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Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone? |
Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone?
By: Steve Yuhas
Sunday marked the 3rd anniversary of the opening salvos of shock
and awe that led to the liberation of Iraq. To mark the
occasion massive protests were planned and hundreds of thousands
were expected to show their displeasure with the war.
Unfortunately for organizers of these events - they flopped and
nobody showed up: the question now becomes where did the
anti-war movement go?
Conventional thinking among those responsible for the 200 people
who gathered in Salt Lake City and the paltry 300 at Vice
President ***** Cheney's residence is that apathy has set in and
people who were vehemently opposed to the war in Iraq have lost
interest in the cause.
In New York City, where a typical bar mitzvah can provide a
turn out of 500 people – only about 1,000 attended a "rally" in
Times Square to hold up signs and listen to speakers opposed to a
war that has already been fought.
Perhaps the most interesting city to watch was San Francisco
where the average age of a protestor was that of a 1960s hippy
who was between Medicare appointments and thinking back to the
days of tie dye t-shirts and free love. One 61-year-old man
named Paul Perchonock lamented the fact that protestors were
more like retirees at a spring picnic and that young people did
not turn out for the protests, ''There are not enough young
people here," Perchonock noticed when looking at the aging
crowd.
In cities across the world the turn out was better, but still
even in hot beds of anti-war politics the protestors were silent
and what noise they made was created by elderly professional
protestors who are harkening back on the chants and tactics they
used during the 1960s. Of course, the government sponsored
protested turned out more results, but people tend to protest
more fervently when they are threatened with prison.
"No Justice, No Peace" is a favorite among protestors (what
justice they are looking for is unclear since their signs read
everything from Stop the War to advocating for abortion and gay
rights) as is the ever popular and tiring No War for Oil. Have
those of us in California missed the huge oil supply coming
freely to our ports from Iraq? The left is constantly demanding
that President Bush get more oil into the United States from the
Middle East (G-d forbid we look for it here) – so which is it:
no war for oil or the opposite?
Protestors seem confused. Lesbians for Change took up signs to
talk about abortion in San Francisco (one would think the last
people who would be concerned about abortion on demand are women
who have no chance of getting accidentally pregnant with their
sexual companion), but that was their cause for the day and the
war was just an afterthought.
As it turns out the anniversary of the war was really just a day
set aside for a few thousand people, fewer in number than an
average NCAA basketball game when combining all of the
participants from around the country, to complain – about
anything!
It seemed that everything was getting protested except the war
and outside of the far left fringe elements and their leader,
Cindy Sheehan, the fifty people who gathered to demand that
troops return home now are minimal in number and aging in years
obvious.
The left will never admit defeat, but the fact that more people
gather for birthday parties for co-workers than came together to
protest what they perceive to be an illegal and unjust war is
telling of the fragmentation of the Democratic Party and the
left. Either they have lost all hope in their position or the
old people demonstrating with the occasional student protestor
who came out to show support (or defibrillate) the elderly
represent the entirety of the collective anger toward the war.
Either way – the fact of the matter is that nobody showed up for
what should have been and what was billed to be a banner day for
protest. The weather was good and outside of some cool weather
and snow where one would expect it – it is not like people were
kept away by flood waters. The reasons for the poor turn out
depend on what side of the political spectrum you reside, but
there is no disputing the numbers: nobody came.
The war in Iraq is three years old and in that time the Iraqi
people have gone to the polls in spite of the constant threat of
terror. They brave going to the market and standing in line to
volunteer to serve their country as a police officer or military
man knowing full well that terrorists will target them.
Terrorists from outside of Iraq, and a few Saddam supporters,
are trying to foment a civil war in Iraq, but cannot even do
that right.
Protestors in America and elsewhere may just be looking at the
reality on the ground and realizing that more people will die in
America from murder this week in some of the largest (and
smallest) cities in the country than will die in Iraq at the
hands of insurgents or terrorists. In a sense the left may have
realized, Sheehan notwithstanding, that the work they've done to
paint the war as unjust and wrong may have done the opposite.
