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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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07 Nov 2006 09:48:47 PM |
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When God is King, will you bow? |
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true. Well, Scripture has prophesied that the end days
will see wars, natural disasters, astrological signs, one world
currency (where's the visa taken for example...also, what's a euro),
and marks placed in the hand or head to identify someone for commerce.
Ten years ago, people would've said...
....no one would allow "big brother" monitoring.
....nature changes slowly, not drastically.
....wars are cyclical (they come and go).
....the post-cold war world still wouldn't allow universal commerce.
Now, with the Internet, computer chip identifiers, Al Queda, and such,
we are seeing them all come true.
So, when Jesus does return in Glory to rule and to fight those that
oppose His reign, where will you stand?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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10 Nov 2006 09:25:13 PM |
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162957727.222444.114370@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true. Well, Scripture has prophesied that the end days
will see wars, natural disasters, astrological signs, one world
currency (where's the visa taken for example...also, what's a euro),
and marks placed in the hand or head to identify someone for commerce.
Scripture came true, in a sense, during the years of the early Roman Empire
when John set Revelation down. I'd like to be made aware of any era in
history in which there were NOT wars or natural disasters. Augustine of
Hippo in the fourth century neatly clipped the claws of anti-Christian
Romans (who argued much the same things as Wide does). Augustine,
thankfully, was a better historian than his critics and pointed to plenty of
evidence to show that bad stuff is no stranger to human history. I have no
idea what Wide means by "astrological signs". We are nowhere near "one
world currency", although the Roman came close for the Mediterannean world,
but then again, the most widely used coin then was the Greek drachma...not
even a good, honest Roman denarius found its way everywhere.
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Cesare Borgia
"Men are so gullible and swayed by the desires of the moment that those who
will trick will always find those willing to be tricked."
Niccolo Macchiavelli
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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11 Nov 2006 08:03:38 AM |
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cesare borgia wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162957727.222444.114370@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true. Well, Scripture has prophesied that the end days
will see wars, natural disasters, astrological signs, one world
currency (where's the visa taken for example...also, what's a euro),
and marks placed in the hand or head to identify someone for commerce.
Scripture came true, in a sense, during the years of the early Roman Empire
when John set Revelation down. I'd like to be made aware of any era in
history in which there were NOT wars or natural disasters. Augustine of
Hippo in the fourth century neatly clipped the claws of anti-Christian
Romans (who argued much the same things as Wide does). Augustine,
thankfully, was a better historian than his critics and pointed to plenty of
evidence to show that bad stuff is no stranger to human history. I have no
idea what Wide means by "astrological signs". We are nowhere near "one
world currency", although the Roman came close for the Mediterannean world,
but then again, the most widely used coin then was the Greek drachma...not
even a good, honest Roman denarius found its way everywhere.
--
Cesare Borgia
"Men are so gullible and swayed by the desires of the moment that those who
will trick will always find those willing to be tricked."
Niccolo Macchiavelli
So, ALL the grass on earth burned up in the Roman Empire? What about
the waters? Did they ALL turn to blood? You guys will make anything
fit your view.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: When God is King, will you bow? |
08 Nov 2006 12:02:49 AM |
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true.
No. People who quote Scripture get on the nerves of people, because
they are obnoxious as all hell. And usually as hypocritical as former
reverend Haggart
Well, Scripture has prophesied that the end days
will see wars, natural disasters, astrological signs,
So what else is new? All of those have been seen for thousands of
years. The absence of such things might be remarkable, but the
presence is no sign of anything impending.
Ten years ago, people would've said...
...no one would allow "big brother" monitoring.
Orwell was worried about this dozens of years ago, which is why "big
brother" means what your usage implied.
...nature changes slowly, not drastically.
...wars are cyclical (they come and go).
...the post-cold war world still wouldn't allow universal commerce.
Perhaps you knew people who said such things ten years ago, but I
didn't.
Now, with the Internet, computer chip identifiers, Al Queda, and such,
we are seeing them all come true.
So, when Jesus does return in Glory to rule and to fight those that
oppose His reign, where will you stand?
Those who believe in Him will stand with Him. Those who don't, won't.
And nothing you say will change this.
lojbab
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| User: "Jd" |
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10 Nov 2006 08:07:43 PM |
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Bob LeChevalier wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true.
To which you said:
No. People who quote Scripture get on the nerves of people, because
they are obnoxious as all hell.
