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User: "Ramabriga"
Date: 31 Dec 2007 12:05:19 AM
Object: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut
Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048
Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg
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User: "What Me Worry?"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 31 Dec 2007 01:02:31 AM
"Ramabriga" <Ramabriga@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg

Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of facts
and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we can find
more info to back it up.
At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in current
9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the official lies. Once
again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.
.
User: "Animal02"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 31 Dec 2007 07:38:52 AM
"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
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"Ramabriga" <Ramabriga@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of facts
and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we can find
more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in current
9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the official lies. Once
again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.

<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet after 6
yeaars, still not one iota of evidence
.
User: "What Me Worry?"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 02 Jan 2008 12:23:09 PM
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"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
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"Ramabriga" <Ramabriga@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we can
find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in current
9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the official lies.
Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet after 6
yeaars, still not one iota of evidence

Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is that,
you lying sack of *****?
Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________
Or admit that you're an idiot.
.
User: "Animal02"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 02 Jan 2008 06:08:15 PM
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"Ramabriga" <Ramabriga@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in current
9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the official lies.
Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet after 6
yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.

<YAWN> Troofers make the claims, troofers need to provide the
evidence.....still waiting after six years.



.
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Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 07:36:02 PM
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"Ramabriga" <Ramabriga@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims

The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3 times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say "the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even self-consistent,
let alone proven.
What do you think caused the WTC towers to collapse (be specific)? And what
proof do you offer to support that positive assertion?
Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________
Or admit that you can't, and you have nothing.
.
User: "Al Dykes"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 08:30:09 PM
In article <RZSdnW7mWfmfCuDanZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@comcast.net>,
What Me Worry? <__@____.___> wrote:


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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3 times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say "the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even self-consistent,
let alone proven.

None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.
Lawyers and mathematicians use the word, "proof". Scientists and
engineers rarely do. Twoofers use "proof" much to much and they don't
have a clue what the difference is between a proof and a theory.
We don't have "proof" for exactly why the Titanic sank or two space
shuttles crashed or why the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapsed.
We have theories. Good theories fit the available evidence.
Newton's Gravity is a good but imperfect theory.
The theories proposed by NIST do a good, not perfect job of explaining
the available evidence and the unknowns don't call for man-made
explosives to explain.
Experts are still debating and updating their theories as to why the
Tacoma Narrows bridge collapsed in 1940 even though it gave lots of
early warning and the engineers were watching and filming it. [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4558032966304637954
[1] Source: Why Buildings Fall Down by Levy & Salvadori (2002) Page 118.
.
User: "Animal02"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 08:41:07 PM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3 times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.



None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

Lawyers and mathematicians use the word, "proof". Scientists and
engineers rarely do. Twoofers use "proof" much to much and they don't
have a clue what the difference is between a proof and a theory.

We don't have "proof" for exactly why the Titanic sank or two space
shuttles crashed or why the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapsed.

We have theories. Good theories fit the available evidence.

Newton's Gravity is a good but imperfect theory.

The theories proposed by NIST do a good, not perfect job of explaining
the available evidence and the unknowns don't call for man-made
explosives to explain.

Experts are still debating and updating their theories as to why the
Tacoma Narrows bridge collapsed in 1940 even though it gave lots of
early warning and the engineers were watching and filming it. [1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4558032966304637954


[1] Source: Why Buildings Fall Down by Levy & Salvadori (2002) Page 118.

But we do have proofs and evidence that support the theory
-Steel weakens from heat
-Office fires can reach tempertures that weaken steel
-Steel buildings collpase from fire
-Seismic records showing the time of collapse
-aircraft parts from the planes that crashed
-bodies and DNA from the passengers.
etc. etc. etc.
.

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Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 09:49:01 PM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3 times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>
Ok, let me make this even simpler:
You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened, don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.
Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting neatly-severed multi-ton chunks of
giant steel columns and girders for hundreds of feet horizontally, as
clearly seen in the news footage. What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust
that rapidly boiled upward and outward from the collapsing Towers, burying
much of Lower Manhattan in a thick layer of pulverized material? How did
the top of the Towers fall to the ground in approximately 10 seconds, when
they were standing straight and steady up until the moment that each was
demolished?
If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause the
observed phenomena described above. Don't forget to show your math for the
collapse speed (approximations for inertia will be OK for this exercise).
Is that clear enough?
.
User: "Animal02"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 11:03:08 PM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3 times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe
it's the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting neatly-severed multi-ton chunks of
giant steel columns and girders for hundreds of feet horizontally, as
clearly seen in the news footage.

Why would anyone "think" something happened that didn't

What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust

Your proof that the clouds were hot..........provide the temperature records
for the clouds, along with the calibration tests of the equipment used.

that rapidly boiled upward and outward from the collapsing Towers, burying
much of Lower Manhattan in a thick layer of pulverized material?

