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30 Jul 2006 05:30:05 AM |
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Why Are Illegal Aliens Livng in Government Subsidized Housing? |
The following articles describe how illegal aliens -- lawbreakers
whose very first interaction with the USA was showing contempt for its
laws -- are living in public housing, as illustrated below from coast
to coast, in the nation's MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKETS at taxpayer
expense.
And to make this obscenity even more obscene, if that's possible, the
government-housed illegal aliens are overtly abusive and hostile (as an
American woman recounts below) to any citizens who think they and their
families have as much right as the illegals do to live in America.
(I'm reminded of the stories -- some probably still accessible online
-- of incidents in which Americans who've tried to solicit work
alongside illegal aliens have literally been chased away, told "they're
stealing work from Mexicans."
We citizens, legal immigrants and legal residents truly are living in
A Time of Treachery in what author has all too presciently termed
"Post-America America. Shame on anyone who does nothing to reverse this
quagmire of treachery. To them I recite these words,
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.
We seek not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands
which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may
posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
-- Samuel Adams
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A New York Reader Learns The True Story Behind A Killing In A
Massachusetts Public Housing Complex; etc.
From: Matthew Richer [e-mail him]
A Boston police officer I went to high school with told me that the
murder victim in a public housing shooting, Alberto Duarte, was an
illegal alien—something the local media omitted, as you will see in
this story. [Dad Slain Trying To Save ‘Sis’, by Jessica Fargen (e-mail
her) and Michelle McPhee, Boston Herald, July 28, 2006.]
Indeed, the Boston Herald story does not mention that many illegals in
Massachusetts live in public housing. Since the Boston area is one of
the most expensive housing markets in the country, citizens apparently
must therefore subsidize the illegal population.
Moreover, Duarte leaves three young anchor babies that will no doubt be
further dependent on state government.
Boston has traditionally had a small, almost non-existent Hispanic
population. Growing up there during the 1980s and 1990s, I saw zero
Hispanics on the MTA.
Now you see them huddled together on the subway speaking Spanish to
each other and wearing their " colors."
Predictably, Boston's crime rate has skyrocketed in recent years. But
no one ever mentions the most obvious factor: Hispanic
immigration—publicly subsidized, of course.
Richer’s previous letter about illegal aliens on Cape Cod is here. And
read "Sarah’s" letter about aliens in California public housing here:
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_071706.htm
Today’s Letter:
A California Reader Wonders Why Illegal Aliens Are Living In Government
Subsidized Housing
From: Sarah
I am a single mother and live alone with my nine-year-old son in a
government subsidized apartment complex. I am the only white woman
living in my section.
The majority of the people living here are Hispanics and many of them
cannot understand or speak English. Most, I' m sure, are illegal aliens.
Since day one, I have received non-stop harassment and hostility from
my new neighbors, starting when I caught two teenagers kicking and
bouncing on my car. I've had obscenities yelled directly at me ("white
*****") in Spanish. Pornography has been thrown into my back patio
where my son plays. They throw their trash in my yard and leave their
beer bottles and caps in front of my apartment.
Men are always hanging around the building. Whenever security or police
approach, they give a loud whistle to warn the others
As a consequence of this aggressive behavior, my son cannot play
outside of our home. I have never lived in government controlled
housing, or as a minority among Hispanics, or alongside so many illegal
aliens.
I used to believe that anyone should be free to live in America, and
that it wasn't fair to keep people out. Now I feel differently.
I was born in America, as were my parents and grandparents.
My neighbors show no respect or graciousness towards U.S. citizens.
But I no longer feel like I belong here. Why should I feel like I have
to leave the town that I grew up in? Could someone please help me
understand why anyone would want to move to a country so badly and then
behave so rudely once they got there?
My last question: if these apartments are government regulated, why are
there so many illegal aliens living in them?
Sarah lives in the San Diego area.
--
http://www.predatoryaliens.com
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org
http://www.daylaborers.org
http://www.newnation.com/index2.html
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather Mac Donald
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
http://idexer.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
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30 Jul 2006 06:16:30 AM |
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Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:30:05 -0500, "George Washington Admirer" <GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.net> wrote:
The following articles describe how illegal aliens -- lawbreakers
whose very first interaction with the USA was showing contempt for its
laws -- are living in public housing, as illustrated below from coast
to coast, in the nation's MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKETS at taxpayer
expense.
