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Middle East
Feb 7, 2006
Why can't Muslims take a joke?
By Spengler
Religious humor has become commonplace in the secular
West, but it came with a price.
More than any people on Earth, the Danes should know the
terrible price of religious humor, for the first great Christian humorist
arose from their dour midst as if by immaculate conception. "Humor is
intrinsic to Christianity," wrote Soren Kierkegaard, because "truth is
hidden in mystery". But Kierkegaard the humorist was sent to the Danes after
the Enlightenment had laid waste to Christianity, that is, after the French
revolutionary army had conquered traditional Europe. He wielded humor out
of desperation, after Denmark already had started down its long slide toward
secularism.
Like Professor Higgins in My Fair Lady, muses the secular
West after the Danish cartoon catastrophe, "Why can't a Muslim be more like
a Jew?" After all, Arab newspapers daily publish hideous caricatures of
Jews, who do not burn down Arab embassies in response. But the Jews learned
to swallow humiliation at a dreadful cost. When Rome defiled their temple at
Jerusalem in AD 66, the Jews rebelled. Rome crushed them, but they rose
again in AD 132, fighting more Roman legions under Hadrian than had
conquered Britain. After most Jews were dead or exiled, the remnant invented
self-deprecating humor. [1]
Deprecatory cartoons of Jesus would have earned you the
dungeon or the stake during most of Christianity's 2,000-year history.
Britain still has not abolished the Blasphemous Libel Law against mockery of
the Church of England, although the last Englishman punished for blasphemy
was a certain William Gott, who received nine months' imprisonment in 1922
for comparing Jesus to a circus clown.
"To hell with them if they can't take a joke!"
artillerymen say after one of their shells kills their own comrades. Mockery
cuts a swath of destruction through traditional society, which, experience
tells us, often dies hard - by the hand of a Hadrian, or a Napoleon. The
Jyllens-Posten cartoon affair is even worse than it looks. The Mohammed
cartoons are tame compared with other topics that the mainstream media
avoid. The cartoon controversy barely qualifies as a skirmish in a greater
war.
With freedom of choice and access to information come
doubt. Western scholars doubt whether Mohammed ever existed [2] or, if he
existed, whether the Koran was invented two centuries after his death, or
indeed whether the Koran even was written in Arabic. Christianity and
Judaism are bloodied - indeed, drained almost dry - by nearly two centuries
of scriptural criticism; Islam's turn barely has begun.
More revealing than the refusal of the mainstream American
media to repost the Mohammed cartoons is the disappearance of more dangerous
material previously available. Newsweek's "Challenging the Koran" story of
July 28, 2003, has vanished from the magazine's website. The government of
Pakistan had banned that issue, which among other things reported a German
philologist's contention that the Koran was written in Syriac rather than
classical Arabic, translating the "virgins" of Paradise as "raisins". As I
observed before, the topic of Koranic criticism has disappeared from the
mainstream media. Since the suppression of the Newsweek story the Western
media have steered clear of the subject.
It is well and good for Western newspapers to republish
the Mohammed cartoons in solidarity with Jyllens-Posten. But not one major
news outlet has reported the most controversial religion story of the year,
the debate among the pope and his advisers about whether and to what extent
Islam is capable of reform (see When even the pope has to whisper, January
10). Close friends accused me of endangering the life of Pope Benedict XVI
by publishing a report already available on the Internet. If it is true that
the pope cannot speak to the subject for fear of assassination, then he is a
prisoner in the Vatican as much as was the unfortunate wartime pope Pius
XII.
Muslims rage at affronts to their faith because the modern
world puts their faith at risk, precisely as modern Islamists contend. [3]
That is not a Muslim problem as such, for all faith is challenged as
traditional society gives ground to globalization. But Muslim countries,
whose traditional life shows a literacy rate of only 60%, face a century of
religious deracination. Christianity and Judaism barely have adapted to the
modern world; the Islamists believe with good reason that Islam cannot
co-exist with modernism and propose to shut it out altogether.
Doubt has all but killed Christian and Jewish faith,
despite the efforts of the theologians to tame it. Doubt is indispensable to
faith, wrote Pope Benedict in 1967 when he was the young theologian Joseph
Ratzinger: "It is the basic pattern of man's destiny only to be allowed to
find the finality of his existence in this unceasing rivalry between doubt
and belief, temptation and certainty." The Gates of Hell, however, have won
more rounds than St Peter. As Cardinal Avery Dulles told Paul Elie of
Atlantic Monthly in January:
The breakdown of traditional societies and the
indifference of modern people to religious faith have left us with a burden
of re-evangelization ... Germany and the Low Countries give us no reason to
be optimistic. Quebec is a desert. Ireland is very nearly lost to prosperity
.... With [American] society's freedom of choice come our selfishness and
competition, which are now being exported all over the world. We are not
immune to the forces of secularization that are being felt in Europe. Is the
Christian residue in America strong enough to resist them? I worry that it
is not.
