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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "J Young"
Date: 10 Oct 2005 09:28:46 PM
Object: Who's Looking Out for the Christians?
Who's Looking Out for the Christians?
by Bill O'Reilly
Posted Oct 10, 2005
Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers reminds me of June Cleaver, who
birthed Beaver and Wally in 1960s sitcom land. Standing next to
President Bush, I kept envisioning Harriet holding a tray of cookies
for the president and any senator who might want one.
Now I realize this portrayal of Ms. Miers is immature and possibly
offensive to people who resent this kind of foolishness when
professional women are involved. But trust me, my daydream about
Harriet Miers is not nearly as offensive as what is going on in some
media precincts. Many conservative pundits don't like Harriet because
she's not "right" enough. And some lefties believe she's not qualified
to serve her country because she's a practicing Christian.
Writing in the secular temple that is The New York Times, columnist
Maureen Dowd states: "(President Bush) is asking for a triple leap of
faith. He has faith in Ms. Miers as his lawyer and as a woman who
shares his faith. And we're expected to have faith in his faith and her
faith that could change the balance of the court and affect women's
rights for the next generation."
Of course Ms. Dowd worships at the altar of Roe v. Wade, and any person
who might be pro-life is automatically unsuitable in her mind to hold a
decision-making position. But the truth is, Harriet Miers has not
publicly stated her position on abortion and probably will never do so.
Thus, Ms. Dowd is objecting to Ms. Miers because she attends an
Evangelical Christian Church in Texas, and we can't have those kinds of
people on the Court, can we?
Some liberal journalists and politicians are clearly saying
conservative Christians need not apply to serve their country. This, of
course, is outrageous and unconstitutional. If that kind of bias were
directed at any other American group, there would be hell to pay. But
Christians are fair game for media scorn, mockery and dismissal.
A recent Gallup survey puts the number of Americans who call themselves
Christians at 84 percent, and that kind of majority is dangerous to the
goals of the secular-progressive movement. The main opposition to
things like gay marriage, euthanasia, legalized drugs and all kinds of
abortion on demand for any girl or woman are faith-based people who
form judgments about behavior and object to a society that does not. If
you eliminate people of faith from positions of power in the USA, well,
hello, Holland.
It is worth noting that according to the American Society of Newspaper
Editors, journalists are much less "Christian" than the country as a
whole. A 1997 study says 59 percent of newspaper people call themselves
Catholic or Protestant and 20 percent say they don't believe in God at
all. According to Gallup, just 9 percent of the American population is
atheist or agnostic.
Mark my words, in the weeks to come, you will hear all kinds of
anti-Christian stuff in the media when Harriet Miers is being
discussed. Some of it will be subtle, but not all. This is a
clip-and-save moment. The secular media knows Ms. Miers will be
confirmed to the Supreme Court, but they will get their anti-Christian
digs in during the process.
As a Christian, I have already forgiven my misguided peers for what
they will inevitably do. Also, after 12 years of Catholic school, I
know a thing or two about demons. The demonization of Harriet Miers
will be very instructive to watch. And she looks like such a nice
woman.
.

User: "Scott Richter"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 10:42:46 AM

Some liberal journalists and politicians are clearly saying
conservative Christians need not apply to serve their country.

Yes, apparently Christians are such a persecuted minority, they need
this millionaire bigot to stand up for them. Otherwise, how will this
country ever elect a Christian to public office?

Also, after 12 years of Catholic school, I know a thing or
two about demons.

We know you do, Bill. We know you do...
.

User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 04:33:04 AM
In article <1128997726.711667.175880@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

I look out for them all the time. But the torches and pitchforks make
them real easy to spot at night, so I don't worry too much.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
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Quotemeister since March 2002
.

User: "Soul food"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 06:33:56 AM
Into alt.atheism shot "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> and
breathlessly exclaimed:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

by Bill O'Reilly
Posted Oct 10, 2005

Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers reminds me of June Cleaver, who
birthed Beaver and Wally in 1960s sitcom land. Standing next to
President Bush, I kept envisioning Harriet holding a tray of cookies
for the president and any senator who might want one.

Now I realize this portrayal of Ms. Miers is immature and possibly
offensive to people who resent this kind of foolishness when
professional women are involved. But trust me, my daydream about
Harriet Miers is not nearly as offensive as what is going on in some
media precincts. Many conservative pundits don't like Harriet because
she's not "right" enough. And some lefties believe she's not qualified
to serve her country because she's a practicing Christian.

Writing in the secular temple that is The New York Times, columnist
Maureen Dowd states: "(President Bush) is asking for a triple leap of
faith. He has faith in Ms. Miers as his lawyer and as a woman who
shares his faith. And we're expected to have faith in his faith and her
faith that could change the balance of the court and affect women's
rights for the next generation."

