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"johnny8977" |
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09 Jan 2004 06:26:42 PM |
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What's your view? |
Hello all.
I know this seems perhaps quite a broad question, but I was wondering how
Americans view of Britain. I'm English and I am generally quite proud of
being English/British.
However, it is obvious that Britain isn't the power it used to be. It is
well excepted that America is the only superpower left in the world. But we
Brits still do have a bit of a superiority complex about a few things. I was
wondering if you (Americans) view us in the same way we view ourselves.
I still see Britain as having a strong reputation thoughout the world for
various things. We think we can still invent, engineer or manufacture better
than anyone. I persanoally see Britain as a bit of a mess. The law seems to
protect the criminals, motorists are monitored by cameras everyway ala 1984
and illegal immigrants seem to have more rights and claims to benefits than
people who were born here and have paid taxes all their lifes.
For example, from this year several former Soviet countries are joining the
EU (Poland etc etc). People from these countries can enter Britain freely
and immediatley claim over £100 ($180) per week benefits (Social Secruity).
They will not have to had to pay one single penny into Britains ecomony.
However, if I were suddendly unemployed having paid taxes all my life, the
most I could claim is £42. Does this seem right?
A farmer in an area of Britain called Norfolk had had his remote farmhouse
broken into several times. He repeatly called the police and nothing was
done. One night a few years ago he was burgled again. he shot one of the
robbers dead with his legally held shotgun. He was found gulty of murder and
given life imprisonment, later reduced to 5 years manslaughter. Does this
seem right?
A peodophile adbucted and murdered two 10 year old girls last year. He was
sentanced to life imprisionment. Not the dead penalty as the EU constitution
which not a single member of the British public voted for, forbades it. Does
this seem right?
I understand this seems a bit of a rant. I realise I am not a particulary
well eductaed person and I may have some facts wrong. But I see how American
culture and influence has spread thoughout the world and on the whole I
think you have things quite well sorted. But I wonder why Britain has turned
out how it has when didn't a few people setting of from Southampton start
Amrica as we know it?
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: What's your view? |
09 Jan 2004 08:24:19 PM |
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"johnny8977" <cyki@johnny8977.plus.comNOSPAM> wrote in
news:cHHLb.12668$tQ6.324018@wards.force9.net:
Hello all.
I know this seems perhaps quite a broad question, but I was wondering
how Americans view of Britain. I'm English and I am generally quite
proud of being English/British.
However, it is obvious that Britain isn't the power it used to be. It is
well excepted that America is the only superpower left in the world. But
we Brits still do have a bit of a superiority complex about a few
things. I was wondering if you (Americans) view us in the same way we
view ourselves.
I still see Britain as having a strong reputation thoughout the world
for various things. We think we can still invent, engineer or
manufacture better than anyone. I persanoally see Britain as a bit of a
mess. The law seems to protect the criminals, motorists are monitored by
cameras everyway ala 1984 and illegal immigrants seem to have more
rights and claims to benefits than people who were born here and have
paid taxes all their lifes.
Keep in mind that your students routinely
outperform Americans, your leader has to face
the grilling of the legislature every week, the
press monitors your government quite closely,
and even your television programs are better.
On the other hand, you ARE saddled with the
spoiled brats known as "the Royals" and the
French are way too close for American comfort...;)
For example, from this year several former Soviet countries are joining
the EU (Poland etc etc). People from these countries can enter Britain
freely and immediatley claim over £100 ($180) per week benefits (Social
Secruity). They will not have to had to pay one single penny into
Britains ecomony. However, if I were suddendly unemployed having paid
taxes all my life, the most I could claim is £42. Does this seem right?
Every country has abuses of welfare. In the
US the biggest scammers are corporations.
A farmer in an area of Britain called Norfolk had had his remote
farmhouse broken into several times. He repeatly called the police and
nothing was done. One night a few years ago he was burgled again. he
shot one of the robbers dead with his legally held shotgun. He was found
gulty of murder and given life imprisonment, later reduced to 5 years
manslaughter. Does this seem right?
If you mean the farmer (Tony Martin) who shot
two teenagers in the back, who never called the
police, who never even checked on their condition,
and who was caught the next evening at his local pub
only because one of them lived and crawled to a nearby
farm, yes, such callous disregard for life SHOULD merit
a prison sentence.
Of course, in the US we saw a woman admit to
dowsing her sleeping husband with gasoline, set
him on fire, and get acquitted on murder charges.
Said his abuse of her made forced her to do it.
Go figure.
A peodophile adbucted and murdered two 10 year old girls last year. He
was sentanced to life imprisionment. Not the dead penalty as the EU
constitution which not a single member of the British public voted for,
forbades it. Does this seem right?
The death penalty is as error-prone as the rest
of the "justice" system. Just not as reversible.
Guildford 4, Birmingham 6, 22 Rillington Place ring
a bell?
I understand this seems a bit of a rant. I realise I am not a
particulary well eductaed person and I may have some facts wrong. But I
see how American culture and influence has spread thoughout the world
and on the whole I think you have things quite well sorted. But I wonder
why Britain has turned out how it has when didn't a few people setting
of from Southampton start Amrica as we know it?
