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User: "Joe Blowtowski"
Date: 06 Aug 2004 06:25:13 PM
Object: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and..
Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........
Why?
Why did Lt. Kerry say,
"...yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities.."
Why? Why the hell would he say that?
But more importantly, why did he say it LIKE that?
Look a little more closely!
"..yes, yes, I committed.."
Why did he say 'YES YES'?
The answer is so simple!
It's typical Kerry-esque Doublespeak!
because if
Lt. John Forbes Kerry would have been brought up on charges,
if Lt. John Forbes Kerry was ever made to Testify on Oath in a
Trial, then he would be able to claim that...
"I [lt j.kerry] never said I committed Atrocities"
"I [lt j.kerry] said
'Yes, Yes, I committed'
and that is entirely a different thing.
What is the definition of 'Yes, Yes, I?'
What is an atrocity to I,
might not be an atrocity to U.
And who is I? Is I a letter of the alphabet? or is it..."
or some non-sensical crap like that. You know, like the same
crap he still spews out today.. Kerry-esque Doublespeak
.

User: "abracadabra"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 11:20:43 PM
"Joe Blowtowski" <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,

He didnt
You're a liar
.

User: "BlackWater"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 07 Aug 2004 01:42:39 PM
Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?

Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame" - dubious as
that fame may be. He's desperate to drape the mantle
of "Warrior Leader" over his shoulders - even though
his political *record* has been one of trying to gut
every facet of our national defense. What's the old
saying - tell a big enough lie often enough and
pretty soon people will begin to believe it ? I think
it was Goebbels who said that ... or was it Mikey
Moore. Same thing really ...
.
User: "abracadabra"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 07 Aug 2004 05:55:55 PM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"

Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military strength
from the Republicans.
BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most drunk
President of the last 100 years?
LOL
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 09:02:24 AM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military strength
from the Republicans.
BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most drunk
President of the last 100 years?
LOL

Kerry is afraid if the focus moves from Vietnam
and what he claims he will do, his dismal record
in the Senate will be exposed. Not many liberal
politicians are willing to admit they are liberal. In
fact, they run from the prospect.
.
User: "abracadabra"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 09:36:13 AM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military

strength

from the Republicans.
BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most

drunk

President of the last 100 years?
LOL

Kerry is afraid if the focus moves from Vietnam

Wait a minute - what did Bush do before he was "president" - come on!

and what he claims he will do, his dismal record
in the Senate will be exposed.

What dismal record?
Not many liberal

politicians are willing to admit they are liberal. In
fact, they run from the prospect.

Again, what did Bush do before he was President?
Drunk
Failure as a parent
Failure drilling for oil in TEXAS
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 09:53:38 AM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military

strength

from the Republicans.
BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most

drunk

President of the last 100 years?
LOL


Kerry is afraid if the focus moves from Vietnam


Wait a minute - what did Bush do before he was "president" - come on!

He was the governor of Texas.

and what he claims he will do, his dismal record
in the Senate will be exposed.


What dismal record?

His very liberal voting record. For example,
he once wanted to cut the CIA budget so
deeply, even Teddy Kennedy couldn't
support him.

Not many liberal

politicians are willing to admit they are liberal. In
fact, they run from the prospect.


Again, what did Bush do before he was President?
Drunk
Failure as a parent
Failure drilling for oil in TEXAS

Topic shift ... evidence of a weak position.
.
User: "abracadabra"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 03:19:59 PM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single

day,

over and over and over and over and over and over and over and

over

and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military

strength

from the Republicans.
BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" -

most

drunk

President of the last 100 years?
LOL


Kerry is afraid if the focus moves from Vietnam


Wait a minute - what did Bush do before he was "president" - come on!


He was the governor of Texas.

You forgot "failed"


and what he claims he will do, his dismal record
in the Senate will be exposed.


What dismal record?


His very liberal voting record.

LOL
How was that "failing"
For example,

he once wanted to cut the CIA budget so
deeply, even Teddy Kennedy couldn't
support him.

LOL
Because the CIA wasn't spending the money, they were holding on to it. DOn't
you follow the news? He was cutting the spending on a certain program where
the CIA wasn't spending the money.

Not many liberal

politicians are willing to admit they are liberal. In
fact, they run from the prospect.


Again, what did Bush do before he was President?
Drunk
Failure as a parent
Failure drilling for oil in TEXAS


Topic shift ... evidence of a weak position.

LOL
Like the way the White House calls a bogus terror alert and then trots out
the lying swiftees after the Democratic Convention?
.

User: "InsuranceBroker"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 12:53:31 PM

Subject: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over
and..
From: "Bob" no@email.address
Date: 8/8/2004 10:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military

strength

from the Republicans.
BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most

drunk

President of the last 100 years?
LOL


Kerry is afraid if the focus moves from Vietnam


Wait a minute - what did Bush do before he was "president" - come on!


He was the governor of Texas.

He was a dismal failure at that too. He was governor when Enron ran amuck.
He was governor when Mexico reclaimed Texas as Mexico northern states. He was
government when 75 percent of the illegals entered the stated.


and what he claims he will do, his dismal record
in the Senate will be exposed.


What dismal record?


His very liberal voting record. For example,
he once wanted to cut the CIA budget so
deeply, even Teddy Kennedy couldn't
support him.

