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"Captain Compassion" |
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22 Apr 2006 07:39:21 PM |
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Who is Mary McCarthy? |
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Well, as of this morning (Saturday) most of the big media don't care.
They're fixated with the weather and gas prices — and anything else
that will divert the public's attention from the stunning revelation
that a Sandy Berger crony has apparently been leaking top-secret
information from her high post at the CIA. The media will continue to
downplay this story as they cover-up their own role in exposing our
nation's secrets, including the supposed existence of CIA prisons in
Europe. She'll be called a "whistleblower" and praised as some kind of
patriot (a patriot, in the eyes of the media, is anybody who
undermines this administration and the war effort by leaking national
security secrets to them). They will downplay that McCarthy was a
Clintonoid who somehow managed to land a top post at the CIA,
ultimately winding up in the CIA's Inspector General's Office, from
where she could monitor CIA internal investigations of, well, leaks,
among other things.
The news spin, to the extent attention is being paid to this by the
big media outlets, is that McCarthy's firing is unprecedented! Or it's
Bush's fault! In one of the most absurd comments by any newsman
anywhere, Newsbusters.org notes that Bob Schieffer of CBS Evening News
asserted that “it is no secret that the current administration does
not like its people hanging out with news reporters without
permission” and he described the firing as “a first — a dubious first,
to be sure.” Here. Is this guy for real?
If she leaked she must be charged. I wonder what Schieffer would say
then? I suppose he would urge that she receive the Presidential Medal
of Freedom. After all, the Washington Post's Dana Priest, who
apparently served as McCarthy's stenographer, was just awarded the
Pulitzer Prize.
I must say, however, that the media's sickening hypocrisy knows no
bounds. They came to the defense of Joe Wilson and his wife, Valerie
Plame, who worked behind-the-scenes to get her husband that
“fact-finding” trip to Niger. They demanded an investigation into who
“leaked” Plame’s identity to Bob Novak — which ensnared their own
reporters. They hoped they would critically wound the president, and
they failed. Clearly Plame was not undercover and the revelation of
her identity was not a crime. Lewis Libby now stands accused of lying
about a crime that never occurred and the media think that’s a good
thing.
Now comes Mary McCarthy, who apparently leaked real classified
national-security secrets and the media largely dismiss it or defend
it. They have no curiosity about McCarthy, the extent of her leaks, to
whom she leaked (beyond Priest, did she leak to other reporters,
members of Congress, other governments?), how she secured top security
posts, and her ties to the Clinton administration. Surely there is
every reason the government should pursue this investigation at least
as vigorously as the Plame matter has been pursued. Dana Priest, among
others, should have her day before a grand jury.
And watch the congressional Democrats follow the media’s lead. Long
ago they put party and power above victory in this war. McCarthy’s
ties to Clinton threaten to take attention from their unrelenting
attack on the Bush administration and their claims of incompetence in
the management of the war, which they see as their ticket to majority
status in 2006.
Putting that aside, the discovery of McCarthy does make you wonder how
many more of her ilk have squirreled themselves into the bureaucracy,
from where they seek to undermine the country.
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Callistus Valerius" |
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22 Apr 2006 08:47:35 PM |
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She put the Democrat party first, and the country last. Did she have to
blow Bill Clinton to get this job? Enquiring minds need to know.
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Well, as of this morning (Saturday) most of the big media don't care.
They're fixated with the weather and gas prices - and anything else
that will divert the public's attention from the stunning revelation
that a Sandy Berger crony has apparently been leaking top-secret
information from her high post at the CIA. The media will continue to
downplay this story as they cover-up their own role in exposing our
nation's secrets, including the supposed existence of CIA prisons in
Europe. She'll be called a "whistleblower" and praised as some kind of
patriot (a patriot, in the eyes of the media, is anybody who
undermines this administration and the war effort by leaking national
security secrets to them). They will downplay that McCarthy was a
Clintonoid who somehow managed to land a top post at the CIA,
ultimately winding up in the CIA's Inspector General's Office, from
where she could monitor CIA internal investigations of, well, leaks,
among other things.
The news spin, to the extent attention is being paid to this by the
big media outlets, is that McCarthy's firing is unprecedented! Or it's
Bush's fault! In one of the most absurd comments by any newsman
anywhere, Newsbusters.org notes that Bob Schieffer of CBS Evening News
asserted that "it is no secret that the current administration does
not like its people hanging out with news reporters without
permission" and he described the firing as "a first - a dubious first,
to be sure." Here. Is this guy for real?
