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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Roedy Green"
Date: 17 Feb 2004 05:02:10 PM
Object: Where Does John Kerry Stand
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues
One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.
I would assume he is pro choice.
Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?
Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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User: "Mr. N"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 09:29:55 PM
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
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One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
--
-My Real Name
.

User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 05:26:40 PM
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
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http://www.johnkerry.com/issues

One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.

I would assume he is pro choice.

Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?

Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?

Those who don't want the gov't. passing laws against abortion are against a
Big Brother Gov't. That's true limited gov't., as opposed to the neocons
who think limited gov't. is so only in respect to social programs.


--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

.
User: "Steven Litvintchouk"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 05:50:14 PM
Edw wrote:

"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:g575305behopbr21f4i2k9tm743fg50jne@4ax.com...

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues

One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.

I would assume he is pro choice.

Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?

Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?



Those who don't want the gov't. passing laws against abortion are against a
Big Brother Gov't.

That is PARTLY my view.
I'm a right-winger. You know that from my other posts.
I've always believed in limited government all my adult life.
And that's why I don't want the Federal Government either BANNING
abortion, or SUBSIDIZING abortion either.
The Government should NOT tell a woman she can't have an abortion.
But if the woman is too poor to afford the abortion she wants, that's
too damn bad. It's not the job of the Federal Government to be paying
for that practice either.
The Government shouldn't ban it, and it shouldn't do anything to support
the practice either, such as pay for it.
-- Steven L.
.
User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 06:07:49 PM
"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Edw wrote:

"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:g575305behopbr21f4i2k9tm743fg50jne@4ax.com...

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues

One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.

I would assume he is pro choice.

Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?

Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?



Those who don't want the gov't. passing laws against abortion are

against a

Big Brother Gov't.


That is PARTLY my view.
I'm a right-winger. You know that from my other posts.
I've always believed in limited government all my adult life.
And that's why I don't want the Federal Government either BANNING
abortion, or SUBSIDIZING abortion either.

The Government should NOT tell a woman she can't have an abortion.
But if the woman is too poor to afford the abortion she wants, that's
too damn bad. It's not the job of the Federal Government to be paying
for that practice either.

The Government shouldn't ban it, and it shouldn't do anything to support
the practice either, such as pay for it.

Precisely. It's in the realm of morality, which is not what gov't. does.



-- Steven L.

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User: "The -.-Frog."

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 07:32:27 PM
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:07:49 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:WMxYb.9202$W74.2343@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...



Edw wrote:

"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:g575305behopbr21f4i2k9tm743fg50jne@4ax.com...

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues

One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.

I would assume he is pro choice.

Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?

Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?



Those who don't want the gov't. passing laws against abortion are

against a

Big Brother Gov't.


That is PARTLY my view.
I'm a right-winger. You know that from my other posts.
I've always believed in limited government all my adult life.
And that's why I don't want the Federal Government either BANNING
abortion, or SUBSIDIZING abortion either.

The Government should NOT tell a woman she can't have an abortion.
But if the woman is too poor to afford the abortion she wants, that's
too damn bad. It's not the job of the Federal Government to be paying
for that practice either.

The Government shouldn't ban it, and it shouldn't do anything to support
the practice either, such as pay for it.


Precisely. It's in the realm of morality, which is not what gov't. does.

It would seem you like Lazze-Faire.
Please explain Affirmative Action to me again.............
Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke
.
User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 09:23:42 PM
"The -.-Frog." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:07:49 GMT, "Edw" <theotts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:WMxYb.9202$W74.2343@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...



Edw wrote:

"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:g575305behopbr21f4i2k9tm743fg50jne@4ax.com...

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues

One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail

where

he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was

where

he stands on abortion.

I would assume he is pro choice.

Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?

Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?



Those who don't want the gov't. passing laws against abortion are

against a

Big Brother Gov't.