Of course Ms. Dowd worships at the altar of Roe v. Wade, and any person
who might be pro-life is automatically unsuitable in her mind to hold a
decision-making position.

You believe that, you do not know that, asserting such is therefore a
lie.

But the truth is, Harriet Miers has not
publicly stated her position on abortion and probably will never do so.
Thus, Ms. Dowd is objecting to Ms. Miers because she attends an
Evangelical Christian Church in Texas, and we can't have those kinds of
people on the Court, can we?

You believe that, you do not know that, asserting such is therefore a
lie.

Some liberal journalists and politicians are clearly saying
conservative Christians need not apply to serve their country.

You believe that, you do not know that, asserting such is therefore a
lie.

This, of
course, is outrageous and unconstitutional. If that kind of bias were
directed at any other American group, there would be hell to pay. But
Christians are fair game for media scorn, mockery and dismissal.

A recent Gallup survey puts the number of Americans who call themselves
Christians at 84 percent, and that kind of majority is dangerous to the
goals of the secular-progressive movement. The main opposition to
things like gay marriage, euthanasia, legalized drugs and all kinds of
abortion on demand for any girl or woman are faith-based people who
form judgments about behavior and object to a society that does not.

You believe that, you do not know that, asserting such is therefore a
lie. People who have no religious beliefs are at least as likely to
form judgements about behaviour as those who do.

If
you eliminate people of faith from positions of power in the USA, well,
hello, Holland.

It is worth noting that according to the American Society of Newspaper
Editors, journalists are much less "Christian" than the country as a
whole. A 1997 study says 59 percent of newspaper people call themselves
Catholic or Protestant and 20 percent say they don't believe in God at
all. According to Gallup, just 9 percent of the American population is
atheist or agnostic.

Mark my words, in the weeks to come, you will hear all kinds of
anti-Christian stuff in the media when Harriet Miers is being
discussed. Some of it will be subtle, but not all. This is a
clip-and-save moment. The secular media knows Ms. Miers will be
confirmed to the Supreme Court, but they will get their anti-Christian
digs in during the process.

As a Christian, I have already forgiven my misguided peers for what
they will inevitably do. Also, after 12 years of Catholic school, I
know a thing or two about demons. The demonization of Harriet Miers
will be very instructive to watch. And she looks like such a nice
woman.

If you can only justify your position by telling lies about its
opponents, you have conceded the whole debate. No further response is
necessary.
------------------------------------------------
"If iron chariots make people immune to God (Judges 1:19), why do Christians drive cars?"
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
.

User: "KiriK"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 04:18:39 AM
J Young wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

by Bill O'Reilly
Posted Oct 10, 2005

<snip>

Of course Ms. Dowd worships at the altar of Roe v. Wade, and any person
who might be pro-life is automatically unsuitable in her mind to hold a
decision-making position. But the truth is, Harriet Miers has not
publicly stated her position on abortion and probably will never do so.
Thus, Ms. Dowd is objecting to Ms. Miers because she attends an
Evangelical Christian Church in Texas, and we can't have those kinds of
people on the Court, can we?

Some liberal journalists and politicians are clearly saying
conservative Christians need not apply to serve their country. This, of
course, is outrageous and unconstitutional. If that kind of bias were
directed at any other American group, there would be hell to pay. But
Christians are fair game for media scorn, mockery and dismissal.

Billy is like the most uptight man In the world. The bad part is that
he's getting laid a lot, and it isn't helping.

Mark my words, in the weeks to come, you will hear all kinds of
anti-Christian stuff in the media when Harriet Miers is being
discussed. Some of it will be subtle, but not all. This is a
clip-and-save moment. The secular media knows Ms. Miers will be
confirmed to the Supreme Court, but they will get their anti-Christian
digs in during the process.

Well, they can't say that she's his mistress because they'd get fired,
so they have to say something.
KiriK
.

User: "JohnN"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 10:05:26 AM
J Young wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

by Bill O'Reilly
Posted Oct 10, 2005

It is worth noting that according to the American Society of Newspaper
Editors, journalists are much less "Christian" than the country as a
whole. A 1997 study says 59 percent of newspaper people call themselves
Catholic or Protestant and 20 percent say they don't believe in God at
all. According to Gallup, just 9 percent of the American population is
atheist or agnostic.

Just what does "Christian" mean? If 59% of journalist are Catholic or
Protestant and 20% are atheists does that mean 79% are not "Christian"?
Are the Catholic journalists Christians?