Aligning with Sheehan and her crowd is now considered an
irrational and wacky position to be in and no Democrat looking
to be re-elected will show their face with the formerly grieving
mother turned studio apartment living mental case that profits
from the death of her heroic son and then blames Bush for his
death.
People are not protesting and the gray haired protestors cannot
figure out why – the answer is staring them in the face:
Americans want the war to be a success, not a failure and to
protest it gives the enemy ammunition to use against our troops.
Most people are not ready to give in to the people who would
cut off our heads if they had the chance and the turn out proves
it.
So we return to the question: where is the anti-war movement?
The answer is simple: dead.
Steve Yuhas is a columnist and radio talk show host on KOGO AM
600 and may be reached at www.steveyuhas.com or
steve@steveyuhas.com
--
Ms. Libertarian - United States of America
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27 Apr 2006 09:25:37 AM |
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"Ms Libertarian" <Ms_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xtx> wrote in message
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Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone?
By: Steve Yuhas
k00k-a-d00dle-d000!!!!!!!!
Sunday marked the 3rd anniversary of the opening salvos of shock
and awe that led to the liberation of Iraq. To mark the
occasion massive protests were planned and hundreds of thousands
were expected to show their displeasure with the war.
Unfortunately for organizers of these events - they flopped and
nobody showed up: the question now becomes where did the
anti-war movement go?
Conventional thinking among those responsible for the 200 people
who gathered in Salt Lake City and the paltry 300 at Vice
President ***** Cheney's residence is that apathy has set in and
people who were vehemently opposed to the war in Iraq have lost
interest in the cause.
In New York City, where a typical bar mitzvah can provide a
turn out of 500 people - only about 1,000 attended a "rally" in
Times Square to hold up signs and listen to speakers opposed to a
war that has already been fought.
Perhaps the most interesting city to watch was San Francisco
where the average age of a protestor was that of a 1960s hippy
who was between Medicare appointments and thinking back to the
days of tie dye t-shirts and free love. One 61-year-old man
named Paul Perchonock lamented the fact that protestors were
more like retirees at a spring picnic and that young people did
not turn out for the protests, ''There are not enough young
people here," Perchonock noticed when looking at the aging
crowd.
In cities across the world the turn out was better, but still
even in hot beds of anti-war politics the protestors were silent
and what noise they made was created by elderly professional
protestors who are harkening back on the chants and tactics they
used during the 1960s. Of course, the government sponsored
protested turned out more results, but people tend to protest
more fervently when they are threatened with prison.
"No Justice, No Peace" is a favorite among protestors (what
justice they are looking for is unclear since their signs read
everything from Stop the War to advocating for abortion and gay
rights) as is the ever popular and tiring No War for Oil. Have
those of us in California missed the huge oil supply coming
freely to our ports from Iraq? The left is constantly demanding
that President Bush get more oil into the United States from the
Middle East (G-d forbid we look for it here) - so which is it:
no war for oil or the opposite?
Protestors seem confused. Lesbians for Change took up signs to
talk about abortion in San Francisco (one would think the last
people who would be concerned about abortion on demand are women
who have no chance of getting accidentally pregnant with their
sexual companion), but that was their cause for the day and the
war was just an afterthought.
As it turns out the anniversary of the war was really just a day
set aside for a few thousand people, fewer in number than an
average NCAA basketball game when combining all of the
participants from around the country, to complain - about
anything!
It seemed that everything was getting protested except the war
and outside of the far left fringe elements and their leader,
Cindy Sheehan, the fifty people who gathered to demand that
troops return home now are minimal in number and aging in years
obvious.
The left will never admit defeat, but the fact that more people
gather for birthday parties for co-workers than came together to
protest what they perceive to be an illegal and unjust war is
telling of the fragmentation of the Democratic Party and the
left. Either they have lost all hope in their position or the
old people demonstrating with the occasional student protestor
who came out to show support (or defibrillate) the elderly
represent the entirety of the collective anger toward the war.