Not many liberal

politicians are willing to admit they are liberal. In
fact, they run from the prospect.


Again, what did Bush do before he was President?
Drunk
Failure as a parent
Failure drilling for oil in TEXAS


Topic shift ... evidence of a weak position.








Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
.




User: "T.Carr"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 11:31:23 AM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>

Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.

Ok "abra"
List the significant legislation authored and passed by Senator
Kerry in his 20 year career
Post it here ===>

But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military strength
from the Republicans.

All the GOP has to do is publicize his voting record in the Senate

BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most drunk
President of the last 100 years?

Looking forward to your reply..or is this where you disappear again?

T.Carr

LOL

.

User: "T.Carr"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 11:31:23 AM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com>

Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.

Ok "abra"
List the significant legislation authored and passed by Senator
Kerry in his 20 year career
Post it here ===>

But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military strength
from the Republicans.

All the GOP has to do is publicize his voting record in the Senate

BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most drunk
President of the last 100 years?

Looking forward to your reply..or is this where you disappear again?

T.Carr

LOL

.

User: "BlackWater"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 02:20:38 PM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military strength
from the Republicans.

All he's ever tried to do is CUT troop strength
and cripple what remains.

BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most drunk
President of the last 100 years?

U.S.Grant was drunker ... but that was more than 100
years ago. However, Grant was drunk ON THE JOB while
"W" is not.
"W"s claim to fame was that he was a popular and successful
governor of a large state - more popular and successful than
Clinton ever was in Arkansas.
.
User: "abracadabra"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 03:21:09 PM
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Joe Blowtowski <Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Because it's his ONLY claim to "fame"


Nope. Kerry had a decent career as a prosecutor and as a Senator.
But he's making the daring move of reclaiming the issue of military

strength

from the Republicans.


All he's ever tried to do is CUT troop strength
and cripple what remains.

LOL
Cheney proposed troops cuts. The congress voted for troop cuts. You might
recall that
THE COLD WAR ENDED.

BTW - what was Dubya's claim to fame before he was "president" - most

drunk

President of the last 100 years?


U.S.Grant was drunker ... but that was more than 100
years ago. However, Grant was drunk ON THE JOB while
"W" is not.

I wouldn't bet hard money on that proposition

"W"s claim to fame was that he was a popular and successful
governor of a large state - more popular and successful than
Clinton ever was in Arkansas.

I don't think so.
.




User: "Joe Blowtowski"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 12:05:39 PM
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:25:13 -0700, Joe Blowtowski
<Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:


Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?

I can hardly believe that no one figured it out.
"If a lie, if repeated often enough,
then it will be believed.
Maybe not by all,
but by enough to change an election”
Now Lt. John Kerry did serve in Vietnam - that is not a Lie
and according to the Kerry-ites,
he did serve 'honorably' (by his own definition of that word).
The Whitehouse and most Republicans
don't question Commrade Lt. John Forbes Kerry's Service
(I'm a Democrat so I can do it)
But once again
"If a lie, if repeated often enough,
'Bush is impuning Lt. John Forbes Kerry's integrity'
then it will be believed, Maybe not by all,
(by unimformed ignorant Liberal morons and future terrorists)
but by enough to change an election"'
.

User: "Joe Blowtowski"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 07:58:03 PM
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:25:13 -0700, Joe Blowtowski
<Joe_Blow@hotmail.com> wrote:
Let's start over.........
Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........
Why?
Why did Lt. Kerry say,
"...yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities.."
Why? Why the hell would he say that?
But more importantly, why did he say it LIKE that?
Look a little more closely!
"..yes, yes, I committed.."
Why did he say 'YES YES'?
The answer is so simple!
It's typical Kerry-esque Doublespeak!
because if
Lt. John Forbes Kerry would have been brought up on charges,
if Lt. John Forbes Kerry was ever made to Testify on Oath in a
Trial, then he would be able to claim that...
"I [lt j.kerry] never said I committed Atrocities"
"I [lt j.kerry] said
'Yes, Yes, I committed'
and that is entirely a different thing.
What is the definition of 'Yes, Yes, I?'
What is an atrocity to I,
might not be an atrocity to U.
And who is I? Is I a letter of the alphabet? or is it..."
or some non-sensical crap like that. You know, like the same
crap he still spews out today.. Kerry-esque Doublespeak
Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and.
Why?
.
User: "InsuranceBroker"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 08:24:54 PM

Subject: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over
and..
From: Joe Blowtowski


Date: 8/6/2004 8:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <37a8h0hg4msje2ou202m1mtnse33mkt0o3@4ax.com>

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:25:13 -0700, Joe Blowtowski
<
> wrote:

Let's start over.........


Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Why did Lt. Kerry say,
"...yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities.."

Why? Why the hell would he say that?


But more importantly, why did he say it LIKE that?

Look a little more closely!
"..yes, yes, I committed.."

Why did he say 'YES YES'?

The answer is so simple!
It's typical Kerry-esque Doublespeak!

because if
Lt. John Forbes Kerry would have been brought up on charges,
if Lt. John Forbes Kerry was ever made to Testify on Oath in a
Trial, then he would be able to claim that...

"I [lt j.kerry] never said I committed Atrocities"

"I [lt j.kerry] said
'Yes, Yes, I committed'
and that is entirely a different thing.

