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"N. Czerniak" |
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06 Mar 2004 05:48:00 PM |
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"Why I'm Quitting the Republican Party" |
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/909/909_norepublican.asp
First, his home state passed one of the nation's most restrictive laws
outlawing same-sex marriage and many domestic-partner benefits. Then the
President announced his support for writing discrimination into the U.S.
Constitution. This Ohio gay activist has had enough and this week
relinquished his duties as a longtime member of the Republican Party of
Cuyahoga County.
Why I'm quitting the Republican Party
by John Farina
February 27, 2004
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
This was an extremely difficult decision for me to reach. I've been a
Republican all my life. But February 24 at 10:45 a.m. Eastern time, the
president changed things for me.
For the past 20 years, even before I was registered to vote, I have worked
within the Republican Party. I've been a candidate, held leadership
positions in the party, and given generously of my time and money.
I have had many arguments with my gay friends defending the GOP and certain
elected Republicans. I have had many friends and mentors who have all been
valuable parts of my life. It's tough to walk away from something that I
have been so much a part of. But knowing my president wants to officially
sanction discrimination against me, I cannot in good conscience remain a
Republican.
It was bad enough that my Republican friends in the Ohio legislature, people
who know me (and know better) and whom I've vigorously supported, voted for
a divisive, unnecessary, and discriminatory so-called defense of marriage
bill-despite my best lobbying efforts. I now have the president, the leader
of the party and the free world, telling me we must sanction this type of
discrimination in the Constitution of the United States of America.
Quite frankly, I'm sick over it. It is an insult to me as a lifelong
Republican and it does nothing to strengthen marriage. It is an obviously
political move that will do nothing but divide the nation even further. So
much for Mr. Bush being a uniter. I can think of no other time in our
country's history when the president has sought to so directly limit the
rights of a group of Americans. This is not a true conservative value; it is
that of the radical right.
I realize that many Americans may not support or even understand same-sex
marriage, and that's fine with me. But amending the Constitution for this
purpose is morally wrong. I think most Americans will find this disturbing
as well, and it will ultimately cost Bush votes. I know I'll do my part to
work against the president and any elected official who ultimately supports
this attack on civil rights.
The party has been overtaken, both nationally and in Ohio, by hard-right
social conservatives that seem hell-bent on moving the country in reverse on
civil rights, seemingly at the expense of more important issues such as
fiscal responsibility. At one time in history, the Republican Party was a
leader in civil rights-that Republican Party no longer exists. I always felt
it was important to remain active and fight such blatant attempts at
discrimination, but that effort is obviously futile.
I will still count many Republican as friends, and the response I have
received from many of them shows they understand this very difficult,
personal decision. In fact, one elected Republican official told me the GOP
has left me. On Tuesday, March 2, I will pick up a Democratic ballot in the
Ohio primary (and vote for John Edwards) and begin a new chapter of
political activism in my life.
--
Tired of the same rhetoric of lies and deceit?
http://www.gentlemanjim.net/
"It aint what you don't know that'll hurt ya, it's what you "know" that aint
so." -- Will Rogers
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| User: "JohnnyCJohnny" |
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| Title: Re: "Why I'm Quitting the Republican Party" |
06 Mar 2004 10:34:42 PM |
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"N. Czerniak" <Nate57@cox.net> wrote in message news:<Oqt2c.21055$h23.14655@fed1read06>...
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/909/909_norepublican.asp
First, his home state passed one of the nation's most restrictive laws
outlawing same-sex marriage and many domestic-partner benefits. Then the
President announced his support for writing discrimination into the U.S.
Constitution. This Ohio gay activist has had enough and this week
relinquished his duties as a longtime member of the Republican Party of
Cuyahoga County.
Why I'm quitting the Republican Party
by John Farina
February 27, 2004
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
This was an extremely difficult decision for me to reach. I've been a
Republican all my life. But February 24 at 10:45 a.m. Eastern time, the
president changed things for me.
For the past 20 years, even before I was registered to vote, I have worked
within the Republican Party. I've been a candidate, held leadership
positions in the party, and given generously of my time and money.
I have had many arguments with my gay friends defending the GOP and certain
elected Republicans. I have had many friends and mentors who have all been
valuable parts of my life. It's tough to walk away from something that I
have been so much a part of. But knowing my president wants to officially
sanction discrimination against me, I cannot in good conscience remain a
Republican.
It was bad enough that my Republican friends in the Ohio legislature, people
who know me (and know better) and whom I've vigorously supported, voted for
a divisive, unnecessary, and discriminatory so-called defense of marriage
bill-despite my best lobbying efforts. I now have the president, the leader
of the party and the free world, telling me we must sanction this type of
discrimination in the Constitution of the United States of America.