And to make this obscenity even more obscene, if that's possible, the
government-housed illegal aliens are overtly abusive and hostile (as an
American woman recounts below) to any citizens who think they and their
families have as much right as the illegals do to live in America.
(I'm reminded of the stories -- some probably still accessible online
-- of incidents in which Americans who've tried to solicit work
alongside illegal aliens have literally been chased away, told "they're
stealing work from Mexicans."
We citizens, legal immigrants and legal residents truly are living in
A Time of Treachery in what author has all too presciently termed
"Post-America America. Shame on anyone who does nothing to reverse this
quagmire of treachery. To them I recite these words,
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.
We seek not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands
which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may
posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
-- Samuel Adams
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30 Jul 2006 09:08:47 PM |
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In article <184pc2ln7c614pgarb5hplr5pe1e253p40@4ax.com>,
says...
Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
Look, it's both some liberals, and some conservatives that support illegals.
Look at Bush, for example of a conservative.
Here's an essay from a leftist.
Published on Wednesday, July 5, 2006 by CommonDreams.org
Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"
by Thom Hartmann
Every time the media - or a Democrat - uses the phrase "Illegal Immigration"
they are promoting one of Karl Rove's most potent Republican Party frames.
The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America.
We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.
Yet it's almost never mentioned in the mainstream media, because to point it
out could slightly reduce the profits and CEO salaries of many of America's
largest multi-state and multinational corporations - who both own the media
and contribute heavily to conservative politicians. Republicans would prefer
that the "criminals" covered in the press are working people, and that
corporate and CEO criminals not get discussed.
As the Busby/Bilray contest showed, "illegal immigration" is a red-hot issue
for American voters. The Democrat Busby was way ahead until she committed a
faux pas before a group of Latinos, leading to (false) media reports
(particularly on right-wing talk radio) that she was encouraging illegal
immigrants to vote for her in the upcoming election. Her Republican opponent
seized on this and hammered the district with ads for the last few days of the
campaign (while voting machines curiously went home at night with some of the
poll workers), and now a Republican lobbyist has taken the seat of a
Republican congressman convicted of illegal deals with Republican lobbyists.
Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire
non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald
Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American
working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that
keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like
NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)
As David Ricardo pointed out with his "Iron Law of Labor" (published in his
1814 treatise "On Labor") when labor markets are tight, wages go up. When
labor markets are awash in workers willing to work at the bottom of the pay
scale, unskilled and semi-skilled wages overall will decrease to what Ricardo
referred to as "subsistence" levels.
Two years later, in 1816, Ricardo pointed out in his "On Profits" that when
the cost of labor goes down, the result usually isn't a decrease in product
prices, but, instead, an increase in corporate and CEO profits. (This is
because the marketplace sets prices, but the cost of labor helps set profits.
For example, when Nike began manufacturing shoes in Third World countries with
labor costs below US labor costs, it didn't lead to $15 Nikes - their price
held, and even increased, because the market would bear it. Instead, that
reduction in labor costs led to Nike CEO Phil Knight becoming a
multi-billionaire.)
Republicans understand this very, very well, although they never talk about
it. Democrats seem not to have read Ricardo, although the average American
gets it at a gut level.
Thus, Americans are concerned that a "flood of illegal immigrants" coming
primarily across our southern border is, to paraphrase Lou Dobbs, "wiping out
the American middle class." And there is considerable truth to it, as part of
the three-part campaign mentioned earlier.
But Dobbs and his fellow Republicans say the solution is to "secure our
border" with a fence like that used by East Germany, but that stretches a
distance about the same as that from Washington, DC to Chicago. It'll be a
multi-billion-dollar boon to Halliburton and Bechtel, who will undoubtedly get
the construction and maintenance contracts, but it won't stop illegal
immigration. (Instead, people will legally come in on tourist and other visas,
and not leave when their visas expire.)
The fact is that we had an open border with Mexico for several centuries, and
"illegal immigration" was never a serious problem. Before Reagan's presidency,
an estimated million or so people a year came into the US from Mexico - and
the same number, more or less, left the US for Mexico at the end of the
agricultural harvest season. Very few stayed, because there weren't jobs for
them.
Non-citizens didn't have access to the non-agricultural US job market, in
large part because of the power of US labor unions (before Reagan 25% of the
workforce was unionized; today the private workforce is about 7% unionized),
and because companies were unwilling to risk having non-tax-deductible labor
expenses on their books by hiring undocumented workers without valid Social
Security numbers.