Mark my words, in the weeks to come, you will hear all kinds of
anti-Christian stuff in the media when Harriet Miers is being
discussed. Some of it will be subtle, but not all. This is a
clip-and-save moment. The secular media knows Ms. Miers will be
confirmed to the Supreme Court, but they will get their anti-Christian
digs in during the process.

I'm sure alot of the anti-Christian discussion will come from
conservative Christians on the 700 Club and Jerry Falwell's Taliban
network.
.

User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 10:44:07 PM
J Young wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

by Bill O'Reilly
Posted Oct 10, 2005

Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers reminds me of June Cleaver,

Well, that's as fucking stupid as it gets. Harriet Miers vomited all
over God's will, failing to marry and submit, and became a career
lawyer on top of it all. June Cleaver obeyed God's will.
Then, apparently just to confuse the ***** out of us all, Miers decided
to be an evangelical christian.
June Cleaver: obeyer of God's will who makes me, I'm not ashamed to
say, a little hot and bothered.
Harriet Miers: extremist ***** hater of God's will, though to her
credit she loves God almost as much as GW Bush.
Get a clue, O'Reilly.
.
User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 12 Oct 2005 11:41:25 AM
On 11 Oct 2005 20:44:07 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<santolina@juno.com> wrote:


J Young wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

by Bill O'Reilly
Posted Oct 10, 2005

Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers reminds me of June Cleaver,



Well, that's as fucking stupid as it gets. Harriet Miers vomited all
over God's will, failing to marry and submit, and became a career
lawyer on top of it all. June Cleaver obeyed God's will.

Then, apparently just to confuse the ***** out of us all, Miers decided
to be an evangelical christian.

June Cleaver: obeyer of God's will who makes me, I'm not ashamed to
say, a little hot and bothered.

Harriet Miers: extremist ***** hater of God's will, though to her
credit she loves God almost as much as GW Bush.

Get a clue, O'Reilly.

O'Reilly couldn't get a clue if he doused himself with clue pheromones
and stood in the middle of a clue colony at the height of clue mating
season.
.
User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 13 Oct 2005 09:12:08 AM
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:41:25 GMT, John Baker <nunya@biziniz.net>
wrote:

On 11 Oct 2005 20:44:07 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<santolina@juno.com> wrote:


J Young wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

by Bill O'Reilly
Posted Oct 10, 2005

Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers reminds me of June Cleaver,



Well, that's as fucking stupid as it gets. Harriet Miers vomited all
over God's will, failing to marry and submit, and became a career
lawyer on top of it all. June Cleaver obeyed God's will.

Then, apparently just to confuse the ***** out of us all, Miers decided
to be an evangelical christian.

June Cleaver: obeyer of God's will who makes me, I'm not ashamed to
say, a little hot and bothered.

Harriet Miers: extremist ***** hater of God's will, though to her
credit she loves God almost as much as GW Bush.

Get a clue, O'Reilly.


O'Reilly couldn't get a clue if he doused himself with clue pheromones
and stood in the middle of a clue colony at the height of clue mating
season.


He does have a clue. It's the one that tells him what side his bread
is buttered on. He guides his life by it.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.



User: "Mickey"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 11:19:15 AM
J Young wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

Why your fake savior, of course? Not happy with the service of late?
Maybe you should try a REAL religion instead.
.
User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 02:08:46 PM
on 11 Oct 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Mickey (mickeyb@comcast.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:


J Young wrote:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?


Why your fake savior, of course? Not happy with the service of late?
Maybe you should try a REAL religion instead.


Name one.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Plonked by Raytard
.


User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 04:36:26 AM
On 10 Oct 2005 19:28:46 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1128997726.711667.175880@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
Off topic. Again.
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 10:34:28 AM
What's so funny about peace, love and "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> posting the following on 10 Oct 2005 19:28:46
-0700 iin alt.atheism?

Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers reminds me of June Cleaver, who
birthed Beaver and Wally in 1960s sitcom land.

Leave it to Beaver premiered in 1957.
Typical of O'Reilly's grasp of facts.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 11 Oct 2005 10:52:21 AM
Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> posting the following on 10 Oct 2005 19:28:46
-0700 iin alt.atheism?

Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers reminds me of June Cleaver, who
birthed Beaver and Wally in 1960s sitcom land.


Leave it to Beaver premiered in 1957.

Typical of O'Reilly's grasp of facts.

O'Reilly isn't wrong here - Leave it to Beaver ran until
1963, so was certainly a fixture of "1960s sitcom land".
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
.


User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Who's Looking Out for the Christians? 10 Oct 2005 09:44:28 PM
on 10 Oct 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet J Young (youngopinions@aol.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:

Who's Looking Out for the Christians?

I guess now that their god has been debunked they'll have to fend for
themselves.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Plonked by Raytard
.


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