With stable institutions and material wealth, the secular
West evinces a slow decline. Not so the Muslim world, where loss of faith
implies sudden deracination and ruin. In the space of a generation, Islam
must make an adjustment that Christianity made with great difficulty over
half a millennium. Both for theological and social reasons, it is unequipped
to do so. Muslims might as well fight over a cartoon now; they have very
little to lose.
Throughout the world, literacy erodes traditional society,
and the collapse of traditional society leads to declining population growth
rates. But in the Muslim world these trends hit like a shock wave. Both the
traditional life of Muslims as well as Muslim theology have been frozen in
time, such that Muslims are repeating in compressed time trends long at work
in the West. The result is devastating.
Most members of religious groups adhere to their beliefs
because they were born into a faith and learned no other way to live.
Traditional society admits of no heresy or atheism because religion governs
the socialization of individuals. Once a traditional people has the
opportunity to choose its beliefs, however, the result most often is a
sudden fall-off in religious practice. We observe a close statistical
relationship between literacy and the percentage of non-religious people in
a population in the cross-section of countries.
Once the literacy rate reaches 90%, the percentage of
non-religious jumps into two digits. That is as true for Muslim countries as
well as for non-Muslim countries. Because the Muslim literacy rate is so far
below the average, though, few Muslim countries have a high proportion of
non-religious people.
Globally, we discern a clear link among literacy,
secularism, and birth rates; the high birth rates of traditional society
fall sharply with greater literacy and weaker religious belief. In the
non-Muslim world (Exhibit 2), literacy alone explains 46% of variation in
population growth.
In the Muslim world, however, the link between rising
literacy and falling population growth is much more pronounced. In the
Muslim world (Exhibit 3), variation in literacy explains nearly 60% of the
variation in population growth, not a surprising result considering that the
Muslim world begins with extremely high population growth and extremely low
literacy rates.
Of all the large Muslim countries, Iran is most at risk,
with a literacy rate of 71% and a population growth rate of 1.3%, projected
to decline to zero within a generation. I have elaborated elsewhere on the
devastating implications of a large population of dependent aged for a poor
country (Demographics and Iran's imperial design, September 13, 2005). These
considerations prompted me to predict early on that Iranian President Mahmud
Ahmadinejad no more would shrink from confrontation with the West than did
Adolf Hitler. But the rest of the Muslim world faces the same pressures.
The global relationship among literacy rates,
secularization and population growth makes clear that the fragility of
Muslim traditional society is not a Muslim problem as such. But the Muslim
world is far more vulnerable than the numbers suggest, for two reasons. The
first reason is chronological, and the second is theological.
It is not a good thing to come late to the table of
globalization. China and its neighbors have emerged from the maelstrom of
revolution and the violent loss of tens of millions of lives to become
actors on the world economic stage. Of China's 1.3 billion people, 400
million are integrated into the world division of labor, and millions more
are becoming urbanized, literate and productive by the year. India remains
behind China but has good prospects for success. Against these formidable
competitors, few countries in Western Asia, Africa or Latin America can hope
to prevail. In a world that has little need of subsistence farmers and even
less need of university graduates with degrees in Islamic philosophy, most
of the Muslim world can expect small mercy from the market.
The theological problem I have discussed in other
locations, most recently in reporting the pope's seminar at Castelgandolfo.
Christianity and Judaism have adapted to doubt, the bacillus of modern
thought, by inviting doubt to serve as the handmaiden of faith. No better
formulation of this can be found than in Benedict XVI's classic Introduction
to Christianity. The object of revelation, the believer, becomes a
participant in revelation, in dialogue with the Revealer. This great
innovation has not prevented the death of traditional, autonomic Christian
belief, but it has left an enduring core of Christian faith in the West well
inoculated against skepticism. As the pope explained, the eternal,
unchanging character of the Koran that the Archangel Gabriel dictated
verbatim to Mohammed admits of no doubt. Muslim belief is not dialogue, but
submission. It is as defenseless before the bacillus of skepticism as the
American aboriginals were before the smallpox virus.
That is why Muslims cannot respond to Western jibes at the
person of their Prophet except as they did to the Jyllens-Posten cartoons. I
do not sympathize with scoffers but, like Benedict, I see doubt as an
adversary to be won over, rather than as an enemy to be extirpated. I would
not have drawn nor published these cartoons, but when the lines are drawn, I
stand with Western freedom against traditional authority. I write these
lines over a Carlsberg and shall drink no other lager until the boycott of
Danish product ends.
