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"Ubiquitous" |
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02 May 2007 08:02:41 AM |
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What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda Which Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
The United States ambassador to Iraq and the U.S.
military said they could not confirm Abu Ayyub al-Masri
had been killed.
Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani said "primary information"
showed Masri was dead, telling a news conference that
details would soon be released to the media.
"Some good news was received about the killing of Abu
Ayyub al-Masri. . . . The reliability of this information
is high," Bolani said alongside Defense Minister General
Abdel Qader Jassim, who also said Masri was believed killed.
Does this mean Iraq does have something to do with the war against terrorists?
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| User: "hopeful" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
02 May 2007 08:26:37 AM |
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"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...
Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda Which
Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Does this mean Iraq does have something to do with the war against
terrorists?
Wow you have forgetten the time line. All the claims about Al Qeade in
question were the false ones used by President leading up to his invasion of
Iraq. Who told America that Atta met with Iraqi security in Prague? Nope
now the Bushites are trying to lie their way out of another mess.
Once the President ordered the invasion the situation changed and it
changed for the worse.
President Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to remove a threat against
Israel. Now America is fighting in the Jews' dirty little war for land.
Their forces are the second front, surrounding Syria and Jordan and
separating Iran from the fight. Yep the President is loyal but
unfortunately not to America but to Israel.
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| User: "DEE" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
02 May 2007 08:44:02 AM |
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On May 2, 6:26 am, "hopeful" <hopetruthpe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...> Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda Which
Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Does this mean Iraq does have something to do with the war against
terrorists?
Wow you have forgetten the time line. All the claims about Al Qeade in
question were the false ones used by President leading up to his invasion of
Iraq. Who told America that Atta met with Iraqi security in Prague? Nope
now the Bushites are trying to lie their way out of another mess.
Once the President ordered the invasion the situation changed and it
changed for the worse.
President Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to remove a threat against
Israel. Now America is fighting in the Jews' dirty little war for land.
Their forces are the second front, surrounding Syria and Jordan and
separating Iran from the fight. Yep the President is loyal but
unfortunately not to America but to Israel.
Is he under the delusion American bombs only thing protect Israel?
LOL!
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| User: "hopeful" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
02 May 2007 09:38:56 AM |
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"DEE" <sheppjon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178113442.897326.18940@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On May 2, 6:26 am, "hopeful" <hopetruthpe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
President Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to remove a threat
against
Israel. Now America is fighting in the Jews' dirty little war for land.
Their forces are the second front, surrounding Syria and Jordan and
separating Iran from the fight. Yep the President is loyal but
unfortunately not to America but to Israel.
Is he under the delusion American bombs only thing protect Israel?
LOL!
Actually it is the entire American military and all the intelligence
agencies that are at the beck and call of the Jews living on land they call
israel. The President has opened a second front in the dirty little war for
land which has surrounded Syria and Jordan and separated Iran. Couple that
with the twisted theology of the likes of Hagee and Parsley, " "stand for
israel" encourages Christian churches, leadership and
individuals to support Israel and the Jewish people through prayer and
advocacy." from ifcj.org about helping Jews remove Arabs in Palestine.
" ... Ever since Benjamin Netanyahu -- Israel's prime minister from 1996 to
1999 -- cultivated ties with U.S. Evangelicals and other Christians during
his tenure, Israeli governments have sought to strengthen relations with the
sector of the Christian world which, for religious reasons, tends to take a
pro-Israeli view of the Arab-Jewish conflict. On Mr. Robertson's website, he
says that God gave this land "to the descendants of Israel," not to
"so-called Palestinians." Older churches, such as Orthodox and Catholic
denominations, have more local Palestinian followers and tend to support
that side of the conflict. ...". A Theme Park for Holyland? Ilene R.
Prusher, csmonitor.com
" ... True, Judaism does not assign the same status to the unborn child as
to life after birth. Thus abortion is always permissible, indeed mandatory,
when the mother's life is threatened. ..." National Review, 7/8/1991. Don
Feder. Also see J J Goldberg's "Jewish Power", pp. 41-42.