But Reagan put an end to that. His 1986 amnesty program, combined with his
aggressive war on organized labor (begun in 1981), in effect told both
employers and non-citizens that there would be few penalties and many rewards
to increasing the US labor pool (and thus driving down wages) with
undocumented immigrants. A million people a year continued to come across our
southern border, but they stopped returning to Latin America every fall
because instead of seasonal work they were able to find permanent jobs.
The magnet drawing them? Illegal Employers.
Yet in the American media, Illegal Employers are almost never mentioned.
Lou Dobbs, the most visible media champion of this issue, always starts his
discussion of the issue with a basic syllogism - 1. Our border is porous. 2.
People are coming across our porous border and diluting our labor markets,
driving down US wages. 3. Therefore we must make the border less porous.
Lou's syllogism, however, ignores the real problem, the magnet drawing people
to risk life and limb to illegally enter this country - Illegal Employers. Our
borders have always been porous (and even with a "fence" will still allow
through "tourists" by the millions), but we've never had a problem like this
before.
And it's not just because poverty has increased in Mexico - today, about half
of Mexico lives on less than $2 a day, but 50 years ago half of Mexico also
lived on the equivalent of $2 today. Our trade and agricultural policies are
harmful to Mexican farmers (and must be changed!), but we were nearly as
predatory fifty years ago (remember the rubber and fruit companies,
particularly in Central America?).
Yet fifty years ago we didn't have an "illegal immigration" problem, because
back then we didn't have a conservative "Illegal Employer" problem.
As the Washington Post noted in an article by Hsu and Lydersen on June 19,
2006:
"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95
percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was
merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers
prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to
four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000,
according to federal statistics.
"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it
issued fine notices to three."
The hiring crimes of Illegal Employers are being ignored by the law, and
rewarded by the economic systems of the nation.
Proof that this simple reality is ignored in our media (much to the delight of
Republicans) is everywhere you look. For example, check out a series of
national polls on illegal immigration done over the past year at
www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm. A typical poll question is like this
one from an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted in June, 2006:
"When it comes to the immigration bill, the Senate and the House of
Representatives disagree with one another about what should be done on the
issue of illegal immigration.
"Many in the House of Representatives favor strengthening security at the
borders, including building a seven-hundred-mile fence along the border with
Mexico to help keep illegal immigrants from entering the United States, and
they favor deporting immigrants who are already in the United States
illegally.
"Many in the Senate favor strengthening security at the borders, including
building a three-hundred-and-seventy-mile fence along the border with Mexico
to help keep illegal immigrants from entering the United States, and they
favor a guest worker program to allow illegal immigrants who have jobs and who
have been here for more than two years to remain in the United States.
"Which of these approaches would you prefer?"
The question: "Or would you prefer companies that employ undocumented workers
be severely fined or put out of business?" wasn't even asked. The word
"employer" appears nowhere in any of the questions in that poll. Nor is it in
the CBS News immigration poll. Or in the Associated Press immigration poll. Or
in the Fox News immigration poll.
Only the CNN poll asked the question: "Would you favor increasing penalties
for employers who hire illegal immigrants?" Two-thirds of Americans, of all
party affiliations, said, "Yes," but it went virtually unreported in
mainstream media coverage.
"Illegal Immigration" is really about "Illegal Employers." As long as
Democrats argue it on the basis of "illegal immigration" they'll lose, even
when they're right. Instead, they need to be talking about "Illegal
Employers."
Politically, it's not a civil rights issue, it's a jobs issue, as working
Americans keep telling pollsters over and over again.
"Mass deportations" and "Fences" are hysterics and false choices. Start
penalizing "Illegal Employers" and non-citizens without a Social Security
number will leave the country on their own. And they won't have to confront
death trying to cross the desert back into Mexico - Mexican citizens can
simply walk back into Mexico across the border at any legal border crossing
(as about a million did every year for over a century).
Tax law requires that an employer must verify the Social Security number of
their employees in order to document, and thus deduct, the expense of their
labor. This is a simple task, and some companies, like AMC Theatres, are
already doing it.
For example, Cameron Barr wrote in The Washington Post on April 30, 2006,
that: "At one area multiplex owned by AMC, the Rio 18 in Gaithersburg, 11
employees 'decided to resign' this month after they could not rectify
discrepancies that arose during the screening, said Melanie Bell, a
spokeswoman for AMC Entertainment Inc., which is based in Kansas City, Mo. She
said such screening is a routine procedure that the company conducts across
the United States."