What is the definition of 'Yes, Yes, I?'

What is an atrocity to I,
might not be an atrocity to U.
And who is I? Is I a letter of the alphabet? or is it..."

or some non-sensical crap like that. You know, like the same
crap he still spews out today.. Kerry-esque Doublespeak
Well I will not cut you any slack. I doubt very serious that you are a

veteran. You sound like a typical ***** republicans playing the rove game of
spitting on veternas. for votes.






Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
.


User: "John Manning"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and overand.. 06 Aug 2004 08:38:54 PM
What did George W. Bush do during the Vietnam war besides get drunk, do
cocaine and ***** whores in Mexico?
Joe Blowtowski wrote:

Why does Lt. John Forbes Kerry bring up Vietnam every single day,
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and...........

Why?


Why did Lt. Kerry say,
"...yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities.."

Why? Why the hell would he say that?


But more importantly, why did he say it LIKE that?

Look a little more closely!
"..yes, yes, I committed.."

Why did he say 'YES YES'?

The answer is so simple!
It's typical Kerry-esque Doublespeak!

because if
Lt. John Forbes Kerry would have been brought up on charges,
if Lt. John Forbes Kerry was ever made to Testify on Oath in a
Trial, then he would be able to claim that...

"I [lt j.kerry] never said I committed Atrocities"

"I [lt j.kerry] said
'Yes, Yes, I committed'
and that is entirely a different thing.

What is the definition of 'Yes, Yes, I?'

What is an atrocity to I,
might not be an atrocity to U.
And who is I? Is I a letter of the alphabet? or is it..."

or some non-sensical crap like that. You know, like the same
crap he still spews out today.. Kerry-esque Doublespeak


.
User: "Foxtrot"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 09:55:39 PM
John Manning <jrobertm@terra.com.br> wrote:

What did George W. Bush do during the Vietnam war besides get drunk, do
cocaine and ***** whores in Mexico?

How come you Bush haters didn't care about past military
service when draft dodging BJ was running against GHW
Bush or Bob Dole? Hypocrites.
I'd rather have Bush the party animal in office than a traitor
who falsely accused his fellow servicemen of war crimes.
GHW Bush and Bob Dole were assets while we were at
war. Bush43 was benign. Jean Kerrée assisted the enemy.

Joe Blowtowski wrote:

Why did Lt. Kerry say,
"...yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities.."

Why? Why the hell would he say that?

But more importantly, why did he say it LIKE that?

Jean Kerrée is a bullshitter like Clinton. Not as slick
though.
.
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Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 10:33:42 PM
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John Manning <jrobertm@terra.com.br> wrote:

What did George W. Bush do during the Vietnam war besides get drunk, do
cocaine and ***** whores in Mexico?


How come you Bush haters didn't care about past military
service when draft dodging BJ was running against GHW
Bush or Bob Dole? Hypocrites.

Bush was more than a dodger, he was a deserter.
Then he grandstands on the aircraft carrier.
Lets call him President missunderestimated photo op.


I'd rather have Bush the party animal in office than a traitor
who falsely accused his fellow servicemen of war crimes.
GHW Bush and Bob Dole were assets while we were at
war. Bush43 was benign.

Benign as the goop that sits between his ears ??

Jean Kerrée assisted the enemy.

Joe Blowtowski wrote:

Why did Lt. Kerry say,
"...yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities.."

Why? Why the hell would he say that?

But more importantly, why did he say it LIKE that?


Jean Kerrée is a bullshitter like Clinton. Not as slick
though.

.
User: "Foxtrot"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 10:46:33 PM
<owl_1971@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

How come you Bush haters didn't care about past military
service when draft dodging BJ was running against GHW
Bush or Bob Dole? Hypocrites.


Bush was more than a dodger, he was a deserter.
Then he grandstands on the aircraft carrier.
Lets call him President missunderestimated photo op.

I repeat the question. How come you libs didn't care
about past military service when BJ was running against
GHW Bush or Bob Dole?

I'd rather have Bush the party animal in office than a traitor
who falsely accused his fellow servicemen of war crimes.
GHW Bush and Bob Dole were assets while we were at
war. Bush43 was benign.


Benign as the goop that sits between his ears ??

Yeah, that dumb Harvard MBA. Dems Al Grrrr and
Ann Richards must be brain-dead to lose elections to
somebody that stupid, eh? Heh heh
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 11:09:11 PM
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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<owl_1971@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

How come you Bush haters didn't care about past military
service when draft dodging BJ was running against GHW
Bush or Bob Dole? Hypocrites.


Bush was more than a dodger, he was a deserter.
Then he grandstands on the aircraft carrier.
Lets call him President missunderestimated photo op.


I repeat the question. How come you libs didn't care
about past military service when BJ was running against
GHW Bush or Bob Dole?

Clinton didn't send soldiers to die, in a war that has produced no benefit
to America, but has been very lucrative for the vice president's former
company.
Clinton didn't grandstand on an aircraft carrier.
Clinton wasn't elected president under such questionable circumstances.
Clinton didn't have an administration that covered up a violation of the
Geneva convention perpetrated by US soldiers under orders.
And never forget. by the popular vote it wasn't just a bunch of libs that
wanted Gore for president.
If Bush was such a patriot, then why did he need a court ruling to stop the
recount ???


