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Date: 22 Apr 2004 02:26:26 AM
Object: Where is the Evidence?
From:
http://rense.com/general51/fatal.htm
The Fatal Flaw In
The 911 Coverup
Why can no one name the hijackers or prove they flew the planes?
By John Kaminski
skylax@comcast.net
4-17-4

Know how to tell the difference between the truth and lies of 9/11? If
they're talking about hijackers having done the dastardly deed, you
know they're part of the sinister coverup extravaganza, wittingly or
not.

In order for the people of the world to be convinced that Islamic
hijackers were responsible for terrible tragedy of 9/11, we need to
see some evidence. Not hearsay, innuendo, aspersion or promises of
evidence, but real evidence.

Otherwise, the whole subject is rightly regarded as a ruse, a setup to
conceal the identities of the real culprits, the ones who sit smugly
in front of the TV cameras and plot their cynical war on terror -
otherwise known as the war on the peoples of the world.

As President Bush continues to insist that his word be accepted as
truth on numerous questions, time after time his statements have been
revealed as blatant falsehoods. Yet he continues to repeat them, and
the whorish corporate media continues to accept them.

Why hasn't either the Bush administration or some element of law
enforcement in the United States issued a single solid piece of
evidence connecting the hijackers to the hijacked airplanes? Why don't
the alleged hijackers appear on the airport security videos? Why
aren't there credit card records of their ticket purchases?

Why did FBI director Robert Mueller say very publicly to the
Commonwealth Club of San Francisco that nothing on paper connected
Arab terrorists to 9/11? I mean, two and half years have passed. And
the feds produced 19 names within 72 hours of the disaster. Notice a
mathematical inconsistency here? All that has happened since is mere
vigilante hysteria, hypothetical scenarios trumpeted ad nauseum by
America's notoriously brainwashed Zionist press.

Seven or eight of the names on that original list have been found
living comfortably in other countries. Why hasn't the FBI made any
attempt to correct the errors made on that original list? See for
yourself. http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
and http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

And why, after much hullabaloo about Colin Powell using phony
information in his remarks to the United Nations about the reasons for
war, hasn't the U.S. government produced a single conclusive piece of
evidence to back up its claim that 9/11 was the work Osama bin Laden
and other Islamic terrorists? Not a single piece!

If you disagree, tell me what it is!

There's a simple answer to this, you know. It's because there isn't
any evidence. And why is that? Because those pseudo-Muslims revealed
to be so publicly incompetent at piloting jerkwater training planes
had absolutely zero chance of flying sophisticated jetliners into
anything narrower than the Grand Canyon, never mind executing tricky
maneuvers with extraordinarily complicated machinery.

The unknown men who played the roles of the so-called Arab terrorist
hijackers were really recruited by either American and/or Israeli
intelligence services in a scheme set up as a diversion to inflame
dumb Westerners against the Islamic world. The purpose was to divert
the world's attention from the Israeli genocide and dispossession of
the Palestinians by blaming the attacks on Muslims.

But that was only half the objective. The other half was to enable our
despicable cabal of neocon gangbangers to fleece the American public
with an endless array of no-bid contracts to enrich the conscienceless
billionaires who are really driving the war machine.

You know how the Bushista American government uses anything for PR to
supposedly authenticate its own evil agenda. If they had any concrete
evidence against the hijackers - if they even possessed all their
correct names - we would have heard about it by now. There would be an
avalanche of TV shows about them, unlike that Jewish claptrap hate
crime against Muslims that appeared on NBC the other night.

After two and half years, with the whole world knowing that eight of
the 19 names on the hijacker list are fraudulent, the FBI has made no
attempt to substitute new names. And why is that? Because the
identities of the hijackers were constructed with mostly stolen
papers, for some of the patsies designed to take the heat. In any
case, and whoever they were, there is no evidence they ever got on the
planes.

But nothing. Instead we have one minor player convicted in Germany,
then the conviction was overturned, partly because Americans refused
to help with the prosecution.

We have the so-called 20th hijacker and assorted other preposterous
character actors languishing in jails on trumped up charges. We have
security camera film at the Pentagon, which surely reveal that no
jetliner hit that building, locked away in Ashcroft's vault under the
phony aegis of national security. We have all the rubble of the World
Trade Center, which surely would have revealed the use of nuclear
explosives creating shattered beams in odd places, instantly carted
away with no forensic investigation. We have transcripts - but no
recordings - of these phony cellphone calls, some from people who may
not have even existed.

And we have the famous standdown, in which America's air defenses
suddenly evaporated - the only time in our history this has happened.

We have Marvin Bush sitting suspiciously on the board of directors of
the security company that had the contract for the Twin Towers.

We have Larry Silverstein, who conveniently leased and insured the
towers shortly before the big hits, telling officials to "pull" a
relatively intact tower, which then fell identically to the two
structures that were struck by airplanes, creating the impression that
that's the way all three came down.

We have billions of dollars of windfall profits made by savvy
investors in the days before 9/11, and an FBI investigation that
insists nothing was amiss with these spectacular deals. Of course, we
don't get the details. Only "assurances" that the trades were not
suspicious, despite patterns and results that were unprecedented in
the entire history of financial trading.

We have reports from firemen of explosions at the base of the Twin
Towers BEFORE they fell, and the seismographic evidence to back up
these assertions.

We have leader after leader saying they didn't know such a thing could
happen when the government had been studying the problem for ten
years. It had held at least two major drills simulating such a
possibility.

And we have a president sitting in a ghetto classroom in Florida, at
possibily the most pivotal moment in American history, pretending to
read a book that he was holding upside down.

Perhaps most tellingly of all, we have the tragic tale of John
O'Neill, rabidly honest FBI investigator, prevented from following his
leads about Osama bin Laden because of the danger he would have
discovered the links from Afghanistan back to CIA headquarters. Just
review the way he was prevented from conducting his probe of the Cole
bombing, and prevented by digging into other leads by the same guys -
namely insiders Louis Freeh and Thomas Picard - who prevented
significant reports from other FBI agents from seeing the light of
day.

So, how does all that make you regard the supposedly impartial
government panel investigating these matters? When they talk about
Presidential Daily Briefings months before the event, or chitchat with
presidential flunkies who leak out these pseudorevelations about this
and that tidbit of essentially trivial information. And especially
when they talk about the dastardly hijackers (without being able to
name them) as if there is no question of their guilt. Talk about your
misleading urban legends! This one is the champ.

Well, no sense feigning surprise. We knew this commission was a set-up
from the get-go. Recycled Watergate investigators, even. Part of the
same bunch that has run the country and covered up everything for the
past 30 years or more.

Surely you didn't expect a real investigation. Thomas Kean declared at
the outset of his hearings that Osama bin Laden was guilty. End of
discussion. As soon as he made that statement, there was no way the
hearings could be legitimate.

Asserting that genuine Arab hijackers did not carry out the attacks of
9/11 requires analysis of two concomitant categories: the history of
American (and Israeli) involvement (and subterfuge) with Arab
terrorists, and methods of remote control of aircraft, or other means
of piloting the aircraft.

The remote control aspect continues to be a bone of contention among
legitimate pilots, with some asserting only real pilots could have
made such extemporaneous maneuvers and others insisting only remote
control could have accomplished such a feat. An interesting new
perspective on this debate can be found here:
http://joevialls.altermedia.info/wtc/radiocontrol.html

A third natural area of study in this regard would be the intimate
histories of those whom officials claim to be the hijackers, including
putting the microscope on their behavior in the days and weeks before
the tragedy.

Many researchers claim the name al-Qaeda was made up in middle '90s by
a variety of American functionaries (one of them being none other than
Richard Clarke) as an all-purpose villain the U.S. could blame as a
convenient reason for its military adventurism. And a group of Israeli
provocateurs was recently discovered trying to create their own faux
version of al-Qaeda.

How many more hints do you need? The absence of any relevant arrests
or discovery of any clues to the hierarchy of this supposedly
worldwide terror group should tell you a lot.

Al-Qaeda doesn't exist except for when they want it to, to blame for
any sort of strategic terror they have created themselves for some
political reason, like influencing the elections in Spain. Hah, that
one really backfired.

Why haven't American intelligence operatives gone to these foreign
countries to interview these named hijackers who turned out to be
alive? Simple. Because they knew the list was fiction in the first
place, and the Arab-types who have been named as terror gurus are
mostly their own employees, or people who have been set up by them.

It is a celebrated fact that Mohammed Atta and some of his friends
were seen in nightclubs in the hours before 9/11, certainly a fact
that argues against them being able to carry out their supposed
missions because they were motivated by Islamic religious zeal. So
their appearance in strip clubs blows the whole story that they were
devout Muslims giving their lives to Allah. Devout Muslims don't
drink, never mind cavort with strippers.

If we knew who the hijackers were, we'd know their names, wouldn't we?
Or is it now worth bombing other nations and murdering thousands of
innocent people because we say we know who the hijackers were, even
though we don't know their names? It is the great shame of the
American people that they have approved of the murders of thousands of
people because of that blatant lie.