Jesus said:
Matthew4:4 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by
every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God'." - Jesus
Jd says:
It's obvious that Bob has made a hasty reply without thinking, since
Jesus obviously quoted scripture on many occaisions.
Now. Will Bob admit his bluderous mistake? No.
Jd
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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10 Nov 2006 11:53:45 PM |
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Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true.
To which you said:
No. People who quote Scripture get on the nerves of people, because
they are obnoxious as all hell.
Jesus said:
Matthew4:4 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by
every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God'." - Jesus
That's nice.
Those who value the words that proceedeth out of the mouth of God can
pick up a Bible any time they want. They can decide for themselves
what those words mean; they don't need your Satanically inspired
theology interpreting the words for them.
Those who do not value the words are not going to place any credence
in what Jesus said.
Jd says:
It's obvious that Bob has made a hasty reply without thinking, since
Jesus obviously quoted scripture on many occaisions.
I know Jesus Christ, and you are no Jesus Christ.
lojbab
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| User: "DeserTBoB" |
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08 Nov 2006 01:15:06 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:02:49 -0500, Bob LeChevalier
<lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true.
No. People who quote Scripture get on the nerves of people, because
they are obnoxious as all hell. And usually as hypocritical as former
reverend Haggart <snip>
It's ALL OVER for church nutters. They'll be driven back into the
woodwork and into the cesspools and trailer parks from whence they
came in the '70s.
GOOD RIDDENCE!
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou- A." |
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08 Nov 2006 11:48:57 AM |
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In article <1162957727.222444.114370@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true. Well, Scripture has prophesied that the end days
will see wars, natural disasters, astrological signs, one world
currency (where's the visa taken for example...also, what's a euro),
and marks placed in the hand or head to identify someone for commerce.
Ten years ago, people would've said...
...no one would allow "big brother" monitoring.
...nature changes slowly, not drastically.
...wars are cyclical (they come and go).
...the post-cold war world still wouldn't allow universal commerce.
Now, with the Internet, computer chip identifiers, Al Queda, and such,
we are seeing them all come true.
So, when Jesus does return in Glory to rule and to fight those that
oppose His reign, where will you stand?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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Ken, the atheists, phony Christians, the cults wil not be standing.
They will all be on their knees confessing that Jesus Christ is God.
Romans 14:11-12.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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08 Nov 2006 06:11:08 PM |
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Ken, the atheists, phony Christians, the cults wil not be standing.
They will all be on their knees confessing that Jesus Christ is God.
Romans 14:11-12.
hey, it's the IKnowHimDoYouKnowHim fucking moron.
hey, you don'tknowshit, why do you worship a MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING
COLD-HEARTED ***** sky pixie ?
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| User: "Rich Shumer" |
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07 Nov 2006 09:53:23 PM |
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On 7 Nov 2006 19:48:47 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Scripture can really get on the nerves of people, especially when they
start to come true. Well, Scripture has prophesied that the end days
will see wars, natural disasters, astrological signs, one world
currency (where's the visa taken for example...also, what's a euro),
and marks placed in the hand or head to identify someone for commerce.
Ten years ago, people would've said...
....no one would allow "big brother" monitoring.
....nature changes slowly, not drastically.
....wars are cyclical (they come and go).
....the post-cold war world still wouldn't allow universal commerce.
Now, with the Internet, computer chip identifiers, Al Queda, and such,
we are seeing them all come true.
So, when Jesus does return in Glory to rule and to fight those that
oppose His reign, where will you stand?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
Such nonsense! How you can weave all that stuff into an argument shows
imagination reserved only to a blind man. Cause and effect? No way
Buster!
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| User: "Topaz" |
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08 Nov 2006 06:56:39 PM |
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WHY JUDEO-CHRISTIANS SUPPORT WAR
C. E. Carlson
The French author, Alexis de Tocqueville, wrote "Democracy in America"
when he traveled here in the first third of the 19th Century. In
ringing tones he sang the praises of America's invulnerable strength
and spirit. He attributed its greatness to its citizens' sense of
morality... even with the abundant church attendances he observed in
America. De Tocqueville wrote in French and is credited with this
familiar quote: "AMERICA IS GREAT BECAUSE SHE IS GOOD, and if America
ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great."
De Tocqueville could see the power of America, but he could not have
known in 1830 that she was soon to be under an attack aimed at its
churches and the very sense of morality that he extolled.