I'd rather have Bush the party animal in office than a traitor
who falsely accused his fellow servicemen of war crimes.
GHW Bush and Bob Dole were assets while we were at
war. Bush43 was benign.


Benign as the goop that sits between his ears ??


Yeah, that dumb Harvard MBA. Dems Al Grrrr and
Ann Richards must be brain-dead to lose elections to
somebody that stupid, eh? Heh heh

News flash Just because W. enjoys all the breaks life could ever have to
offer, and then some...
It doesn't make him smart. It makes him lucky.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop
thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do
we."-George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
When W made his quote about Saddam Hussein's "willingness to terrorize
himself"
Was George W. Bush confusing Saddam's motives with his own ???
Or will you just admit he obviously misunderestimated the importance of
meaning what he says, enough to just simply say it correctly.
So what part of W's inability to speak English makes him a "strong leader"
???


.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 07 Aug 2004 11:56:52 AM
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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<owl_1971@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

How come you Bush haters didn't care about past military
service when draft dodging BJ was running against GHW
Bush or Bob Dole? Hypocrites.


Bush was more than a dodger, he was a deserter.
Then he grandstands on the aircraft carrier.
Lets call him President missunderestimated photo op.


I repeat the question. How come you libs didn't care
about past military service when BJ was running against
GHW Bush or Bob Dole?


Clinton didn't send soldiers to die, in a war that has produced no benefit
to America, but has been very lucrative for the vice president's former
company.
Clinton didn't grandstand on an aircraft carrier.
Clinton wasn't elected president under such questionable circumstances.
Clinton didn't have an administration that covered up a violation of the
Geneva convention perpetrated by US soldiers under orders.

Your non-answer is duly noted.

And never forget. by the popular vote it wasn't just a bunch of libs that
wanted Gore for president.
If Bush was such a patriot, then why did he need a court ruling to stop the
recount ???

The court intervened to keep the Gore
lawyers from stealing an election.
.

User: "Foxtrot"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 11:24:27 PM
<owl_1971@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

I repeat the question. How come you libs didn't care
about past military service when BJ was running against
GHW Bush or Bob Dole?


Clinton didn't send soldiers to die, in a war that has produced no benefit
to America, but has been very lucrative for the vice president's former
company.
Clinton didn't grandstand on an aircraft carrier.
Clinton wasn't elected president under such questionable circumstances.
Clinton didn't have an administration that covered up a violation of the
Geneva convention perpetrated by US soldiers under orders.

Okay, you claim that BJ was an angel AFTER he took
office. Fine. <eyes rolling>
But we're discussing past military experience and how
it relates to getting elected in the first place. Which
makes me return to the question: How come you libs
didn't care about past military service when BJ was
running against GHW Bush or Bob Dole? HMMM?

And never forget. by the popular vote it wasn't just a bunch of libs that
wanted Gore for president.
If Bush was such a patriot, then why did he need a court ruling to stop the
recount ???

Because Al Grrrr was trying to cook up phony votes in
Dem districts and steal the presidency. Seven of nine
supreme court justices agreed.

Yeah, that dumb Harvard MBA. Dems Al Grrrr and
Ann Richards must be brain-dead to lose elections to
somebody that stupid, eh? Heh heh


News flash Just because W. enjoys all the breaks life could ever have to
offer, and then some...
It doesn't make him smart. It makes him lucky.

Different from Al Grrrr or the Kennedys exactly how?

Or will you just admit he obviously misunderestimated the importance of
meaning what he says, enough to just simply say it correctly.

So what part of W's inability to speak English makes him a "strong leader"
???

"I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it!"
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 07 Aug 2004 11:00:49 AM
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<owl_1971@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

I repeat the question. How come you libs didn't care
about past military service when BJ was running against
GHW Bush or Bob Dole?


Clinton didn't send soldiers to die, in a war that has produced no

benefit

to America, but has been very lucrative for the vice president's former
company.
Clinton didn't grandstand on an aircraft carrier.
Clinton wasn't elected president under such questionable circumstances.
Clinton didn't have an administration that covered up a violation of the
Geneva convention perpetrated by US soldiers under orders.


Okay, you claim that BJ was an angel AFTER he took
office. Fine. <eyes rolling>

But we're discussing past military experience and how
it relates to getting elected in the first place. Which
makes me return to the question: How come you libs
didn't care about past military service when BJ was
running against GHW Bush or Bob Dole? HMMM?

In a nutshell... I'd say Clinton did not do so many things that were bad for
our nation Bush did.
Bush continues to grandstand on causes when he doesn't believe them enough
to simply speak English correctly.
I did try to answer your question, but your blind faith in Bush makes your
reason hard to find.
Bush does nothing but preach fear, promote war, and push to gain absolute
power.
He uses fear as a tool.
It was the Bush supporters that are brought up the military records.
And the simple fact remains.
Bush deserted the national guard, and it was covered up.
When any other American would have been imprisoned for that offense.
Kerry fought in Viet Nam.
Bush has periods of his life he cannot account for and refuses to own up to.
He has never given a straight answer about cocaine use, his SEC
investigation, his collection of businesses he ran into the ground.
Bush is the only president that gave a tax cut to the rich in war time
during a deficit.