Not wanting to be an Illegal Employer, the Post noted that AMC "has long
submitted lists of its employees' Social Security numbers to the Social
Security Administration for review. If discrepancies arise, she [company
spokeswoman Bell] said in an e-mailed response to questions, 'we require the
worker to provide their original Social Security card within 3 days or to
immediately contact the local SSA office.' She said the process is part of
payroll tax verification and occurs after hiring."
Easy, simple, cheap, painless. No fence required. No mass deportations
necessary. No need for Homeland Security to get involved. When jobs are not
available, most undocumented workers will simply leave the country (as they
always did before), or begin the normal process to obtain citizenship that
millions (including my own sister-in-law - this hits many of us close to home)
go through each year.
Republicans, however, are not going to allow a discussion of "Illegal
Employers." Instead, they will continue to hammer the issue of "Illegal
Immigrants," and tie that political albatross around the necks of Democrats
(who seem all too willing to accept it).
Bob Casey, for example, was beating the pants off Rick Santorum in the
Pennsylvania senatorial campaign, until Santorum began running an ad that
says:
"Bobby Casey announced his support of a Senate bill that grants amnesty to
illegal immigrants, shocking hardworking taxpayers all across Pennsylvania.
Now Casey's trying to wiggle out of it by saying the bill doesn't offer
amnesty and requires illegal immigrants to pay their back taxes. Either Casey
didn't read the bill, or he's trying to deceive you. The Washington Times
reports the legislation gives amnesty to 11 million who are here illegally,
and paves the way for 66 million more immigrants to enter the country. The
bill also forgives two of the last five years of back taxes for illegal
immigrants, something the IRS would never do for you. This Casey-supported
bill even gives illegal aliens Social Security benefits for the time they were
here illegally. Fortunately, Rick Santorum voted against the bill, and Rick's
leading the fight to make sure it never becomes law. Now you know the
advantage of having in our corner a fighter like Rick Santorum."
Casey is still ahead, but the ad is visibly eroding his support. As George
Will pointed out in a June 18, 2006 op-ed titled "Calculating Immigration
Politics":
"Many Republicans, looking for any silver lining in an abundance of dark
clouds, think the immigration issue might be a silver bullet that will slay
their current vulnerability. The issue is, as political people say, a
'two-fer.' Opposition to the Senate bill, and support for the House bill, puts
Republican candidates where much of the country and most of their party's base
currently is -- approximately: 'Fix the border; then maybe we can talk about
other things.' And opposition to the Senate bill distances them from a
president who, although rebounding recently, has approval ratings below 40
percent in 29 states."
Now even Bush is talking like the Republicans in the House of Representatives
- time to "get tough" and give Halliburton a few hundred billion to build a
fence.
But still nobody is talking about the real problem here - the Illegal
Employers.
Hopefully one day soon a dialogue like this fictitious one may ensue on, for
example, Face The Nation:
[Bob Schieffer] Senator, do you really think the solution to the illegal
immigration problem in America is to offer amnesty instead of building a
fence?
[Senator Stabenow] Bob, I think you've been drinking some of Karl Rove's
Kool-Aid. Illegal immigrants aren't the cause of undocumented workers driving
down wages in this country. It's caused by Illegal Employers. We need to do
something about these corporate criminals.
[Bob Schieffer (baffled)] Illegal employers? But what about the illegal
aliens?
[Senator Stabenow] Bob, the aliens wouldn't be here if they didn't think they
could get a job. Of course, we need to clean up US agricultural subsidies and
trade policies that are causing human suffering in our neighboring countries,
but to truly protect the pay standards of workers here in the United States we
need to crack down on the Illegal Employers. They're the magnets that are
drawing people in from all over the world, many of whom come in as tourists
and then overstay because they get illegal jobs. And these Illegal Employers
are breaking the law - both immigration laws and IRS laws. I suggest that we
need to tighten up these laws against Illegal Employers, adding huge fines for
first offenses, jail time for CEOs for second offenses, and the corporate
death penalty - dissolve their charters to operate - for repeat offenders.
[Bob Schieffer (stammering)] The, the, er, did you say "corporate death
penalty"? You mean against companies?
[Senator Stabenow] Better companies die than human beings. These Illegal
Employers, in their quest for ever-cheaper labor, are drawing people to cross
our borders in ways that cause many people to die in the deserts of the
southwest. These people were executed, for all practical purposes, by the
policies of a few greedy and lawbreaking American companies. When companies
are repeat offenders, they should be dissolved, their assets sold to reimburse
their shareholders, and let other, more ethical companies pick up the slack.