Do you have a clue regarding how many thousands of board feet of gyp there
was in the two towers?

How did the top of the Towers fall to the ground in approximately 10
seconds,

Troofers like to ignore reality and make claims like the 10 sec collapse
myth.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5

when they were standing straight and steady up until the moment that each
was demolished?

Gravity is funny that way.


If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause the
observed phenomena described above.

Cripes, I've posted this countless times.
Manual of Steel Construction 7th addition -Part 6, page 10 - Effect of Heat
on Steel read it some time.
Concepts in Building Firesafety -1978 - M DAvid Egan - Page 26
http://www.aisc.org/Content/ContentGroups/Documents/ePubs_Innovative_Ideas/FactsForSteelBuildingsFire.pdf

Don't forget to show your math for the collapse speed (approximations for
inertia will be OK for this exercise).

No math needed, but here is some for you
http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm


Is that clear enough?

It will never be clear to you



.
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Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 04 Jan 2008 12:19:50 AM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have
a theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened.
Maybe it's the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting neatly-severed multi-ton chunks of
giant steel columns and girders for hundreds of feet horizontally, as
clearly seen in the news footage.


Why would anyone "think" something happened that didn't

I wouldn't. Why would you, liar?

What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust


Your proof that the clouds were hot

They moved upward, carrying their significant mass. The temperatures have
been calculated; but I can't find the website right now. Somebody did a
precise analysis of the energies in the clouds. You wouldn't understand
anyway - pearls to swain.

that rapidly boiled upward and outward from the collapsing Towers,
burying much of Lower Manhattan in a thick layer of pulverized material?


Do you have a clue regarding how many thousands of board feet of gyp there
was in the two towers?

Do you have a clue how gravity alone could pulverize all those board feed of
gypsum to fine powder and fling it all over Lower Manhattan for many blocks
in all directions?
No, you don't.

How did the top of the Towers fall to the ground in approximately 10
seconds,


Troofers like to ignore reality

What's a "troofer?" Is that like an ignorant drooling 9/11 shill who
ignores proven facts and lives in a dream world?

when they were standing straight and steady up until the moment that each
was demolished?


Gravity is funny that way.

You seem proud of your profound ignorance. Burger flipping probably doesn't
make too many demands on your brain.

If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause the
observed phenomena described above.


Cripes, I've posted this countless times.
Manual of Steel Construction 7th addition -Part 6, page 10 - Effect of
Heat

Gee, I don't see anything in there about forceful ejection of steel beams,
pulverization of building materials or free-fall collapse.

Don't forget to show your math for the collapse speed (approximations for
inertia will be OK for this exercise).


No math needed

Once more, the halfwit shill runs away from the simple equations that
shatter their myths.
.
User: "Animal02"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 06 Jan 2008 05:54:16 PM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have
a theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened.
Maybe it's the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them
to explode outward, forcefully ejecting neatly-severed multi-ton chunks
of giant steel columns and girders for hundreds of feet horizontally, as
clearly seen in the news footage.


Why would anyone "think" something happened that didn't


I wouldn't. Why would you, liar?

What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust


Your proof that the clouds were hot


They moved upward, carrying their significant mass. The temperatures have
been calculated; but I can't find the website right now.

In other words, you have no proof. "Caluculated" is not moron.

Somebody did a precise analysis of the energies in the clouds. You
wouldn't understand anyway - pearls to swain.

Saw that garage, it wasn't even close to being correct. But I am not
surprised troofers swallow it whole.


that rapidly boiled upward and outward from the collapsing Towers,
burying much of Lower Manhattan in a thick layer of pulverized material?


Do you have a clue regarding how many thousands of board feet of gyp
there was in the two towers?


Do you have a clue how gravity alone could pulverize all those board feed
of gypsum to fine powder and fling it all over Lower Manhattan for many
blocks in all directions?

Yes, but obviously you don't . Keep displaying your kookery, it is quite
entertaining,


No, you don't.

How did the top of the Towers fall to the ground in approximately 10
seconds,


Troofers like to ignore reality


What's a "troofer?" Is that like an ignorant drooling 9/11 shill who
ignores proven facts and lives in a dream world?

Troofers haven't found one "proven fact" to support their kookery.


when they were standing straight and steady up until the moment that each
was demolished?


Gravity is funny that way.


You seem proud of your profound ignorance. Burger flipping probably
doesn't make too many demands on your brain.

Projecting again?
It is a typical troofer trait.

If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause the
observed phenomena described above.


Cripes, I've posted this countless times.
Manual of Steel Construction 7th addition -Part 6, page 10 - Effect of
Heat


Gee, I don't see anything in there about forceful ejection of steel beams,
pulverization of building materials or free-fall collapse.

<snicke> so what did it saw moron?


Don't forget to show your math for the collapse speed (approximations
for inertia will be OK for this exercise).