And never forget. by the popular vote it wasn't just a bunch of libs

that

wanted Gore for president.
If Bush was such a patriot, then why did he need a court ruling to stop

the

recount ???


Because Al Grrrr was trying to cook up phony votes in
Dem districts and steal the presidency. Seven of nine
supreme court justices agreed.

You really believe that ? Why because god told you or Karl Rove, or was it
Rush Limbaugh.
It's really entertaining when you suggest fraud while Bush's own brother was
in charge of the state,
the fraud you suggest was on the Democrats side ??? please


Yeah, that dumb Harvard MBA. Dems Al Grrrr and
Ann Richards must be brain-dead to lose elections to
somebody that stupid, eh? Heh heh


News flash Just because W. enjoys all the breaks life could ever have to
offer, and then some...
It doesn't make him smart. It makes him lucky.


Different from Al Grrrr or the Kennedys exactly how?

No one covered up a National Guard desertion for the Kennedys or Al Gore.
Your are really illustrating your lack of capability to even question Bush.


Or will you just admit he obviously misunderestimated the importance of
meaning what he says, enough to just simply say it correctly.

So what part of W's inability to speak English makes him a "strong

leader"

???


"I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it!"

Oh flip flop you are referring to.
Bush voted for "leave no child behind", then refused to fund it while giving
tax cuts to his buddies in high places.
Bush claims to be moderate but is way out on the Right. Appoints Ashcroft
attempts to change the constitution.
Fails to uphold the Geneva Convention.
Kerry is far more moderate than Bush.
.
User: "Foxtrot"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 07 Aug 2004 03:18:33 PM
"owl_1971@hotmail.com" <owl_1971_spammers_tongues_are_toilet_paper@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

But we're discussing past military experience and how
it relates to getting elected in the first place. Which
makes me return to the question: How come you libs
didn't care about past military service when BJ was
running against GHW Bush or Bob Dole? HMMM?


In a nutshell... I'd say Clinton did not do so many things that were bad for
our nation Bush did.
Bush continues to grandstand on causes when he doesn't believe them enough
to simply speak English correctly.

I did try to answer your question, but your blind faith in Bush makes your
reason hard to find.
Bush does nothing but preach fear, promote war, and push to gain absolute
power.
He uses fear as a tool.

No, you did not explain why past military service is now
so important but it didn't matter when BJ was running for
office.

It was the Bush supporters that are brought up the military records.
And the simple fact remains.
Bush deserted the national guard, and it was covered up.
When any other American would have been imprisoned for that offense.

BJ "forgot" getting multiple draft notices. No problem when
a Dem avoids the war, right?

Kerry fought in Viet Nam.

NO! Really? LOL

Bush has periods of his life he cannot account for and refuses to own up to.
He has never given a straight answer about cocaine use, his SEC
investigation, his collection of businesses he ran into the ground.
Bush is the only president that gave a tax cut to the rich in war time
during a deficit.

The book that claimed Bush was a cokehead was pulled
off the shelves by the publisher when they discovered
that the author was a fraud. OTOH Clinton's own brother
is a convicted cocaine trafficker who said BJ "has a nose
like a vacuum cleaner". But that didn't matter when it was
a Dem, did it?

Because Al Grrrr was trying to cook up phony votes in
Dem districts and steal the presidency. Seven of nine
supreme court justices agreed.


You really believe that ? Why because god told you or Karl Rove, or was it
Rush Limbaugh.
It's really entertaining when you suggest fraud while Bush's own brother was
in charge of the state,
the fraud you suggest was on the Democrats side ??? please

The hand recount in a heavily Dem district wasn't getting
enough votes for Gore, so they loosened the standards
for votes in a blatant attempt to brew up NEW votes for
Gore. It violated the part of the Constitution that guarantees
equal representation. That's why the USSC shut it down.

Different from Al Grrrr or the Kennedys exactly how?


No one covered up a National Guard desertion for the Kennedys or Al Gore.
Your are really illustrating your lack of capability to even question Bush.

I'm not incapable of questioning Bush, I'm pointing out
what hypocrites the Dems are for applying standards to
him that they don't apply to themselves.

Kerry is far more moderate than Bush.

Jean Kerrée is the most liberal person in the Senate.
He is NOT a moderate.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 10:09:40 AM
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"owl_1971@hotmail.com"

<owl_1971_spammers_tongues_are_toilet_paper@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

But we're discussing past military experience and how
it relates to getting elected in the first place. Which
makes me return to the question: How come you libs
didn't care about past military service when BJ was
running against GHW Bush or Bob Dole? HMMM?


In a nutshell... I'd say Clinton did not do so many things that were bad

for

our nation Bush did.
Bush continues to grandstand on causes when he doesn't believe them

enough

to simply speak English correctly.

I did try to answer your question, but your blind faith in Bush makes

your

reason hard to find.
Bush does nothing but preach fear, promote war, and push to gain absolute
power.
He uses fear as a tool.


No, you did not explain why past military service is now
so important but it didn't matter when BJ was running for
office.

Right after your inserted comment here I tried again to explain in my
previous post starting with ">>It was the Bush supporters that are brought
up the military records"
I'll try again.
The subject of military records are important now because the GOP noise
machine is intent on discrediting Kerry for if he so much as sneezed wrong
in the war.
So us moderates for new leadership here in the US emphasize, Why is the GOP
putting so much attention on Kerry's military history when they STILL have
not disclosed the information about Bush's desertion from the National
Guard.


