350 indictments on 14 suspects. Eleven of the suspects pled
guilty and received sentences ranging from 17 to 31 years in prison. Two
other gang members got 280 years and 4 months and 94 years and 4 months,
respectively, in prison. The second phase consisted of the grand jury
handing down a 323-count indictment and several of the suspects pleading
guilty. The third phase included 9 victims and 20 suspects, in which the
grand jury handed down an 826-count indictment. Several suspects pled
guilty and others were found guilty.
Associated Press Report
15,000 Hmong Head for Minnesota
Wisconsin: New Flood of Hmong Refugees Will Strain Already Tight Budgets
Which Way, Milwaukee?
FBI Bulletin
Yet another CIA operation creates "blowback"
"..in 1960 by the CIA to provide armed resistance against Vietnamese
communists. From 1961 to 1973, Pao and his forces - about 30,000
soldiers, according to the Lao Family Community of Minnesota, also in
St. Paul - fought in Laos with U.S. support.
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/wdhlocal/280231586053892.shtml
+
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
Want to know what's really going on in Iraq?
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
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