If she leaked she must be charged. I wonder what Schieffer would say
then? I suppose he would urge that she receive the Presidential Medal
of Freedom. After all, the Washington Post's Dana Priest, who
apparently served as McCarthy's stenographer, was just awarded the
Pulitzer Prize.
I must say, however, that the media's sickening hypocrisy knows no
bounds. They came to the defense of Joe Wilson and his wife, Valerie
Plame, who worked behind-the-scenes to get her husband that
"fact-finding" trip to Niger. They demanded an investigation into who
"leaked" Plame's identity to Bob Novak - which ensnared their own
reporters. They hoped they would critically wound the president, and
they failed. Clearly Plame was not undercover and the revelation of
her identity was not a crime. Lewis Libby now stands accused of lying
about a crime that never occurred and the media think that's a good
thing.
Now comes Mary McCarthy, who apparently leaked real classified
national-security secrets and the media largely dismiss it or defend
it. They have no curiosity about McCarthy, the extent of her leaks, to
whom she leaked (beyond Priest, did she leak to other reporters,
members of Congress, other governments?), how she secured top security
posts, and her ties to the Clinton administration. Surely there is
every reason the government should pursue this investigation at least
as vigorously as the Plame matter has been pursued. Dana Priest, among
others, should have her day before a grand jury.
And watch the congressional Democrats follow the media's lead. Long
ago they put party and power above victory in this war. McCarthy's
ties to Clinton threaten to take attention from their unrelenting
attack on the Bush administration and their claims of incompetence in
the management of the war, which they see as their ticket to majority
status in 2006.
Putting that aside, the discovery of McCarthy does make you wonder how
many more of her ilk have squirreled themselves into the bureaucracy,
from where they seek to undermine the country.
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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23 Apr 2006 12:07:13 PM |
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"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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She put the Democrat party first, and the country last.
You apparently *don't* know how it works. You see, when a government entity
(or official) declares their own illegal activity as "classified" that is
called "abuse of power". When someone discloses the the illegal activities
of a government entitity (or official) that were illegally classified using
abuse of power, it's called "whistleblowing". It is an act of patriotism of
the highest order.
Further, when a government entity (or official) commits a crime and covers
it up, it is called "being a Republican".
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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22 Apr 2006 09:02:32 PM |
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"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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She put the Democrat party first, and the country last. Did she have
to
blow Bill Clinton to get this job? Enquiring minds need to know.
So is she being charged with revealing secrets? What secret did she reveal
and why is this a bad thing, in this SPECIFIC case?
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23 Apr 2006 09:46:02 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d3jl4295fr7laj2fc8rjcooljabcnjdtik@4ax.com...
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Well, as of this morning (Saturday) most of the big media don't care.
They're fixated with the weather and gas prices - and anything else
that will divert the public's attention from the stunning revelation
that a Sandy Berger crony has apparently been leaking top-secret
information from her high post at the CIA. The media will continue to
downplay this story as they cover-up their own role in exposing our
nation's secrets, including the supposed existence of CIA prisons in
Europe. She'll be called a "whistleblower" and praised as some kind of
patriot (a patriot, in the eyes of the media, is anybody who
undermines this administration and the war effort by leaking national
security secrets to them). They will downplay that McCarthy was a
Clintonoid who somehow managed to land a top post at the CIA,
ultimately winding up in the CIA's Inspector General's Office, from
where she could monitor CIA internal investigations of, well, leaks,
among other things.
The news spin, to the extent attention is being paid to this by the
big media outlets, is that McCarthy's firing is unprecedented! Or it's
Bush's fault! In one of the most absurd comments by any newsman
anywhere, Newsbusters.org notes that Bob Schieffer of CBS Evening News
asserted that "it is no secret that the current administration does
not like its people hanging out with news reporters without
permission" and he described the firing as "a first - a dubious first,
to be sure." Here. Is this guy for real?
If she leaked she must be charged. I wonder what Schieffer would say
then? I suppose he would urge that she receive the Presidential Medal
of Freedom. After all, the Washington Post's Dana Priest, who
apparently served as McCarthy's stenographer, was just awarded the
Pulitzer Prize.