Notes
1. On February 2 fell the 150th death anniversary of the
greatest of Jewish humorists, the poet Heinrich Heine. Heine knew that
Jewish humor was a salve, not a cure, for humiliation. In a poem called "To
Edom", using the rabbis' ancient derogatory term for the Christian world,
Heine remonstrated that Christians and Jews "tolerate each other
fraternally. I tolerate your rages, and you tolerate my breathing." He also
wrote (as translated by Aaron Kramer):
"And the tears flow on forever
Southward in silent ranks
They flow to the Jordan river
And overrun the banks."
2. See for example Crossroads to Islam, by Yehuda Nevo and
Judith Koren (Prometheus Books: New York 2003).
3. See Crisis of Faith in the Muslim World Part 2: The
Islamist response, November 8, 2005.
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21 Mar 2006 06:32:52 PM |
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It doesn't take long to figure out what groups can be insulted and
what groups for which this is taboo. They made a movie called "Legally
Blonde", which of course I did not see. It's well known that you can
joke about blondes anywhere and it is accepted and you don't get
fired. If you joke about Blacks you do get fired. Blondes are fair
game because they are White and probably not Jews. Jews control the
media and the entire culture. Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Thus another weapon beside that of freemasonry would have to be
secured. This was the Press. The Jew exercised all his skill and
tenacity in getting hold of it. By means of the Press he began
gradually to control public life in its entirety."
Women can only be insulted if they are blonde. It's actually White
men that the Jews really hate. In their show "Simpsons" they regularly
show all the men as stupid and all the women as smart. This is also
the Jewish show that said the French were "Cheese eating surrender
monkeys", for not going along with the Jews agenda. What if there was
a show calling Jews "money grubbing culture corrupters"? Of course
that would never be on TV. "Beavis and Butthead" are of course White
men.
The Jews also hate Arabs. They want to steal Arab land of course.
But they also hate people who are against the homosexual perverts and
the feminists. Look at any film of the Jews country and see how many
female policemen they have. Arabs are the opposite of Jews. Maybe they
are too extreme on the opposite direction. But they have traditional
values that the USA and other liberal, Jewish controlled countries
don't have. The spokesmen for the so-called "right" in America are
Rush Limbaugh, who is probably a Jew, (He once said on his show he
and his Jewish rabbi--Rush used the words, "My rabbi"- had traveled to
Israel and met there privately with former Israeli Prime Minister
Shimon Peres.) and other Jewish neo-cons. The TV can then truthfully
declare that they are unbiased and they appear neutral and fair
between the Republicans and the Democrats, since they are both firmly
in the Jewish play pen and are not likely to wonder out.
This quote explains what is going on in the Middle East:
Der Stürmer, #23/1944, What is Americanism
"The family ties between hundreds of thousands of German families and
their American relatives led many to think that America would never
join a second war against Germany. Now that that has happened, many
Germans still believe that America will never allow Bolshevism to
conquer and destroy Germany. Recent events have proven how false and
dangerous this idea is. One has to be foolish or irredeemably stupid
to believe that anything good can come to Europe from the land of
presumed opportunity. That that did not happen after the First World
War, and will not happen after the second. The Jews have made America
what it is today: a nation raped by the Jews , a nation whose
130,000,000 people of many colors and races have been forced into
helping the Jews achieve world domination!"
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
--
NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
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26 Mar 2006 01:07:24 PM |
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Topaz said:
Women can only be insulted if they are blonde. It's actually White men that the Jews really hate. In their show "Simpsons" they regularly show all the men as stupid and all the women as smart. <
Matt Groenig isn't Jewish. If I had to guess at his family derivation,
I'd imagine North German, probably Lutheran Protestant, based on the
fact that he modelled the Simpsons and Springfield after his own family
and childhood.
Oh, by the way, we love the _shiksas_ :D
The spokesmen for the so-called "right" in America are Rush Limbaugh, who is probably a Jew,
ROFLMAO!!!
(He once said on his show he and his Jewish rabbi--Rush used the words, "My rabbi"- had traveled to Israel and met there privately with former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres.) and other Jewish neo-cons. <
Why can't a non-Jew have a Jewish rabbi?
(FYI, "rabbi" means "teacher," in the religious sense of education).
SIncerely Yours,
Jordan
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20 Mar 2006 02:31:40 PM |
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"JP" <jp@private.nospam> wrote in message
news:kSBTf.15329$S25.14294@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HB07Ak02.html
Middle East
Feb 7, 2006
Why can't Muslims take a joke?
By Spengler
Religious humor has become commonplace in the secular
West, but it came with a price.