Many of the men who were fingered as 9/11 hijackers received
preferential treatment from American immigration officials when it
came to entering and leaving the U.S. on numerous occasions. Many of
these same names reportedly trained at various U.S. military
installations.

What has resulted after two and a half years of work by America's
crack intelligence agencies, besides the persecution of Muslims
throughout the world?

Well, hundreds of innocent people have been unjustly imprisoned and
tortured at Guantanamo. All of them innocent, hapless dupes rounded up
in a Rumsfeld-ordered dragnet in Pakistan after U.S. planes had
(inadvertently or otherwise) allowed the Taliban fighters to escape
with the Pakistani army from Afghanistan.

Two pathetic flunkies have been arrested and held without due process.
One of them, the notoriously pathetic shoe bomber who was obviously a
deranged personality and not a member of any terror network, was
ceremoniously sentenced to life in prison.

Other than that, no al-Qaeda kingpins have been even named, never mind
apprehended. No clue about how the 9/11 attacks were engineered has
ever emerged. This is simply not consistent with being able to name
all 19 hijackers the day after the attacks. It is a case of pretending
you have all of the information instantly, and then pretending you no
information for the next two years. What a smell!

This means two things: that the list of 19 names was a total
fabrication, and that the worldwide terror network called al-Qaeda is
also a total fabrication, the wet dream brainchild of the CIA and the
Mossad to be trotted out as an excuse for a whole string of terror
attacks - Madrid, Bali, Riyadh, Istanbul, etc. - that were really
carried out by the CIA and the Mossad themselves, cleverly involving
designated patsies to give the operations a suitably foreign flavor.

Al-Qaeda does not exist except as a bogeyman invented by Western
powers to justify their evil agenda. There were no hijackers flying
those planes on 9/11. And honest FBI agents have been prevented from
publicizing that fact.

If you disagree, prove it! The world knows you can't, though the
high-tech mass murder by the United States and Israel spreads around
the world because of this falsified version of events.

History will show - and the public will soon realize - that those who
are telling these lies not only allowed 9/11 to happen, but planned it
for their own personal advantage.

The only question that remains is will the American public awaken to
this murderous, treasonous scam before the perpetrators achieve their
objective and bury the whole planet in the flames of their insane
perfidy.

Just remember. If they're talking about the hijackers, they're part of
the coverup, whether they know it or not.

Much more productive would be analyzing the tiny hole in the Pentagon,
how the ejected material in the WTC photos prove there were
unexplained explosions, or how those emotional cellphone calls could
not possibly have been made as government flunkies have presented
them.

But you won't hear the official 9/11 commissioners talking about any
of that, because they are definitely part of the coverup. You can
obviously tell, because they keep talking about the hijackers.

* * *


Other than a general alert to citizens of the world about the basic
lies that continue to underlie all political debate in the United
States at this time, there is another, more pressing reason to discuss
and contemplate all these matters at this time.

On Tuesday, April 20, and Wednesday, April 28, the U.S. Supreme Court
will hear arguments on the power claimed by the President to designate
people as "enemy combatants" and have them incarcerated by the
military - indefinitely, without charges, and without access to the
court system--solely on his say-so.

As my friend Alvin notes, "This is a critical moment in United States
history."

"How the court rules on these cases will determine the type of country
we will be living in. We urge those of you who can to be present
outside the Supreme Court on these dates," said Alvin. For more
information please see http://www.nlg.org/eccases/

It is one thing to realize all law enforcement and defense strategies
in America in 2004 have become lies.

It is quite another to incorporate those lies into the law itself, and
that is about to happen next week.

The decision expected will make a time of darkness grow even darker,
and practically guarantee that freedom and justice for all is now an
outmoded phrase that has been conveniently discarded by the evil
robots who now control the lives of every person on earth.


John Kaminski is the author of "America's Autopsy Report," a
collection of his Internet essays seen on hundreds of websites around
the world, and also "The Day America Died: Why You Shouldn't Believe
the Official Story of What Happened on September 11, 2001," a 48-page
booklet written for those who insist on believing the government's
version of events. For more information about both, go to
http://www.johnkaminski.com/


Comment
From Leslie Bell
4-17-4
Those planes pulled "G" forces in those turns that were impossible.
The planes have built-in safeguards that make such maneuvers
impossible (for the protection of the passenger and crew), EVEN WHEN
AUTOPILOT IS DISABLED. The only way those planes could have done those
maneuvers is if their internal safety restraints were overruled from
outside remote control. This bit of information COMES FROM COMMERCIAL
AIRPLANE PILOTS, and was widely available days after 9-11 when
commercial pilots said what they saw was impossible.
.

User: "Carl Rooker"

Title: Re: Where is the Evidence? 22 Apr 2004 12:23:14 PM
You are correct on only one point.
My worst nightmare is that people like you will print such drivel.
Carl
"Your Worst Nightmare" <jschmoe12@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:b3e90a4e.0404212326.5cb6719d@posting.google.com...

From:
http://rense.com/general51/fatal.htm

The Fatal Flaw In
The 911 Coverup
Why can no one name the hijackers or prove they flew the planes?
By John Kaminski
skylax@comcast.net
4-17-4

Know how to tell the difference between the truth and lies of 9/11? If
they're talking about hijackers having done the dastardly deed, you
know they're part of the sinister coverup extravaganza, wittingly or
not.

In order for the people of the world to be convinced that Islamic
hijackers were responsible for terrible tragedy of 9/11, we need to
see some evidence. Not hearsay, innuendo, aspersion or promises of
evidence, but real evidence.

Otherwise, the whole subject is rightly regarded as a ruse, a setup to
conceal the identities of the real culprits, the ones who sit smugly
in front of the TV cameras and plot their cynical war on terror -
otherwise known as the war on the peoples of the world.

As President Bush continues to insist that his word be accepted as
truth on numerous questions, time after time his statements have been
revealed as blatant falsehoods. Yet he continues to repeat them, and
the whorish corporate media continues to accept them.

Why hasn't either the Bush administration or some element of law
enforcement in the United States issued a single solid piece of
evidence connecting the hijackers to the hijacked airplanes? Why don't
the alleged hijackers appear on the airport security videos? Why
aren't there credit card records of their ticket purchases?

Why did FBI director Robert Mueller say very publicly to the
Commonwealth Club of San Francisco that nothing on paper connected
Arab terrorists to 9/11? I mean, two and half years have passed. And
the feds produced 19 names within 72 hours of the disaster. Notice a
mathematical inconsistency here? All that has happened since is mere
vigilante hysteria, hypothetical scenarios trumpeted ad nauseum by
America's notoriously brainwashed Zionist press.

Seven or eight of the names on that original list have been found
living comfortably in other countries. Why hasn't the FBI made any
attempt to correct the errors made on that original list? See for
yourself.

http://members.fortunecity.com/911/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm

and http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

And why, after much hullabaloo about Colin Powell using phony
information in his remarks to the United Nations about the reasons for
war, hasn't the U.S. government produced a single conclusive piece of
evidence to back up its claim that 9/11 was the work Osama bin Laden
and other Islamic terrorists? Not a single piece!

If you disagree, tell me what it is!

There's a simple answer to this, you know. It's because there isn't
any evidence. And why is that? Because those pseudo-Muslims revealed
to be so publicly incompetent at piloting jerkwater training planes
had absolutely zero chance of flying sophisticated jetliners into
anything narrower than the Grand Canyon, never mind executing tricky
maneuvers with extraordinarily complicated machinery.

The unknown men who played the roles of the so-called Arab terrorist
hijackers were really recruited by either American and/or Israeli
intelligence services in a scheme set up as a diversion to inflame
dumb Westerners against the Islamic world. The purpose was to divert
the world's attention from the Israeli genocide and dispossession of
the Palestinians by blaming the attacks on Muslims.

But that was only half the objective. The other half was to enable our
despicable cabal of neocon gangbangers to fleece the American public
with an endless array of no-bid contracts to enrich the conscienceless
billionaires who are really driving the war machine.

You know how the Bushista American government uses anything for PR to
supposedly authenticate its own evil agenda. If they had any concrete
evidence against the hijackers - if they even possessed all their
correct names - we would have heard about it by now. There would be an
avalanche of TV shows about them, unlike that Jewish claptrap hate
crime against Muslims that appeared on NBC the other night.

After two and half years, with the whole world knowing that eight of
the 19 names on the hijacker list are fraudulent, the FBI has made no
attempt to substitute new names. And why is that? Because the
identities of the hijackers were constructed with mostly stolen
papers, for some of the patsies designed to take the heat. In any
case, and whoever they were, there is no evidence they ever got on the
planes.

But nothing. Instead we have one minor player convicted in Germany,
then the conviction was overturned, partly because Americans refused
to help with the prosecution.

We have the so-called 20th hijacker and assorted other preposterous
character actors languishing in jails on trumped up charges. We have
security camera film at the Pentagon, which surely reveal that no
jetliner hit that building, locked away in Ashcroft's vault under the
phony aegis of national security. We have all the rubble of the World
Trade Center, which surely would have revealed the use of nuclear
explosives creating shattered beams in odd places, instantly carted
away with no forensic investigation. We have transcripts - but no
recordings - of these phony cellphone calls, some from people who may
not have even existed.