Nope it is a lot more than just bombs.
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| User: "z" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
02 May 2007 09:40:57 AM |
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On May 2, 9:26 am, "hopeful" <hopetruthpe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...> Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda Which
Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Does this mean Iraq does have something to do with the war against
terrorists?
Wow you have forgetten the time line. All the claims about Al Qeade in
question were the false ones used by President leading up to his invasion of
Iraq. Who told America that Atta met with Iraqi security in Prague? Nope
now the Bushites are trying to lie their way out of another mess.
Once the President ordered the invasion the situation changed and it
changed for the worse.
President Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to remove a threat against
Israel. Now America is fighting in the Jews' dirty little war for land.
Their forces are the second front, surrounding Syria and Jordan and
separating Iran from the fight. Yep the President is loyal but
unfortunately not to America but to Israel.
I really doubt the Jews want Iraq's land. And I'm not sure why Iran
should be "in the fight" with Israel, except for a general wish to
kill Jews. But, if you have any evidence that Israel wanted the US to
attack Iraq, it would sure be interesting.
If the US had attacked Syria, your case would be much better. But it
didn't.
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| User: "Christopher Helms" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
06 May 2007 03:58:00 AM |
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z wrote:
On May 2, 9:26 am, "hopeful" <hopetruthpe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...> Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda Which
Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Does this mean Iraq does have something to do with the war against
terrorists?
Wow you have forgetten the time line. All the claims about Al Qeade in
question were the false ones used by President leading up to his invasion of
Iraq. Who told America that Atta met with Iraqi security in Prague? Nope
now the Bushites are trying to lie their way out of another mess.
Once the President ordered the invasion the situation changed and it
changed for the worse.
President Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to remove a threat against
Israel. Now America is fighting in the Jews' dirty little war for land.
Their forces are the second front, surrounding Syria and Jordan and
separating Iran from the fight. Yep the President is loyal but
unfortunately not to America but to Israel.
I really doubt the Jews want Iraq's land.
If the Jews wanted more land and they were running America to the
extent that they could essentially command the US military in order to
get it for them, they would have had us invading Florida. The climates
(political and physical) are both much nicer. Plus there's already a
huge, built in reserve of dirt cheap Mexican labor there. And enough
Jews already living down there to constitute an Israeli "fifth column"
in the Miami/Dade County area.
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| User: "z" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
07 May 2007 10:21:30 AM |
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On May 6, 4:58 am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
z wrote:
On May 2, 9:26 am, "hopeful" <hopetruthpe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...> Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda Which
Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Does this mean Iraq does have something to do with the war against
terrorists?
Wow you have forgetten the time line. All the claims about Al Qeade in
question were the false ones used by President leading up to his invasion of
Iraq. Who told America that Atta met with Iraqi security in Prague? Nope
now the Bushites are trying to lie their way out of another mess.
Once the President ordered the invasion the situation changed and it
changed for the worse.
President Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to remove a threat against
Israel. Now America is fighting in the Jews' dirty little war for land.
Their forces are the second front, surrounding Syria and Jordan and
separating Iran from the fight. Yep the President is loyal but
unfortunately not to America but to Israel.
I really doubt the Jews want Iraq's land.
If the Jews wanted more land and they were running America to the
extent that they could essentially command the US military in order to
get it for them, they would have had us invading Florida. The climates
(political and physical) are both much nicer. Plus there's already a
huge, built in reserve of dirt cheap Mexican labor there. And enough
Jews already living down there to constitute an Israeli "fifth column"
in the Miami/Dade County area.- Hide quoted text -
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Yeah, really. The secret jewish cabal which controls the world, and
its plan to snag a little chunk of wasteland like 20 miles wide at its
widest point, situated in the middle of a hundred million implacable
enemies. A plan so brilliant only a few can understand its importance
to world domination and alert the rest of us.
