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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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04 Feb 2008 07:34:09 AM |
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Why McCain or Romney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make betterDems) |
It is a deluded fantasy to think that McCain or Romney could win the
next election. I don't need a long explanation to tell you why. It
comes down to two simple points...
1. Democrats make better democrats. What I mean by this is that in a
political battle between a Democrat liberal and a Republican liberal,
Democrats are going to stick with their own candidate..why should they
accept a copy instead of an original?
2. Hard Core Conservatives will not follow McCain. Some may betray
their principles for the party, but those committed to conservatism
will simply not vote, if the choice is between a liberal Republican
and a liberal Democrat.
So, McCain will not end up with a majority of EITHER the Democrat or
Republican vote and will be relying (almost exclusively) upon
independents to win the election. If he were somehow to win the
election, the republican party would self-destruct, as conservatives
left and the party ends up looking like Democrats, just like following
Theodore Roosevelt.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Why McCain or Romney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make better Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 08:12:14 AM |
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:394621f1-528f-4f85-8306-02decef6305d@b2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
It is a deluded fantasy to think that McCain or Romney could win the
next election. I don't need a long explanation to tell you why. It
comes down to two simple points...
1. Democrats make better democrats. What I mean by this is that in a
political battle between a Democrat liberal and a Republican liberal,
Democrats are going to stick with their own candidate..why should they
accept a copy instead of an original?
2. Hard Core Conservatives will not follow McCain. Some may betray
their principles for the party, but those committed to conservatism
will simply not vote, if the choice is between a liberal Republican
and a liberal Democrat.
So, McCain will not end up with a majority of EITHER the Democrat or
Republican vote and will be relying (almost exclusively) upon
independents to win the election. If he were somehow to win the
election, the republican party would self-destruct, as conservatives
left and the party ends up looking like Democrats, just like following
Theodore Roosevelt.
I believe McCain is the only Republican who could win in
November. He would win a large majority of Republican voters,
most independent voters, most hispanic voters, and if Clinton
is the opponent, a significant number of Democratic voters.
That's a winning combination. It's a close call if Obama is
the Democratic nominee.
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Why McCain or Romney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems makebetter Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 08:54:42 AM |
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On Feb 4, 8:12 am, "Bob" <n...@email.add> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:394621f1-528f-4f85-8306-02decef6305d@b2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
It is a deluded fantasy to think that McCain or Romney could win the
next election. I don't need a long explanation to tell you why. It
comes down to two simple points...
1. Democrats make better democrats. What I mean by this is that in a
political battle between a Democrat liberal and a Republican liberal,
Democrats are going to stick with their own candidate..why should they
accept a copy instead of an original?
2. Hard Core Conservatives will not follow McCain. Some may betray
their principles for the party, but those committed to conservatism
will simply not vote, if the choice is between a liberal Republican
and a liberal Democrat.
So, McCain will not end up with a majority of EITHER the Democrat or
Republican vote and will be relying (almost exclusively) upon
independents to win the election. If he were somehow to win the
election, the republican party would self-destruct, as conservatives
left and the party ends up looking like Democrats, just like following
Theodore Roosevelt.
I believe McCain is the only Republican who could win in
November. He would win a large majority of Republican voters,
most independent voters, most hispanic voters, and if Clinton
is the opponent, a significant number of Democratic voters.
That's a winning combination. It's a close call if Obama is
the Democratic nominee.
Fantasy. Democrats are not going to bypass their own candidate to go
for someone that speaks like a Democrat but would be subject to
Republican money influence. Any charge of Clinton's flip flops would
be met with McCain's flip flops (which are many). Independent voters
would split (being INDEPENDENT), so McCain couldn't count on all of
them...women would likely back Clinton. And, the Evangelical
Christian group of McCain's own party would likely stay home or vote
for the opposition (or a write in).
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Christians Could Start Their Own Party (Was: Re: Why McCain orRomney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make better Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 10:16:14 AM |
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Any charge of Clinton's flip flops would
be met with McCain's flip flops (which are many). =EF=BF=BDIndependent vot=
ers
would split (being INDEPENDENT), so McCain couldn't count on all of
them...women would likely back Clinton. =EF=BF=BDAnd, the Evangelical
Christian group of McCain's own party would likely stay home or vote
for the opposition (or a write in).
