Politics > Politics-USA > Why people can't drive cheap all electric vehicles, Chevron controls the worldwide patent rights for NIMH batteries used in the RAV4-EV, and won't allow their use in Electric Vehicles (EVs)
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03 Nov 2007 09:31:44 PM |
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Why people can't drive cheap all electric vehicles, Chevron controls the worldwide patent rights for NIMH batteries used in the RAV4-EV, and won't allow their use in Electric Vehicles (EVs) |
"Chevron controls the worldwide patent rights for NIMH batteries used
in the RAV4-EV, and won't allow their use in EVs (Electric
Vehicles)."
Unfortunately, plug-in hybrids are forced to use lead-acid or lithium
batteries, and it's no accident. Electric car batteries must be able
to put out enough power to run the EV without an engine, be able to
"deep cycle" for acceptable range (over 100 miles on a charge), and
must have long "cycle life" of at least 1000 to 2000 fill-ups (over
100,000 miles, and usually over 200,000 miles, before the batteries
need replacement).
The existing and proven EV-95 NiMH battery from Panasonic, which lasts
longer than the life of the car, has adequate power for acceleration
without an Internal Combustion ("IC") engine, and can drive an EV at
80 mph for up to 120 miles, went into production in Jan., 1997. These
batteries are powerful enough to run an EV from start to 80 mph and
for over 100 miles, and have cycle life of at least 1500 -- over
150,000 miles before they need replacement.
Prototype EV1 named "Impact" delivered in 1989 for a budget of about
$3M.
This is the Electric car GM CEO Roger Smith drove into the L.A. Auto
Show, although many others were involved in its creation including
AeroVironment, John F. Smith, Robert Stempel, et al.
California's 1990 ZEV mandate forced GM and other auto makers to
produce Battery Electric cars such as the GM EV1. GM purchased control
of the patents from the inventor, Stan and the late Iris Ovshinsky, in
1994 forming "GM Ovonics" under the guise of going into production
with the EV1. But GM's Andy Card had been fighting Electric cars for
years, and GM's true intention became apparent when on Oct. 10, 2000,
GM agreed to sell their control of the EV batteries to Texaco. Less
than a week later, on Oct. 16, 2000, only days after Texaco acquired
control of the batteries, Chevron agreed to purchase Texaco in a $100
billion merger. Chevron announced the merger even though the GM sale
of the batteries to what would become Chevron did not close until July
17, 2000. Perhaps Chevron wanted this sale to be announced prior to
the merger so it would not look like Chevron (formerly Standard Oil of
California) worked directly with GM.
GM and Chevron collaborated with Toyota-Panasonic in such a way that
these batteries were killed, and no such NiMH batteries are available
for EVs. Chevron, awash in oil profits, assets and cash reserves,
claims that "it's a chicken and egg problem" of "no demand", but that
does not explain why they sued Panasonic, extracting $30,000,000.
Shortly thereafter, the EV-95 line of proven, NiMH batteries still
running in the RAV4-EV was shut down and killed, and the batteries
cannot be sold or imported into the USA, according to one Toyota
spokesperson. Only a few used EV-95, salvaged from crushed vehicles,
are available, and those only for warranty replacement on existing
RAV4-EV. Toyota won't sell even these used batteries to EV converters,
who need long-lasting, reliable batteries and can't get them.
"A senior Chevron executive was quoted off-the-record as saying that
Chevron was determined not to go down the BEV path again and never to
let that happen again in the automotive industry, at least not with
NiMH batteries." Chevron, by virtue of its purchase, apparently wants
cars to be powered by gasoline and not by NiMH batteries large enough
to drive cars from electric plug-in power.
Chevron's unit that controls the patents, cobasys, refuses to sell
their version of the battery unless, they say, they get "a large OEM
order". Apparently, they also refuse to let anyone else sell it,
either.