It was the Bush supporters that are brought up the military records.
And the simple fact remains.
Bush deserted the national guard, and it was covered up.
When any other American would have been imprisoned for that offense.


BJ "forgot" getting multiple draft notices. No problem when
a Dem avoids the war, right?

Kerry fought in Viet Nam.


NO! Really? LOL

Says who, you ???, repeating the GOP noise machine.


Bush has periods of his life he cannot account for and refuses to own up

to.

He has never given a straight answer about cocaine use, his SEC
investigation, his collection of businesses he ran into the ground.
Bush is the only president that gave a tax cut to the rich in war time
during a deficit.


The book that claimed Bush was a cokehead was pulled
off the shelves by the publisher when they discovered
that the author was a fraud. OTOH Clinton's own brother
is a convicted cocaine trafficker who said BJ "has a nose
like a vacuum cleaner". But that didn't matter when it was
a Dem, did it?

Have you even seen the book ? Or are you like Republican Congressman David
Drier... who said
"I don't have to watch it to know it's wrong"
The book remains for sale. It is anotated with references to source
publications.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1887128751/102-9495195-9646514?v=glance
So in this supposed free country we are burning books now ???
If Bush is innocent and never snorted cocaine, then why cannot he ever
answer the question with a simple NO ????.
I don't really care about Clinton's brother did or said. Cite the source of
the quote since you are repeating it.
Shall we bring up Neil Bush ???


Because Al Grrrr was trying to cook up phony votes in
Dem districts and steal the presidency. Seven of nine
supreme court justices agreed.


You really believe that ? Why because god told you or Karl Rove, or was

it

Rush Limbaugh.
It's really entertaining when you suggest fraud while Bush's own brother

was

in charge of the state,
the fraud you suggest was on the Democrats side ??? please


The hand recount in a heavily Dem district wasn't getting
enough votes for Gore, so they loosened the standards
for votes in a blatant attempt to brew up NEW votes for
Gore. It violated the part of the Constitution that guarantees
equal representation. That's why the USSC shut it down.

Equal representation... What about those disenfranchised African American
votes ??? I don't think Kathryn Harris was promoting equal representation.
The democrats did offer the option of recounting the whole state, but that
was denied.
Why did republicans need to re-district Texas ???
Overall: If the heartland of America insists upon voting for the GOP who
believes in trickle down economics.
All of us middleclass people will have to move from the suburbia we can no
longer afford, into rural areas.
If the middleclass disappears, so will the heartland, or at least there will
be an invasion of suburbia refugees.
These people will be sick of America for the corporations, by the
corporations.
We don't build businesses to run at a profit. We grow them to sell.
Did you know GE is building a Research and Development center in India ??
I ask you. With how our education system is taking it on the chin,
continuously, what jobs will America retain ? Manufacturing jobs which are
re-labeled food service ??
Seems to me with this, and our holding back on science, (stem cell
research), we are guaranteeing we will be dead last in the world in terms of
medical research too.
I guess we'll just become a 3rd word plus corporate dynasties and family
foundations.


Different from Al Grrrr or the Kennedys exactly how?


No one covered up a National Guard desertion for the Kennedys or Al Gore.
Your are really illustrating your lack of capability to even question

Bush.


I'm not incapable of questioning Bush, I'm pointing out
what hypocrites the Dems are for applying standards to
him that they don't apply to themselves.

Is that why Ken Lay will do less time than Martha Stewart, if Ken does any
time at all ???
Well there is the common thread between you and I. I feel the same way
about how much Kerry's duty is being microscope by the GOP while their
candidate deserted the national guard. Wouldn't you say that is a double
standard as well.
Or do you have two standards for hypocrisy ?


Kerry is far more moderate than Bush.


Jean Kerrée is the most liberal person in the Senate.
He is NOT a moderate.

Says who...
I don't see John Kerry and his people seeking to change the constitution for
measure that in NO WAY serves the interest of the state.
I believe he answers to no one. I cannot believe his nerve when considering
the popular vote went to All Gore.
"I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain - I do not need to explain
why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President.
Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't
feel like I owe anybody an explanation." - George W. Bush, Bush at War
.
User: "Foxtrot"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 08 Aug 2004 03:09:44 PM
"owl_1971@hotmail.com" <owl_1971_spammers_tongues_are_toilet_paper@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

No, you did not explain why past military service is now
so important but it didn't matter when BJ was running for
office.


Right after your inserted comment here I tried again to explain in my
previous post starting with ">>It was the Bush supporters that are brought
up the military records"
I'll try again.
The subject of military records are important now because the GOP noise
machine is intent on discrediting Kerry for if he so much as sneezed wrong
in the war.
So us moderates for new leadership here in the US emphasize, Why is the GOP
putting so much attention on Kerry's military history when they STILL have
not disclosed the information about Bush's desertion from the National
Guard.

Kerry is the one who constantly brags about his military
service and his three Purple Scratch medals. By doing
so, he invited the scrutiny he's receiving. And it isn't the
GOP that's blasting him, it's his fellow Vietnam vets.