Whoaa there! Christians don't need to stay home. They can start
their very own party and run Huckabee!
It could be named:
The Christian Conservative Party
The Christian Right Party
The Christian Fundamentalist Party
The Bible Party
Party of Jesus
Party of God
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Could Start Their Own Party (Was: Re: Why McCain or Romney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make better Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 12:53:32 PM |
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"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c05ac27f-b097-46b8-a360-bc7342e72815@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Any charge of Clinton's flip flops would
be met with McCain's flip flops (which are many). ?Independent voters
would split (being INDEPENDENT), so McCain couldn't count on all of
them...women would likely back Clinton. ?And, the Evangelical
Christian group of McCain's own party would likely stay home or vote
for the opposition (or a write in).
Whoaa there! Christians don't need to stay home. They can start
their very own party and run Huckabee!
It could be named:
The Christian Conservative Party
The Christian Right Party
The Christian Fundamentalist Party
The Bible Party
Party of Jesus
Party of God
The religious kooks already have a registered political party. It's called
the 'Family Values Party' (http://members.aol.com/fvparty/fvparty1/). I
doubt forming another one would be any more politically viable.
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Could Start Their Own Party (Was: Re: Why McCain orRomney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make better Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 04:00:36 PM |
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On Feb 4, 10:16 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Any charge of Clinton's flip flops would
be met with McCain's flip flops (which are many). =EF=BF=BDIndependent v=
oters
would split (being INDEPENDENT), so McCain couldn't count on all of
them...women would likely back Clinton. =EF=BF=BDAnd, the Evangelical
Christian group of McCain's own party would likely stay home or vote
for the opposition (or a write in).
Whoaa there! Christians don't need to stay home. They can start
their very own party and run Huckabee!
It could be named:
=2E..after one of the religious kooks that founded the country (53 of
the founders were active members of their church). Indeed, I have a
book on my site that quotes EVERY President (Democrat and Republican)
that are both Christians and vocal about God (Even Bill Clinton). Why
do you think they did that, if the Christian conservative vote was not
important? Why do you think that both McCain and Romney that have
been anti-religious in the past have suddenly become "born again"
believers? The problem? Christians are not fools. We've already
shown the courage to reject a false system (unlike cowardly
agnostics). Rejecting a false candidate is no big leap.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Could Start Their Own Party (Was: Re: Why McCain orRomney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make better Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 11:33:41 PM |
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Any charge of Clinton's flip flops would
be met with McCain's flip flops (which are many). =EF=BF=BDIndependent=
voters
would split (being INDEPENDENT), so McCain couldn't count on all of
them...women would likely back Clinton. =EF=BF=BDAnd, the Evangelical
Christian group of McCain's own party would likely stay home or vote
for the opposition (or a write in).
Whoaa there! =C2=A0Christians don't need to stay home. =C2=A0They can st=
art
their very own party and run Huckabee!
=2E . .
=C2=A0Christians are not fools.
For over 30 years the false witness party (GOP) has been allowing the
murder of thousands of unborn babies.
To save these unborn babies you need to start your own party.
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Could Start Their Own Party (Was: Re: Why McCain orRomney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make better Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 11:58:23 PM |
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On Feb 4, 11:33 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Any charge of Clinton's flip flops would
be met with McCain's flip flops (which are many). =EF=BF=BDIndepende=
nt voters
would split (being INDEPENDENT), so McCain couldn't count on all of
them...women would likely back Clinton. =EF=BF=BDAnd, the Evangelica=
l
Christian group of McCain's own party would likely stay home or vote=
for the opposition (or a write in).
Whoaa there! Christians don't need to stay home. They can start
their very own party and run Huckabee!
. . .
Christians are not fools.
For over 30 years the false witness party (GOP) has been allowing the
murder of thousands of unborn babies.
To save these unborn babies you need to start your own party.
