"JimPgh" <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:27:43 -0400, "TopCat" <TC28262@Hotmail.com>
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"TopCat" <TC28262@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Sure we have to buy gas, but Exxon/Mobil is actually flaunting there
billion dollar profits. They lied in front of congress with the rest of
them. Then levelled off prices until things quited down now they are
leading the way in raising prices again with threats of $4 per gallon
gas. I havnt perchased from Exxon in over a year. If nobody else did it
would lowere there profits and prices. If Exxon lowered prices below
Shell's prices then we would have a lowest price war if people
continued
to boycott Exxon even after lowering prices. To bad Americans have just
lost common sense and can't figure out that the best way to start
fighting back is to Boycott Exxon/Mobile the biggest oily profit maker
out there.

Two things:

- They're not flaunting their profits. They are required to report them
to
their shareholders.

- If you would learn to write, you might be taken seriously.

Oh I can actually write very well

Apparently not.

, but when people like you respond with
nothing much to say but to critique someones spelling what is the point.

See, I told ya..."someones" is missing the possessive, plus it
would have been nice to have a comma after the word "spelling" and you
should use a question mark at the end of that sentence.

You
sound like a pompous ***** hole, I bet you work for an oil company.

Sorry, but I must also point out that "*****" is one word.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=*****

Sorry again, but it would seem by your posts that you CANNOT
write very well.

What an *****, since when did "ya" become a word? And you want to grade
someone on the English language?

"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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If you believe in the free enterprise system, there is no such thing as
price gouging. Besides, if one company is trying to make a bigger profit,
they can do that by raising prices. But when they do that, there will be
other companies, who will most likely sell their products at a lower

price.

And only a nut would pay more for gasoline when they do not have to. And
since in just about any town, there is always some competition, Exxon or

any

other company, would soon find they are selling a whole lot less of the
stuff.

I dont believe in the practical monopoly system, nor privateering. You are
very
naive to think that the major refiners, which are oil companies, do not
conspire.

And, yes, there IS price gouging. It has happened during hurricanes and
other
natural disasters. There are laws against price fixing, and price fixing is
exactly
what I think is in the works now. On multiple levels.

There are laws against price fixing,

the
barriers to entry (another ECONOMIC term) are so high for the
industry.

On Jun 1, 10:31=C2=A0am, Grendel <wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Jun 1, 12:01=C2=A0pm, neoconis_ignoramus <bellamac...@verizon.net>
wrote:

On Jun 1, 8:52 am, Grendel <wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Jun 1, 10:24 am, "TopCat" <TC28...@Hotmail.com> wrote:

Sure we have to buy gas, but Exxon/Mobil is actually flaunting th=

dollar profits. They lied in front of congress with the rest of t=

levelled off prices until things quited down now they are leading=

raising prices again with threats of $4 per gallon gas. I havnt p=

from Exxon in over a year. If nobody else did it would lowere the=

and prices. If Exxon lowered prices below Shell's prices then we =

a lowest price war if people continued to boycott Exxon even afte=

prices. To bad Americans have just lost common sense and can't fi=

that the best way to start fighting back is to Boycott Exxon/Mobi=

biggest oily profit maker out there.

Obviously you no nothing of the Gas Market. =C2=A0Feel free to not =

from Exxon...if EVERYBODY decided not to buy from Exxon, then that
would mean exactly.....*****.

Say everyone decides to no longer buy from Exxon, but instead buys
from Joe Schmoe's Gas, Guns and All night Bait Shop. =C2=A0All of a=

Joe Schmoe's gas supplier can not handle the demand...so, where do
they get the gas? =C2=A0They get it from someone who has it. =C2=A0=

it? =C2=A0EXXON!!! (that does not take into account that most of Joe
Schmoe's stations ALREADY buy from Exxon.)

So, Exxon still sells the gas.

So, the only people you have hurt is the is the private owners of t=

Exxon stations..who have absolutely nothing to do with the price of
gas, and many of whom actually buy their gas from the Shell refinery
anyway, as it is geographically closer and more economical.

All you've done is put some private citizens out of business and in=

way effected either the price of gas or the profits of Exxon.

Why is this? =C2=A0Because Gas is a commodity, it WILL be sold.

Now, if you really want to effect gas prices, quit using it at all =

convince all your friends to quit, too. =C2=A0That will help me out
greatly.

BTW...the Exxon is not screwing you, it's called Supply & Demand.
They are not making any more money per gallon than they have in the
last 30 years...they are making a shitload of money for the simple
reason they are selling a shitload of gas..after all, it's very
popular.

Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"When you get to the edges of knowledge, be careful shere you
step...that's where the ***** is the deepest."-Solomon Short.

Gas is a commodity? =C2=A0Better look up the economic definition of a
commodity again, dumbfuck.

Okay:

commodity [k=C9=99-mod=C9=99ti] noun-"an article which is bought or sol=

Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary (Beta Version) - Cite This
Source

com=C2=B7mod=C2=B7i=C2=B7ty (k=C9=99-m=C5=8Fd'=C4=AD-t=C4=93)n.-1) Some=

commercial or other advantage: 2)An article of trade or commerce, -
American Heritage Dictionary

com=C2=B7mod=C2=B7i=C2=B7ty [kuh-mod-i-tee]-noun, 1. an article of trad=

2. something of use, advantage, or value. -Dictionary.com Unabridged
(v 1.1)

Are you saying that Gas can not be bought or sold, that it's not
useful and cannot be turned into commercial advantage?

Do you deny that Exxon is capable of selling its gas to other
stations? (in fact, they do). =C2=A0There is only so much gas available,
and a heavy demand. =C2=A0If you don't buy gas from Exxon, they will st=

be able to sell it to other Petroleum Companies because THE DEMAND IS
STILL THERE!!! =C2=A0(simple enough for you, dipshit?)

=C2=A0Last I looked a commodity can be easily
substituted for. =C2=A0

Then last you looked, you looked wrong.

And last I looked, it aint like I can throw gutter
water in my car to make it run.

And last you looked, you looked like a dumbass.

LOL, commodity. =C2=A0Actually gas is controlled by an OLIGOPOLY, whi=

sure after you're done looking up and reading about it and figuring
out exactly what the word means, you'll come up with some moron excuse
to the contrary.

Well, as a Oligopoly means controlled, and affected by, a few (one
step up from a Monopoly), it depends on what you consider a 'few'.
There are well over 100 Petroleum companies in the world..of which the
following 22 are United States Owned (and remember, there are many
that sell in the US that are owned outside of the US).

1. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Alon USA, United States
2. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Amerada Hess Corporation, United States
3. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Anadarko Petroleum Corporation, United States
4. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chevron Corporation, United States
5. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ConocoPhillips, United States
6. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Crown Central Petroleum, United States
7. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Devon Energy, United States
8. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ENSCO International, United States
9. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ExxonMobil, United States
10. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gulf Oil, United States
11. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hess Oil Company, USA
12. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Insight Energy Corp, United States
13. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kerr-McGee, United States
14. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Koch Industries, United States
15. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The Louisiana Land & Exploration Company, United Stat=

16. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Marathon Oil Corporation, United States
17. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Oil & Gas Petroleum Corporation, United States
18. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pogo Producing, United States
19. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Shell Oil Company, United States (subsidiary of Royal=

Shell)
20. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sunoco, United States
21. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Vaalco Energy Inc., United States
22. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Van Doren Oil, United States

But, you are just a paranoid dipshit who think the Petroleum Guys are
out to screw you. =C2=A0Why not study up on the theory of Supply and
Demand, then research what the Supply in the United States is, what
the refinery output is, and what the demand is...

If you REALLY want to bring the price of gas down..STOP BUYING
IT...it's really that simple...a so-call boycott of one company ain't
gonna do it.

Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"Yes, you have the right to be offended. =C2=A0So fucking what?"-Solomon
Short.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Can't you read? =C2=A0The ECONOMIC definition of a commodity, not the
webster definition.

=C2=A0Oh, that's right, you wouldn't know, you never
took economics....visibly shown by your simpleton "supply and demand"
rant.

Nice try, though on the "Petroleum" companies...conveniently expanding
your definition of who controls the flow of gasoline to the pump to
include companies only tangentially involved in the process. It's a
nice little trick dimwit cons try to play on the unsuspecting. =C2=A0Sorr=

doesn't play with me.

I'll take my info from a more definitive source than the bloviatings
of a typical misinformed pseudo "free marketer".

"By 2005, the largest five refinder controlled 55 percent of the
market, and the largest 10 refiners
dominate the market with over 80 percent market share."

http://jec.senate.gov/Documents/Hearings/oilhearingopeningstatementce...

Is 10 considered market competition to you? =C2=A0Not to me, when the
barriers to entry (another ECONOMIC term) are so high for the
industry. =C2=A0Of course, to your asslicking moneygrubbing *****, even if
there were only 1 supplier you'd consider it a competitive
marketplace.

Oh, by the way, before you attempt to go off on the rant that I'm just
mad because I, unlike you, haven't profitted off of this issue, let me
tell you right off that I have, and continue to do so