We used to do this all the time in America when companies behaved badly. Up
until the 1880s, an average of around 2000 companies a year got the corporate
death sentence in the US.
[Bob Schieffer (bug-eyed)] But what about the illegal immigration problem?
[Senator Stabenow (patting Schieffer's hand)] It's okay, Bob. You shouldn't
listen so much to those Republicans. There isn't really much of an illegal
immigration problem - it's an Illegal Employer problem. When we clear up the
Illegal Employer problem in this country, we'll be back like we were before
Reagan started allowing employers to behave illegally. When non-citizens can't
get a job, most of them will go home, as they always have in the past. We
don't need a fence, we don't need amnesty, we don't need mass roundups or
deportations, and we for sure don't need guest workers. We have as many
unemployed citizens in this nation as there are illegal immigrants - in my
state of Michigan, for example, Flint and Detroit have massive unemployment
since Reagan and his corporate cronies declared war on working people. When we
get rid of Illegal Employers, that's one step in helping the job market
tighten up so that legal employers will have to pay a living wage to attract
legal citizens to work. That and rational labor and trade policies, and we can
begin to restore our middle class and put our cities back together.
[Bob Schieffer (nodding)] It makes sense, Senator. An "Illegal Employer
problem." Who would have thought of that?
[Senator Stabenow (smiling)] Well, Bob, the Republicans thought about it, back
in the 1980s. But they thought it was a good idea. Which is why we have this
mess today. Get rid of the Illegal Employers - toss a few CEOs into jail and
shut down the outlaw companies - and the rest of this part of the problem will
be easy and inexpensive to fix...
Thom Hartmann is a Project Censored Award-winning best-selling author, and
host of a nationally syndicated daily progressive talk show carried on the Air
America Radio network and Sirius. www.thomhartmann.com His most recent books
include "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight," "Unequal Protection," "We The
People: A Call To Take Back America," "What Would Jefferson Do?" and "Ultimate
Sacrifice." His next book, due out this autumn, is "Screwed: The Undeclared
War on the Middle Class and What We Can Do About It."
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30 Jul 2006 06:53:12 AM |
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In article <184pc2ln7c614pgarb5hplr5pe1e253p40@4ax.com>, says...
Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
LOL Who's the President? Who runs Congress?
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30 Jul 2006 07:16:04 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:53:12 -0700, Neocon Oil Cheerleaders <no@nospspam.com> wrote:
In article <184pc2ln7c614pgarb5hplr5pe1e253p40@4ax.com>, says...
Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
LOL Who's the President? Who runs Congress?
Corrupt people. Can't you read? That's what I said.
Why are you laughing? What part of "whole" do you not
understand?
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30 Jul 2006 09:12:08 AM |
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"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:rb8pc2h0kvcnffo8gfapjq4a2pobskd8vp@4ax.com...
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:53:12 -0700, Neocon Oil Cheerleaders
<no@nospspam.com> wrote:
In article <184pc2ln7c614pgarb5hplr5pe1e253p40@4ax.com>,
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com says...
Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
LOL Who's the President? Who runs Congress?
Corrupt people. Can't you read? That's what I said.
Why are you laughing? What part of "whole" do you not
understand?
I didn't know the Jews was living in Gov housings...put them in cattle cars
and send them back to israel
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30 Jul 2006 09:27:22 AM |
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http://www.co.washington.or.us/deptmts/hse_serv/meetneed.htm#serve
in washington county oregon - the most wealthy and republican
county- there is not only subsidized housing for illegal aliens -
millions of taxpayer money has been used to biuld complexes for migrant
workers who no longer work the fields but steal our jobs
look up Bonita villa apartments- they have spanish managers there and
its all illegal aliens- including drug dealers- americans wont live
there- yet in clackamas country thousands of americans are homeless
and living in their cars on county roads-
anything for the mexicans- and there are almost no americans doing
landscaping here anymore-
its pedro with his truck - not paying taxes and if he gets hurt he
goes to providence hospital and sticks you for the bill
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| User: "Neocon Oil Cheerleaders" |
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30 Jul 2006 10:41:06 AM |
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In article <rb8pc2h0kvcnffo8gfapjq4a2pobskd8vp@4ax.com>, says...
