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"Joe Blowtowski" |
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22 Aug 2004 02:01:42 AM |
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when John McCain was captured |
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
This was not an isolated incidence. Kerry's activities were used as
Propaganda by the NVA to RE-BUILD their support and rev up their
Troops. Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
before this is all over
McCain will be forced to re-live that period of his life..
back when he disliked what Kerry had done..
back when he still felt the Betrayal, the Back Stabbing Pain,
and he had to look across the Senate Floor at the self admitted
War Criminal, who spit on his friends that died, and then stabbed
him in the back like a RAT
John McCain has done is own Anti-Kerry Interviews in the past
and I think that we are about to hear them again... and again...
and again... and again...
Sooner or later McCain is gonna have to answer those old Questions
"Mr. McCain, this is what you said on this *date* in
*Still-a-Secret* Magazine about what Lt. John Kerry had done.. "
"Mr. McCain, how did it make you feel when Lt. John Kerry
stabbed you in the Back?
"Mr. McCain, Did you hated him?
"Mr. McCain, Did he give the Enemy aid and comfort?
"Mr. McCain, Did you think that he committed Treason back then?
"Mr. McCain, this is what you said on this *date* in
*Still-a-Secret* Magazine about what Lt. John Kerry had done.. "
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22 Aug 2004 11:57:23 AM |
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"Republican televangelist Pat Robertson recorded a telephone message to
thousands accusing McCain of being allied with "vicious" anti-Christian
bigots; a Republican professor at Bob Jones University sent out e-mails
with an unsubstantiated rumor about McCain's personal life; and other e-
mails criticized McCain for adopting a Bangladeshi
daughter.
The Bush campaign at first denied any connection with the smear effort.
But Sunday, Bush adviser Karl Rove acknowledged that the governor's
campaign had paid for some of Robertson's telephone calls,
which are also being used now in Virginia..."
Houston Chronicle 2/29/2000 Page 5A
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: when John McCain was captured |
22 Aug 2004 06:31:44 AM |
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Subject: when John McCain was captured
From: Joe Blowtowski
Date: 8/22/2004 3:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <ddggi09080j4p1fsvc5ukc6e7bobrd5qt5@4ax.com>
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
Idiot. YOu need to take a couple paxils. McCain was in Hanoi Hilton which did
not carry the cable station covering the congressional heardings. Joe, you
piked the correct sn of blow.
Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
Liar!
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass" |
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| Title: Re: when John McCain was captured |
22 Aug 2004 06:50:36 AM |
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"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
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Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
Liar!
Nope, he's telling the truth, and once again it is YOU - a Kerry supporter -
who is the liar.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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22 Aug 2004 03:20:25 PM |
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Subject: Re: when John McCain was captured
From: "John Kerry, Horse's *****"
Date: 8/22/2004 7:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <gM%Vc.9558$3O3.9051@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
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Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
Liar!
Nope, he's telling the truth, and once again it is YOU - a Kerry supporter -
who is the liar.
Well just how did they listen to Kerry and Fonda? They clearly were not
provided with congress tv station. BTW I have read the reports of the capture
of the USS Pueblo and I have read reports on the Vietnam POW. The Vietnam POW
were 99.9 percent pilots and they were kept for only the news value of showing
them. It would appear that you have very little understand of vietnam.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Calife" |
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22 Aug 2004 07:17:22 AM |
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Joe Blowtowski wrote:
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
It is true that as a pilot courageously hitting targets from miles away,
John McCain truly lived up to the tradition of war crimes in the US
military. The difference with Kerry was that he didn't get his hands
directly bloody, and was sheltered from having to watch people die
because of his actions!
Just for fun, Joe, do you know who made McCain famous all these years ago?
The journalist giving him a cigarette as he lies injured in obvious pain
and anguish on some bunk, in some very grainy b/w footage from 1967.
Remember that one?
The journalist was French and his name was Francois Chalais!!
French, Joe, French......!!!!!!
Egad!!!
;-)
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| User: "DDB" |
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22 Aug 2004 07:56:06 PM |
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"Calife" <iznogood1@Iraqmail.com> wrote in message
news:41288e77$0$4986$afc38c87@news.easynet.fr...