Auto and oil industry detractors -- "oilliars" -- claim that "the
batteries are not ready" for a plug-in Prius. They hope you don't know
about the existing, still-running 2002 Toyota RAV4-EV, which operates
entirely on batteries with no help from any Internal Combustion ("IC")
component. It's easy to add a small engine-generator to this proven
EV, and have an instant plug-in hybrid that runs like an EV for 100
miles, and then relies on the generator (like a diesel-electric
locomotive, and they are very powerful). Over 1000 RAV4-EV are running
far over 100,000 miles with EV-95 NiMH deep-cycling as the only power
source for the RAV4-EV.
A real Plug-In Serial Hybrid is an Electric car, with a powerful
electric motor as its only source of motive power, and with batteries
capable of normal driving in EV-only mode for at least 100 miles. This
Serial Plug-In Hybrid is just an EV with a small engine-generator for
long trips or unusual occasions when you can't plug in somewhere.
Similar to the Diesel-Electric locomotive, the engine's only use is to
generate electric for the drive motor.
Phony Plug-in hybrids are of the parallel hybrid variety, where the
engine is used as the primary source of motive power and the motor and
batteries are just used to start off, or to boost acceleration. They
work, but are still gasoline cars at high speed; even worse, without
viable and cost-effective batteries, they are just another libel on
Electric cars. The lithium batteries in the plug-in prius cost
something like $14,000 for 9 kWh, about six times the equivalent cost
of NiMH, and even more expensive when you consider that NiMH last
longer than the life os the car -- even a Toyota car -- while the
lithium batteries are untried and unproven.
The big difference is that the Serial Plug-In Hybrid allows you to run
normal driving without gasoline or oil, but the phony plug-in hybrid
still requires that you buy gasoline for your daily run. Guess which
one the oil and auto companies will try to confuse you with? Right,
they will try to push the Phony Plug-In Hybrid or, even worse, the
Phony Hybrid that can't even plug in.
In all cases, the lithium batteries may not last as long as the NiMH,
and render the plug-in option prohibitively expensive. AQMD and CARB
must be acquainted with the need for NiMH batteries. So far, ONLY NiMH
batteries are proven to be economicial.
Even if a NiMH pack costs $25000, and even if it only lasts 200,000
miles, that's only 12.5 cents per mile; and for those with solar
systems, the electric "fuel" is free of further cost. In a pure EV or
a serial plug-in hybrid, you can normally drive "oil-free". It's this
possibility that seems to bother oil execs.
The plug-in Prius, using Lithium batteries, still requires you to buy
gasoline (the engine turns on when the catalytic converter is cold, or
if the speed is greater than 33 mph, burning gasoline.
Chevron and its auto company proxies can kill the idea of plug-in
hybrids: obscure the issue, and bring out "dual-mode" and parallel
hybrids that can limp along at 40 mph on a small electric motor for 10
miles and re-charge its batteries with a big diesel engine. They are
not frightened of lithium-powered plug-in hybrids, and since they have
control of and have eliminated the use of large-format NiMH batteries,
they have no worries ... unless the oil party were to lose an
election, of course. A responsible president and prudent Congress
could force Chevron to disgorge control of the batteries, and could
force auto makers to produce a plug-in serial hybrid for sale on the
free market.
Oil and auto company claims that "no one wants an EV" ring hollow when
the full cost of gasoline, mostly subsidized by the Taxpayer, is taken
into account.
Demand release of this patent from Cheveron and driviving will become
affordable again!
If your outraged at this, contact Congress and demand they do whatever
they can to allow us the right to cheap transportation.
Phone, Email, or Visit your Senators and Congressmen at their offices
in your state and or in Washington D.C.
You could make the difference and turn this country back to its
citizens.
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=355645#355645
SPREAD THE MESSAGE AROUND! E-mail this to your family, friends, and
associates.