More than any people on Earth, the Danes should know the
terrible price of religious humor, for the first great Christian humorist
arose from their dour midst as if by immaculate conception. "Humor is
intrinsic to Christianity," wrote Soren Kierkegaard, because "truth is
hidden in mystery". But Kierkegaard the humorist was sent to the Danes
after
the Enlightenment had laid waste to Christianity, that is, after the
French
revolutionary army had conquered traditional Europe. He wielded humor out
of desperation, after Denmark already had started down its long slide
toward
secularism.
<snip>
Islamic culture has been frozen in time. From about the
14th century, give or take, there have been no
advancements in science, the arts, astronomy, mathematics, literature,
exploration, architecture or other fields to match the earlier
accomplishments (e.g. the concept of zero and the system of numbers in
almost universal use today) that come to mind for me. Where are the Nobel
prizes? All that we can see today are images of Madrassas where dirty, flea
scratching savages are brainwashed by studying nothing but the Koran as
interpreted by the hate mongers.
Islam and the vast majority of its followers remain frozen in time.
When Islam and Muslims thought they were better than other religions and
their
followers, Muslims became too arrogant, too proud and too convinced that
they were invincible; so, they isolated themselves from outside World for
many centuries totally convinced that outsiders did not have anything
better to learn from.
Also various oppressive rulers, they were under for centuries,
had ruled them with very strict centralized authority with very little or
no freedoms at all. This did not allow individual persons or groups
to improve themselves either. Look all the underdeveloped countries
today. Almost every one of them, if not all of them, have been ruled by
strict central authoritarian rulers with no civil liberties, and some of
them are still being ruled that way.
So the whole Muslim World missed the entire enlightenment era when the
Christian Europe reformed and renewed itself and established the
foundations of their advancements in science, technology, arts and freed
themselves from the medieval dogmas and values. Most, if not all, Muslims
today still do not have anything to do with the science, technology and
arts of the West and cannot reform and renew themselves and institutions
and free themselves from the medieval darkness. Because, most Muslims
nations are ruled the same way as before.
When Muslim World isolated itself from outside World, they also isolated
the East and the West from each other since Muslim World is in between
the two. The Muslim World also isolated the sub-Saharan Africa from
the West because Muslim for centuries ruled Northern Africa. This is also
a big contributing factor for the East's and Africa's backwardness today.
--
"I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my friends
respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please."
John Wayne
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20 Mar 2006 03:17:55 PM |
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I am not a Psychologist.
Based what is written in the Koran and explained in these sites etc, it
seems, that young boys are an important aspect in this strange religion.
Could it be, that pedophile trauma experienced by the young victims of what
we call child abuse leads to more aggressive behaviour later in life?
There got to be an explanation on this bottled up anger with takes only a
minor trigger to set off.
I am glad I am not a Muslim woman, Praise the Lord!
"JP" <jp@private.nospam> wrote in message
news:kSBTf.15329$S25.14294@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HB07Ak02.html
Middle East
Feb 7, 2006
Why can't Muslims take a joke?
By Spengler
Religious humor has become commonplace in the secular
West, but it came with a price.
More than any people on Earth, the Danes should know the
terrible price of religious humor, for the first great Christian humorist
arose from their dour midst as if by immaculate conception. "Humor is
intrinsic to Christianity," wrote Soren Kierkegaard, because "truth is
hidden in mystery". But Kierkegaard the humorist was sent to the Danes
after
the Enlightenment had laid waste to Christianity, that is, after the
French
revolutionary army had conquered traditional Europe. He wielded humor out
of desperation, after Denmark already had started down its long slide
toward
secularism.
Like Professor Higgins in My Fair Lady, muses the secular
West after the Danish cartoon catastrophe, "Why can't a Muslim be more
like
a Jew?" After all, Arab newspapers daily publish hideous caricatures of
Jews, who do not burn down Arab embassies in response. But the Jews
learned
to swallow humiliation at a dreadful cost. When Rome defiled their temple
at
Jerusalem in AD 66, the Jews rebelled. Rome crushed them, but they rose
again in AD 132, fighting more Roman legions under Hadrian than had
conquered Britain. After most Jews were dead or exiled, the remnant
invented
self-deprecating humor. [1]
Deprecatory cartoons of Jesus would have earned you the
dungeon or the stake during most of Christianity's 2,000-year history.
Britain still has not abolished the Blasphemous Libel Law against mockery
of
the Church of England, although the last Englishman punished for blasphemy
was a certain William Gott, who received nine months' imprisonment in 1922
for comparing Jesus to a circus clown.
"To hell with them if they can't take a joke!"
artillerymen say after one of their shells kills their own comrades.
Mockery
cuts a swath of destruction through traditional society, which, experience
tells us, often dies hard - by the hand of a Hadrian, or a Napoleon. The
Jyllens-Posten cartoon affair is even worse than it looks. The Mohammed
cartoons are tame compared with other topics that the mainstream media
avoid. The cartoon controversy barely qualifies as a skirmish in a greater
war.