Either way - the fact of the matter is that nobody showed up for
what should have been and what was billed to be a banner day for
protest. The weather was good and outside of some cool weather
and snow where one would expect it - it is not like people were
kept away by flood waters. The reasons for the poor turn out
depend on what side of the political spectrum you reside, but
there is no disputing the numbers: nobody came.
The war in Iraq is three years old and in that time the Iraqi
people have gone to the polls in spite of the constant threat of
terror. They brave going to the market and standing in line to
volunteer to serve their country as a police officer or military
man knowing full well that terrorists will target them.
Terrorists from outside of Iraq, and a few Saddam supporters,
are trying to foment a civil war in Iraq, but cannot even do
that right.
Protestors in America and elsewhere may just be looking at the
reality on the ground and realizing that more people will die in
America from murder this week in some of the largest (and
smallest) cities in the country than will die in Iraq at the
hands of insurgents or terrorists. In a sense the left may have
realized, Sheehan notwithstanding, that the work they've done to
paint the war as unjust and wrong may have done the opposite.
Aligning with Sheehan and her crowd is now considered an
irrational and wacky position to be in and no Democrat looking
to be re-elected will show their face with the formerly grieving
mother turned studio apartment living mental case that profits
from the death of her heroic son and then blames Bush for his
death.
People are not protesting and the gray haired protestors cannot
figure out why - the answer is staring them in the face:
Americans want the war to be a success, not a failure and to
protest it gives the enemy ammunition to use against our troops.
Most people are not ready to give in to the people who would
cut off our heads if they had the chance and the turn out proves
it.
So we return to the question: where is the anti-war movement?
The answer is simple: dead.
Steve Yuhas is a columnist and radio talk show host on KOGO AM
600 and may be reached at www.steveyuhas.com or
steve@steveyuhas.com
--
Ms. Libertarian - United States of America
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27 Apr 2006 07:40:51 AM |
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Ms Libertarian wrote:
Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone?
By: Steve Yuhas
Sunday marked the 3rd anniversary of the opening salvos of shock
and awe that led to the liberation of Iraq.
A tad dated don't ya think.
To mark the
occasion massive protests were planned and hundreds of thousands
were expected to show their displeasure with the war.
Unfortunately for organizers of these events - they flopped and
nobody showed up: the question now becomes where did the
anti-war movement go?
It has become blatantly clear that the current administration, and
the congress as well, is nonresponsive to the will of the people on
this issue. That tends to keep folks at home. They are beginning to
sense that their only hope is to vote Democratic this fall, even if
they only marginally favor the democrats at all. It appears the only
way for the voters to get any response from Washington on a wide
variety of issues from lobbying reform to the war as well as
immigration and port security.
[snip]
The war in Iraq is three years old and in that time the Iraqi
people have gone to the polls in spite of the constant threat of
terror. They brave going to the market and standing in line to
volunteer to serve their country as a police officer or military
man knowing full well that terrorists will target them.
Terrorists from outside of Iraq, and a few Saddam supporters,
are trying to foment a civil war in Iraq, but cannot even do
that right.
All of which ignores the sectarian violence that even our own
military says is now the major source of conflict within the
country. And those folks volunteering to "serve their country"
are actually showing up to get paid by the US to infultrate
the security forces on behalf of their various sectarian
leaders.
[snip]
Aligning with Sheehan and her crowd is now considered an
irrational and wacky position to be in and no Democrat looking
to be re-elected will show their face with the formerly grieving
mother turned studio apartment living mental case that profits
from the death of her heroic son and then blames Bush for his
death.
Republican candidates are avoiding being seen in public
with Bush. A little feature Mr. Yuhas seems to convienently
ignore.
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27 Apr 2006 09:30:50 AM |
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Ms Libertarian wrote:
An excellent post followed up to protect the archive.
Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone?
By: Steve Yuhas
Sunday marked the 3rd anniversary of the opening salvos of shock
and awe that led to the liberation of Iraq. To mark the
occasion massive protests were planned and hundreds of thousands
were expected to show their displeasure with the war.
Unfortunately for organizers of these events - they flopped and
nobody showed up: the question now becomes where did the
anti-war movement go?