And we have the famous standdown, in which America's air defenses
suddenly evaporated - the only time in our history this has happened.

We have Marvin Bush sitting suspiciously on the board of directors of
the security company that had the contract for the Twin Towers.

We have Larry Silverstein, who conveniently leased and insured the
towers shortly before the big hits, telling officials to "pull" a
relatively intact tower, which then fell identically to the two
structures that were struck by airplanes, creating the impression that
that's the way all three came down.

We have billions of dollars of windfall profits made by savvy
investors in the days before 9/11, and an FBI investigation that
insists nothing was amiss with these spectacular deals. Of course, we
don't get the details. Only "assurances" that the trades were not
suspicious, despite patterns and results that were unprecedented in
the entire history of financial trading.

We have reports from firemen of explosions at the base of the Twin
Towers BEFORE they fell, and the seismographic evidence to back up
these assertions.

We have leader after leader saying they didn't know such a thing could
happen when the government had been studying the problem for ten
years. It had held at least two major drills simulating such a
possibility.

And we have a president sitting in a ghetto classroom in Florida, at
possibily the most pivotal moment in American history, pretending to
read a book that he was holding upside down.

Perhaps most tellingly of all, we have the tragic tale of John
O'Neill, rabidly honest FBI investigator, prevented from following his
leads about Osama bin Laden because of the danger he would have
discovered the links from Afghanistan back to CIA headquarters. Just
review the way he was prevented from conducting his probe of the Cole
bombing, and prevented by digging into other leads by the same guys -
namely insiders Louis Freeh and Thomas Picard - who prevented
significant reports from other FBI agents from seeing the light of
day.

So, how does all that make you regard the supposedly impartial
government panel investigating these matters? When they talk about
Presidential Daily Briefings months before the event, or chitchat with
presidential flunkies who leak out these pseudorevelations about this
and that tidbit of essentially trivial information. And especially
when they talk about the dastardly hijackers (without being able to
name them) as if there is no question of their guilt. Talk about your
misleading urban legends! This one is the champ.

Well, no sense feigning surprise. We knew this commission was a set-up
from the get-go. Recycled Watergate investigators, even. Part of the
same bunch that has run the country and covered up everything for the
past 30 years or more.

Surely you didn't expect a real investigation. Thomas Kean declared at
the outset of his hearings that Osama bin Laden was guilty. End of
discussion. As soon as he made that statement, there was no way the
hearings could be legitimate.

Asserting that genuine Arab hijackers did not carry out the attacks of
9/11 requires analysis of two concomitant categories: the history of
American (and Israeli) involvement (and subterfuge) with Arab
terrorists, and methods of remote control of aircraft, or other means
of piloting the aircraft.

The remote control aspect continues to be a bone of contention among
legitimate pilots, with some asserting only real pilots could have
made such extemporaneous maneuvers and others insisting only remote
control could have accomplished such a feat. An interesting new
perspective on this debate can be found here:
http://joevialls.altermedia.info/wtc/radiocontrol.html

A third natural area of study in this regard would be the intimate
histories of those whom officials claim to be the hijackers, including
putting the microscope on their behavior in the days and weeks before
the tragedy.

Many researchers claim the name al-Qaeda was made up in middle '90s by
a variety of American functionaries (one of them being none other than
Richard Clarke) as an all-purpose villain the U.S. could blame as a
convenient reason for its military adventurism. And a group of Israeli
provocateurs was recently discovered trying to create their own faux
version of al-Qaeda.

How many more hints do you need? The absence of any relevant arrests
or discovery of any clues to the hierarchy of this supposedly
worldwide terror group should tell you a lot.

Al-Qaeda doesn't exist except for when they want it to, to blame for
any sort of strategic terror they have created themselves for some
political reason, like influencing the elections in Spain. Hah, that
one really backfired.

Why haven't American intelligence operatives gone to these foreign
countries to interview these named hijackers who turned out to be
alive? Simple. Because they knew the list was fiction in the first
place, and the Arab-types who have been named as terror gurus are
mostly their own employees, or people who have been set up by them.

It is a celebrated fact that Mohammed Atta and some of his friends
were seen in nightclubs in the hours before 9/11, certainly a fact
that argues against them being able to carry out their supposed
missions because they were motivated by Islamic religious zeal. So
their appearance in strip clubs blows the whole story that they were
devout Muslims giving their lives to Allah. Devout Muslims don't
drink, never mind cavort with strippers.

If we knew who the hijackers were, we'd know their names, wouldn't we?
Or is it now worth bombing other nations and murdering thousands of
innocent people because we say we know who the hijackers were, even
though we don't know their names? It is the great shame of the
American people that they have approved of the murders of thousands of
people because of that blatant lie.

Many of the men who were fingered as 9/11 hijackers received
preferential treatment from American immigration officials when it
came to entering and leaving the U.S. on numerous occasions. Many of
these same names reportedly trained at various U.S. military
installations.

What has resulted after two and a half years of work by America's
crack intelligence agencies, besides the persecution of Muslims
throughout the world?

Well, hundreds of innocent people have been unjustly imprisoned and
tortured at Guantanamo. All of them innocent, hapless dupes rounded up
in a Rumsfeld-ordered dragnet in Pakistan after U.S. planes had
(inadvertently or otherwise) allowed the Taliban fighters to escape
with the Pakistani army from Afghanistan.

Two pathetic flunkies have been arrested and held without due process.
One of them, the notoriously pathetic shoe bomber who was obviously a
deranged personality and not a member of any terror network, was
ceremoniously sentenced to life in prison.

Other than that, no al-Qaeda kingpins have been even named, never mind
apprehended. No clue about how the 9/11 attacks were engineered has
ever emerged. This is simply not consistent with being able to name
all 19 hijackers the day after the attacks. It is a case of pretending
you have all of the information instantly, and then pretending you no
information for the next two years. What a smell!

This means two things: that the list of 19 names was a total
fabrication, and that the worldwide terror network called al-Qaeda is
also a total fabrication, the wet dream brainchild of the CIA and the
Mossad to be trotted out as an excuse for a whole string of terror
attacks - Madrid, Bali, Riyadh, Istanbul, etc. - that were really
carried out by the CIA and the Mossad themselves, cleverly involving
designated patsies to give the operations a suitably foreign flavor.

Al-Qaeda does not exist except as a bogeyman invented by Western
powers to justify their evil agenda. There were no hijackers flying
those planes on 9/11. And honest FBI agents have been prevented from
publicizing that fact.

If you disagree, prove it! The world knows you can't, though the
high-tech mass murder by the United States and Israel spreads around
the world because of this falsified version of events.

History will show - and the public will soon realize - that those who
are telling these lies not only allowed 9/11 to happen, but planned it
for their own personal advantage.

The only question that remains is will the American public awaken to
this murderous, treasonous scam before the perpetrators achieve their
objective and bury the whole planet in the flames of their insane
perfidy.

Just remember. If they're talking about the hijackers, they're part of
the coverup, whether they know it or not.

Much more productive would be analyzing the tiny hole in the Pentagon,
how the ejected material in the WTC photos prove there were
unexplained explosions, or how those emotional cellphone calls could
not possibly have been made as government flunkies have presented
them.

But you won't hear the official 9/11 commissioners talking about any
of that, because they are definitely part of the coverup. You can
obviously tell, because they keep talking about the hijackers.

* * *


Other than a general alert to citizens of the world about the basic
lies that continue to underlie all political debate in the United
States at this time, there is another, more pressing reason to discuss
and contemplate all these matters at this time.

On Tuesday, April 20, and Wednesday, April 28, the U.S. Supreme Court
will hear arguments on the power claimed by the President to designate
people as "enemy combatants" and have them incarcerated by the
military - indefinitely, without charges, and without access to the
court system--solely on his say-so.

As my friend Alvin notes, "This is a critical moment in United States
history."

"How the court rules on these cases will determine the type of country
we will be living in. We urge those of you who can to be present
outside the Supreme Court on these dates," said Alvin. For more
information please see http://www.nlg.org/eccases/

It is one thing to realize all law enforcement and defense strategies
in America in 2004 have become lies.

It is quite another to incorporate those lies into the law itself, and
that is about to happen next week.

The decision expected will make a time of darkness grow even darker,
and practically guarantee that freedom and justice for all is now an
outmoded phrase that has been conveniently discarded by the evil
robots who now control the lives of every person on earth.


John Kaminski is the author of "America's Autopsy Report," a
collection of his Internet essays seen on hundreds of websites around
the world, and also "The Day America Died: Why You Shouldn't Believe
the Official Story of What Happened on September 11, 2001," a 48-page
booklet written for those who insist on believing the government's
version of events. For more information about both, go to
http://www.johnkaminski.com/


Comment
From Leslie Bell
4-17-4
Those planes pulled "G" forces in those turns that were impossible.
The planes have built-in safeguards that make such maneuvers
impossible (for the protection of the passenger and crew), EVEN WHEN
AUTOPILOT IS DISABLED. The only way those planes could have done those
maneuvers is if their internal safety restraints were overruled from
outside remote control. This bit of information COMES FROM COMMERCIAL
AIRPLANE PILOTS, and was widely available days after 9-11 when
commercial pilots said what they saw was impossible.