With freedom of choice and access to information come
doubt. Western scholars doubt whether Mohammed ever existed [2] or, if he
existed, whether the Koran was invented two centuries after his death, or
indeed whether the Koran even was written in Arabic. Christianity and
Judaism are bloodied - indeed, drained almost dry - by nearly two
centuries
of scriptural criticism; Islam's turn barely has begun.
More revealing than the refusal of the mainstream
American
media to repost the Mohammed cartoons is the disappearance of more
dangerous
material previously available. Newsweek's "Challenging the Koran" story of
July 28, 2003, has vanished from the magazine's website. The government of
Pakistan had banned that issue, which among other things reported a German
philologist's contention that the Koran was written in Syriac rather than
classical Arabic, translating the "virgins" of Paradise as "raisins". As I
observed before, the topic of Koranic criticism has disappeared from the
mainstream media. Since the suppression of the Newsweek story the Western
media have steered clear of the subject.
It is well and good for Western newspapers to republish
the Mohammed cartoons in solidarity with Jyllens-Posten. But not one major
news outlet has reported the most controversial religion story of the
year,
the debate among the pope and his advisers about whether and to what
extent
Islam is capable of reform (see When even the pope has to whisper, January
10). Close friends accused me of endangering the life of Pope Benedict XVI
by publishing a report already available on the Internet. If it is true
that
the pope cannot speak to the subject for fear of assassination, then he is
a
prisoner in the Vatican as much as was the unfortunate wartime pope Pius
XII.
Muslims rage at affronts to their faith because the
modern
world puts their faith at risk, precisely as modern Islamists contend. [3]
That is not a Muslim problem as such, for all faith is challenged as
traditional society gives ground to globalization. But Muslim countries,
whose traditional life shows a literacy rate of only 60%, face a century
of
religious deracination. Christianity and Judaism barely have adapted to
the
modern world; the Islamists believe with good reason that Islam cannot
co-exist with modernism and propose to shut it out altogether.
Doubt has all but killed Christian and Jewish faith,
despite the efforts of the theologians to tame it. Doubt is indispensable
to
faith, wrote Pope Benedict in 1967 when he was the young theologian Joseph
Ratzinger: "It is the basic pattern of man's destiny only to be allowed to
find the finality of his existence in this unceasing rivalry between doubt
and belief, temptation and certainty." The Gates of Hell, however, have
won
more rounds than St Peter. As Cardinal Avery Dulles told Paul Elie of
Atlantic Monthly in January:
The breakdown of traditional societies and the
indifference of modern people to religious faith have left us with a
burden
of re-evangelization ... Germany and the Low Countries give us no reason
to
be optimistic. Quebec is a desert. Ireland is very nearly lost to
prosperity
... With [American] society's freedom of choice come our selfishness and
competition, which are now being exported all over the world. We are not
immune to the forces of secularization that are being felt in Europe. Is
the
Christian residue in America strong enough to resist them? I worry that it
is not.
With stable institutions and material wealth, the secular
West evinces a slow decline. Not so the Muslim world, where loss of faith
implies sudden deracination and ruin. In the space of a generation, Islam
must make an adjustment that Christianity made with great difficulty over
half a millennium. Both for theological and social reasons, it is
unequipped
to do so. Muslims might as well fight over a cartoon now; they have very
little to lose.
Throughout the world, literacy erodes traditional
society,
and the collapse of traditional society leads to declining population
growth
rates. But in the Muslim world these trends hit like a shock wave. Both
the
traditional life of Muslims as well as Muslim theology have been frozen in
time, such that Muslims are repeating in compressed time trends long at
work
in the West. The result is devastating.
Most members of religious groups adhere to their beliefs
because they were born into a faith and learned no other way to live.
Traditional society admits of no heresy or atheism because religion
governs
the socialization of individuals. Once a traditional people has the
opportunity to choose its beliefs, however, the result most often is a
sudden fall-off in religious practice. We observe a close statistical
relationship between literacy and the percentage of non-religious people
in
a population in the cross-section of countries.
Once the literacy rate reaches 90%, the percentage of
non-religious jumps into two digits. That is as true for Muslim countries
as
well as for non-Muslim countries. Because the Muslim literacy rate is so
far
below the average, though, few Muslim countries have a high proportion of
non-religious people.
Globally, we discern a clear link among literacy,
secularism, and birth rates; the high birth rates of traditional society
fall sharply with greater literacy and weaker religious belief. In the
non-Muslim world (Exhibit 2), literacy alone explains 46% of variation in
population growth.