That is PARTLY my view.
I'm a right-winger. You know that from my other posts.
I've always believed in limited government all my adult life.
And that's why I don't want the Federal Government either BANNING
abortion, or SUBSIDIZING abortion either.

The Government should NOT tell a woman she can't have an abortion.
But if the woman is too poor to afford the abortion she wants, that's
too damn bad. It's not the job of the Federal Government to be paying
for that practice either.

The Government shouldn't ban it, and it shouldn't do anything to

support

the practice either, such as pay for it.


Precisely. It's in the realm of morality, which is not what gov't. does.


It would seem you like Lazze-Faire.
Please explain Affirmative Action to me again.............

Affirmative action arises in the equal protection clause; the Fourteenth is
longish, and the relevant material is throughout, so I will not post it. I
realize this means you will argue from ignorance. There is an enormous body
of law that touches on the appropriate remedies for past greivances, and
where this law intersects the Fourteenth, there is the supporting argument
for AA.
And laissez-faire (correctly spelled here) is from the French, meaning "let
do." But it has been narrowly applied, to mean laissez-faire capitalism.
It is adventitious to use it as you do.
As AA is nothing to do with morality, it is hardly any violation of the
principle enunciated.



Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke

.



User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 07:19:15 PM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:50:14 GMT, Steven Litvintchouk
<sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote or quoted :

The Government should NOT tell a woman she can't have an abortion.
But if the woman is too poor to afford the abortion she wants, that's
too damn bad.

What happens in practice is the sort of illegal abortion my mother
considered, done with a coat hanger. It often results in death or
permanent damage to the mother.
I wish you to view such a procedure if you want to maintain your
callous attitude.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "Edw"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 09:28:21 PM
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:h9f5309ditcj5td67oh3p18lr2t4upmhcv@4ax.com...

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:50:14 GMT, Steven Litvintchouk
<sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote or quoted :

The Government should NOT tell a woman she can't have an abortion.
But if the woman is too poor to afford the abortion she wants, that's
too damn bad.


What happens in practice is the sort of illegal abortion my mother
considered, done with a coat hanger. It often results in death or
permanent damage to the mother.

I wish you to view such a procedure if you want to maintain your
callous attitude.

I don't see his attitude as callous. The gov't. is under no obligation to
support a decision made by an individual if even the perception exists that
the citizenry are opposed to that decision. It's a kind of taxation without
representation. Difficult it may have been, but I don't think your mother
should have sought an abortion, and I would be most uncomfortable
encouraging her in any way to seek one.


--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

.




User: "Ty Leonard"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 05:17:32 PM
On Bush's throat
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:g575305behopbr21f4i2k9tm743fg50jne@4ax.com...

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues

One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.

I would assume he is pro choice.

Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?

Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?

--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

.

User: "shephed"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 05:23:10 PM
Yeah, this one was covered on Rush Limbaugh's show today.
The whole Bush/abortion deal is being started by recording artist Moby and
is part of his plan to slam Bush on the internet and newsgroups.
Of course simple minds will follow his lead and well, like you for example
will re-post it over, and over again.
So welcome to the fold my little sheep. LOL
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:g575305behopbr21f4i2k9tm743fg50jne@4ax.com...

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues

One nice thing about Kerry is his website goes into great detail where
he stands on a wide variety of issues. The one I did not see was where
he stands on abortion.

I would assume he is pro choice.

Bush hypocrisy for having arranged an illegal abortion will anger his
pro-life supporters, but where can they go?

Which is the bigger sin: actually having an abortion or allowing
others to have them?

--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

.
User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Where Does John Kerry Stand 17 Feb 2004 07:16:09 PM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:23:10 GMT, "shephed" <smokey@twist1up.com>
wrote or quoted :

The whole Bush/abortion deal is being started by recording artist Moby and
is part of his plan to slam Bush on the internet and newsgroups.

The source I have is Larry Flynt whose book on the subject in due out
this summer. So there are apparently two sources for the story, or
Moby is quoting Flynt.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.



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