As a barrister friend of mine put it, the
Purtians didn't leave England in search of liberty,
they were kicked out for being such a bloody nuisance.
And we got saddled with their Puritanical ideas.
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| User: "Mens sana" |
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| Title: Re: What's your view? |
13 Jan 2004 08:47:28 PM |
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"johnny8977" <cyki@johnny8977.plus.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:cHHLb.12668$tQ6.324018@wards.force9.net...
Hello all.
I know this seems perhaps quite a broad question, but I was wondering how
Americans view of Britain. I'm English and I am generally quite proud of
being English/British.
However, it is obvious that Britain isn't the power it used to be. It is
well excepted that America is the only superpower left in the world. But
we
Brits still do have a bit of a superiority complex about a few things. I
was
wondering if you (Americans) view us in the same way we view ourselves.
I still see Britain as having a strong reputation thoughout the world for
various things. We think we can still invent, engineer or manufacture
better
than anyone.
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Mr. Johnny,
You might be deluding yourself a bit on that score. The prize for the most
inventive people would have to go to America because they appear to be at or
near the top of the pile in almost any technology or scientific area to-day.
Engineering. No way. Has to be Germany for that one. If there is an
engineering gene out there the Germans have two each.
Manufacturing is a bit more difficult to pick world beater. Given a choice
of two identical PCs; one built in GB, the other in Japan I'm changing Euro
for Yen. But my needs are for the higher end, hand crafted, product I think
I'd see at least 6 Brits in any fair top ten.
What you didn't mention but ought to have is these periodic episodes of that
uniquely British (I'd say English but some things are beyond the ability of
any Celt) genius for meeting a moment with a product that's superbly
functional and a style that others approach to pay homage.
The very obvious example is the Spitfire. Apart from being excellent at it's
tragic job; it is probably the most beautiful aeroplane ever to take flight.
And now my all time favourite British product < Horns salute over drum roll
the BMC, and its successors Minis.
I had one as a teenager and in later years comparing it to my company cars
( Primera Sri, Avensis, Peugeot 405 class) The Mini always won. When I
retired last year I bought another. A vintage 850. It's getting a complete
rebuild at the end of the month. Then I'll be the proud owner of the worlds
greatest 'drivers' car ever made.
Now leave me a moment while I meditate on my good fortune :-)
Regards,
Mens sana.
I persanoally see Britain as a bit of a mess. The law seems to
protect the criminals, motorists are monitored by cameras everyway ala
1984
and illegal immigrants seem to have more rights and claims to benefits
than
people who were born here and have paid taxes all their lifes.
For example, from this year several former Soviet countries are joining
the
EU (Poland etc etc). People from these countries can enter Britain freely
and immediatley claim over £100 ($180) per week benefits (Social
Secruity).
They will not have to had to pay one single penny into Britains ecomony.
However, if I were suddendly unemployed having paid taxes all my life, the
most I could claim is £42. Does this seem right?
A farmer in an area of Britain called Norfolk had had his remote farmhouse
broken into several times. He repeatly called the police and nothing was
done. One night a few years ago he was burgled again. he shot one of the
robbers dead with his legally held shotgun. He was found gulty of murder
and
given life imprisonment, later reduced to 5 years manslaughter. Does this
seem right?
A peodophile adbucted and murdered two 10 year old girls last year. He was
sentanced to life imprisionment. Not the dead penalty as the EU
constitution
which not a single member of the British public voted for, forbades it.
Does
this seem right?
I understand this seems a bit of a rant. I realise I am not a particulary
well eductaed person and I may have some facts wrong. But I see how
American
culture and influence has spread thoughout the world and on the whole I
think you have things quite well sorted. But I wonder why Britain has
turned
out how it has when didn't a few people setting of from Southampton start
Amrica as we know it?
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| User: "Ike Milligan" |
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| Title: Re: What's your view? |
09 Jan 2004 07:49:20 PM |
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"johnny8977" <cyki@johnny8977.plus.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:cHHLb.12668$tQ6.324018@wards.force9.net...
Hello all.
I know this seems perhaps quite a broad question, but I was wondering how
Americans view of Britain. I'm English and I am generally quite proud of
being English/British.
However, it is obvious that Britain isn't the power it used to be. It is
well excepted that America is the only superpower left in the world. But
we
Brits still do have a bit of a superiority complex about a few things. I
was
wondering if you (Americans) view us in the same way we view ourselves.
I still see Britain as having a strong reputation thoughout the world for
various things. We think we can still invent, engineer or manufacture
better
than anyone. I persanoally see Britain as a bit of a mess. The law seems
to
protect the criminals, motorists are monitored by cameras everyway ala
1984
and illegal immigrants seem to have more rights and claims to benefits
than
people who were born here and have paid taxes all their lifes.
For example, from this year several former Soviet countries are joining
the
EU (Poland etc etc). People from these countries can enter Britain freely
and immediatley claim over £100 ($180) per week benefits (Social
Secruity).
They will not have to had to pay one single penny into Britains ecomony.
However, if I were suddendly unemployed having paid taxes all my life, the
most I could claim is £42. Does this seem right?