This website lists e-mail addresses of all the staffers assigned to
the various congressmen and senators.
http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html
United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121
Toll Free Congressional Switchboard Number
800-862-5530
877-851-6437
866-220-0044
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your
Government when it deserves it"
-Mark Twain
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| Title: Why people can't drive cheap all electric vehicles, Chevron controls the worldwide patent rights for NIMH batteries used in the RAV4-EV, and won't allow their use in Electric Vehicles (EVs) |
03 Nov 2007 09:50:36 PM |
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"Chevron controls the worldwide patent rights for NIMH batteries used
in the RAV4-EV, and won't allow their use in EVs (Electric Vehicles)."
Unfortunately, plug-in hybrids are forced to use lead-acid or lithium
batteries, and it's no accident. Electric car batteries must be able
to put out enough power to run the EV without an engine, be able to
"deep cycle" for acceptable range (over 100 miles on a charge), and
must have long "cycle life" of at least 1000 to 2000 fill-ups (over
100,000 miles, and usually over 200,000 miles, before the batteries
need replacement).
The existing and proven EV-95 NiMH battery from Panasonic, which
lasts longer than the life of the car, has adequate power for
acceleration without an Internal Combustion ("IC") engine, and can
drive an EV at 80 mph for up to 120 miles, went into production in
Jan., 1997. These batteries are powerful enough to run an EV from
start to 80 mph and for over 100 miles, and have cycle life of at
least 1500 -- over 150,000 miles before they need replacement.
Prototype EV1 named "Impact" delivered in 1989 for a budget of about
$3M. This is the Electric car GM CEO Roger Smith drove into the L.A.
Auto Show, although many others were involved in its creation
including AeroVironment, John F. Smith, Robert Stempel, et al.
California's 1990 ZEV mandate forced GM and other auto makers to
produce Battery Electric cars such as the GM EV1. GM purchased control
of the patents from the inventor, Stan and the late Iris Ovshinsky, in
1994 forming "GM Ovonics" under the guise of going into production
with the EV1. But GM's Andy Card had been fighting Electric cars for
years, and GM's true intention became apparent when on Oct. 10, 2000,
GM agreed to sell their control of the EV batteries to Texaco. Less
than a week later, on Oct. 16, 2000, only days after Texaco acquired
control of the batteries, Chevron agreed to purchase Texaco in a $100
billion merger. Chevron announced the merger even though the GM sale
of the batteries to what would become Chevron did not close until July
17, 2000. Perhaps Chevron wanted this sale to be announced prior to
the merger so it would not look like Chevron (formerly Standard Oil of
California) worked directly with GM.
GM and Chevron collaborated with Toyota-Panasonic in such a way that
these batteries were killed, and no such NiMH batteries are available
for EVs. Chevron, awash in oil profits, assets and cash reserves,
claims that "it's a chicken and egg problem" of "no demand", but that
does not explain why they sued Panasonic, extracting $30,000,000.
Shortly thereafter, the EV-95 line of proven, NiMH batteries still
running in the RAV4-EV was shut down and killed, and the batteries
cannot be sold or imported into the USA, according to one Toyota
spokesperson. Only a few used EV-95, salvaged from crushed vehicles,
are available, and those only for warranty replacement on existing
RAV4-EV. Toyota won't sell even these used batteries to EV converters,
who need long-lasting, reliable batteries and can't get them.
"A senior Chevron executive was quoted off-the-record as saying that
Chevron was determined not to go down the BEV path again and never to
let that happen again in the automotive industry, at least not with
NiMH batteries." Chevron, by virtue of its purchase, apparently wants
cars to be powered by gasoline and not by NiMH batteries large enough
to drive cars from electric plug-in power.
Chevron's unit that controls the patents, cobasys, refuses to sell
their version of the battery unless, they say, they get "a large OEM
order". Apparently, they also refuse to let anyone else sell it,
either.