In the Muslim world, however, the link between rising
literacy and falling population growth is much more pronounced. In the
Muslim world (Exhibit 3), variation in literacy explains nearly 60% of the
variation in population growth, not a surprising result considering that
the
Muslim world begins with extremely high population growth and extremely
low
literacy rates.
Of all the large Muslim countries, Iran is most at risk,
with a literacy rate of 71% and a population growth rate of 1.3%,
projected
to decline to zero within a generation. I have elaborated elsewhere on the
devastating implications of a large population of dependent aged for a
poor
country (Demographics and Iran's imperial design, September 13, 2005).
These
considerations prompted me to predict early on that Iranian President
Mahmud
Ahmadinejad no more would shrink from confrontation with the West than did
Adolf Hitler. But the rest of the Muslim world faces the same pressures.
The global relationship among literacy rates,
secularization and population growth makes clear that the fragility of
Muslim traditional society is not a Muslim problem as such. But the Muslim
world is far more vulnerable than the numbers suggest, for two reasons.
The
first reason is chronological, and the second is theological.
It is not a good thing to come late to the table of
globalization. China and its neighbors have emerged from the maelstrom of
revolution and the violent loss of tens of millions of lives to become
actors on the world economic stage. Of China's 1.3 billion people, 400
million are integrated into the world division of labor, and millions more
are becoming urbanized, literate and productive by the year. India remains
behind China but has good prospects for success. Against these formidable
competitors, few countries in Western Asia, Africa or Latin America can
hope
to prevail. In a world that has little need of subsistence farmers and
even
less need of university graduates with degrees in Islamic philosophy, most
of the Muslim world can expect small mercy from the market.
The theological problem I have discussed in other
locations, most recently in reporting the pope's seminar at
Castelgandolfo.
Christianity and Judaism have adapted to doubt, the bacillus of modern
thought, by inviting doubt to serve as the handmaiden of faith. No better
formulation of this can be found than in Benedict XVI's classic
Introduction
to Christianity. The object of revelation, the believer, becomes a
participant in revelation, in dialogue with the Revealer. This great
innovation has not prevented the death of traditional, autonomic Christian
belief, but it has left an enduring core of Christian faith in the West
well
inoculated against skepticism. As the pope explained, the eternal,
unchanging character of the Koran that the Archangel Gabriel dictated
verbatim to Mohammed admits of no doubt. Muslim belief is not dialogue,
but
submission. It is as defenseless before the bacillus of skepticism as the
American aboriginals were before the smallpox virus.
That is why Muslims cannot respond to Western jibes at
the
person of their Prophet except as they did to the Jyllens-Posten cartoons.
I
do not sympathize with scoffers but, like Benedict, I see doubt as an
adversary to be won over, rather than as an enemy to be extirpated. I
would
not have drawn nor published these cartoons, but when the lines are drawn,
I
stand with Western freedom against traditional authority. I write these
lines over a Carlsberg and shall drink no other lager until the boycott of
Danish product ends.
Notes
1. On February 2 fell the 150th death anniversary of the
greatest of Jewish humorists, the poet Heinrich Heine. Heine knew that
Jewish humor was a salve, not a cure, for humiliation. In a poem called
"To
Edom", using the rabbis' ancient derogatory term for the Christian world,
Heine remonstrated that Christians and Jews "tolerate each other
fraternally. I tolerate your rages, and you tolerate my breathing." He
also
wrote (as translated by Aaron Kramer):
"And the tears flow on forever
Southward in silent ranks
They flow to the Jordan river
And overrun the banks."
2. See for example Crossroads to Islam, by Yehuda Nevo
and
Judith Koren (Prometheus Books: New York 2003).
3. See Crisis of Faith in the Muslim World Part 2: The
Islamist response, November 8, 2005.
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Middle East
Feb 7, 2006
Why can't Muslims take a joke?
By Spengler
Religious humor has become commonplace in the secular
West, but it came with a price.
More than any people on Earth, the Danes should know the
terrible price of religious humor, for the first great Christian humorist
arose from their dour midst as if by immaculate conception. "Humor is
intrinsic to Christianity," wrote Soren Kierkegaard, because "truth is
hidden in mystery". But Kierkegaard the humorist was sent to the Danes
after
the Enlightenment had laid waste to Christianity, that is, after the French
revolutionary army had conquered traditional Europe. He wielded humor out
of desperation, after Denmark already had started down its long slide
toward
secularism.