I must say, however, that the media's sickening hypocrisy knows no
bounds. They came to the defense of Joe Wilson and his wife, Valerie
Plame, who worked behind-the-scenes to get her husband that
"fact-finding" trip to Niger. They demanded an investigation into who
"leaked" Plame's identity to Bob Novak - which ensnared their own
reporters. They hoped they would critically wound the president, and
they failed. Clearly Plame was not undercover and the revelation of
her identity was not a crime. Lewis Libby now stands accused of lying
about a crime that never occurred and the media think that's a good
thing.
Now comes Mary McCarthy, who apparently leaked real classified
national-security secrets and the media largely dismiss it or defend
it. They have no curiosity about McCarthy, the extent of her leaks, to
whom she leaked (beyond Priest, did she leak to other reporters,
members of Congress, other governments?), how she secured top security
posts, and her ties to the Clinton administration. Surely there is
every reason the government should pursue this investigation at least
as vigorously as the Plame matter has been pursued. Dana Priest, among
others, should have her day before a grand jury.
And watch the congressional Democrats follow the media's lead. Long
ago they put party and power above victory in this war. McCarthy's
ties to Clinton threaten to take attention from their unrelenting
attack on the Bush administration and their claims of incompetence in
the management of the war, which they see as their ticket to majority
status in 2006.
Putting that aside, the discovery of McCarthy does make you wonder how
many more of her ilk have squirreled themselves into the bureaucracy,
from where they seek to undermine the country.
******
You have put forth a reasonable postion, one that will infuriate the
Moonbats here. Your implied question at the end is well worth further
investigation. Let's hope the Bush DOJ will have the same sense of inquiry.
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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22 Apr 2006 10:07:21 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d3jl4295fr7laj2fc8rjcooljabcnjdtik@4ax.com...
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Putting that aside, the discovery of McCarthy does make you wonder how
many more of her ilk have squirreled themselves into the bureaucracy,
from where they seek to undermine the country.
She's been fired! There are no criminal charges, yet! Right now, I think
all this is based on polygraph...........those things say what the operator
want them to say. Yeah, there is a correlation between the needle and the
emotions of the test subject, but a polygraph alone is barely more than the
non-evidence Bush uses to hold prisoners.
It is not asking to much to demand proof!
I'll wait for the evidence. This group of lawless buffoons have such a poor
track record, that whatever they allege is almost certain to prove opposite
to their statement.
If they have evidence let them proceed with due process.
"undermine the country".............like torture and airborne concentration
camps don't undermine our country! All that is missing is the wooden bars
of soap.
The proof that these inhuman and un-America ways of torture and violation of
the Geneva Conventions undermine our country is encapsulated in the
question........."Where's Osama?"
Why don't we know the answer to that...........because Bush's ways sink to
the same level.........only the number of Bush's dead exceed the numbers of
Osama's dead.
Randy R. Cox
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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23 Apr 2006 12:12:25 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:07:21 -0500, "Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d3jl4295fr7laj2fc8rjcooljabcnjdtik@4ax.com...
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Putting that aside, the discovery of McCarthy does make you wonder how
many more of her ilk have squirreled themselves into the bureaucracy,
from where they seek to undermine the country.
She's been fired! There are no criminal charges, yet! Right now, I think
all this is based on polygraph...........those things say what the operator
want them to say. Yeah, there is a correlation between the needle and the
emotions of the test subject, but a polygraph alone is barely more than the
non-evidence Bush uses to hold prisoners.
She also admitted to contacts with the press.
"The CIA fired a top intelligence analyst who admitted leaking
classified information that led to a Pulitzer Prize-winning story
about a network of secret CIA prisons, government officials say. The
officer was a senior analyst nearing retirement, Mary McCarthy."
It is not asking to much to demand proof!
I'll wait for the evidence. This group of lawless buffoons have such a poor
track record, that whatever they allege is almost certain to prove opposite
to their statement.
If they have evidence let them proceed with due process.
I'm sure they will.
Seems that the secret prisons she outed don't actually exist.
EU terror chief lacks proof of CIA prisons
By Dan Bilefsky International Herald Tribune
FRIDAY, APRIL 21, 2006
BRUSSELS The European Union's anti-terrorism chief told a hearing
Thursday that he had not been able to prove that secret CIA prisons
existed in Europe.
"We've heard all kinds of allegations," the official, Gijs de Vries,
said before a packed Chamber of Deputies. "It does not appear to be
proven beyond reasonable doubt."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/20/news/rendition.php
"undermine the country".............like torture and airborne concentration
camps don't undermine our country! All that is missing is the wooden bars
of soap.
The proof that these inhuman and un-America ways of torture and violation of
the Geneva Conventions undermine our country is encapsulated in the
question........."Where's Osama?"