Conventional thinking among those responsible for the 200 people
who gathered in Salt Lake City and the paltry 300 at Vice
President ***** Cheney's residence is that apathy has set in and
people who were vehemently opposed to the war in Iraq have lost
interest in the cause.
In New York City, where a typical bar mitzvah can provide a
turn out of 500 people - only about 1,000 attended a "rally" in
Times Square to hold up signs and listen to speakers opposed to a
war that has already been fought.
Perhaps the most interesting city to watch was San Francisco
where the average age of a protestor was that of a 1960s hippy
who was between Medicare appointments and thinking back to the
days of tie dye t-shirts and free love. One 61-year-old man
named Paul Perchonock lamented the fact that protestors were
more like retirees at a spring picnic and that young people did
not turn out for the protests, ''There are not enough young
people here," Perchonock noticed when looking at the aging
crowd.
In cities across the world the turn out was better, but still
even in hot beds of anti-war politics the protestors were silent
and what noise they made was created by elderly professional
protestors who are harkening back on the chants and tactics they
used during the 1960s. Of course, the government sponsored
protested turned out more results, but people tend to protest
more fervently when they are threatened with prison.
"No Justice, No Peace" is a favorite among protestors (what
justice they are looking for is unclear since their signs read
everything from Stop the War to advocating for abortion and gay
rights) as is the ever popular and tiring No War for Oil. Have
those of us in California missed the huge oil supply coming
freely to our ports from Iraq? The left is constantly demanding
that President Bush get more oil into the United States from the
Middle East (G-d forbid we look for it here) - so which is it:
no war for oil or the opposite?
Protestors seem confused. Lesbians for Change took up signs to
talk about abortion in San Francisco (one would think the last
people who would be concerned about abortion on demand are women
who have no chance of getting accidentally pregnant with their
sexual companion), but that was their cause for the day and the
war was just an afterthought.
As it turns out the anniversary of the war was really just a day
set aside for a few thousand people, fewer in number than an
average NCAA basketball game when combining all of the
participants from around the country, to complain - about
anything!
It seemed that everything was getting protested except the war
and outside of the far left fringe elements and their leader,
Cindy Sheehan, the fifty people who gathered to demand that
troops return home now are minimal in number and aging in years
obvious.
The left will never admit defeat, but the fact that more people
gather for birthday parties for co-workers than came together to
protest what they perceive to be an illegal and unjust war is
telling of the fragmentation of the Democratic Party and the
left. Either they have lost all hope in their position or the
old people demonstrating with the occasional student protestor
who came out to show support (or defibrillate) the elderly
represent the entirety of the collective anger toward the war.
Either way - the fact of the matter is that nobody showed up for
what should have been and what was billed to be a banner day for
protest. The weather was good and outside of some cool weather
and snow where one would expect it - it is not like people were
kept away by flood waters. The reasons for the poor turn out
depend on what side of the political spectrum you reside, but
there is no disputing the numbers: nobody came.
The war in Iraq is three years old and in that time the Iraqi
people have gone to the polls in spite of the constant threat of
terror. They brave going to the market and standing in line to
volunteer to serve their country as a police officer or military
man knowing full well that terrorists will target them.
Terrorists from outside of Iraq, and a few Saddam supporters,
are trying to foment a civil war in Iraq, but cannot even do
that right.
Protestors in America and elsewhere may just be looking at the
reality on the ground and realizing that more people will die in
America from murder this week in some of the largest (and
smallest) cities in the country than will die in Iraq at the
hands of insurgents or terrorists. In a sense the left may have
realized, Sheehan notwithstanding, that the work they've done to
paint the war as unjust and wrong may have done the opposite.
Aligning with Sheehan and her crowd is now considered an
irrational and wacky position to be in and no Democrat looking
to be re-elected will show their face with the formerly grieving
mother turned studio apartment living mental case that profits
from the death of her heroic son and then blames Bush for his
death.
People are not protesting and the gray haired protestors cannot
figure out why - the answer is staring them in the face:
Americans want the war to be a success, not a failure and to
protest it gives the enemy ammunition to use against our troops.