Like Professor Higgins in My Fair Lady, muses the secular
West after the Danish cartoon catastrophe, "Why can't a Muslim be more like
a Jew?" After all, Arab newspapers daily publish hideous caricatures of
Jews, who do not burn down Arab embassies in response. But the Jews learned
to swallow humiliation at a dreadful cost. When Rome defiled their
temple at
Jerusalem in AD 66, the Jews rebelled. Rome crushed them, but they rose
again in AD 132, fighting more Roman legions under Hadrian than had
conquered Britain. After most Jews were dead or exiled, the remnant
invented
self-deprecating humor. [1]
Deprecatory cartoons of Jesus would have earned you the
dungeon or the stake during most of Christianity's 2,000-year history.
Britain still has not abolished the Blasphemous Libel Law against
mockery of
the Church of England, although the last Englishman punished for blasphemy
was a certain William Gott, who received nine months' imprisonment in 1922
for comparing Jesus to a circus clown.
"To hell with them if they can't take a joke!"
artillerymen say after one of their shells kills their own comrades.
Mockery
cuts a swath of destruction through traditional society, which, experience
tells us, often dies hard - by the hand of a Hadrian, or a Napoleon. The
Jyllens-Posten cartoon affair is even worse than it looks. The Mohammed
cartoons are tame compared with other topics that the mainstream media
avoid. The cartoon controversy barely qualifies as a skirmish in a greater
war.
With freedom of choice and access to information come
doubt. Western scholars doubt whether Mohammed ever existed [2] or, if he
existed, whether the Koran was invented two centuries after his death, or
indeed whether the Koran even was written in Arabic. Christianity and
Judaism are bloodied - indeed, drained almost dry - by nearly two centuries
of scriptural criticism; Islam's turn barely has begun.
More revealing than the refusal of the mainstream American
media to repost the Mohammed cartoons is the disappearance of more
dangerous
material previously available. Newsweek's "Challenging the Koran" story of
July 28, 2003, has vanished from the magazine's website. The government of
Pakistan had banned that issue, which among other things reported a German
philologist's contention that the Koran was written in Syriac rather than
classical Arabic, translating the "virgins" of Paradise as "raisins". As I
observed before, the topic of Koranic criticism has disappeared from the
mainstream media. Since the suppression of the Newsweek story the Western
media have steered clear of the subject.
It is well and good for Western newspapers to republish
the Mohammed cartoons in solidarity with Jyllens-Posten. But not one major
news outlet has reported the most controversial religion story of the year,
the debate among the pope and his advisers about whether and to what extent
Islam is capable of reform (see When even the pope has to whisper, January
10). Close friends accused me of endangering the life of Pope Benedict XVI
by publishing a report already available on the Internet. If it is true
that
the pope cannot speak to the subject for fear of assassination, then he
is a
prisoner in the Vatican as much as was the unfortunate wartime pope Pius
XII.
Muslims rage at affronts to their faith because the modern
world puts their faith at risk, precisely as modern Islamists contend. [3]
That is not a Muslim problem as such, for all faith is challenged as
traditional society gives ground to globalization. But Muslim countries,
whose traditional life shows a literacy rate of only 60%, face a century of
religious deracination. Christianity and Judaism barely have adapted to the
modern world; the Islamists believe with good reason that Islam cannot
co-exist with modernism and propose to shut it out altogether.
Doubt has all but killed Christian and Jewish faith,
despite the efforts of the theologians to tame it. Doubt is
indispensable to
faith, wrote Pope Benedict in 1967 when he was the young theologian Joseph
Ratzinger: "It is the basic pattern of man's destiny only to be allowed to
find the finality of his existence in this unceasing rivalry between doubt
and belief, temptation and certainty." The Gates of Hell, however, have won
more rounds than St Peter. As Cardinal Avery Dulles told Paul Elie of
Atlantic Monthly in January:
The breakdown of traditional societies and the
indifference of modern people to religious faith have left us with a burden
of re-evangelization ... Germany and the Low Countries give us no reason to
be optimistic. Quebec is a desert. Ireland is very nearly lost to
prosperity
... With [American] society's freedom of choice come our selfishness and
competition, which are now being exported all over the world. We are not
immune to the forces of secularization that are being felt in Europe. Is
the
Christian residue in America strong enough to resist them? I worry that it
is not.
With stable institutions and material wealth, the secular
West evinces a slow decline. Not so the Muslim world, where loss of faith
implies sudden deracination and ruin. In the space of a generation, Islam
must make an adjustment that Christianity made with great difficulty over
half a millennium. Both for theological and social reasons, it is
unequipped
to do so. Muslims might as well fight over a cartoon now; they have very
little to lose.
Throughout the world, literacy erodes traditional society,
and the collapse of traditional society leads to declining population
growth
rates. But in the Muslim world these trends hit like a shock wave. Both the
traditional life of Muslims as well as Muslim theology have been frozen in
time, such that Muslims are repeating in compressed time trends long at
work
in the West. The result is devastating.