Quite frankly, I'm sick over it. It is an insult to me as a lifelong
Republican and it does nothing to strengthen marriage. It is an obviously
political move that will do nothing but divide the nation even further. So
much for Mr. Bush being a uniter. I can think of no other time in our
country's history when the president has sought to so directly limit the
rights of a group of Americans. This is not a true conservative value; it is
that of the radical right.
I realize that many Americans may not support or even understand same-sex
marriage, and that's fine with me. But amending the Constitution for this
purpose is morally wrong. I think most Americans will find this disturbing
as well, and it will ultimately cost Bush votes. I know I'll do my part to
work against the president and any elected official who ultimately supports
this attack on civil rights.
The party has been overtaken, both nationally and in Ohio, by hard-right
social conservatives that seem hell-bent on moving the country in reverse on
civil rights, seemingly at the expense of more important issues such as
fiscal responsibility. At one time in history, the Republican Party was a
leader in civil rights-that Republican Party no longer exists. I always felt
it was important to remain active and fight such blatant attempts at
discrimination, but that effort is obviously futile.
I will still count many Republican as friends, and the response I have
received from many of them shows they understand this very difficult,
personal decision. In fact, one elected Republican official told me the GOP
has left me. On Tuesday, March 2, I will pick up a Democratic ballot in the
Ohio primary (and vote for John Edwards) and begin a new chapter of
political activism in my life.
Good for him! Now if only some of the other dolts who populate the
middle "flyover" part of this country would just come to their senses
like this smart guy did, perhaps we can start moving forward as a
nation, instead of being constantly divided by Republican
divide-and-conquer politics.
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| User: "The Finger" |
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| Title: Re: "Why I'm Quitting the Republican Party" |
06 Mar 2004 09:51:22 PM |
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N. Czerniak wrote:
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/909/909_norepublican.asp
First, his home state passed one of the nation's most restrictive laws
outlawing same-sex marriage and many domestic-partner benefits. Then the
President announced his support for writing discrimination into the U.S.
Constitution. This Ohio gay activist has had enough and this week
relinquished his duties as a longtime member of the Republican Party of
Cuyahoga County.
Why I'm quitting the Republican Party
by John Farina
February 27, 2004
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
This was an extremely difficult decision for me to reach. I've been a
Republican all my life. But February 24 at 10:45 a.m. Eastern time, the
president changed things for me.
For the past 20 years, even before I was registered to vote, I have worked
within the Republican Party. I've been a candidate, held leadership
positions in the party, and given generously of my time and money.
I have had many arguments with my gay friends defending the GOP and certain
elected Republicans. I have had many friends and mentors who have all been
valuable parts of my life. It's tough to walk away from something that I
have been so much a part of. But knowing my president wants to officially
sanction discrimination against me, I cannot in good conscience remain a
Republican.
It was bad enough that my Republican friends in the Ohio legislature, people
who know me (and know better) and whom I've vigorously supported, voted for
a divisive, unnecessary, and discriminatory so-called defense of marriage
bill-despite my best lobbying efforts. I now have the president, the leader
of the party and the free world, telling me we must sanction this type of
discrimination in the Constitution of the United States of America.
Quite frankly, I'm sick over it. It is an insult to me as a lifelong
Republican and it does nothing to strengthen marriage. It is an obviously
political move that will do nothing but divide the nation even further. So
much for Mr. Bush being a uniter. I can think of no other time in our
country's history when the president has sought to so directly limit the
rights of a group of Americans. This is not a true conservative value; it is
that of the radical right.
I realize that many Americans may not support or even understand same-sex
marriage, and that's fine with me. But amending the Constitution for this
purpose is morally wrong. I think most Americans will find this disturbing
as well, and it will ultimately cost Bush votes. I know I'll do my part to
work against the president and any elected official who ultimately supports
this attack on civil rights.
The party has been overtaken, both nationally and in Ohio, by hard-right
social conservatives that seem hell-bent on moving the country in reverse on
civil rights, seemingly at the expense of more important issues such as
fiscal responsibility. At one time in history, the Republican Party was a
leader in civil rights-that Republican Party no longer exists. I always felt
it was important to remain active and fight such blatant attempts at
discrimination, but that effort is obviously futile.
I will still count many Republican as friends, and the response I have
received from many of them shows they understand this very difficult,
personal decision. In fact, one elected Republican official told me the GOP
has left me. On Tuesday, March 2, I will pick up a Democratic ballot in the
Ohio primary (and vote for John Edwards) and begin a new chapter of
political activism in my life.
Welcome to the Democratic Party. You will be happy here because we have
a healthy outlook on diversity.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: "Why I'm Quitting the Republican Party" |
07 Mar 2004 02:25:18 AM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:48:00 -0800, "N. Czerniak" <Nate57@cox.net>
wrote:
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
He can't be a Democrat either as they do not support gay marriage.