Bret Cahill
Bingo. That's why I will vote for the candidate supported by multiple
right to life committees...Mike Huckabee. You're making me sound like
an ad.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Christians Could Start Their Own Party (Was: Re: Why McCain orRomney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems make better Dems) |
05 Feb 2008 06:37:12 AM |
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On Feb 4, 11:58 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 11:33 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Any charge of Clinton's flip flops would
be met with McCain's flip flops (which are many). =EF=BF=BDIndepen=
dent voters
would split (being INDEPENDENT), so McCain couldn't count on all o=
f
them...women would likely back Clinton. =EF=BF=BDAnd, the Evangeli=
cal
Christian group of McCain's own party would likely stay home or vo=
te
for the opposition (or a write in).
Whoaa there! Christians don't need to stay home. They can start
their very own party and run Huckabee!
. . .
Christians are not fools.
For over 30 years the false witness party (GOP) has been allowing the
murder of thousands of unborn babies.
To save these unborn babies you need to start your own party.
Bret Cahill
Bingo. That's why I will vote for the candidate supported by multiple
right to life committees...Mike Huckabee. You're making me sound like
an ad.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
bump
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "JSM" |
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| Title: Re: Why McCain or Romney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems makebetter Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 10:07:37 AM |
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On Feb 4, 5:34 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It is a deluded fantasy to think that McCain or Romney could win the
next election. I don't need a long explanation to tell you why. It
comes down to two simple points...
1. Democrats make better democrats. What I mean by this is that in a
political battle between a Democrat liberal and a Republican liberal,
Democrats are going to stick with their own candidate..why should they
accept a copy instead of an original?
2. Hard Core Conservatives will not follow McCain. Some may betray
their principles for the party, but those committed to conservatism
will simply not vote, if the choice is between a liberal Republican
and a liberal Democrat.
So, McCain will not end up with a majority of EITHER the Democrat or
Republican vote and will be relying (almost exclusively) upon
independents to win the election. If he were somehow to win the
election, the republican party would self-destruct, as conservatives
left and the party ends up looking like Democrats, just like following
Theodore Roosevelt.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
Are you pushing one of the preachers? A religious head of state would
almost be as bad a Hillary,
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Why McCain or Romney Will Lose the Next Election (Dems makebetter Dems) |
04 Feb 2008 11:09:09 PM |
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On Feb 4, 7:34 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It is a deluded fantasy to think that McCain or Romney could win the
next election. I don't need a long explanation to tell you why. It
comes down to two simple points...
1. Democrats make better democrats. What I mean by this is that in a
political battle between a Democrat liberal and a Republican liberal,
Democrats are going to stick with their own candidate..why should they
accept a copy instead of an original?
2. Hard Core Conservatives will not follow McCain. Some may betray
their principles for the party, but those committed to conservatism
will simply not vote, if the choice is between a liberal Republican
and a liberal Democrat.
So, McCain will not end up with a majority of EITHER the Democrat or
Republican vote and will be relying (almost exclusively) upon
independents to win the election. If he were somehow to win the
election, the republican party would self-destruct, as conservatives
left and the party ends up looking like Democrats, just like following
Theodore Roosevelt.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
I guess I hit a nerve.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Tom Sr." |
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| Title: Re: Huckabee Winning GOP States. *WRONG* *WRONG* WRONG* (Was: WhyMcCain or Romney Will Lose the Next Election) |
04 Feb 2008 04:14:48 PM |
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On Jan 16, 8:32 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here are the primaries that have happened so far, the winners, and
whether they went for Bush in 2004 or not...
Jan 4th -Iowa -Huckabee, the state went for Bush in 2004
Jan 8th -New Hampshire - McCain, the state went for Kerry in 2004
Jan 15th - Michigan - Romney, the state went for Kerry in 2004
... upcoming
Jan 19th - South Carolina -Huckabeeleads, the state went for Bush in
2004
IfHuckabeewins the South Carolina primary, he will continue the
trend of winning GOP states, while Romney and McCain will have each
won a Democrat state. However, it isHuckabeethat is winning the
states in the heart of the Republican party.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
Kenneth Clifton = ChristianSuperFool
-Tom Sr.
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