First, there was a War Between the States, which scarred the powerful
young nation in its strapping youth. A worse attack on America was to
commence near the turn of the 20th century. This was the onset of an
attack on American Christianity that continues unabated against the
traditional, Christ-following church. This attack, which author
Gordon Ginn calls "The final Apostasy", began with a small very
wealthy and determined European political movement. It had a dream,
and the American churches stood in its way.
The World Zionist movement, as its Jewish founders called themselves,
had plans to acquire a homeland for all Jews worldwide, even though
most were far from homeless, and many did not want another home. Not
any land would do. World Zionists wanted a specific property that
American Christians called "the Holy Land." But if these Zionists
read "Democracy in America" or any of the journals of any of America's
churches, which no doubt they did, they could not help but know that
Jerusalem was not theirs to have. As self proclaimed Jews, they were,
according to the Christian New Testament, the persecutors of Christ
and most of his early followers, and the engineers of his crucifixion.
America's traditional churches in the 19th Century would never stand
for a Jewish occupation of Jesus' homeland.
World Zionist leaders initiated a program to change America and its
religious orientation. One of the tools used to accomplish this goal
was an obscure and malleable Civil War veteran named Cyrus I.
Schofield. A much larger tool was a venerable, world respected
European book publisher The Oxford University Press.
The scheme was to alter the Christian view of Zionism by creating and
promoting a pro-Zionist subculture within Christianity. Scofield's
role was to re-write the King James Version of the Bible by inserting
Zionist-friendly notes in the margins, between verses and chapters,
and on the bottoms of the pages. The Oxford University Press used
Scofield, a pastor by then, as the Editor, probably because it needed
such as man for a front. The revised bible was called the Scofield
Reference Bible, and with limitless advertising and promotion, it
became a best-selling "bible" in America and has remained so for 90
years.
The Scofield Reference Bible was not to be just another translation,
subverting minor passages a little at a time. No, Scofield produced a
revolutionary book that radically changed the context of the King
James Version. It was designed to create a subculture around a new
worship icon, the modern State of Israel, a state that did not yet
exist, but which was already on the drawing boards of the committed,
well-funded authors of World Zionism.
Scofield's support came from a movement that took root around the turn
of the century, supposedly motivated by disillusionment over what it
considered the stagnation of the mainline American churches. Some of
these "reformers" were later to serve on Scofield's Editorial
Committee.
Scofield imitated a chain of past heretics and rapturists, most of
whose credibility fizzled over their faulty end times prophesies. His
mentor was one John Nelson Darby from Scotland, who was associated
with the Plymouth Brethren and who made no less than six evangelical
trips to the US selling what is today called "Darbyism". It is from
Darby that Scofield is thought to have learned his Christian Zionist
theology, which he later planted in the footnotes of the Scofield
Reference Bible. It is possible that Scofield's interest in Darbyism
was shared by Oxford University Press, for Darby was known to Oxford
University.
The Oxford University Press owned "The Scofield Reference Bible" from
the beginning, as indicated by its copyright, and Scofield stated he
received handsome royalties from Oxford. Oxford's advertisers and
promoters succeeded in making Scofield's bible, with its Christian
Zionist footnotes, a standard for interpreting scripture in
Judeo-Christian churches, seminaries, and Bible study groups. It has
been published in at least four editions since its introduction in
1908 and remains one of the largest selling Bibles ever.
The Scofield Reference Bible and its several clones is all but
worshiped in the ranks of celebrity Christians, beginning with the
first media icon, evangelist Billy Graham. Of particular importance
to the Zionist penetration of American Christian churches has been the
fast growth of national bible study organizations, such as Bible Study
Fellowship and Precept Ministries. These draw millions of students
from not only evangelical fundamentalist churches, but also from
Catholic and mainline Protestant churches and non-church contacts.
These invariably teach forms of "dispensationalism," which draw their
theory, to various degrees, from the notes in the Oxford Bible.
Among more traditional churches that encourage, and in some cases
recommend, the use of the Scofield Reference Bible is the huge
Southern Baptist Convention of America, whose capture is World
Zionism's crowning achievement.
Scofield, whose work is largely believed to be the product of Darby
and others, wisely chose not to change the text of the King James
Edition. Instead, he added hundreds of easy to read footnotes at the
bottom of about half of the pages, and as the Old English grammar of
the KJE becomes increasingly difficult for progressive generations of
readers, students become increasingly dependent on the modern language
footnotes...