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| User: "Brian King" |
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| Title: Re: "Why I'm Quitting the Republican Party" |
07 Mar 2004 03:28:28 AM |
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<mange@merde.com> wrote in message
news:dsnl4019vchiclfoh036dh26m9vslne4fo@4ax.com...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:48:00 -0800, "N. Czerniak" <Nate57@cox.net>
wrote:
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
He can't be a Democrat either as they do not support gay marriage.
Some do, some don't. The same with Republicans but to a lesser extent of
"some do".
Can someone please tell me if there has ever been a President elected who
didn't see the "light of day" and turn his back on an election promise but
was still voted for?
I'm sure you all recall when Bush campaigned on eliminating the deficit by
2010. All politicians are jackasses. Don't depend on the "promises",
drill deeper for the reasons why.
Frigging Billy C won lots of support over "National Healthcare". I didn't
see any Republicans screaming that he was a liar when he didn't come
through!
They're all full of it, it's just a matter of choosing your poison.
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| User: "CEP" |
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07 Mar 2004 06:51:35 AM |
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You are RIGHT ON.................
VOTE FOR NADER AND GET BACK AT THOSE REPUBLICANS.
Brian King wrote:
<mange@merde.com> wrote in message
news:dsnl4019vchiclfoh036dh26m9vslne4fo@4ax.com...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:48:00 -0800, "N. Czerniak" <Nate57@cox.net>
wrote:
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
He can't be a Democrat either as they do not support gay marriage.
Some do, some don't. The same with Republicans but to a lesser extent of
"some do".
Can someone please tell me if there has ever been a President elected who
didn't see the "light of day" and turn his back on an election promise but
was still voted for?
I'm sure you all recall when Bush campaigned on eliminating the deficit by
2010. All politicians are jackasses. Don't depend on the "promises",
drill deeper for the reasons why.
Frigging Billy C won lots of support over "National Healthcare". I didn't
see any Republicans screaming that he was a liar when he didn't come
through!
They're all full of it, it's just a matter of choosing your poison.
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| User: "crownborn" |
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| Title: Re: "Why I'm Quitting the Republican Party" |
07 Mar 2004 09:18:25 AM |
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"mange@merde.com" <mange@merde.com> wrote in message news:<dsnl4019vchiclfoh036dh26m9vslne4fo@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:48:00 -0800, "N. Czerniak" <Nate57@cox.net>
wrote:
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
He can't be a Democrat either as they do not support gay marriage.
True but they will leave it up to the individual states to decide.
Just like the repubs did in the old days in regards to the civil
rights movement. Now the GOP wants the Fed Guvment involved.
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| User: "TreeLeaf" |
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| Title: Re: "Why I'm Quitting the Republican Party" |
06 Mar 2004 09:26:00 PM |
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The idiot shouldn't have been a republican in the first place. The GOP
has known to be anti-woman, anti-civil rights. What? You only care
if the GOP does stuff that negatively impacts gay, white men?? I get
it.
"N. Czerniak" <Nate57@cox.net> wrote in message news:<Oqt2c.21055$h23.14655@fed1read06>...
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/909/909_norepublican.asp
First, his home state passed one of the nation's most restrictive laws
outlawing same-sex marriage and many domestic-partner benefits. Then the
President announced his support for writing discrimination into the U.S.
Constitution. This Ohio gay activist has had enough and this week
relinquished his duties as a longtime member of the Republican Party of
Cuyahoga County.
Why I'm quitting the Republican Party
by John Farina
February 27, 2004
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
This was an extremely difficult decision for me to reach. I've been a
Republican all my life. But February 24 at 10:45 a.m. Eastern time, the
president changed things for me.
For the past 20 years, even before I was registered to vote, I have worked
within the Republican Party. I've been a candidate, held leadership
positions in the party, and given generously of my time and money.
I have had many arguments with my gay friends defending the GOP and certain
elected Republicans. I have had many friends and mentors who have all been
valuable parts of my life. It's tough to walk away from something that I
have been so much a part of. But knowing my president wants to officially
sanction discrimination against me, I cannot in good conscience remain a
Republican.
It was bad enough that my Republican friends in the Ohio legislature, people
who know me (and know better) and whom I've vigorously supported, voted for
a divisive, unnecessary, and discriminatory so-called defense of marriage
bill-despite my best lobbying efforts. I now have the president, the leader
of the party and the free world, telling me we must sanction this type of
discrimination in the Constitution of the United States of America.