Joe Blowtowski wrote:
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
It is true that as a pilot courageously hitting targets from miles away,
John McCain truly lived up to the tradition of war crimes in the US
military. The difference with Kerry was that he didn't get his hands
directly bloody, and was sheltered from having to watch people die
because of his actions!
Just for fun, Joe, do you know who made McCain famous all these years ago?
The journalist giving him a cigarette as he lies injured in obvious pain
and anguish on some bunk, in some very grainy b/w footage from 1967.
Remember that one?
The journalist was French and his name was Francois Chalais!!
French, Joe, French......!!!!!!
Wh ywould that be a supprise the French seem to be able to move freely
amongst our enemies!
Egad!!!
;-)
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| User: "Joe Blowtowski" |
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22 Aug 2004 04:08:43 PM |
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There was a time when John McCain was still very upset with
Lt. Kerry, because McCain was forced to listen to John Forbes
Kerry's phony attrocity claims while he was a Prisioner
they [the NVA] made McCain admit he was a War Criminal...
they [the NVA] made McCain listen to Kerry and Fonda Lie
It has been discussed many times in the Past..
deep down inside I think McCain still hates Kerry just as much
as the rest of us do..
Lt. Kerry has never paid for his crimes
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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22 Aug 2004 07:17:14 PM |
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Subject: Re: when John McCain was captured
From: Joe Blowtowski
Date: 8/22/2004 5:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <jl2ii05bniobn3n2hs7cobh4e45jvmcas6@4ax.com>
There was a time when John McCain was still very upset with
Lt. Kerry, because McCain was forced to listen to John Forbes
Kerry's phony attrocity claims while he was a Prisioner
*****. Joe, take your medicine and now.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Joe S." |
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22 Aug 2004 07:52:53 AM |
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http://www.miafacts.org/mccain.htm
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Joe S.
"Calife" <iznogood1@Iraqmail.com> wrote in message
news:41288e77$0$4986$afc38c87@news.easynet.fr...
Joe Blowtowski wrote:
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
It is true that as a pilot courageously hitting targets from miles away,
John McCain truly lived up to the tradition of war crimes in the US
military. The difference with Kerry was that he didn't get his hands
directly bloody, and was sheltered from having to watch people die
because of his actions!
Just for fun, Joe, do you know who made McCain famous all these years ago?
The journalist giving him a cigarette as he lies injured in obvious pain
and anguish on some bunk, in some very grainy b/w footage from 1967.
Remember that one?
The journalist was French and his name was Francois Chalais!!
French, Joe, French......!!!!!!
Egad!!!
;-)
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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22 Aug 2004 01:37:58 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:01:42 -0700, Joe Blowtowski
<Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
This was not an isolated incidence. Kerry's activities were used as
Propaganda by the NVA to RE-BUILD their support and rev up their
Troops. Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
So they should have lied and said all was well in Viet Nam?
I don't thisk it's better to lie.
Kerry and Fonda said we couldn't win the war.
Colonel Hackworth came out after years of combat in Viet Nam and said
"It's a bad war. We can't win."
I supported the war at first, and came to understand that we could not
win it, and then wanted it over.
I am sorry that this sad truth was used to torment those in captivity,
but the answer was not to lie about it, put little happy face stickers
on the reports of those dead and wounded, and just keep on getting
slaughtered.
The answer was to face the truth and give up.
We could not win.
It's always a mistake to throw good money after bad.
Kerry and Fonda and Hackworth and even Secretary of Defense McNamara
after a while and others who told the truth were trying to help us,
not hurt us.
Crusty Southern Senator and military expert Richard Russel was
captured on phone calls giving LBJ advice. LBJ really had faith in old
Russell. Russell, in private, said early on - It's the biggest god
damned mess I've ever seen and I don't see how we can win.
Why in God's name didn't LBJ listen?
WHy in God's name didn't the others listen to Russel, McNamara, Fonda,
Kerry and others and just admit it - we could not win.