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| User: "Governor Swill" |
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07 May 2007 10:03:49 PM |
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On 7 May 2007 08:21:30 -0700, z <gzuckier@snail-mail.net> wrote:
Yeah, really. The secret jewish cabal which controls the world, and
its plan to snag a little chunk of wasteland like 20 miles wide at its
widest point, situated in the middle of a hundred million implacable
enemies. A plan so brilliant only a few can understand its importance
to world domination and alert the rest of us.
ROTFLMAO!
Swill
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| User: "Bill Rood" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
06 May 2007 01:59:03 AM |
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...
Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda Which
Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Why do you feel you have to lie about this?
As you must be aware Al Qaeda was not in Iraq at the time of the US attack.
Actually, Zarqawi did have a training camp in Iraq prior to the
invasion. It was in -- drum roll -- Kurdistan. Nevertheless, Powell
mentioned it in his speech. It was one of the more obvious pieces of
propaganda.
Al Qaeda is NOW very likely to be involved in Iraq because Bush and his
cronies has provided them with a perfect training ground, a recruitment boom
and a row of sitting duck US troops for them to play with.
Bin Ladin will be laughing his balls off at how Bush has played right into
his hands.
But despite the civil war bombs in the markets making the headlines the huge
majority of the attacks in Iraq continue to be small scale and launched by
Iraqis against the occupying troops. As the 28,000+ dead and wounded troops
makes obvious to anyone who isn't a congenital idiot.
A W-S
The United States ambassador to Iraq and the U.S.
military said they could not confirm Abu Ayyub al-Masri
had been killed.
Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani said "primary information"
showed Masri was dead, telling a news conference that
details would soon be released to the media.
"Some good news was received about the killing of Abu
Ayyub al-Masri. . . . The reliability of this information
is high," Bolani said alongside Defense Minister General
Abdel Qader Jassim, who also said Masri was believed killed.
Does this mean Iraq does have something to do with the war against
terrorists?
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
06 May 2007 06:36:13 AM |
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"Bill Rood" <wjrood@magnaspeed.net> wrote in message
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...
Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda
Which Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Why do you feel you have to lie about this?
As you must be aware Al Qaeda was not in Iraq at the time of the US
attack.
Actually, Zarqawi did have a training camp in Iraq prior to the invasion.
It was in -- drum roll -- Kurdistan.
Zarqawi's group was called the 'Unification' group and was not connected to
Al Qeada.
The first time there was any connection was in 2004 - AFTER the US attack
which had led to an increase in recruitment which prompted Bin Laden to ask
Zarqawi to rename his group 'Al Qeada in Iraq'. That interview is on tape -
surprised yo haven't heard it. In any case you might recall that prior to
the attack the Kurdish area where the Unification group was based was in the
'no fly zone' and therefore out of bounds to Saddam.
Nice try - no cigar.
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| User: "Bill Rood" |
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06 May 2007 10:34:57 AM |
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"Bill Rood" <wjrood@magnaspeed.net> wrote in message
news:51f%h.987$ri3.189@newsfe02.lga...
Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:iMmdnaYNO85LEaXbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...
Iraqi officials say the leader of the group Democrats call "Al Qaeda
Which Has
Nothing to Do With Iraq in Iraq Which Has Nothing to Do With al Qaeda" is
believed to have been "killed in a battle between insurgents north of
Baghdad":
Why do you feel you have to lie about this?
As you must be aware Al Qaeda was not in Iraq at the time of the US
attack.
Actually, Zarqawi did have a training camp in Iraq prior to the invasion.
It was in -- drum roll -- Kurdistan.
Zarqawi's group was called the 'Unification' group and was not connected to
Al Qeada.
Did I mention al-Qaeda? I couldn't remember the name of his group, so I
simply referred to Zarqawi.
The first time there was any connection was in 2004 - AFTER the US attack
Absolutely agree.
which had led to an increase in recruitment which prompted Bin Laden to ask
Zarqawi to rename his group 'Al Qeada in Iraq'. That interview is on tape -
surprised yo haven't heard it. In any case you might recall that prior to
the attack the Kurdish area where the Unification group was based was in the
'no fly zone' and therefore out of bounds to Saddam.
Why do you think I mentioned it was in Kurdistan, and referred to
Powell's mention of it as "propaganda"? (Why did you clip that?)