Quite frankly, I'm sick over it. It is an insult to me as a lifelong
Republican and it does nothing to strengthen marriage. It is an obviously
political move that will do nothing but divide the nation even further. So
much for Mr. Bush being a uniter. I can think of no other time in our
country's history when the president has sought to so directly limit the
rights of a group of Americans. This is not a true conservative value; it is
that of the radical right.
I realize that many Americans may not support or even understand same-sex
marriage, and that's fine with me. But amending the Constitution for this
purpose is morally wrong. I think most Americans will find this disturbing
as well, and it will ultimately cost Bush votes. I know I'll do my part to
work against the president and any elected official who ultimately supports
this attack on civil rights.
The party has been overtaken, both nationally and in Ohio, by hard-right
social conservatives that seem hell-bent on moving the country in reverse on
civil rights, seemingly at the expense of more important issues such as
fiscal responsibility. At one time in history, the Republican Party was a
leader in civil rights-that Republican Party no longer exists. I always felt
it was important to remain active and fight such blatant attempts at
discrimination, but that effort is obviously futile.
I will still count many Republican as friends, and the response I have
received from many of them shows they understand this very difficult,
personal decision. In fact, one elected Republican official told me the GOP
has left me. On Tuesday, March 2, I will pick up a Democratic ballot in the
Ohio primary (and vote for John Edwards) and begin a new chapter of
political activism in my life.
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| User: "micronerdo" |
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07 Mar 2004 07:42:26 AM |
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oh give me a freakin' break....
we can smell a Mcauffilwaffle talking point # anytime anywhere.
what will the seminar teach you tomorrow... how to Carnack a vote?
"i've been a lifelong republican......" cracks me up everytime ;D
Terry, stop it, stop it..... LOL!
"N. Czerniak" <Nate57@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Oqt2c.21055$h23.14655@fed1read06...
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/909/909_norepublican.asp
First, his home state passed one of the nation's most restrictive laws
outlawing same-sex marriage and many domestic-partner benefits. Then the
President announced his support for writing discrimination into the U.S.
Constitution. This Ohio gay activist has had enough and this week
relinquished his duties as a longtime member of the Republican Party of
Cuyahoga County.
Why I'm quitting the Republican Party
by John Farina
February 27, 2004
It's finally come to this: I can't be a Republican anymore.
This was an extremely difficult decision for me to reach. I've been a
Republican all my life. But February 24 at 10:45 a.m. Eastern time, the
president changed things for me.
For the past 20 years, even before I was registered to vote, I have worked
within the Republican Party. I've been a candidate, held leadership
positions in the party, and given generously of my time and money.
I have had many arguments with my gay friends defending the GOP and
certain
elected Republicans. I have had many friends and mentors who have all been
valuable parts of my life. It's tough to walk away from something that I
have been so much a part of. But knowing my president wants to officially
sanction discrimination against me, I cannot in good conscience remain a
Republican.
It was bad enough that my Republican friends in the Ohio legislature,
people
who know me (and know better) and whom I've vigorously supported, voted
for
a divisive, unnecessary, and discriminatory so-called defense of marriage
bill-despite my best lobbying efforts. I now have the president, the
leader
of the party and the free world, telling me we must sanction this type of
discrimination in the Constitution of the United States of America.
Quite frankly, I'm sick over it. It is an insult to me as a lifelong
Republican and it does nothing to strengthen marriage. It is an obviously
political move that will do nothing but divide the nation even further. So
much for Mr. Bush being a uniter. I can think of no other time in our
country's history when the president has sought to so directly limit the
rights of a group of Americans. This is not a true conservative value; it
is
that of the radical right.
I realize that many Americans may not support or even understand same-sex
marriage, and that's fine with me. But amending the Constitution for this
purpose is morally wrong. I think most Americans will find this disturbing
as well, and it will ultimately cost Bush votes. I know I'll do my part to
work against the president and any elected official who ultimately
supports
this attack on civil rights.
The party has been overtaken, both nationally and in Ohio, by hard-right
social conservatives that seem hell-bent on moving the country in reverse
on
civil rights, seemingly at the expense of more important issues such as
fiscal responsibility. At one time in history, the Republican Party was a
leader in civil rights-that Republican Party no longer exists. I always
felt
it was important to remain active and fight such blatant attempts at
discrimination, but that effort is obviously futile.
I will still count many Republican as friends, and the response I have
received from many of them shows they understand this very difficult,
personal decision. In fact, one elected Republican official told me the
GOP
has left me. On Tuesday, March 2, I will pick up a Democratic ballot in
the
Ohio primary (and vote for John Edwards) and begin a new chapter of
political activism in my life.
--
Tired of the same rhetoric of lies and deceit?
http://www.gentlemanjim.net/
"It aint what you don't know that'll hurt ya, it's what you "know" that
aint
so." -- Will Rogers
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