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:53:12 -0700, Neocon Oil Cheerleaders <no@nospspam.com> wrote:
In article <184pc2ln7c614pgarb5hplr5pe1e253p40@4ax.com>, says...
Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
LOL Who's the President? Who runs Congress?
Corrupt people. Can't you read? That's what I said.
Why are you laughing? What part of "whole" do you not
understand?
So you admit that so-called "conservatives" running the country are
ineffectual then.
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30 Jul 2006 11:10:00 AM |
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"Neocon Oil Cheerleaders" <no@nospspam.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f3672e74202af9f989d3d@newsgroups.comcast.net...
In article <rb8pc2h0kvcnffo8gfapjq4a2pobskd8vp@4ax.com>,
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com says...
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:53:12 -0700, Neocon Oil Cheerleaders
<no@nospspam.com> wrote:
In article <184pc2ln7c614pgarb5hplr5pe1e253p40@4ax.com>,
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com says...
Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
LOL Who's the President? Who runs Congress?
Corrupt people. Can't you read? That's what I said.
Why are you laughing? What part of "whole" do you not
understand?
So you admit that so-called "conservatives" running the country are
ineffectual then.
Our GOP leaders (who are not necessarily conservative) are far from perfect,
but prove to us how your liberal Democrat buddies would be any tougher on
illegal immigration.
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| User: "Neocon Oil Cheerleaders" |
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| Title: Re: Why Are Illegal Aliens Livng in Government Subsidized Housing? |
30 Jul 2006 01:32:48 PM |
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In article <9bbf2$44ccd9a5$45035f0d$8609@msgid.meganewsservers.com>, says...
"Neocon Oil Cheerleaders" <no@nospspam.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f3672e74202af9f989d3d@newsgroups.comcast.net...
In article <rb8pc2h0kvcnffo8gfapjq4a2pobskd8vp@4ax.com>,
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com says...
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:53:12 -0700, Neocon Oil Cheerleaders
<no@nospspam.com> wrote:
In article <184pc2ln7c614pgarb5hplr5pe1e253p40@4ax.com>,
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com says...
Because it makes the liberals (ideational terrorists) feel
good. The whole embodied government is corrupt.
The illegal aliens know how to make use of this sort of
situation better than the legals.
LOL Who's the President? Who runs Congress?
Corrupt people. Can't you read? That's what I said.
Why are you laughing? What part of "whole" do you not
understand?
So you admit that so-called "conservatives" running the country are
ineffectual then.
Our GOP leaders (who are not necessarily conservative) are far from perfect,
but prove to us how your liberal Democrat buddies would be any tougher on
illegal immigration.
Kerry supported adding 2000 more Border Patrol agents per year for
5 years for a total of 10,000 more agents as recommended by the
9/11 Commission. Bush underfunded the Border Patrol and wanted 210
more agents.
http://tinyurl.com/5jd26
But the thread was about illegals living in government subsidized
housing.
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| User: "SarcasticInk.com" |
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| Title: Re: Why Are Illegal Aliens Livng in Government Subsidized Housing? |
30 Jul 2006 07:00:29 PM |
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This attitude of ENTITLEMENT and HOSTILITY is the norm in California.
And God help anyone who stands in the way of their 'rights'. First,
you will be called names like 'racist'. If you do not shrink in fear,
the next escalation is intimidation. Like marching with foreign flags,
screaming and threatening anyone who gets in their way. - Do a search
on speeches made by LA Mayor, California Speaker of the House, etc.
Then, like all bullies, there will be violence; like the employer who
was beaten for firing an illegal. I predict they will drive that poor
American out in a month.
THIS IS WHY ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ISN'T JUST A FEDERAL ISSUE. I hope she
has reported this to the building owner and the police. If she has,
unfortunately they won't do anything - because god forbid - they too
would be called names. She is after all, the wrong race AND a citizen
- she's screwed! And if she calls her local elected officials they
will tell her it's a federal issue. Will the local press take up her
story? No. She's the wrong race. Again, god forbid the press should
show anything but 'good hardworking' immigrants. Here, illegals have
become 'more equal' than citizens. For other states, think of
California as a cautionary tale.
While your blood is boiling, call ALL your elected officials and remind
them you will be voting NO AMNESTY in November! Here's a link to help
you find ALL elected officials for your area:
http://www.firstgov.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
CALLING ME A RACIST WON'T GET YOU AMNESTY
visit SarcasticInk.com for more late-breaking sarcasm
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