The book that claimed Bush was a cokehead was pulled
off the shelves by the publisher when they discovered
that the author was a fraud. OTOH Clinton's own brother
is a convicted cocaine trafficker who said BJ "has a nose
like a vacuum cleaner". But that didn't matter when it was
a Dem, did it?


Have you even seen the book ? Or are you like Republican Congressman David
Drier... who said
"I don't have to watch it to know it's wrong"

So what? I don't have to read Mein Kampf to know what
kind of crap is in it.

I don't really care about Clinton's brother did or said. Cite the source of
the quote since you are repeating it.

It's on a police videotape. Larry Elder mentions it here.
He's partisan, but his data is flawless.
http://www.larryelder.com/mediabias/clintoncoke.htm

The hand recount in a heavily Dem district wasn't getting
enough votes for Gore, so they loosened the standards
for votes in a blatant attempt to brew up NEW votes for
Gore. It violated the part of the Constitution that guarantees
equal representation. That's why the USSC shut it down.


Equal representation... What about those disenfranchised African American
votes ??? I don't think Kathryn Harris was promoting equal representation.

Prove that she intentionally disenfranchised blacks.

The democrats did offer the option of recounting the whole state, but that
was denied.

No they didn't. They only wanted to look for votes in Dem
counties.

Why did republicans need to re-district Texas ???

They obviously wanted to pick up some seats. BFD.
Politicians have been gerrymandering for centuries. IIRC
Dems in Texas were whining only because the districts
were redrawn two years after the census.

Overall: If the heartland of America insists upon voting for the GOP who
believes in trickle down economics.
All of us middleclass people will have to move from the suburbia we can no
longer afford, into rural areas.
If the middleclass disappears, so will the heartland, or at least there will
be an invasion of suburbia refugees.
These people will be sick of America for the corporations, by the
corporations.
We don't build businesses to run at a profit. We grow them to sell.

Did you know GE is building a Research and Development center in India ??
I ask you. With how our education system is taking it on the chin,
continuously, what jobs will America retain ? Manufacturing jobs which are
re-labeled food service ??
Seems to me with this, and our holding back on science, (stem cell
research), we are guaranteeing we will be dead last in the world in terms of
medical research too.
I guess we'll just become a 3rd word plus corporate dynasties and family
foundations.

Sounds like you have a problem with capitalism. Jobs
leave the country because it costs so much to employ
people in the US. Why? Various reasons, mostly rooted
in liberalism, like labor unions, excessive regulation and
shakedown lawsuits.

I'm not incapable of questioning Bush, I'm pointing out
what hypocrites the Dems are for applying standards to
him that they don't apply to themselves.


Is that why Ken Lay will do less time than Martha Stewart, if Ken does any
time at all ???
Well there is the common thread between you and I. I feel the same way
about how much Kerry's duty is being microscope by the GOP while their
candidate deserted the national guard. Wouldn't you say that is a double
standard as well.
Or do you have two standards for hypocrisy ?

Repeat, Bush and the GOP aren't dumping on ketchup
boy's military service.

Jean Kerrée is the most liberal person in the Senate.
He is NOT a moderate.


Says who...

The National Journal ranked his congressional voting
record as the most liberal in the Senate for 2003.

I don't see John Kerry and his people seeking to change the constitution for
measure that in NO WAY serves the interest of the state.

I believe he answers to no one. I cannot believe his nerve when considering
the popular vote went to All Gore.

Sounds like you also have a problem with the national
electoral system, which has been in place for over two
hundred years.
Bush got about 49% of the popular vote. Clinton only
got 43% of the vote in 1992, but that didn't stop him from
trying to socialize the entire national health care system.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 10 Aug 2004 03:06:57 AM
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"owl_1971@hotmail.com"

<owl_1971_spammers_tongues_are_toilet_paper@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote

No, you did not explain why past military service is now
so important but it didn't matter when BJ was running for
office.


Right after your inserted comment here I tried again to explain in my
previous post starting with ">>It was the Bush supporters that are

brought

up the military records"
I'll try again.
The subject of military records are important now because the GOP noise
machine is intent on discrediting Kerry for if he so much as sneezed

wrong

in the war.
So us moderates for new leadership here in the US emphasize, Why is the

GOP

putting so much attention on Kerry's military history when they STILL

have

not disclosed the information about Bush's desertion from the National
Guard.


Kerry is the one who constantly brags about his military
service and his three Purple Scratch medals. By doing
so, he invited the scrutiny he's receiving. And it isn't the
GOP that's blasting him, it's his fellow Vietnam vets.

The book that claimed Bush was a cokehead was pulled
off the shelves by the publisher when they discovered
that the author was a fraud. OTOH Clinton's own brother
is a convicted cocaine trafficker who said BJ "has a nose
like a vacuum cleaner". But that didn't matter when it was
a Dem, did it?


Have you even seen the book ? Or are you like Republican Congressman

David

Drier... who said
"I don't have to watch it to know it's wrong"


So what? I don't have to read Mein Kampf to know what
kind of crap is in it.

I don't really care about Clinton's brother did or said. Cite the source

of

the quote since you are repeating it.


It's on a police videotape. Larry Elder mentions it here.
He's partisan, but his data is flawless.

http://www.larryelder.com/mediabias/clintoncoke.htm

The hand recount in a heavily Dem district wasn't getting
enough votes for Gore, so they loosened the standards
for votes in a blatant attempt to brew up NEW votes for
Gore. It violated the part of the Constitution that guarantees
equal representation. That's why the USSC shut it down.