Scofield's borrowed ideas were later popularized under
the labels and definitions that have evolved into common usage
today pre-millennialism," "dispensationalism," "Judeo-Christianity,"
and most recently the highly political movement openly called
"Christian Zionism."
Thanks to the work of a few dedicated researchers, much of the
questionable personal history of Cyrus I. Scofield is available. It
reveals he was not a Bible scholar as one might expect, but a
political animal with the charm and talent for self promotion of a
Bill Clinton. Scofield's background reveals a criminal history, a
deserted wife, a wrecked family, and a penchant for self serving lies.
He was exactly the sort of man the World Zionists might hire to bend
Christian thought, a controllable man and one capable of carrying the
secret to his grave. (See The Incredible Scofield and His Book by
Joseph M. Canfield).
Other researchers have examined Scofield's eschatology and exposed his
original work as apostate and heretic to traditional Christian views.
Among these is a massive work by Stephen Sizer entitled Christian
Zionism, Its History, Theology and Politics.
(http://virginiawater.org.uk/christchurch)
We Hold These Truths is grateful to these dedicated researchers. Our
own examination of the Oxford Bible has gone in another direction,
focusing not on what Scofield wrote, but on some of the many additions
and deletions The Oxford University Press has continued to make to
Scofield Reference Bible since his death in 1921. These alterations
have further radicalized the Scofield Bible into a manual for the
Christian worship of the State of Israel beyond what Schofield would
have dreamed of. This un-Christian anti-Arab theology has permitted
the theft of Palestine and 54 years of death and destruction against
the Palestinians, with hardly a complaint from the Judeo-Christian
mass media evangelists or most other American church leaders. We
thank God for the exceptions.
It is no exaggeration to say that the 1967 Oxford 4th Edition
deifies--makes a God of--the State of Israel, a state that did not
even exist when Scofield wrote the original footnotes in 1908. This
writer believes that, had it not been for misguided anti-Arab race
hatred promoted by Christian Zionist leaders in America, neither the
Gulf War nor the Israeli war against the Palestinians would have
occurred, and a million or more people who have perished would be
alive today.
What proof does WHTT have to incriminate World Zionism in a scheme to
control Christianity? For proof we offer the words themselves that
were planted in the 1967 Edition, 20 years after the State of Israel
was created in 1947, and 46 years after Scofield's death. The words
tell us that those who control the Oxford Press recreated a bible to
misguide Christians and sell flaming Zionism in the churches of
America.
There is little reason to believe that Scofield knew or cared much
about the Zionist movement, but at some point, he became involved in a
close and secret relationship with Samuel Untermeyer, a New York
lawyer whose firm still exists today and one of the wealthiest and
most powerful World Zionists in America. Untermeyer controlled the
unbreakable thread that connected him with Scofield. They shared a
password and a common watering hole, and it appears that Untermeyer
may have been the one who provided the money that Scofield himself
lacked. Scofield's success as an international bible editor without
portfolio and his lavish living in Europe could only have been
accomplished with financial aid and international influence.
This connection might have remained hidden, were it not for the work
of Joseph M. Canfield, the author and researcher who discovered clues
to the thread in Scofield family papers. But even had the threads
connecting Scofield to Untermeyer and Zionism never been exposed, it
would still be obvious that that connection was there. It is
significant that Oxford, not Scofield, owned the book, and that after
Scofield's death, Oxford accelerated changes to it. Since the death
of its original author and namesake, The Scofield Reference Bible has
gone through several editions. Massive pro-Zionist notes were added
to the 1967 edition, and some of Scofield's most significant notes
from the original editions were removed where they apparently failed
to further Zionist aims fast enough. Yet this edition retains the
title, "The New Scofield Reference Bible, Holy Bible, Editor C.I.
Scofield." It's anti-Arab, Christian subculture theology has made an
enormous contribution to war, turning Christians into participants in
genocide against Arabs in the latter half of the 20th century.
The most convincing evidence of the unseen Zionist hand that wrote the
Scofield notes to the venerable King James Bible is the content of the
notes themselves, for only Zionists could have written them. These
notes are the subject of this paper.
Oxford edited the former 1945 Edition of SRB in 1967, at the time of
the Six Day War when Israel occupied Palestine. The new footnotes to
the King James Bible presumptuously granted the rights to the
Palestinians' land to the State of Israel and specifically denied the
Arab Palestinians any such rights at all. One of the most brazen and
outrageous of these NEWLY INSERTED footnotes states:
"FOR A NATION TO COMMIT THE SIN OF ANTI-SEMITISM BRINGS INEVITABLE
JUDGMENT." (page 1920, footnote (3) to Genesis 12:3.) (our
emphasis
added)
This statement sounds like something from Ariel Sharon, or the Chief
Rabbi in Tel Aviv, or Theodore Herzl, the founder of Modern Zionism.