Most people are not ready to give in to the people who would
cut off our heads if they had the chance and the turn out proves
it.
So we return to the question: where is the anti-war movement?
The answer is simple: dead.
Steve Yuhas is a columnist and radio talk show host on KOGO AM
600 and may be reached at www.steveyuhas.com or
steve@steveyuhas.com
--
Ms. Libertarian - United States of America
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28 Apr 2006 02:20:08 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:37:33 -0500, Ms Libertarian
<Ms_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xtx> wrote:
==>Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone?
==>
==>By: Steve Yuhas
[snip]
==>So we return to the question: where is the anti-war movement?
==>The answer is simple: dead.
Americans have become pathetic sheep. Frightened like
children by tales of wolves in the wild, they trundle
willingly and gratefully to the slaughtering pen.
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| User: "Nicholas Name" |
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02 May 2006 01:15:51 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:20:08 -0400, Ivan Gowch <the_gowch@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:37:33 -0500, Ms Libertarian
<Ms_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xtx> wrote:
==>Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone?
==>
==>By: Steve Yuhas
[snip]
==>So we return to the question: where is the anti-war movement?
==>The answer is simple: dead.
I suspect reports of the death are a tad exaggerated.-
Some newsgroup afficionados sure don't seem to read much news.
More than 300,000 March in Manhattan at Anti-War Protest
http://www.periodico26.cu/english/news_world/march050106.htm
New York, May 1 (RHC)-- Several hundred thousand anti-war protesters
marched Saturday through Manhattan to demand an immediate withdrawal
of U.S. troops from Iraq. The protest took place just hours after an
American soldier died in a roadside explosion in Baghdad -- the 70th
U.S. occupation soldier killed in that country during April.
Cindy Sheehan, a strong critic of the invasion and occupation that
also took her 24-year-old soldier son, also died in Iraq, joined in
the march, as did actress Susan Sarandon and the Rev. Jesse Jackson.
One group marched under the banner "Veterans for Peace," while other
marchers came from as far off as Maryland and Vermont.
According to The New York Times, the demonstrators stretched for about
10 city blocks as they headed down Broadway. A police spokesman
declined to give an estimate of the size of the crowd, although
organizers said there were 300,000 people. The protest march was
peaceful and there were no arrests.
Along with their call for the return of U.S. occupation troops from
Iraq, organizers said, the march was meant to express opposition to
any military action against Iran. The event was organized by the group
United for Peace and Justice.
The march stepped off shortly after noon on Saturday from Union
Square, with the demonstrators heading to downtown Manhattan for a
rally at Foley Square -- located between the U.S. courthouse and a
federal office building. Associated Press reported that among the
signs carried by the marchers: "End the War: Bring the Troops Home
Now."
Americans have become pathetic sheep. Frightened like
children by tales of wolves in the wild, they trundle
willingly and gratefully to the slaughtering pen.
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27 Apr 2006 12:38:38 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:37:33 -0700, Ms Libertarian wrote
(in article <Xns97B1F0596A11ELadyLibertarianFreeW@216.196.97.142>):
Where Have All of the Anti-War Protesters Gone?
You want anti-war protesters? Bring back a military draft.
Most people aren't interested in an issue unless they perceive that the issue
effects them directly and personally.
By: Steve Yuhas
Sunday marked the 3rd anniversary of the opening salvos of shock
and awe that led to the liberation of Iraq. To mark the
occasion massive protests were planned and hundreds of thousands
were expected to show their displeasure with the war.
Unfortunately for organizers of these events - they flopped and
nobody showed up: the question now becomes where did the
anti-war movement go?
Conventional thinking among those responsible for the 200 people
who gathered in Salt Lake City and the paltry 300 at Vice
President ***** Cheney's residence is that apathy has set in and
people who were vehemently opposed to the war in Iraq have lost
interest in the cause.
In New York City, where a typical bar mitzvah can provide a
turn out of 500 people – only about 1,000 attended a "rally" in
Times Square to hold up signs and listen to speakers opposed to a
war that has already been fought.