Most members of religious groups adhere to their beliefs
because they were born into a faith and learned no other way to live.
Traditional society admits of no heresy or atheism because religion governs
the socialization of individuals. Once a traditional people has the
opportunity to choose its beliefs, however, the result most often is a
sudden fall-off in religious practice. We observe a close statistical
relationship between literacy and the percentage of non-religious people in
a population in the cross-section of countries.
Once the literacy rate reaches 90%, the percentage of
non-religious jumps into two digits. That is as true for Muslim
countries as
well as for non-Muslim countries. Because the Muslim literacy rate is so
far
below the average, though, few Muslim countries have a high proportion of
non-religious people.
Globally, we discern a clear link among literacy,
secularism, and birth rates; the high birth rates of traditional society
fall sharply with greater literacy and weaker religious belief. In the
non-Muslim world (Exhibit 2), literacy alone explains 46% of variation in
population growth.
In the Muslim world, however, the link between rising
literacy and falling population growth is much more pronounced. In the
Muslim world (Exhibit 3), variation in literacy explains nearly 60% of the
variation in population growth, not a surprising result considering that
the
Muslim world begins with extremely high population growth and extremely low
literacy rates.
Of all the large Muslim countries, Iran is most at risk,
with a literacy rate of 71% and a population growth rate of 1.3%, projected
to decline to zero within a generation. I have elaborated elsewhere on the
devastating implications of a large population of dependent aged for a poor
country (Demographics and Iran's imperial design, September 13, 2005).
These
considerations prompted me to predict early on that Iranian President
Mahmud
Ahmadinejad no more would shrink from confrontation with the West than did
Adolf Hitler. But the rest of the Muslim world faces the same pressures.
The global relationship among literacy rates,
secularization and population growth makes clear that the fragility of
Muslim traditional society is not a Muslim problem as such. But the Muslim
world is far more vulnerable than the numbers suggest, for two reasons. The
first reason is chronological, and the second is theological.
It is not a good thing to come late to the table of
globalization. China and its neighbors have emerged from the maelstrom of
revolution and the violent loss of tens of millions of lives to become
actors on the world economic stage. Of China's 1.3 billion people, 400
million are integrated into the world division of labor, and millions more
are becoming urbanized, literate and productive by the year. India remains
behind China but has good prospects for success. Against these formidable
competitors, few countries in Western Asia, Africa or Latin America can
hope
to prevail. In a world that has little need of subsistence farmers and even
less need of university graduates with degrees in Islamic philosophy, most
of the Muslim world can expect small mercy from the market.
The theological problem I have discussed in other
locations, most recently in reporting the pope's seminar at Castelgandolfo.
Christianity and Judaism have adapted to doubt, the bacillus of modern
thought, by inviting doubt to serve as the handmaiden of faith. No better
formulation of this can be found than in Benedict XVI's classic
Introduction
to Christianity. The object of revelation, the believer, becomes a
participant in revelation, in dialogue with the Revealer. This great
innovation has not prevented the death of traditional, autonomic Christian
belief, but it has left an enduring core of Christian faith in the West
well
inoculated against skepticism. As the pope explained, the eternal,
unchanging character of the Koran that the Archangel Gabriel dictated
verbatim to Mohammed admits of no doubt. Muslim belief is not dialogue, but
submission. It is as defenseless before the bacillus of skepticism as the
American aboriginals were before the smallpox virus.
That is why Muslims cannot respond to Western jibes at the
person of their Prophet except as they did to the Jyllens-Posten
cartoons. I
do not sympathize with scoffers but, like Benedict, I see doubt as an
adversary to be won over, rather than as an enemy to be extirpated. I would
not have drawn nor published these cartoons, but when the lines are
drawn, I
stand with Western freedom against traditional authority. I write these
lines over a Carlsberg and shall drink no other lager until the boycott of
Danish product ends.
Notes
1. On February 2 fell the 150th death anniversary of the
greatest of Jewish humorists, the poet Heinrich Heine. Heine knew that
Jewish humor was a salve, not a cure, for humiliation. In a poem called "To
Edom", using the rabbis' ancient derogatory term for the Christian world,
Heine remonstrated that Christians and Jews "tolerate each other
fraternally. I tolerate your rages, and you tolerate my breathing." He also
wrote (as translated by Aaron Kramer):
"And the tears flow on forever
Southward in silent ranks
They flow to the Jordan river
And overrun the banks."
2. See for example Crossroads to Islam, by Yehuda Nevo and
Judith Koren (Prometheus Books: New York 2003).
3. See Crisis of Faith in the Muslim World Part 2: The
Islamist response, November 8, 2005.
(Copyright 2006 Asia Times Online Ltd. All rights
reserved. Please contact us for information on sales, syndication and
republishing .)
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