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User: "Perry Noid"

Title: Re: Where is the Evidence? 22 Apr 2004 02:43:57 PM
Your Worst Nightmare <jschmoe12@netzero.com> wrote:

From:
http://rense.com/general51/fatal.htm

The Fatal Flaw In
The 911 Coverup
Why can no one name the hijackers or prove they flew the planes?

They identified most the hijackers early because the people on the
planes (before they died) used their cell phones to give the police the
hijacker's seat numbers.
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User: "Your Worst Nightmare"

Title: Re: Where is the Evidence? 22 Apr 2004 09:53:44 PM
(Perry Noid) wrote in message news:<3108bce57a33b1e7ca02e1306acd74e9@news.teranews.com>...

Your Worst Nightmare <jschmoe12@netzero.com> wrote:

From:
http://rense.com/general51/fatal.htm

The Fatal Flaw In
The 911 Coverup
Why can no one name the hijackers or prove they flew the planes?


They identified most the hijackers early because the people on the
planes (before they died) used their cell phones to give the police the
hijacker's seat numbers.

Would those be the seat numbers of the 8 supposed "highjackers" that
are still alive?
http://search.netscape.com/ns/search?query=%22alive+hijackers%22&fromPage=NSCPSuggestion
Did they call them from their cell phones that can't work while flying
at jet speed?
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=911+cell+phone+calls&num=10&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=rense.com&safe=images
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User: "Strabo"

Title: Re: Where is the Evidence? 23 Apr 2004 02:40:29 AM
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:43:57 GMT,
(Perry
Noid) wrote:

Your Worst Nightmare <jschmoe12@netzero.com> wrote:

From:
http://rense.com/general51/fatal.htm

The Fatal Flaw In
The 911 Coverup
Why can no one name the hijackers or prove they flew the planes?


They identified most the hijackers early because the people on the
planes (before they died) used their cell phones to give the police the
hijacker's seat numbers.

