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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 21 Dec 2005 06:12:22 PM
Object: Whopper: George W. Bush
http://www.slate.com/id/2132934/
Whopper: George W. Bush
The president crosses his fingers behind his back.
ByTimothy Noah
Wednesday, Dec. 21, 2005
"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government
talking about wiretap, it requires--a wiretap requires a court order.
Nothing has changed, by the way.
When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about
getting a court order before we do so.
It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think
Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to
doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the
Constitution."
---President Bush, at a Q and A in Buffalo, N.Y., April 20, 2004.
Q: Why did you skip the basic safeguards of asking courts for
permission for the intercepts?
A: First of all, I--right after September the 11th, I knew we were
fighting a different kind of war.
And so I asked people in my administration to analyze how best for me
and our government to do the job people expect us to do, which is to
detect and prevent a possible attack.
That's what the American people want.
We looked at the possible scenarios.
And the people responsible for helping us protect and defend came
forth with the current program, because it enables us to move faster
and quicker.
And that's important.
We've got to be fast on our feet, quick to detect and prevent.
We use [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] still--you're
referring to the FISA court in your question--of course, we use FISAs.
But FISA is for long-term monitoring.
What is needed in order to protect the American people is the ability
to move quickly to detect.
---President Bush, at a press conference Dec. 19, 2005, after the New
York Times reported that Bush had directed the National Security
Agency to wiretap "hundreds, perhaps thousands" of phone conversations
inside the United States without seeking court orders.
Comment.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan, asked at a Dec. 20 press
briefing whether the president's 2004 remarks might have been a wee
bit misleading, said, "I think he was talking about [it] in the
context of the Patriot Act."
In other words, Bush was reassuring his fellow Americans that he
wouldn't impose warrantless wiretaps under the Patriot Act because he
was already imposing warrantless wiretaps with no legal authority at
all.
He just forgot to say the second part.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ya got it? Good.
Harry
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User: "Beava Cleava"

Title: Re: Whopper: George W. Bush 21 Dec 2005 07:21:46 PM
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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http://www.slate.com/id/2132934/

Whopper: George W. Bush
The president crosses his fingers behind his back.

ByTimothy Noah

Wednesday, Dec. 21, 2005


"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government
talking about wiretap, it requires--a wiretap requires a court order.

Nothing has changed, by the way.

When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about
getting a court order before we do so.

It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think
Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to
doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the
Constitution."

---President Bush, at a Q and A in Buffalo, N.Y., April 20, 2004.



Q: Why did you skip the basic safeguards of asking courts for
permission for the intercepts?


A: First of all, I--right after September the 11th, I knew we were
fighting a different kind of war.

And so I asked people in my administration to analyze how best for me
and our government to do the job people expect us to do, which is to
detect and prevent a possible attack.

That's what the American people want.

We looked at the possible scenarios.

And the people responsible for helping us protect and defend came
forth with the current program, because it enables us to move faster
and quicker.

And that's important.

We've got to be fast on our feet, quick to detect and prevent.

We use [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] still--you're
referring to the FISA court in your question--of course, we use FISAs.

But FISA is for long-term monitoring.

What is needed in order to protect the American people is the ability
to move quickly to detect.


---President Bush, at a press conference Dec. 19, 2005, after the New
York Times reported that Bush had directed the National Security
Agency to wiretap "hundreds, perhaps thousands" of phone conversations
inside the United States without seeking court orders.



Comment.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, asked at a Dec. 20 press
briefing whether the president's 2004 remarks might have been a wee
bit misleading, said, "I think he was talking about [it] in the
context of the Patriot Act."

In other words, Bush was reassuring his fellow Americans that he
wouldn't impose warrantless wiretaps under the Patriot Act because he
was already imposing warrantless wiretaps with no legal authority at
all.

He just forgot to say the second part.

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Ya got it? Good.

Harry

Bush just nailed his own coffin.
.
User: "A Veteran for Peace"

Title: Re: Whopper: George W. Bush 21 Dec 2005 10:16:25 PM
In article <11qjvthn87h7633@corp.supernews.com>,
"Beava Cleava" <gizmo100@peeps.com> wrote:

"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:brrjq152mlnj0bdd21hkm98gu1n363qku6@4ax.com...


http://www.slate.com/id/2132934/

Whopper: George W. Bush
The president crosses his fingers behind his back.

ByTimothy Noah

Wednesday, Dec. 21, 2005


"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government
talking about wiretap, it requires--a wiretap requires a court order.

Nothing has changed, by the way.

When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about
getting a court order before we do so.

It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think
Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to
doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the
Constitution."

---President Bush, at a Q and A in Buffalo, N.Y., April 20, 2004.



Q: Why did you skip the basic safeguards of asking courts for
permission for the intercepts?


A: First of all, I--right after September the 11th, I knew we were
fighting a different kind of war.

And so I asked people in my administration to analyze how best for me
and our government to do the job people expect us to do, which is to
detect and prevent a possible attack.

That's what the American people want.

We looked at the possible scenarios.

And the people responsible for helping us protect and defend came
forth with the current program, because it enables us to move faster
and quicker.

And that's important.

We've got to be fast on our feet, quick to detect and prevent.

We use [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] still--you're
referring to the FISA court in your question--of course, we use FISAs.

But FISA is for long-term monitoring.

What is needed in order to protect the American people is the ability
to move quickly to detect.


---President Bush, at a press conference Dec. 19, 2005, after the New
York Times reported that Bush had directed the National Security
Agency to wiretap "hundreds, perhaps thousands" of phone conversations
inside the United States without seeking court orders.



Comment.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, asked at a Dec. 20 press
briefing whether the president's 2004 remarks might have been a wee
bit misleading, said, "I think he was talking about [it] in the
context of the Patriot Act."

In other words, Bush was reassuring his fellow Americans that he
wouldn't impose warrantless wiretaps under the Patriot Act because he
was already imposing warrantless wiretaps with no legal authority at
all.

He just forgot to say the second part.

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Ya got it? Good.

Harry

Bush just nailed his own coffin.

Just a matter of time now. buh,bye,bush
--
Impeach Bush ! a noble cause
Operation Iraqi Liberation = O.I.L.
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