Perhaps the most interesting city to watch was San Francisco
where the average age of a protestor was that of a 1960s hippy
who was between Medicare appointments and thinking back to the
days of tie dye t-shirts and free love. One 61-year-old man
named Paul Perchonock lamented the fact that protestors were
more like retirees at a spring picnic and that young people did
not turn out for the protests, ''There are not enough young
people here," Perchonock noticed when looking at the aging
crowd.
In cities across the world the turn out was better, but still
even in hot beds of anti-war politics the protestors were silent
and what noise they made was created by elderly professional
protestors who are harkening back on the chants and tactics they
used during the 1960s. Of course, the government sponsored
protested turned out more results, but people tend to protest
more fervently when they are threatened with prison.
"No Justice, No Peace" is a favorite among protestors (what
justice they are looking for is unclear since their signs read
everything from Stop the War to advocating for abortion and gay
rights) as is the ever popular and tiring No War for Oil. Have
those of us in California missed the huge oil supply coming
freely to our ports from Iraq? The left is constantly demanding
that President Bush get more oil into the United States from the
Middle East (G-d forbid we look for it here) – so which is it:
no war for oil or the opposite?
Protestors seem confused. Lesbians for Change took up signs to
talk about abortion in San Francisco (one would think the last
people who would be concerned about abortion on demand are women
who have no chance of getting accidentally pregnant with their
sexual companion), but that was their cause for the day and the
war was just an afterthought.
As it turns out the anniversary of the war was really just a day
set aside for a few thousand people, fewer in number than an
average NCAA basketball game when combining all of the
participants from around the country, to complain – about
anything!
It seemed that everything was getting protested except the war
and outside of the far left fringe elements and their leader,
Cindy Sheehan, the fifty people who gathered to demand that
troops return home now are minimal in number and aging in years
obvious.
The left will never admit defeat, but the fact that more people
gather for birthday parties for co-workers than came together to
protest what they perceive to be an illegal and unjust war is
telling of the fragmentation of the Democratic Party and the
left. Either they have lost all hope in their position or the
old people demonstrating with the occasional student protestor
who came out to show support (or defibrillate) the elderly
represent the entirety of the collective anger toward the war.
Either way – the fact of the matter is that nobody showed up for
what should have been and what was billed to be a banner day for
protest. The weather was good and outside of some cool weather
and snow where one would expect it – it is not like people were
kept away by flood waters. The reasons for the poor turn out
depend on what side of the political spectrum you reside, but
there is no disputing the numbers: nobody came.
The war in Iraq is three years old and in that time the Iraqi
people have gone to the polls in spite of the constant threat of
terror. They brave going to the market and standing in line to
volunteer to serve their country as a police officer or military
man knowing full well that terrorists will target them.
Terrorists from outside of Iraq, and a few Saddam supporters,
are trying to foment a civil war in Iraq, but cannot even do
that right.
Protestors in America and elsewhere may just be looking at the
reality on the ground and realizing that more people will die in
America from murder this week in some of the largest (and
smallest) cities in the country than will die in Iraq at the
hands of insurgents or terrorists. In a sense the left may have
realized, Sheehan notwithstanding, that the work they've done to
paint the war as unjust and wrong may have done the opposite.
Aligning with Sheehan and her crowd is now considered an
irrational and wacky position to be in and no Democrat looking
to be re-elected will show their face with the formerly grieving
mother turned studio apartment living mental case that profits
from the death of her heroic son and then blames Bush for his
death.
People are not protesting and the gray haired protestors cannot
figure out why – the answer is staring them in the face:
Americans want the war to be a success, not a failure and to
protest it gives the enemy ammunition to use against our troops.
Most people are not ready to give in to the people who would
cut off our heads if they had the chance and the turn out proves
it.
So we return to the question: where is the anti-war movement?
The answer is simple: dead.
Steve Yuhas is a columnist and radio talk show host on KOGO AM
600 and may be reached at www.steveyuhas.com or
steve@steveyuhas.com
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