Equal representation... What about those disenfranchised African American
votes ??? I don't think Kathryn Harris was promoting equal

representation.


Prove that she intentionally disenfranchised blacks.

The democrats did offer the option of recounting the whole state, but

that

was denied.


No they didn't. They only wanted to look for votes in Dem
counties.

Why did republicans need to re-district Texas ???


They obviously wanted to pick up some seats. BFD.
Politicians have been gerrymandering for centuries. IIRC
Dems in Texas were whining only because the districts
were redrawn two years after the census.

Overall: If the heartland of America insists upon voting for the GOP who
believes in trickle down economics.
All of us middleclass people will have to move from the suburbia we can

no

longer afford, into rural areas.
If the middleclass disappears, so will the heartland, or at least there

will

be an invasion of suburbia refugees.
These people will be sick of America for the corporations, by the
corporations.
We don't build businesses to run at a profit. We grow them to sell.

Did you know GE is building a Research and Development center in India ??
I ask you. With how our education system is taking it on the chin,
continuously, what jobs will America retain ? Manufacturing jobs which

are

re-labeled food service ??
Seems to me with this, and our holding back on science, (stem cell
research), we are guaranteeing we will be dead last in the world in terms

of

medical research too.
I guess we'll just become a 3rd word plus corporate dynasties and family
foundations.


Sounds like you have a problem with capitalism. Jobs
leave the country because it costs so much to employ
people in the US. Why? Various reasons, mostly rooted
in liberalism, like labor unions, excessive regulation and
shakedown lawsuits.

That's precisely what CEO's want you to believe.
So do their recipients of soft money in Washington want you to think as
well.
You seem to have much sympathy for those poor companies.
I guess you would prefer the workplace turn in to slave labor for the
American worker ??
You are forgetting the wonderful out-of-scale growth of CEO's salaries. You
don't think their pay
contributes to the high operational cost ???
I guess next you're going to tell me Bush is a Job creating president, and
promotes education.
I've got no problem with capitalism.
I just think American, degreed, experienced worker shouldn't have to forfeit
their retirement for the CEO's who buy 16,000 umbrella stands.
You tell me why a person who buys a 16,000 dollar umbrella stand needs the
largest benefit of a tax cut, while United States is completely failing to
educate our young.
You tell me why the republican party wants to change food service to the
classification of a manufacturing job.


I'm not incapable of questioning Bush, I'm pointing out
what hypocrites the Dems are for applying standards to
him that they don't apply to themselves.


Is that why Ken Lay will do less time than Martha Stewart, if Ken does

any

time at all ???
Well there is the common thread between you and I. I feel the same way
about how much Kerry's duty is being microscope by the GOP while their
candidate deserted the national guard. Wouldn't you say that is a double
standard as well.
Or do you have two standards for hypocrisy ?


Repeat, Bush and the GOP aren't dumping on ketchup
boy's military service.

Jean Kerrée is the most liberal person in the Senate.
He is NOT a moderate.


Says who...


The National Journal ranked his congressional voting
record as the most liberal in the Senate for 2003.

I don't see John Kerry and his people seeking to change the constitution

for

measure that in NO WAY serves the interest of the state.

I believe he answers to no one. I cannot believe his nerve when

considering

the popular vote went to All Gore.


Sounds like you also have a problem with the national
electoral system, which has been in place for over two
hundred years.

Bush got about 49% of the popular vote. Clinton only
got 43% of the vote in 1992, but that didn't stop him from
trying to socialize the entire national health care system.

.






User: "Tom Betz"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 07 Aug 2004 07:40:25 AM
Quoth <owl_1971@hotmail.com> in news:Dd6dnapSVaFdyIncRVn-tA@comcast.com:


Clinton didn't send soldiers to die, in a war that has produced no benefit
to America, but has been very lucrative for the vice president's former
company.

.... and for his own family business (the Carlyle Group).
--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.
.




User: "InsuranceBroker"

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 06 Aug 2004 10:04:40 PM

Subject: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over
and..
From: Foxtrot


Date: 8/6/2004 10:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <hig8h0tf4dpdfe1uivatbukoejfck4kod2@4ax.com
How come you Bush haters didn't care about past military
service when draft dodging BJ was running against GHW
Bush or Bob Dole? Hypocrites.

Because BJ did not make an issue and hire whores to attack the other guy.
Bush made it an issue when he started a war and put on a military uniform on
the aircraft carrier.

I'd rather have Bush the party animal in office than a traitor
who falsely accused his fellow servicemen of war crimes.

I am sure that you would. I am sure that you would support anyone the rove
told you to.

Jean Kerrée assisted the enemy.

*****. YOu are clearly an *****.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
.

User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."

Title: Re: Why did Kerry bring up VietNam every single day, over and over and.. 07 Aug 2004 11:58:06 AM
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:55:39 GMT, Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> wrote:

Jean Kerrée is a bullshitter like Clinton. Not as slick
though.

President Bush has told whopper lies from the time he started running
to today.
He has total contempt for the truth.
That you don't know that is why he does it.
Because you actually can't tell that he's lying.
That's a bit scary Foxtrot.
.




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