Nice try - no cigar.
Why do you make controversy where there is none? I believe you and I are
essentially in agreement!
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
07 May 2007 02:18:52 AM |
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"Bill Rood" <wjrood@magnaspeed.net> wrote in message
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Zarqawi's group was called the 'Unification' group and was not connected
to Al Qeada.
Did I mention al-Qaeda? I couldn't remember the name of his group, so I
simply referred to Zarqawi.
Sorry - I took you to be implying that Zarqawi was a member of Al Qeada.
There are so many Bush apologists that believe the Bush ***** and link
Zarqawi to Al Qeada pre-invasion that's it's unusal to find someone who
knows that he wasn't.
(Why did you clip that?)
I almost always snip just to the bit I want to comment on - just force of
habit really - it wasn't meant to diminish anything you wrote.
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| User: "Bill Rood" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
07 May 2007 10:47:45 PM |
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"Bill Rood" <wjrood@magnaspeed.net> wrote in message
news:MAm%h.70$Qq6.30@newsfe12.lga...
Zarqawi's group was called the 'Unification' group and was not connected
to Al Qeada.
Did I mention al-Qaeda? I couldn't remember the name of his group, so I
simply referred to Zarqawi.
Sorry - I took you to be implying that Zarqawi was a member of Al Qeada.
There are so many Bush apologists that believe the Bush ***** and link
Zarqawi to Al Qeada pre-invasion that's it's unusal to find someone who
knows that he wasn't.
First of all, there's no such thing as a "member of al-Qaeda." Al-Qaeda
is a construct of the Empire's intelligence services and the GWOT. It
does not have cadres or membership lists. It's like the "vast right-wing
conspiracy" we've all heard tell about. Nobody has to give marching
orders, because they all have a common ideology and interests.
Beyond that, even if Zarqawi HAD been a "member" -- and as I recall
there may have been a relationship followed by a rift and reconciliation
-- it just plain doesn't matter because Zarqawi was IN FUCKING KURDISTAN
FOR CHRISSAKE!
(Why did you clip that?)
I almost always snip just to the bit I want to comment on - just force of
habit really - it wasn't meant to diminish anything you wrote.
No problem, I was just a little confused about why we were arguing.
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: What Was He Doing in Iraq? |
11 May 2007 09:41:38 AM |
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"Bill Rood" <wjrood@magnaspeed.net> wrote in message
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"Bill Rood" <wjrood@magnaspeed.net> wrote in message
news:MAm%h.70$Qq6.30@newsfe12.lga...
Zarqawi's group was called the 'Unification' group and was not connected
to Al Qeada.
Did I mention al-Qaeda? I couldn't remember the name of his group, so I
simply referred to Zarqawi.
Sorry - I took you to be implying that Zarqawi was a member of Al Qeada.
There are so many Bush apologists that believe the Bush ***** and link
Zarqawi to Al Qeada pre-invasion that's it's unusal to find someone who
knows that he wasn't.
First of all, there's no such thing as a "member of al-Qaeda." Al-Qaeda is
a construct of the Empire's intelligence services and the GWOT.
I absolutely agree - it's just that in these US groups that I occasionally
drop into (I'm a tri-national: UK/NZ/Aus) that's *such* a radical concept
that I find it best not to mention it for fear of inducing multiple
spontaneous cardiac arrests among the general citizenry.
It
does not have cadres or membership lists. It's like the "vast right-wing
conspiracy" we've all heard tell about. Nobody has to give marching
orders, because they all have a common ideology and interests.
Beyond that, even if Zarqawi HAD been a "member" -- and as I recall there
may have been a relationship followed by a rift and reconciliation -- it
just plain doesn't matter because Zarqawi was IN FUCKING KURDISTAN FOR
CHRISSAKE!
(Why did you clip that?)
I almost always snip just to the bit I want to comment on - just force
of habit really - it wasn't meant to diminish anything you wrote.
No problem, I was just a little confused about why we were arguing.
Looks like we might be an international conspiracy.
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