But these exact words are found between the covers of the 1967 Edition
of the Oxford Bible that is followed by millions of American
churchgoers and students and is used by their leaders as a source for
their preaching and teaching...
All of this language, including the prophecy about the future being
really bad for those who "persecute the Jews," reflects and furthers
the goals of the Anti-Defamation League, which has a stated goal of
creating an environment where opposing the State of Israel is
considered "anti-Semitism," and "anti-Semitism" is a "hate crime"
punishable by law. This dream has become a reality in the Christian
Zionist churches of America. Only someone with these goals could have
written this footnote...
It is tempting to engage in academic arguments to show readers the
lack of logic in Scofield's theology, which has led followers of
Christ so far astray. It seems all too easy to refute the various
Bible references given in support of Scofield's strange writings. But
we will resist the temptation to do this, because others have already
done it quite well, and more importantly because it leads us off our
course.
It is also inviting to dig into Scofield's sordid past as Canfield has
done, revealing him to be a convicted felon and probable pathological
liar, but we leave that to others, because our interest is not in
Scofield's life, but in saving the lives of millions of innocent
people who are threatened by the continuing Zionist push for perpetual
war.
Instead, we will examine the words on their face. The words in these
1967 footnotes are Zionist propaganda that has been tacked onto the
text of a Christian Bible. Most of them make no sense, except to
support the Zionist State of Israel in its war against the
Palestinians and any other wars it may enter into. In this purpose,
Zionism has completely succeeded. American Judeo-Christians, more
recently labeled "Christian Zionists," have remained mute during wars
upon Israel's enemies in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia and
elsewhere. It is past time to stop the spilling of more blood, some
of it Christian blood...
And what is it that Scofield said that did not satisfy the Zionists
who rewrote the Oxford 1967 Edition?
The answer is an easy one. Most Arab and Islamic scholars consider
Arabs in general and the Prophet Mohamed in particular to be direct
descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's first son and older half-brother of
Isaac, whose son Jacob was later to become known as "Israel." Many
Arabs believe that through Ishmael they are co-heirs of to Abraham's
promise, and they correctly believe that present day Israelis have no
Biblical right to steal their land. Jewish Talmudic folklore also
speaks of Ishmael, so the Zionists apparently felt they had to alter
how Christians viewed the two half brothers in order to prevent
Christians from siding with the Arabs over the land theft.
The Zionists solved this dilemma by inserting a senseless footnote in
the 1967 (Oxford) Scofield Reference Bible which, in effect,
substitutes the word "Jews" for the words "The Israelitish people and
Ishmaelitish people," as Scofield originally wrote it. The
Israelitish and Ishmaelitish people lived 3000 years ago, but the
Zionists want to claim the Arabs' part of the presumed birthright
right now! Read it again; "all Jews are natural descendants of
Abraham, but are not necessarily his spiritual posterity."
And there is more of such boondogglery in the Oxford bible. On the
same page 1137 we find yet another brand new Zionist-friendly note
referring to the New Testament book of John 8:37.
"(2) 8:44 THAT THIS SATANIC FATHERHOOD CANNOT BE LIMITED TO THE
PHARISEES IS MADE CLEAR IN 1Jn3:8" (note SRB 1967 Edition, P1137 to
John 8:44)
Let us look at the verse Oxford is trying to soften, wherein Jesus is
speaking directly to the Pharisees, who were the Jewish leaders of his
day, and to no one else:
"YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUST OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL
DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH,
BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKEST A LIE, HE SPEAKEST
OF HIS OWN; FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT." John 8:44 King
James Ed.)