But the names cited as those of the hijackers are not on any of
the plane's manifests.
Victims And Hijackers List For All Four Airliners
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11
There are suppose to be 92 victims
There are only 86 victims on this official list
Why are 6 people missing from this list
None of the 5 alleged hijackers are on this list
1. Satam M.A. Al Suqami
2. Waleed M. Alshehri
3. Wail M. Alshehri
4. Mohamed Atta
5. Abdulaziz Alomari
American Airlines Flight 11, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los
Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World
Trade Center with 92 people on board.
CREW
John Ogonowski, 52, of Dracut, Massachusetts, was the pilot of
Flight 11. He lived on a 150-acre farm north of Boston. He is
survived by his wife, Margaret, and three daughters, Laura, 16;
Caroline, 14; and Mary, 11. A lifelong aviation buff, he joined
the Air Force after graduating from college and flew planes at
the close of the Vietnam War. He joined American Airlines in
1979.
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, of Portsmouth, New
Hampshire, was Flight 11's co-pilot. He is survived by his wife,
Cheryl, and a 14-year-old son and 16-year-old daughter. He was
active in Bethany Church in Greenland, New Hampshire, friends and
neighbors told The Boston Globe.
Rick DeKoven, a church administrator, described him as "a devoted
family man."
Barbara Arestegui, 38, was a flight attendant from Marstons
Mills, Massachusetts.
Jeffrey Collman was a flight attendant.
Sara Low, 28, was a flight attendant from Batesville, Arkansas.
Karen Martin was a flight attendant.
Kathleen Nicosia was a flight attendant.
Betty Ong, 45, was a flight attendant from Andover,
Massachusetts.
Jean Roger, 24, was a flight attendant from Longmeadow,
Massachusetts.
Dianne Snyder, 42, was a flight attendant from Westport,
Massachusetts.
Madeline Sweeney, 35, was a flight attendant from Acton,
Massachusetts.
PASSENGERS
Anna Williams Allison, 48, of Stoneham, Massachusetts, was the
founder of A2 Software Solutions, a firm that assists companies
in software development. Allison had more than 19 years'
experience in the software development industry and was a
frequent speaker and trainer at national and local conferences.
David Angell, 54, of Pasadena, California, was the creator and
executive producer of the hit NBC sitcom "Frasier." A native of
West Barrington, Rhode Island, Angell entered the Army after
graduating from college and served at the Pentagon until 1972. He
worked in insurance and engineering before selling a script for a
TV series in 1977. In 1983, he joined the TV series "Cheers" as a
staff writer and began working with co-supervising producers
Peter Casey and David
Lee. This team formed a production company, creating and
producing "Wings" in 1990 and "Frasier" in 1993. The trio won 24
Emmys.
Lynn Angell, 45, of Pasadena, California, was the wife of
"Frasier" creator and executive producer David Angell. The
Angells were returning from a wedding on the East Coast to attend
the Emmy Awards.
Seima Aoyama
Myra Aronson, 52, of Charlestown, Massachusetts, was a press and
analyst relations manager for Compuware Corp.
Christine Barbuto, 32, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a buyer
for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home
fashions. She was on her way to California on a buying trip.
Barbuto is survived her father and two sisters. She had worked
for TJX for five years.
Berry Berenson, 53, of Los Angeles, California, was an actress
and photographer. She was the widow of actor Anthony Perkins, who
died in 1992, and sister of actress and model Marisa Berenson.
She is survived by two sons, Osgood, an actor, and Elvis. Born
into an aristocratic family, Berenson appeared in the movies "Cat
People" (1982), "Winter Kills" (1979) and "Remember My Name"
(1978).
Carolyn Beug, 48, of Los Angeles, California, was traveling with
her mother, Mary Wahlstrom. They had gone to Boston to drop off
relatives at a nearby college and were returning home.
Carol Bouchard, 43, of Warwick, Rhode Island, was a Kent County
Hospital emergency room secretary.
Robin Caplin was from Natick, Massachusetts.
Neilie Casey, 32, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a merchandise
planning manager for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel
and home fashions. She worked for TJX for eight years. Casey is
survived by her husband and a 7-month-old daughter.
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, of Abington, Massachusetts, was a security
analyst for Compaq Computer. He is survived by his wife,
Christie, and three children, Meagan, 10; Julia, 7; and Matt, 12.
Tara Creamer, 30, of Worcester, Massachusetts, was a merchandise
planning manager for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel
and home fashions. She had worked for TJX for eight years.
Creamer is survived by her husband, John, and two children,
Colin, 4, and Nora, 1.
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, was a Wilmot, New Hampshire, resident with
10 grandchildren. She was on her way to visit a sister in
California. Daughter Cheryl O'Brien gave her mom a ride to catch
a bus to Logan International Airport in Boston. "I was the last
one to see her," O'Brien said. "I got to kiss her and say 'I love
you' and 'Have a nice trip.' "
Patrick Currivan
Andrew Curry Green was from Chelmsford, Massachusetts.
Brian Dale, 43, of Warren, New Jersey, was an accountant and
attorney with Blue Capital Management. He was married and the
father of three.
David DiMeglio was from Wakefield, Massachusetts.
Donald Ditullio, 49, was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Albert Dominguez, 66, was a baggage handler for Qantas Airways in
Sydney, Australia. He was traveling on holiday at the time of his
death. He was married with four children.
Alex Filipov, 70, was an electrical engineer from Concord,
Massachusetts.
Carol Flyzik, 40, was from Plaistow, New Hampshire.
Paul Friedman, 45, from Belmont, Massachusetts, was a consultant
for Emergence Consulting.
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a senior
investment analyst for John Hancock.
Peter Gay, 54, of Tewksbury, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co.
vice president of operations for electronic systems based in
Andover, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for more than
28 years.
Linda George, 27, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX
Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She
was on her way to California on a buying trip. George is survived
by her father, mother, sister and brother. She was engaged to be
married.
Edmund Glazer, 41, of Los Angeles, California, was the chief
financial officer and vice president of finance and
administration of MRV Communications, a Chatsworth, California,
firm that focuses on
optical components and network infrastructure systems. Glazer was
survived by his wife, Candy, and son, Nathan.
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, of Needham, Massachusetts, was an
assistant vice president, merchandise manager, for TJX Cos., the
off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her
way to California on a buying trip. Gordenstein is survived by
her husband and two children.
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, was a spiritual adviser from Newton,
Massachusetts.
Peter Hashem, 40, was an engineer from Tewksbury, Massachusetts.
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts was a sales
engineer with Netstal.
Ted Hennessy, 35, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting in
Belmont, Massachusetts.
John Hofer
Cora Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts, was with Sudbury
Food Pantry, an interdenominational program that assisted needy
families, at Our Lady of Fatima Church.
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts, was the owner of
Brae Burn Management.
John Jenkins
Charles Jones, 48, was a computer programmer from Bedford,
Massachusetts.
Robin Kaplan, 33, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a senior store
equipment specialist for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of
apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California to
help
prepare for a new T.J. Maxx store opening. Kaplan had returned to
work this year after battling Crohn's disease, a life-threatening
inflammatory illness of the gastrointestinal tract. She is
survived
by her father, Edward Kaplan, and mother, Francine.
Barbara Keating, 72, was from Palm Springs, California.
David Kovalcin, 42, of Hudson, New Hampshire, was a Raytheon Co.
senior mechanical engineer for electronic systems in Tewksbury,
Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for 15 years.
Judy Larocque, 50, of Framingham, Massachusetts, was the founder
and CEO of Market Perspectives, a research firm that offers
online and on-site surveys. Before founding the company in 1993,
she was the principal of Emergent Marketing, an executive
marketing consulting firm.
Jude Larson, 31, was from Los Angeles, California.
Natalie Larson was from Los Angeles, California.
N. Janis Lasden, 46, of General Electric was from Peabody,
Massachusetts.
Daniel John Lee, 34, was from Los Angeles, California.
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, was the co-founder and chief technology
officer at
Akamai Technologies Inc., a Cambridge, Massachusetts, company
that produces technology equipment to facilitate online
content delivery. He is survived by his wife and two sons. He
founded Akamai in 1998 with scientist Tom Leighton and a group of
Massachusetts Institute of Technology scientists and business
professionals. Lewin was responsible for the company's research
and development strategy.
Susan MacKay, 44, of Westford, Massachusetts, was an employee of
TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions.
Chris Mello, 25, was a financial analyst with Alta Communications
from Boston. He graduated from Princeton University with a degree
in psychology. He is survived by his parents, Douglas and Ellen
Mello of Rye, New York; a brother, John Douglas Mello of New York
City; and his paternal grandmother, Alice Mello, of Barefoot Bay,
Florida.
Jeff Mladenik, 43, of Hinsdale, Illinois, was the interim
president at E-Logic.
Antonio Montoya
Carlos Montoya
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, was the Qantas Airways area sales manager
in Boston. She lived in Framingham, Massachusetts, with her
husband. She was traveling on company business at the time of her
death.
Mildred Naiman was from Andover, Massachusetts.
Laurie Neira
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island, was a customer
service agent with American Airlines.
Jacqueline Norton, 60, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. She was
traveling with her husband,
Robert Norton.
Robert Norton, 82, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. He was
traveling with his wife, Jacqueline Norton.
Jane Orth, 49, of Haverhill, Massachusetts, was retired from
Lucent Technology.
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California, was a cameraman
for Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television.
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts, was a retired
ballet dancer.
David Retik was from Needham, Massachusetts. He was a general
partner and founding member of Alta Communications, a
Boston-based investment firm specializing in communication
industries. Retik graduated from Colgate University and received
a master's in accounting from
New York University. He is survived by his wife, Susan and their
two children, Ben and Molly.
Philip Rosenzweig of Acton, Massachusetts, was an executive with
Sun Microsystems.
Richard Ross, 58, of Newton, Massachusetts, headed his own
management consulting company, the Ross Group.
Jessica Sachs, 22, of Billerica, Massachusetts was an accountant
with PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Rahma Salie, 28, was from Boston.
Heather Smith, 30, of Beacon Capital Partners was from Boston.
Douglas Stone, 54, was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Xavier Suarez
Michael Theodoridis, 32, was a consultant from Boston.
James Trentini, 65, was a retired teacher and assistant principal
from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Trentini, 67, was a retired secretary from Everett,
Massachusetts.
Mary Wahlstrom, 75, of Kaysville, Utah, was traveling with her
daughter, Carolyn Beug. They had gone to Boston to drop off
relatives at a nearby college and were returning home.
Kenneth Waldie, 46, of Methuen, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co.
senior quality control engineer for electronic systems in
Tewksbury, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for 17
years.
John Wenckus, 46, was a tax consultant from Torrance, California.
Candace Lee Williams, 20, was a student from Danbury,
Connecticut.
Christopher Zarba, 47, of Hopkinton, Massachusetts, was a
software engineer at Concord Communications. He leaves behind a
wife and family. He would have been 48 on September 15.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
There are suppose to be 64 victims
There are only 56 victims on this official list
Why are 8 people missing from this list
None of the 5 alleged hijackers are on this list
1. Khalid Almihdhar
2. Majed Moqed
3. Nawaf Alhazmi
4. Salem Alhazmi
5. Hani Hanjour