Auto and oil industry detractors -- "oilliars" -- claim that "the
batteries are not ready" for a plug-in Prius. They hope you don't know
about the existing, still-running 2002 Toyota RAV4-EV, which operates
entirely on batteries with no help from any Internal Combustion ("IC")
component. It's easy to add a small engine-generator to this proven
EV, and have an instant plug-in hybrid that runs like an EV for 100
miles, and then relies on the generator (like a diesel-electric
locomotive, and they are very powerful). Over 1000 RAV4-EV are running
far over 100,000 miles with EV-95 NiMH deep-cycling as the only power
source for the RAV4-EV.
A real Plug-In Serial Hybrid is an Electric car, with a powerful
electric motor as its only source of motive power, and with batteries
capable of normal driving in EV-only mode for at least 100 miles. This
Serial Plug-In Hybrid is just an EV with a small engine-generator for
long trips or unusual occasions when you can't plug in somewhere.
Similar to the Diesel-Electric locomotive, the engine's only use is to
generate electric for the drive motor.
Phony Plug-in hybrids are of the parallel hybrid variety, where the
engine is used as the primary source of motive power and the motor and
batteries are just used to start off, or to boost acceleration. They
work, but are still gasoline cars at high speed; even worse, without
viable and cost-effective batteries, they are just another libel on
Electric cars. The lithium batteries in the plug-in prius cost
something like $14,000 for 9 kWh, about six times the equivalent cost
of NiMH, and even more expensive when you consider that NiMH last
longer than the life os the car -- even a Toyota car -- while the
lithium batteries are untried and unproven.
The big difference is that the Serial Plug-In Hybrid allows you to
run normal driving without gasoline or oil, but the phony plug-in
hybrid still requires that you buy gasoline for your daily run. Guess
which one the oil and auto companies will try to confuse you with?
Right, they will try to push the Phony Plug-In Hybrid or, even worse,
the Phony Hybrid that can't even plug in.
In all cases, the lithium batteries may not last as long as the NiMH,
and render the plug-in option prohibitively expensive. AQMD and CARB
must be acquainted with the need for NiMH batteries. So far, ONLY NiMH
batteries are proven to be economicial.
Even if a NiMH pack costs $25000, and even if it only lasts 200,000
miles, that's only 12.5 cents per mile; and for those with solar
systems, the electric "fuel" is free of further cost. In a pure EV or
a serial plug-in hybrid, you can normally drive "oil-free". It's this
possibility that seems to bother oil execs.
The plug-in Prius, using Lithium batteries, still requires you to buy
gasoline (the engine turns on when the catalytic converter is cold, or
if the speed is greater than 33 mph, burning gasoline.
Chevron and its auto company proxies can kill the idea of plug-in
hybrids: obscure the issue, and bring out "dual-mode" and parallel
hybrids that can limp along at 40 mph on a small electric motor for 10
miles and re-charge its batteries with a big diesel engine. They are
not frightened of lithium-powered plug-in hybrids, and since they have
control of and have eliminated the use of large-format NiMH batteries,
they have no worries ... unless the oil party were to lose an
election, of course. A responsible president and prudent Congress
could force Chevron to disgorge control of the batteries, and could
force auto makers to produce a plug-in serial hybrid for sale on the
free market.
Oil and auto company claims that "no one wants an EV" ring hollow
when the full cost of gasoline, mostly subsidized by the Taxpayer, is
taken into account.
Demand release of this patent from Cheveron and driving will become
affordable again!
If your outraged at this, contact Congress and demand they do
whatever they can to allow us the right to cheap transportation.
Phone, Email, or Visit your Senators and Congressmen at their offices
in your state and or in Washington D.C.
You could make the difference and turn this country back to its
citizens.
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=355645#355645
SPREAD THE MESSAGE AROUND! E-mail this to your family, friends, and
associates.
This website lists e-mail addresses of all the staffers assigned to
the various congressmen and senators.
http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html
United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121
Toll Free Congressional Switchboard Number
800-862-5530
877-851-6437
866-220-0044
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your
Government when it deserves it"
-Mark Twain
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