Those are plain words. No wonder the Zionists wanted to dilute what
Jesus said. Not only did Oxford add a new footnote in 1967, but they
inserted no less than four reference cues into the King James sacred
text, directing readers to their specious, apostate footnotes. It
seems the Zionists cannot deny what Jesus said about Pharisees, but
they do not want to bear the burden of being "sons of Satan" all by
themselves. Now here's the text of the verse to which Oxford refers
in order to try to solve this problem:
"HE THAT COMMITETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; FOR THE DEVIL SINNETH FROM THE
BEGINNING. FOR THIS PURPOSE THE SON OF GOD WAS MANIFESTED, THAT HE
MIGHT DESTROY THE WORK OF THE DEVIL." (1Jn3:8.King James Edition)
Fine, but this verse, spoken by Jesus to His followers in a speech
about avoiding sin, in no way supports Oxford's argument that Jesus
was not talking directly to and about the Pharisee leaders when he
called them "Sons of Satan" in John 8:44. It is a different book
written at a different time to a different audience. This is typical
Christian Zionist diversion.
To find out to whom Jesus is speaking you must read the rest of John
8, not something from another book. Furthermore, John 8:44 is only
one of some 77 verses where Jesus confronted the Pharisees by name and
in many cases addressed them as "satanic" and as "vipers." Oxford
simply ignores most of these denunciations by Jesus, adding no notes
at all, and the Christian Zionists go along without question.
(The New Jewish Encyclopedia, edited by David Bridger, PH.D in
association with Samual Wolk, Rabbi, J.S.D, copyright 1962, Published
by Behrman House, inc.,1261 Broadway, New York 1, N.Y., Library of
Congress Catalog Card Number: 62-17079, says on page 376:
"The Pharisees are therefore regarded as those authorities who helped
develop and preserve traditional Judaism as it is known today.")
These are a few examples of Zionist perversions of scripture that have
shaped the doctrine of America's most politically powerful religious
subculture, the "Christian Zionists" as Ariel Sharon calls them, or
the dispensationalists, as intellectual followers call themselves, or
the Judeo-Christians as our politically-correct politicians describe
themselves. Today's Mid-East wars are not caused by the
predisposition of the peoples, who are no more warlike than any human
tribes. Without the pandering to Jewish and Zionist interests that is
carried out by this subculture--the most vocal being the celebrity
Christian evangelists--there would be no such wars, for there is not
enough support for war outside of organized Zionist Christianity.
Reverend Stephen Sizer of Christ Church, England
is perhaps the most dedicated new
scholar writing about the Scofield Bible craze, popularly known as
Christian Zionism. He has quipped, "Judging Christianity by looking
at the American Evangelists is kind of like judging the British by
watching Benny Hill."
Reverend Sizer's remark brings to mind another Benny; his name is
Benny Hinn, not a British comic, but an American evangelist spouting
inflammatory hate-filled words aimed at Muslims everywhere. Hinn was
speaking to the applause of an aroused crowd of thousands in the
American Airline Center in Dallas when he shocked two Ft. Worth Star
Telegram religious reporters covering the July 3d event by announcing,
"We are on God's side," speaking of Palestine. He shouted, "This is
not a war between Jews and Arabs. It is a war between God and the
Devil." Lest there be any doubt about it, Hinn was talking about a
blood war in which the Israelis are "God" and the Palestinians are
"the Devil."
Benny Hinn is one of hundreds of acknowledged Christian Zionists who
have no problem spouting outright race hatred and who join in
unconditional support for Israel without regard for which or how many
of Israel's enemies are killed or crippled. His boldness stems from
his knowledge that the vast majority of professing Christians from
whom he seeks his lavish support-the Judeo-Christians, or Christian
Zionists--do not shrink at his words, because they have been
conditioned to accept them, just as Roman citizens learned to accept
Christian persecution, even burning alive, under Nero. Several
evangelists in attendance affirmed their agreement with Hinn "the
line between Christians and Muslims is the difference between good and
evil."
An amazing number of professing Christians are in agreement with the
fanatical likes of Hinn, including Gary Bauer, Ralph Reed, James
Dobson and hundreds more. Yet Hinn's profit-seeking fanaticism is not
as shocking as that of men like Richard Land of the Southern Baptist
Convention who occupy the highest positions in the area of
conservative religious thought. Land may have stopped short of
branding all Muslims as devils, but he attacked their leader and
Prophet and stated that, according to Baptist Bible interpretation,
the Palestinian people have no legal rights to property in Palestine.
(see note)...
Christian Zionism may be the most bloodthirsty apostasy in the entire
history of Christianity or any other religion. Shame on its leaders:
they have already brought the blood of untold numbers innocent people
down upon the spires and prayer benches of America's churches.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.ihr.org/
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| Title: Re: When God is King, will you bow? |
08 Nov 2006 05:35:29 AM |
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why would you bow to a being that MURDERED 200,000 people with a tsunami?
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