We could have saved 30,000 needles US deaths if we had had the GUTS to
admit Kerry was right.
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But we were too COWARDLY to admit we could lose a war, so we just kept
going in deeper, and deeper, and deeper.
It was cowardice.
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before this is all over
McCain will be forced to re-live that period of his life..
back when he disliked what Kerry had done..
back when he still felt the Betrayal, the Back Stabbing Pain,
and he had to look across the Senate Floor at the self admitted
War Criminal, who spit on his friends that died, and then stabbed
him in the back like a RAT
John McCain has done is own Anti-Kerry Interviews in the past
and I think that we are about to hear them again... and again...
and again... and again...
Sooner or later McCain is gonna have to answer those old Questions
"Mr. McCain, this is what you said on this *date* in
*Still-a-Secret* Magazine about what Lt. John Kerry had done.. "
"Mr. McCain, how did it make you feel when Lt. John Kerry
stabbed you in the Back?
"Mr. McCain, Did you hated him?
"Mr. McCain, Did he give the Enemy aid and comfort?
"Mr. McCain, Did you think that he committed Treason back then?
"Mr. McCain, this is what you said on this *date* in
*Still-a-Secret* Magazine about what Lt. John Kerry had done.. "
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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22 Aug 2004 02:38:46 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:01:42 -0700, Joe Blowtowski
<Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
This was not an isolated incidence. Kerry's activities were used as
Propaganda by the NVA to RE-BUILD their support and rev up their
Troops. Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
So they should have lied and said all was well in Viet Nam?
Real Americans would have kept their mouths shut! Less American soldiers
would have died!
I don't thisk it's better to lie.
Kerry and Fonda said we couldn't win the war.
Actually, they helped make sure!
Colonel Hackworth came out after years of combat in Viet Nam and said
"It's a bad war. We can't win."
I supported the war at first, and came to understand that we could not
win it, and then wanted it over.
With so many commies like Fonda and Kerry working against us, the Col. was
right!
jt
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22 Aug 2004 03:24:36 PM |
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Subject: Re: when John McCain was captured
From: "John Tibbs"
Date: 8/22/2004 3:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <aD6Wc.646$Y%3.414@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Kerry and Fonda said we couldn't win the war.
Actually, they helped make sure!
Even Nixon knew the war was lost. His tapes show that he thought about a
sudden withdraw for the 1972 election. So why did he keep the war going till
Ford stopped it in 1975? Care to tell the familes of the people killed in the
last three years about it?>> I supported the war at first, and came to
understand that we could not
win it, and then wanted it over.
With so many commies like Fonda and Kerry working against us, the Col. was
right!
jt
Well remember it was lead by a republican president.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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22 Aug 2004 08:14:21 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:38:46 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:3iphi05mpn6mr3gr46506d2v98rnu5mdd8@4ax.com...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:01:42 -0700, Joe Blowtowski
<Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
This was not an isolated incidence. Kerry's activities were used as
Propaganda by the NVA to RE-BUILD their support and rev up their
Troops. Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
So they should have lied and said all was well in Viet Nam?
Real Americans would have kept their mouths shut! Less American soldiers
would have died!
The nation took your advice. AS a result thirty thousand more
Americans were killed for nothing.
It took guts for Kerry to tell the truth, and face the wrath of people
like you.
It's the coward who wouldn't admit we had lost the war.
I don't thisk it's better to lie.
Kerry and Fonda said we couldn't win the war.
Actually, they helped make sure!
Colonel Hackworth came out after years of combat in Viet Nam and said
"It's a bad war. We can't win."
I supported the war at first, and came to understand that we could not
win it, and then wanted it over.
With so many commies like Fonda and Kerry working against us, the Col. was
right!
jt
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| User: "Joe Blowtowski" |
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22 Aug 2004 10:49:51 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:14:21 -0700, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
It took guts for Kerry to tell the truth, and face the wrath of people
like you.
well that is the problem..
Lt. John Kerry did not tell the Truth.
see ya in Court
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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23 Aug 2004 02:54:19 AM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:49:51 -0700, Joe Blowtowski
<Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:14:21 -0700, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote:
It took guts for Kerry to tell the truth, and face the wrath of people
like you.
well that is the problem..