Why don't we know the answer to that...........because Bush's ways sink to
the same level.........only the number of Bush's dead exceed the numbers of
Osama's dead.
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Randy Cox" |
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23 Apr 2006 07:13:53 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:07:21 -0500, "Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net>
wrote:
She also admitted to contacts with the press.
Are you stating that as fact.......or hearsay? I don't think she is talking
about this. Peter Goss is crowing about it, but I don't think she is saying
anything. Goss is part of an administration that has told more untruth than
truth. Some people just continue to accept information from unrelieable
sources as fact. I prefer to wait for more substantial information.
If they have evidence let them proceed with due process.
I'm sure they will.
I believe you were certain about weapons of mass destruction as well. This
administration is not keen on due process, why do you think they will
embrace it here?
Seems that the secret prisons she outed don't actually exist.
Is this where words are parsed. A single cell with the occupant strapped
down to the floor of a cargo plane is a prison. We've seen the non-secret
ones where those captured in Afghanistan were shackled to the floor and
transported to Cuba. Those exist; we've seen them. Bush and sub-human
American pre-nazi's boasted of them with pride. If we know of those but not
of the number of them or if any of them are flying around over Eastern
Europe.........then secret prisons reported by the leaker are both prisons
and secret.
EU terror chief lacks proof of CIA prisons
By Dan Bilefsky International Herald Tribune
FRIDAY, APRIL 21, 2006
BRUSSELS The European Union's anti-terrorism chief told a hearing
Thursday that he had not been able to prove that secret CIA prisons
existed in Europe.
"We've heard all kinds of allegations," the official, Gijs de Vries,
said before a packed Chamber of Deputies. "It does not appear to be
proven beyond reasonable doubt."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/20/news/rendition.php
Well, I guess that settles that, huh? Come on Captain! You've got to be
suppressing a gut busting laugh at that conclusion. The CIA says the leak
badly damaged national security and this guy says "It does not appear to be
proven beyond a reasonable doubt." Who you gonna believe?
"undermine the country".............like torture and airborne
concentration
camps don't undermine our country! All that is missing is the wooden bars
of soap.
The proof that these inhuman and un-America ways of torture and violation
of
the Geneva Conventions undermine our country is encapsulated in the
question........."Where's Osama?"
Why don't we know the answer to that...........because Bush's ways sink to
the same level.........only the number of Bush's dead exceed the numbers
of
Osama's dead.
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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23 Apr 2006 02:34:30 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:13:53 -0500, "Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:g52m42p73q4gtikiut1vhrr3p26b5isabs@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:07:21 -0500, "Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net>
wrote:
She also admitted to contacts with the press.
Are you stating that as fact.......or hearsay? I don't think she is talking
about this. Peter Goss is crowing about it, but I don't think she is saying
anything. Goss is part of an administration that has told more untruth than
truth. Some people just continue to accept information from unrelieable
sources as fact. I prefer to wait for more substantial information.
If they have evidence let them proceed with due process.
I'm sure they will.
I believe you were certain about weapons of mass destruction as well. This
administration is not keen on due process, why do you think they will
embrace it here?
Seems that the secret prisons she outed don't actually exist.
Is this where words are parsed. A single cell with the occupant strapped
down to the floor of a cargo plane is a prison. We've seen the non-secret
ones where those captured in Afghanistan were shackled to the floor and
transported to Cuba. Those exist; we've seen them. Bush and sub-human
American pre-nazi's boasted of them with pride. If we know of those but not
of the number of them or if any of them are flying around over Eastern
Europe.........then secret prisons reported by the leaker are both prisons
and secret.
EU terror chief lacks proof of CIA prisons
By Dan Bilefsky International Herald Tribune
FRIDAY, APRIL 21, 2006
BRUSSELS The European Union's anti-terrorism chief told a hearing
Thursday that he had not been able to prove that secret CIA prisons
existed in Europe.
"We've heard all kinds of allegations," the official, Gijs de Vries,
said before a packed Chamber of Deputies. "It does not appear to be
proven beyond reasonable doubt."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/20/news/rendition.php
Well, I guess that settles that, huh? Come on Captain! You've got to be
suppressing a gut busting laugh at that conclusion. The CIA says the leak
badly damaged national security and this guy says "It does not appear to be
proven beyond a reasonable doubt." Who you gonna believe?
Another possible explanation is that the CIA is very good at hiding
there prisons.