American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles,
crashed into the Pentagon with 64
people aboard.
CREW
Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain.
He is survived by a wife, a
daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience
flying with American Airlines
and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle
neighborhood, was the first officer on
the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his
neighbor Travis White, told The
Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have
some day."
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight
attendant for 30 years. She left
behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was
the wife of flight attendant Kenneth
Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was
the husband of flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with
the U.S. Department of
Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address
racial and ethnic disparities in
health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of
Medicine, Ambrose last year was named
the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of
Preventative Medicine.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in
Washington. He was
embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National
Marine Sanctuary near Santa
Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National
Geographic Society.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of
Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher
at Backus Middle School in
Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip
to the Channel Islands
National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part
of a program funded by the
National Geographic Society.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in
Washington. Asia was embarking on
an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine
Sanctuary near Santa Barbara,
California, as part of a program funded by the National
Geographic Society.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a
fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham
Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on
an educational trip to the
Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara,
California, as part of a program
funded by the National Geographic Society.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in
Washington. He was
embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National
Marine Sanctuary near Santa
Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National
Geographic Society.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo
Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the
director of research at ECOlogic
Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for
NASA and also developed data
systems for the study of global and regional environmental
issues. Falkenburg was traveling with
his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8,
and Dana, 3.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter
of Charles Falkenberg and
Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the
daughter of Charles Falkenberg and
Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic
Society's geography education outreach
program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students
and teachers on an
educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A
Mississippi native, he joined the society in
1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the
depth of his commitment to one of
the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's
president. "Joe was here at the
office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was
his goal to make this trip perfect in
every way."
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy
admiral and retired American Airlines
pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care
consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive
at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the
chief operating officer of Metrocall
Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the
National Geographic Society. She
was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an
educational trip to the Channel Islands
in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his
fondest memories of Judge is a
voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were
rafting the Monkey River in Belize.
"This was quintessential Ann-living life to the fullest and
wanting to share it with others," he
said.
Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El
Segundo, California.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit
organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of
Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined
the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications
practice. She was married to Peter
Batacan.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate
director of clinical research for
a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and
chief executive officer of
Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was
married and had two children.
Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his
family's yellow Labrador, who had
been left behind until they could settle into their new home in
Arlington, Virginia.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often
appeared on CNN and was married
to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her
husband as the plane was being
hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers
were armed with knives. She
had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the
last minute so that she could be
with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator
for the House Government
Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff
of Senate Minority Whip Don
Nickles.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing
propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical
engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government
relations at the Washington office of
Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls,
Virginia, and was married to Stephen
Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on
developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced
in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business
lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's
gymnastics coach at the University
of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post
August 31 and was making the trip to
California to start work.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary
School in Washington. She was
accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel
Islands National Marine Sanctuary
near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by
the National Geographic Society.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland.
The professor of public policy at
Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her
husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45,
and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling
to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington
had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National
University in Canberra.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua175.victims.html
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175
There are suppose to be 65 victims
There are only 56 victims on this official list
Why are 9 people missing from this list
None of the 5 alleged hijackers are on this list
1. Marwan Al-Shehhi
2. Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad
3. Ahmed Alghamdi
4. Hamza Alghamdi
5. Mohand Alshehri.
United Airlines Flight 175, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los
Angeles, California, was the
second hijacked plane to strike the World Trade Center, plowing
into the south tower. Two pilots,
seven flight attendants and 56 passengers were on board.
CREW
Capt. Victor Saracini, 51, of Lower Makefield Township,
Pennsylvania, was a Navy veteran. He is
survived by his wife and two children.
Michael Horrocks was first officer.
Robert J. Fangman was a flight attendant.
Amy N. Jarret, 28, of North Smithfield, Rhode Island, was a
flight attendant.
Amy R. King was a flight attendant.
Kathryn L. Laborie was a flight attendant.
Alfred G. Marchand of Alamogordo, New Mexico, was a flight
attendant.
Michael C. Tarrou was a flight attendant.
Alicia N. Titus was a flight atteandant.
PASSENGERS
Alona Avraham, 30, was from Ashdot, Israel.
Garnet "Ace" Bailey, 53, of Lynnfield, Massachusetts, was
director of pro scouting for the Los
Angeles Kings hockey team. Bailey was entering his 33rd season as
a player or scout in the
National Hockey League and his eighth with the Kings. Before
joining the Kings, he spent 13
years as a scout for the Edmonton Oilers, a team that won five
Stanley Cups during that time. As
a player, Bailey spent five years with the Boston Bruins and was
a member of Stanley Cup
championship teams in 1969-70 and 1971-72. Bailey also spent
parts of two seasons each with
the Detroit Red Wings and St. Louis Blues, and three years with
the Washington Capitals. He is
survived by his wife, Katherine, and son, Todd.
Mark Bavis, 31, of West Newton, Massachusetts, was entering his
second season as an amateur
scout for the Los Angeles Kings. A Boston native, he played four
years on Boston University's
hockey team, where his twin brother, Michael, is an assistant
coach. In addition to his twin
brother, Bavis is survived by his mother, Mary; two other
brothers, Pat and Johnny; and three
sisters, Kelly, Mary Ellen and Kathy. The Bavis family lost a
brother 15 years ago, and Bavis'
father died 10 years ago.
Graham Berkeley, 37, of Xerox Corp. was from Wellesley,
Massachusetts.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, was from Beverly Hills, California.
Klaus Bothe, 31, of Germany was on a business trip with BCT
Technology AG's chief executive
officer and another executive. Bothe joined the company in 1994
and was its director of development. He is survived by his wife
and one child.
Daniel Brandhorst, of Los Angeles, California, was a lawyer for
PriceWaterhouse.
David Brandhorst, 3, was from Los Angeles.
John Cahill was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, of Turner Falls, Massachusetts, was
staff assistant in the office of information technology at the
University of Massachusetts-Amherst.
John Corcoran "Jay" Corcoran, 44, of Norwell, Massachusetts, was
a merchant marine.
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, was from Long Beach, California.
Gloria Debarrera
Lisa Frost, 22, of Rancho Santa Margarita, California, graduated
from Boston University this year,
with degrees in communications and business hospitality. She is
survived by her father, mother
and brother.
Ronald Gamboa, 33, of Los Angeles, California, was a Gap store
manager.
Lynn Goodchild, 25, was from Attleboro, Massachusetts.
The Rev. Francis E. Grogan, 76, of Easton, Massachusetts, was a
priest at Holy Cross Church in
Easton. A veteran of World War II, Grogan served as a parish
priest, a chaplain and teacher at
Holy Cross schools.
Carl Hammond, 37, was from Boston, Massachusetts.
Peter Hanson, 32, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a software
salesman.
Susan Hanson, 35, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a student.
Christine Hanson, 3, was from Groton, Massachusetts.
Gerald Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James E. Hayden, 47, of Westford, Massachusetts, was the chief
financial officer of Netegrity Inc.
Hayden is survived by his wife, Gail, and their two children.
Herbert Homer,48, of Milford, Massachusetts, worked for Raytheon
Co.
Robert Jalbert, 61, of Swampscott, Massachusetts, was a salesman.
Ralph Kershaw, 52, of Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts, was a
marine surveyor.
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman and chief executive officer of BCT
Technology Ag, of Germany was
on a business trip involving contract negotiations with U.S.
partners along with two other BCT
execs, the company said in a statement. Kimmig studied mechanical
engineering in college. After
an internship, he became the design manager at Badische Stahl
Engineering, and shortly after, he
founded BSE Computer-Technologie GmbH, originally a locally
operating software company. In
1999, this company became BCT Technology AG. Kimmig is survived
by his wife and two children.
Brian Kinney, 29, of Lowell, Massachusetts, was an auditor for
PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Robert LeBlanc, 70, of Lee, New Hampshire, was a professor
emeritus of geography at the
University of New Hampshire. After earning his doctorate at the
University of Minnesota, LeBlanc
joined the University of New Hampshire's faculty in 1963 as a
cultural geographer. With a
specialty in Canadian studies, he looked at the Franco-American
communities in New England's
mill towns. He was acting chair and chair of the geography
department for nearly 10 years, retiring
in 1999.
Maclovio "Joe" Lopez Jr., 41, was from Norwalk, California.
Marianne MacFarlane
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, was from Derry, New Hampshire.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, was from New London, Connecticut.
Ruth McCourt, 24, was from Westford, Massachusetts.
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, of Germany joined BCT Technology AG in 2000