Lt. John Kerry did not tell the Truth.
I read what he said. I think it was the truth.
You claim he lied. So prove that.
But the big story Kerry told was this
It was a civil war, really. Our view of it as a conflict against
expanding communism didn't really fit what was going on.
So we could not win
Kerry was right
And if we had followed his advice there would be 30,000 fewer names on
that wall of dead Viet Nam veterans
Kerry tried to save them.
But people like you Joe doomed them to death
and saying that probably makes you mad
But should I lie to you?
see ya in Court
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| User: "Calife" |
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22 Aug 2004 03:14:27 PM |
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George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
...........
Kerry and Fonda and Hackworth and even Secretary of Defense McNamara
after a while and others who told the truth were trying to help us,
not hurt us.
Crusty Southern Senator and military expert Richard Russel was
captured on phone calls giving LBJ advice. LBJ really had faith in old
Russell. Russell, in private, said early on - It's the biggest god
damned mess I've ever seen and I don't see how we can win.
Why in God's name didn't LBJ listen?
WHy in God's name didn't the others listen to Russel, McNamara, Fonda,
Kerry and others and just admit it - we could not win.
We could have saved 30,000 needles US deaths if we had had the GUTS to
admit Kerry was right.
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But we were too COWARDLY to admit we could lose a war, so we just kept
going in deeper, and deeper, and deeper.
It was cowardice.
Nicely and eloquently put, George!
But don't get caught up in the "cowardice" bit.
The elites then could NOT conceive of withdrawing in front of a bunch of
"slopes" and giving them a free rein on how to lead their life in their
own country. The example to others was just not acceptable. One had to
submit to the will of the US Empire, or suffer the consequences.
Same thing happening in Iraq today.
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| User: "Joe Blowtowski" |
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23 Aug 2004 05:00:49 AM |
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There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
This was not an isolated incidence. Kerry's activities were used as
Propaganda by the NVA to RE-BUILD their support and rev up their
Troops. Men were Tortured to the Sounds of Kerry and Jane Fonda's
Voices
before this is all over
McCain will be forced to re-live that period of his life..
back when he disliked what Kerry had done..
back when he still felt the Betrayal, the Back Stabbing Pain,
and he had to look across the Senate Floor at the self admitted
War Criminal, who spit on his friends that died, and then stabbed
him in the back like a RAT
John McCain has done is own Anti-Kerry Interviews in the past
and I think that we are about to hear them again... and again...
and again... and again...
Sooner or later McCain is gonna have to answer those old Questions
"Mr. McCain, this is what you said on this *date* in
*Still-a-Secret* Magazine about what Lt. John Kerry had done.. "
"Mr. McCain, how did it make you feel when Lt. John Kerry
stabbed you in the Back?
"Mr. McCain, Did you hated him?
"Mr. McCain, Did he give the Enemy aid and comfort?
"Mr. McCain, Did you think that he committed Treason back then?
"Mr. McCain, this is what you said on this *date* in
*Still-a-Secret* Magazine about what Lt. John Kerry had done.. "
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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23 Aug 2004 06:53:03 AM |
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Subject: Re: when John McCain was captured
From: Joe Blowtowski
Date: 8/23/2004 6:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <22gji0h1a90en9h5tch4nh1ri51hr29itf@4ax.com>
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
You are an idiot and no if you say the same wrong think a hundred times it does
not become true.
Mc Cain never heard of kerry when McCain was in the military.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass" |
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23 Aug 2004 07:01:15 AM |
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"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: when John McCain was captured
From: Joe Blowtowski
Date: 8/23/2004 6:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <22gji0h1a90en9h5tch4nh1ri51hr29itf@4ax.com>
There was a time when John McCain was still upset with Lt. Kerry,
because he [McCain] was forced to listen to John Forbes Kerry's
attrocity claims, while they [NVA] made him [McCain] admit he
was a War Criminal...
You are an idiot
And you are a Democrat *****.
And you're a Kerry Lover.
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