"undermine the country".............like torture and airborne
concentration
camps don't undermine our country! All that is missing is the wooden bars
of soap.
The proof that these inhuman and un-America ways of torture and violation
of
the Geneva Conventions undermine our country is encapsulated in the
question........."Where's Osama?"
Why don't we know the answer to that...........because Bush's ways sink to
the same level.........only the number of Bush's dead exceed the numbers
of
Osama's dead.
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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22 Apr 2006 10:22:14 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d3jl4295fr7laj2fc8rjcooljabcnjdtik@4ax.com...
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Your article casts doubt about their being any "secret prisons" run by the
USA.
If the prisons don't exist, why is the revealing of the information harmful
to the USA?
The author (and most conservatives) run away from the fact that the USA has
no business running Soviet style secret prisons. That is not the USA I grew
up respecting - that's the sort of ***** done by countless piece-of-*****
dictators like Stalin, Hitler, etc. I stand up and applaud any patriotic
American who reveals this clearly UNAMERICAN and probably illegal activity
on the part of the government.
Your side certainly wouldn't sit still for a Democratic President operating
secret prisons where he/she could "disappear" people to under the guise of
being "suspected terrorists".
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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23 Apr 2006 12:16:40 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:22:14 GMT, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d3jl4295fr7laj2fc8rjcooljabcnjdtik@4ax.com...
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Your article casts doubt about their being any "secret prisons" run by the
USA.
If the prisons don't exist, why is the revealing of the information harmful
to the USA?
The author (and most conservatives) run away from the fact that the USA has
no business running Soviet style secret prisons. That is not the USA I grew
up respecting - that's the sort of ***** done by countless piece-of-*****
dictators like Stalin, Hitler, etc. I stand up and applaud any patriotic
American who reveals this clearly UNAMERICAN and probably illegal activity
on the part of the government.
Your side certainly wouldn't sit still for a Democratic President operating
secret prisons where he/she could "disappear" people to under the guise of
being "suspected terrorists".
You are correct. There is little proof of actual prisons.
EU terror chief lacks proof of CIA prisons
By Dan Bilefsky International Herald Tribune
FRIDAY, APRIL 21, 2006
BRUSSELS The European Union's anti-terrorism chief told a hearing
Thursday that he had not been able to prove that secret CIA prisons
existed in Europe.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/20/news/rendition.php
I suspect that's not all she talked about.
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"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilizaton is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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28 Apr 2006 01:24:51 PM |
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abracadabra wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d3jl4295fr7laj2fc8rjcooljabcnjdtik@4ax.com...
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Your article casts doubt about their being any "secret prisons" run by the
USA.
If the prisons don't exist, why is the revealing of the information harmful
to the USA?
So CIA leaks are okay? Thanks for endorsing Plame's reveal :)
The author (and most conservatives) run away from the fact that the USA has
no business running Soviet style secret prisons. That is not the USA I grew
up respecting - that's the sort of ***** done by countless piece-of-*****
dictators like Stalin, Hitler, etc. I stand up and applaud any patriotic
American who reveals this clearly UNAMERICAN and probably illegal activity
on the part of the government.
Unfortunately, for leftist dipshits like yourself, the vast majority of
Americans don't give a ***** where terrorists are sent, as long as
they're out of society. Anyway, continue sobbing, sympathizer.
Your side certainly wouldn't sit still for a Democratic President operating
secret prisons where he/she could "disappear" people to under the guise of
being "suspected terrorists".
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| User: "Galen Hekhuis" |
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28 Apr 2006 01:53:46 PM |
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On 28 Apr 2006 11:24:51 -0700, wrote:
abracadabra wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d3jl4295fr7laj2fc8rjcooljabcnjdtik@4ax.com...
Who is Mary McCarthy?
http://levin.nationalreview.com/archives/095634.asp
Your article casts doubt about their being any "secret prisons" run by the
USA.
If the prisons don't exist, why is the revealing of the information harmful
to the USA?
So CIA leaks are okay? Thanks for endorsing Plame's reveal :)
I think you must not have understood. If the CIA does not run any secret
prisons, a story that says they do is hardly a leak, it is sheer fantasy.
Perhaps the government is prosecuting people for having fantasies about the
CIA. If, however, they do exist, that is illegal, and denying it is a lie.
Telling about it is technically a leak, but keeping it secret or even
trying to keep it quiet is not a lawful order, something that even a
private in the Army isn't obliged to obey.
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Hell hath no fury like a bird in the hand.
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