as director of human
resources. He is survived by his wife and one child. Menzel had
planned to retire in six months.
Shawn Nassaney, 25, was from Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Patrick Quigley, 40, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a partner
at PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Frederick Rimmele was a physician from Marblehead, Massachusetts.
James M. Roux, 42, was from Portland, Maine.
Jesus Sanchez, 45, was an off-duty flight attendant from Hudson,
Massachusetts.
Kathleen Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Robert Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Jane Simpkin, 35, was from Wayland, Massachusetts.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, was from Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Timothy Ward, 38, of San Diego, California, worked at the
Carlsbad, California-based Rubio's
Restaurants Inc. A 14-year veteran of the company, he opened its
second restaurant in San Diego
and most recently worked in the information technology
department.
William Weems of Marblehead, Massachusetts, was a commercial
producer.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua93.victims.html
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93
There are suppose to be 45 victims
There are only 33 victims on this official list
Why are 12 people missing from this list
None of the 4 alleged hijackers are on this list
1. Saeed Alghamdi
2. Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi
3. Ahmed Alnami
4. Ziad Samir Jarrah
United Airlines Flight 93, from Newark, New Jersey, to San
Francisco, California, crashed in rural
southwest Pennsylvania, with 45 people on board.
CREW
Jason Dahl, 43, from Denver, Colorado, was the plane's captain.
He had a wife and son. Dahl had
a lifelong interest in flying, said his aunt, Maxine Atkinson, of
Waterloo, Iowa.
Leroy Homer, 36, from Marlton, New Jersey, was the first officer
on board. He was married and
had a daughter.
Lorraine Bay was a flight attendant.
Sandra Bradshaw, 38, of Greensboro, North Carolina, was a flight
attendant.
Wanda Green was a flight attendant.
CeeCee Lyles of Fort Myers, Florida, was a flight attendant. She
reached her husband, Lorne, by
cell phone to tell him that she loved him and their children
before the plane went down. The couple
between them had four children.
Deborah Welsh was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Christian Adams
Todd Beamer, 32, was from Cranbury, New Jersey.
Alan Beaven, 48, of Oakland, California, was an environmental
lawyer.
Mark Bingham, 31, of San Francisco owned a public relations firm,
the Bingham Group. He called
his mother, Alice Hoglan, 15 minutes before the plane crashed and
told her that the plane had
been taken over by three men who claimed to have a bomb. Hoglan
said her son told her that
some passengers planned to try to regain control of the plane.
"He said, 'I love you very, very
much, ' " Hoglan said.
Deora Bodley, 20, of Santa Clara, California, was a university
student.
Marion Britton
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, of San Ramon, California, was a senior
vice president and chief
operating officer of Thoratec Corp., a medical research and
development company, and the father
of three. He made four calls to his wife, Deena, from the plane.
Deena Burnett said that her
husband told her that one passenger had been stabbed and that "a
group of us are going to do
something." He also told her that the people on board knew about
the attack on the World Trade
Center, apparently through other phone calls.
William Cashman
Georgine Corrigan
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Felt, 41, was from Matawan, New Jersey.
Colleen Fraser
Andrew Garcia
Jeremy Glick, 31, from West Milford, New Jersey, called his wife,
Liz, and in-laws in New York on
a cell phone to tell them the plane had been hijacked, Joanne
Makely, Glick's mother-in-law, told
CNN. Glick said that one of the hijackers "had a red box he said
was a bomb, and one had a knife
of some nature," Makely said. Glick asked Makely if the reports
about the attacks on the World
Trade Center were true, and she told him they were. He left the
phone for a while, returning to say,
"The men voted to attack the terrorists," Makely said.
Lauren Grandcolas of San Rafael, California, was a sales worker
at Good Housekeeping magazine.
Donald F. Green, 52, was from Greenwich, Connecticut.
Linda Gronlund
Richard Guadagno, 38, of Eureka, California, was the manager of
the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Humboldt Bay National
Wildlife Refuge.
Toshiya Kuge
Waleska Martinez
Nicole Miller
Mark Rothenberg
Christine Snyder, 32, was from Kailua, Hawaii. She was an
arborist for the Outdoor Circle and was
returning from a conference in Washington. She had been married
less than a year.
John Talignani
Honor Wainio
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/nation/0927hijackerlist.html
FBI releases updated list of alleged hijackers
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON-The FBI is reaching out to the public by releasing
photographs of the 19
suspected hijackers, a move designed to bring in information from
people who may have seen the
men before the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
As Attorney General John Ashcroft launched a "national
neighborhood watch" with the release of
the photos, FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged that
questions remained about whether an
accompanying list contained the true names of the 19.
"What we are currently doing is determining whether, when these
individuals came to the United
States, these were their real names or they changed their names
for use with false identification in
the United States," Mueller said.
The FBI director said there was evidence that one or more of the
hijackers had had contacts with
al-Qaida, the network associated with Osama bin Laden, the exiled
Saudi millionaire who is the
Bush administration's top suspect in the attacks.
AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight 77 -- Crashed into the Pentagon:
1. Khalid Almihdhar: Possible Saudi national, possible resident
of San Diego, Calif., and New
York. Aliases: Sannan Al-Makki; Khalid Bin Muhammad; 'Addallah
Al-Mihdhar; Khalid Mohammad
Al-Saqaf.
2. Majed Moqed: Possible Saudi national. Aliases: Majed M. GH
Moqed; Majed Moqed, Majed
Mashaan Moqed.
3. Nawaf Alhazmi: Possible Saudi national, possible resident of
Fort Lee, N.J.; Wayne, N.J.; San
Diego, Calif. Aliases: Nawaf Al-Hazmi; Nawaf Al Hazmi; Nawaf M.S.
Al Hazmi.
4. Salem Alhazmi: Possible Saudi national, possible resident of
Fort Lee, N.J., or Wayne, N.J.
5. Hani Hanjour: Possible resident of Phoenix and San Diego.
Aliases: Hani Saleh Hanjour; Hani
Saleh; Hani Saleh H. Hanjour.
AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight 11 -- Crashed into the North Tower of
the World Trade Center:
1. Satam M.A. Al Suqami: Possible Saudi national. Date of birth
used: June 28, 1976; Last known
address: United Arab Emirates.
2. Waleed M. Alshehri: Possible Saudi national. Dates of birth
used: Sept. 13, 1974; Jan. 1, 1976;
March 3, 1976; July 8, 1977; Dec. 20, 1978; May 11, 1979; Nov. 5,
1979. Possible residences:
Hollywood, Orlando and Daytona Beach, Fla. Believed to be a
pilot.
3. Wail M. Alshehri: Date of birth used: Sept. 1, 1968. Possible
residences: Hollywood, Fla.;
Newton, Mass. Believed to be a pilot.
4. Mohamed Atta: Possible Egyptian national. Date of birth used:
Sept. 1, 1968. Possible residences: Hollywood, Fla; Coral
Springs, Fla; Hamburg, Germany. Believed to be a pilot.
Aliases: Mehan Atta; Mohammad El Amir; Muhammad Atta; Mohamed El
Sayed; Mohamed
Elsayed; Muhammad Muhammad Al Amir Awag Al Sayyid Atta; Muhammad
Muhammad Al-Amir
Awad Al Sayad.
5. Abdulaziz Alomari: Possible Saudi national. Dates of birth
used: Dec. 24, 1972 and May 28,
1979. Possible residence: Hollywood, Fla. Believed to be a pilot.
UNITED AIRLINES Flight 175 -- Crashed into the South Tower of the
World Trade Center:
1. Marwan Al-Shehhi: Date of birth used: May 9, 1978. Possible
residence: Hollywood, Fla.
Believed to be a pilot. Aliases: Marwan Yusif Muhammad Rashid
Al-Shehi; Marwan Yusif Muhammad Rashid Lakrab Al-Shihhi; Abu
Abdullah.
2. Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad: Possible
residence: Delray Beach, Fla.
Aliases: Fayez Ahmad; Banihammad Fayez Abu Dhabi Banihammad;
Fayez Rashid Ahmed;
Banihammad Fayez; Rasid Ahmed Hassen Alqadi; Abu Dhabi Banihammad
Ahmed Fayez; Faez
Ahmed.
3. Ahmed Alghamdi: Alias: Ahmed Salah Alghamdi
4. Hamza Alghamdi: Possible residence: Delray Beach, Fla.
Aliases: Hamza Al-Ghamdi; Hamza
Ghamdi; Hamzah Alghamdi; Hamza Alghamdi Saleh.
5. Mohand Alshehri: Possible residence: Delray Beach, Fla.
Aliases: Mohammed Alshehhi;
Mohamd Alshehri; Mohald Alshehri.
UNITED AIRLINES Flight 93 -- Crashed in rural Pennsylvania:
1. Saeed Alghamdi: Possible residence: Delray Beach, Fla.
Aliases: Abdul Rahman Saed Alghamdi; Ali S Alghamdi; Al-Gamdi;
Saad M.S. Al Ghamdi; Sadda Al Ghamdi; Saheed Al-Ghamdi; Seed Al
Ghamdi.
2. Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi: Possible Saudi national. Date of
birth used: Oct. 11, 1980.
Possible residence: Delray Beach, Fla. Alias: Ahmed Alhaznawi.
3. Ahmed Alnami: Possible residence: Delray Beach, Fla. Aliases:
Ali Ahmed Alnami; Ahmed A.
Al-Nami; Ahmed Al-Nawi.
4. Ziad Samir Jarrah: Believed to be a pilot. Aliases: Zaid
Jarrahi; Zaid Samr Jarrah; Ziad S.
Jarrah; Ziad Jarrah Jarrat, Ziad Samir Jarrahi.
The Perplexing Puzzle Of The Published Passenger Lists
By Gary North
Maybe you like puzzles. I hope so. I don't like them. I regard
them as a challenge, not a game. I
avoid them because, when I cannot find a solution, my mind won't
stop working on them. Then I
get very frustrated. So, I avoid magic shows, crossword puzzles,
and similar brain- twisters.
Yet I am also a historian with a Ph.D. Historians are trained to
solve puzzles with insufficient
pieces. Historians never have all of the evidence that they would
like in order to come up with a
coherent explanation of what happened. They always want another
piece in the puzzle before they
go into print. (Of course, once they go into print, they will
tend to reject any newly discovered
piece that messes up their version of the completed puzzle.) At
some point, they are supposed to
come to a conclusion. They are supposed to make a judgment about
what happened.
I am presently stuck. So, I am sending out this report. Maybe
there is someone my list who can
get me unstuck.
Years ago, I saw a movie, "My Cousin Vinnie." Vinnie was studying
to be a lawyer. He wasn't a
good classroom student, but he had a unique ability. He could
figure out how things fit together.
Show him a magic trick, and he could tell you how the magician
did it. Tell him a story with a
missing link, and he could identify where the missing link was,
and maybe what it was. He could
solve puzzles.
I am trying to locate Vinnie.
This puzzle is no game. The United States has gone to war on the
basis of one solution to this puzzle. We have not yet been told
what this solution is.
The puzzle begins with the crash of four airliners. We must work
our way backward from this.
To do this, I decided to begin with official information that was
published 16 days after the attack.
To work my way backwards, I first leaped forward.
ALLEGED HIJACKERS
On September 27, the Associated Press released a story about the
hijackers. The version that I
read, published in the ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION, referred to
these men as alleged
hijackers. I shall do the same.
I located this article by using www.daypop.com. Daypop is the
most complete archive of recent
news stories on the Web. Daypop allows you to search for stories
that are up to four weeks old.
I searched for "passenger list" and "hijackers." Daypop produced
three pages of links-not that
many. Almost all of these links were to the same AP story, which
was published by numerous
on-line news sources. Here is the version I used.
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/nation/0927hijackerlist.html
The headline reads: "FBI releases updated list of alleged
hijackers." Above the headline is a link
that says, "Click here to see 19 suspected hijackers." I clicked
it. A large box popped up. It took
a while for the photos to appear. There are 19 photos, along with
names. The names appear to be
Middle Eastern-Arabs. Most of the men look like Arabs, although a
few might pass as Mexicans. Only one of them looked vaguely like
a European.
They are divided into four lists, according to which flight they
are said to have boarded. There were
five men on American Airlines Flight 77, five on AA Flight 11,
five on United Airlines Flight 175,
and four on UA Flight 93 -- the flight that crashed in
Pennsylvania.
Let's return to the AP story itself. We read the following:
As Attorney General John Ashcroft launched a "national
neighborhood watch" with the release of
the photos, FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged that
questions remained about whether an
accompanying list contained the true names of the 19.
"What we are currently doing is determining whether, when these
individuals came to the United States, these were their real
names or they changed their names for use with false
identification in
the United States," Mueller said.