It's only right if Americans can do the same.
--
Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "The Republikin" |
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| Title: Re: What's your view? |
10 Jan 2004 10:41:01 AM |
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I think you all need to drop that King/Queen royalty thing. It makes you all
look snobby.
It may have worked 300 years ago, but if you all still consider yourselves
to be serfs in the eyes of Royalty then so be it.
"johnny8977" <cyki@johnny8977.plus.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:cHHLb.12668$tQ6.324018@wards.force9.net...
Hello all.
I know this seems perhaps quite a broad question, but I was wondering how
Americans view of Britain. I'm English and I am generally quite proud of
being English/British.
However, it is obvious that Britain isn't the power it used to be. It is
well excepted that America is the only superpower left in the world. But
we
Brits still do have a bit of a superiority complex about a few things. I
was
wondering if you (Americans) view us in the same way we view ourselves.
I still see Britain as having a strong reputation thoughout the world for
various things. We think we can still invent, engineer or manufacture
better
than anyone. I persanoally see Britain as a bit of a mess. The law seems
to
protect the criminals, motorists are monitored by cameras everyway ala
1984
and illegal immigrants seem to have more rights and claims to benefits
than
people who were born here and have paid taxes all their lifes.
For example, from this year several former Soviet countries are joining
the
EU (Poland etc etc). People from these countries can enter Britain freely
and immediatley claim over £100 ($180) per week benefits (Social
Secruity).
They will not have to had to pay one single penny into Britains ecomony.
However, if I were suddendly unemployed having paid taxes all my life, the
most I could claim is £42. Does this seem right?
A farmer in an area of Britain called Norfolk had had his remote farmhouse
broken into several times. He repeatly called the police and nothing was
done. One night a few years ago he was burgled again. he shot one of the
robbers dead with his legally held shotgun. He was found gulty of murder
and
given life imprisonment, later reduced to 5 years manslaughter. Does this
seem right?
A peodophile adbucted and murdered two 10 year old girls last year. He was
sentanced to life imprisionment. Not the dead penalty as the EU
constitution
which not a single member of the British public voted for, forbades it.
Does
this seem right?
I understand this seems a bit of a rant. I realise I am not a particulary
well eductaed person and I may have some facts wrong. But I see how
American
culture and influence has spread thoughout the world and on the whole I
think you have things quite well sorted. But I wonder why Britain has
turned
out how it has when didn't a few people setting of from Southampton start
Amrica as we know it?
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| User: "Tom Aldrich" |
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| Title: Re: What's your view? |
09 Jan 2004 07:41:37 PM |
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johnny8977 wrote:
Hello all.
I know this seems perhaps quite a broad question, but I was wondering how
Americans view of Britain. I'm English and I am generally quite proud of
being English/British.
However, it is obvious that Britain isn't the power it used to be. It is
well excepted that America is the only superpower left in the world. But we
Brits still do have a bit of a superiority complex about a few things. I was
wondering if you (Americans) view us in the same way we view ourselves.
I still see Britain as having a strong reputation thoughout the world for
various things. We think we can still invent, engineer or manufacture better
than anyone. I persanoally see Britain as a bit of a mess. The law seems to
protect the criminals, motorists are monitored by cameras everyway ala 1984
and illegal immigrants seem to have more rights and claims to benefits than
people who were born here and have paid taxes all their lifes.
For example, from this year several former Soviet countries are joining the
EU (Poland etc etc). People from these countries can enter Britain freely
and immediatley claim over £100 ($180) per week benefits (Social Secruity).
They will not have to had to pay one single penny into Britains ecomony.
However, if I were suddendly unemployed having paid taxes all my life, the
most I could claim is £42. Does this seem right?
My understanding of this is you are getting a large influx of Islamics who do
not want to adapt to your customs and laws and your not the only European
country having this problem.
A farmer in an area of Britain called Norfolk had had his remote farmhouse
broken into several times. He repeatly called the police and nothing was
done. One night a few years ago he was burgled again. he shot one of the
robbers dead with his legally held shotgun. He was found gulty of murder and
given life imprisonment, later reduced to 5 years manslaughter. Does this
seem right?
As much as I defend the right to defending life and property, I don't advocate
that farmer to leave his home to go and put himself in a outer building to take
human life to defend material goods per-say.
A peodophile adbucted and murdered two 10 year old girls last year. He was
sentanced to life imprisionment. Not the dead penalty as the EU constitution
which not a single member of the British public voted for, forbades it. Does
this seem right?
Hell no, in these types of cases I'm in favor the defendant taken out back and
shot imediately
I understand this seems a bit of a rant. I realise I am not a particulary
well eductaed person and I may have some facts wrong. But I see how American
culture and influence has spread thoughout the world and on the whole I
think you have things quite well sorted. But I wonder why Britain has turned
out how it has when didn't a few people setting of from Southampton start
Amrica as we know it?
Brits over the centurys have in a sense have shown a more independent attitude
then the rest of Europe as a whole, and I feel you as a country are going to
lose that independence the more you become involved in the EU.
But Britain is stuck between a rock and a hard place in sense of economical
growth trying to go it alone with out being in the EU.
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