The FBI director said there was evidence that one or more of the
hijackers had had contacts with al-Qaida, the network associated
with Osama bin Laden, the exiled Saudi millionaire who is the
Bush administration's top suspect in the attacks.
This story indicates that, as of September 27, the FBI was not
certain whether these suspects had used their real names. The
remainder of the story listed each of their names, along with
possible aliases. The aliases all look like Arab names.
I have discovered no additional information released to the
general public regarding these suspects.
I now backtrack to the morning of September 11. The issue that I
am trying to deal with is airline security. To draw rational
conclusions about how the alleged hijackers accomplished their
acts of terrorism, we must begin with airline security.
The United States has now gone to war because of a breakdown
somewhere in airline security procedures. Yet nobody in
government is blaming the specific airlines. They are blaming the
procedures. This is why I want you mentally to go through the
procedures with me. I have hit a
brick wall. I am asking you to help me knock it down. I will show
you how I went through the procedures mentally. See if you can
figure out which step I missed.
Step One is check-in.
STEP ONE: CHECK-IN
On September 11, airline check-in counters were the only places
in the United States that required travellers to present a photo
ID in order to travel. A photo ID meant (and still means) a card
issued by some branch of civil government. Years ago, the United
States government took he first step toward a national ID card
when it mandated the requirement that all passengers present a
photo ID card before being allowed to get on a commercial
airplane.
This means that the tightest security that the typical American
ever confronts is airport security.
This is the model for all other security systems governing the
general public.
Let's go through the check-in routine together. Pretend that it's
September 11, and you are a
check-in agent at either a United Airlines counter or an American
Airlines counter. It is your job to
ask the standard questions. "Did you pack your own luggage? Have
you had it in your possession
at all times?" Then you ask for a photo ID. The name on the ID
must match the name on the ticket. The photo must match the
person presenting the card.
I began with American Airlines, Flight 11. This was the plane
that crashed into the north tower of
the World Trade Center. I began with the list of passengers. This
was not difficult. The passenger
lists for all four planes are posted on CNN's Website.
Click on the link. This is a long link for the formatting of my
newsletter. If it is broken on your
screen, you will have to paste it into your Web browser's address
box. This will take two steps.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html
The CNN page says that there were 92 people on board. I suggest
that you print out the list. Part
of my exercise was to count the names of the passengers. Besides,
you never know when a Web
page will disappear.
Do you have the print-out in front of you? Count the names. I get
86 names, including the crew.
But the CNN page says 92 people were on board.
None of the 86 names is an Arab name. This is very, very strange.
First, how did the CNN
list-compiler know that there were 92 people on board? Five of
them are not listed. Second, how
did anyone get on board who was not on the list of ticketed
passengers?
To get onto the flight legally, each passenger had to have a
ticket with his or her name on it. Each
passenger had to present a photo ID to the check-in agent. The
check-in agent was supposed to
look at the picture and the person, and then make a judgment. Was
it the same person? If the
mandated procedure was followed, the check-in agent decided that
the ticket's name, the photo
ID's name, the photo, and the ID-holder's face all matched. If
there was any doubt, the check-in
agent was supposed to ask for some other form of identification.
If there was none, the person
was not allowed to board the plane.
We are told by the United States government that five Arabs
somehow got through this initial
screening procedure. How did they do this? This is puzzle number
one regarding Flight 11. Puzzle
number two has to do with the incomplete passenger list.
Airlines keep a list of passengers on board. This is for
insurance purposes, should there be a
crash. It is also for the purpose of notifying relatives after a
crash. It is also for the purpose of
in-cabin screening. "Has everyone paid who is on the plane?" And,
finally, is there a hijacker on
board?
On American Airlines Flight 11, there were no Arab names on the
passenger list. So, how does
the government know who the hijackers were?
Why does CNN's Web page list 92 dead, when there are only 86 name
listed? Who was the non-Arab?
I have seen nothing about government accusations against American
Airlines for substandard check-in security procedures. In fact, I
have seen nothing about the discrepancy between the published
names and the published numbers regarding how many people were on
board.
Let's go to American Airlines Flight 77. This plane crashed into
the Pentagon.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
We are told that 64 people were on board. I count 56, including 6
crew members. There is no explanation offered for the absence of
8 names. There is no Arab name on this list.
Something is definitely wrong here.
What about United Airlines? Did the company's employees follow
the same check-in procedure?
Presumably, they did. I checked Flight 175, which crashed into
the south tower.
There were 56 people on board, according to CNN's summation. I
printed out the list. I counted the
names. Once again, they don't add up. The summation says there
were 2 pilots, 7 flight attendants, and 56 passengers. I counted
the names. The total is 56 -- the number attributed to the
passengers. Nine names are missing. None of the listed names is
Arab.
This leaves United Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania. It
had 45 people on board, according
to the summation.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua93.victims.html
Again, there is a discrepancy. Only 33 names appear on the list.
A dozen names are missing.
Among the missing names are the four Arabs who allegedly hijacked
the plane.
So, the published names in no instance match the total listed for
the number of people on board.
CNN really should offer an explanation for this discrepancy.
In no case does an Arab name appear on a list, let alone one of
the alleged hijackers.
How did CNN fail to count the names accurately? Did the airlines
not provide the full list of each
flight's names? Perhaps so.
This raises the next question. How did the airlines know how many
people were on each of these
flights? The airlines must have had a list for each flight. What
possible reason could they have had
for not releasing the full lists? Finally, why are there no Arabs
listed on any of these lists, let alone
the specific Arabs identified by the Attorney General and the
head of the FBI in an Associated
Press story?
I do not understand how 19 Arabs could have evaded the check-in
procedures. I also do not understand why every passenger's name
is not on the published lists.
I have seen no other source of the passenger lists. (Another
search word: "manifests.") It has now
been over a month since the attack. Where is a complete list? I
don't know. Where is a complete
list of all four flights that has the alleged hijackers' names on
it? I don't know.
Finally, where is some enterprising reporter who is trying to get
answers? I don't know.
What about Step Two?
STEP TWO: ON-BOARD SEATING
There were multiple terrorists in the cabin of each plane when
the plane left the ground. They did
not get there through the ticket-screening system. Or did they?
If they did, then how?
I assume here-again, maybe I am wrong-that they got there through
another entrance. Maybe
they were part of the food service team.
These were all cross-country flights. The planes were loaded with
lots of fuel, which is why they
were selected: flying bombs. On cross-country flights, passengers
still are given meals, not just
pretzels and soft drinks. The number of meals is supposed to
match the number of people on board, or at least come close.
Flight attendants have a list of passengers and their assigned
seats. This is to enable them to
identify passengers who have requested special meals, such as
kosher meals. It is also to enable
them to identify people who have not bought a ticket. Flight
attendants are supposed to know who
has been assigned to which seat.
It is September 11. Here is the situation: there are an extra
five men on three flights, and four extra men on Flight 93.
You have already seen the photos of these men. If I had been a
flight attendant, and I saw five
extra men who looked like they did-young, Arabic, and without
tickets-I would have asked
them to explain why they were on board. I would not have assumed
that they belonged there.
Are we to assume that on four separate flights, none of the
flight attendants noticed that
something was wrong? Are we to believe that they failed to notice
that five or four extra
passengers were on board who were not on the passenger list?
Furthermore, these men looked
as though they were of one ethnic group. They all had Arabic
accents, I presume.
Why did the flight attendants ignore all this? There is no
indication from the government that these
men took over all four planes while the planes were still on the
ground. Even if they had, the pilots
would not have taken off if there were hijackers on board. They
would have waited to hear the
demands, and the demand to "take off now" would have been refused
by at least one flight crew-
and I believe all four.
We need a theory of the co-ordinated hijacking that rests on a
plausible cause-and-effect
sequence that does not assume the complete failure of both the
check-in procedures and the
on-board seating procedures on four separate flights on two
separate airlines. If the explanation
does rely on a theory of check-in procedural breakdown, where is
the evidence?
I have heard no such theory from the government. I have heard no
such theory from the news
media. In fact, I have heard neither the government nor the
mainstream media even mention these
perplexing problems. Perhaps you have. If so, I would like to see
the Web link or a reference to
the newspaper or other source where these matters have been
discussed.
I don't mean this or that discussion forum devoted to conspiracy
theories. I mean the mainstream
press. It is very peculiar that the mainstream media and the
government have not offered a detailed theory of how the
hijackers evaded both the check-in procedures and the pre-takeoff
seating procedures.
Perhaps some airline industry publication has dealt with this. If
so, I would like to see the document.
I would also like to see passenger lists that include every
passenger's name. I want to see 19 Arab names on these complete
lists.
If these updated lists are ever released, I want to see that they
match the original lists that were
not released immediately. I want to know that any new names have
not been added retroactively. I
want evidence-from travel agencies' records and credit card
records-that everyone on each
plane's updated passenger list actually bought a ticket.
Is this to much to ask? So far, apparently it is.
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen. Well, not all of them. We
have gone to war based on one
of them. But I don't see how anyone can make an accurate judgment
about who was behind the
attacks until he has a plausible explanation of how the hijackers
got onto the planes and were not
removed.
I am not interested in any theory about who did it until I have a
plausible explanation for how he
did it.
The key to discovering who planned this attack is inescapably
tied to the procedures used by his
agents to do it.
I don't see how they did it, yet I know that three planes crashed
into highly visible targets. A fourth
plane had veered off course, and it seems plausible that it was
part of a co-ordinated attack. This
has yet to be proven, but it seems plausible.
We keep hearing about plastic knives and box cutters. But we hear
nothing about how these 19
men took plastic knives and box cutters onto four planes, and no
one noticed that anything was
amiss until the planes were in the air.
So, you tell me. How did 19 Arabs get onto these planes and then
remain inconspicuous until the
planes were aloft?
CONCLUSION
I have no conclusion. I told you this at the beginning. I am
stuck.
I am looking for Vinnie. Maybe you're Vinnie. After you have
drawn your own conclusion, and it
seems reasonable, let me know.
But before you do, please run your theory by someone whose
judgment you trust. See if that
person thinks your theory is plausible. See if he or she can pick
holes in it. Don't make me your
first guinea pig. I want to be at least second. Third would be
even better.
We need to get the division of intellectual labor working here.
As the Bible says, "Two are better
than one; because they have a good reward for their labour. For
if they fall, the one will lift up his
fellow: but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath
not another to help him up" (Ecclesiastes 4:9-10).
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