No math needed


Once more, the halfwit shill runs away from the simple equations that
shatter their myths.

Once again a troofer makes demandyet cannot provide evidence of their own
claims.
The "show the math" mantra of the troofers is the last gasp of a failed
religion.



.

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Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 04 Jan 2008 08:15:38 AM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have
a theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened.
Maybe it's the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting neatly-severed multi-ton chunks of
giant steel columns and girders for hundreds of feet horizontally, as
clearly seen in the news footage.


Why would anyone "think" something happened that didn't


I wouldn't. Why would you, liar?

What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust


Your proof that the clouds were hot


They moved upward, carrying their significant mass. The temperatures have
been calculated; but I can't find the website right now. Somebody did a
precise analysis of the energies in the clouds. You wouldn't understand
anyway - pearls to swain.

that rapidly boiled upward and outward from the collapsing Towers,
burying much of Lower Manhattan in a thick layer of pulverized material?


Do you have a clue regarding how many thousands of board feet of gyp there
was in the two towers?


Do you have a clue how gravity alone could pulverize all those board feed of
gypsum to fine powder and fling it all over Lower Manhattan for many blocks
in all directions?

Yup. Wind can do that. the vast majority of the dust was to the south
of WTC, which by amazing coincidence was the direction of teh wind on
9/11. There was a plume of dust over NY Harbor which is to the south
of WTC. I was there. It should tell you something that eyewitnesses
to WTC haven't signed up in the "Truth Movement"
Every shock driven by the upper part hitting the lower part made the
whole tower shake like jello. Shock waves travel in steel at about
15,000 ft/sec while, as Twoofers correctly point out, the fastest
anything was moving due to gravity was in the last second and was a
couple hundred ft/sec. The building was destroying itself faster than
it could fall.
Twoofers seem to think that the collapse was 110 inelastic collisions,
like like dominoes falling. It was much more like a bullet hitting
jello, sending the shock and it's effects ahead of the bullet.


No, you don't.

How did the top of the Towers fall to the ground in approximately 10
seconds,

Gravity.
Nobody heard any man-made explosion at WTC on 9/11,
.



User: "Al Dykes"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 10:04:31 PM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3 times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened, don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting

Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.
"neatly-severed multi-ton chunks"
you've been watching too mant twoofer videos
I saw a few truckloads every morning as the steel was being trucked
off. "neat" wasn't a word that came to mind except where the beams
were cut into trunk-length sections bythe steelworkers.

clearly seen in the news footage. What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust

Who says the clouds weer hot? Nobidy that was enveloped by any of it.

If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause
the observed phenomena described above. Don't forget to show your
math for the

Before the collapse the cloud was smoke from the fires. As shown in
videos of teh moment of collapse, fire rages in the worts right up to
the end.
When the collapse started the cloud was mostly crumbled concrete used
in the floors.
Nobody can says that the towers collapsed too fast in any way that
makes sense to the vast majority of people with relevant expertise.
.
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Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 10:38:27 PM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting



Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.

The same forces that cause a billard ball to angle to the right when hitting
another ball is why materail flew away from the building
The same forces that cause pieces of a toothpick to fly away wehn you bend
it between two fingers




"neatly-severed multi-ton chunks"

you've been watching too mant twoofer videos

I saw a few truckloads every morning as the steel was being trucked
off. "neat" wasn't a word that came to mind except where the beams
were cut into trunk-length sections bythe steelworkers.



clearly seen in the news footage. What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust



Who says the clouds weer hot? Nobidy that was enveloped by any of it.


If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause
the observed phenomena described above. Don't forget to show your
math for the


Before the collapse the cloud was smoke from the fires. As shown in
videos of teh moment of collapse, fire rages in the worts right up to
the end.

When the collapse started the cloud was mostly crumbled concrete used
in the floors.

I beleive that the clouds of dust were mostly made up of gypsum board and
fiber glass. Concrete was a small percentage of the composition


Nobody can says that the towers collapsed too fast in any way that
makes sense to the vast majority of people with relevant expertise.


.
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have
a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting


Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.


The same forces that cause a billard ball to angle to the right when
hitting another ball is why materail flew away from the building
The same forces that cause pieces of a toothpick to fly away wehn you bend
it between two fingers

I just love it when these halfwits start with their little homespun wisdom.
Facts couldn't possibly be important when we've got it all figgered out!
ROFL!!
.
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long
as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here:
_____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have
a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe
it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them
to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting


Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.


The same forces that cause a billard ball to angle to the right when
hitting another ball is why materail flew away from the building
The same forces that cause pieces of a toothpick to fly away wehn you
bend it between two fingers


I just love it when these halfwits start with their little homespun
wisdom.

In other words, you have no rebuttal

Facts couldn't possibly be important when we've got it all figgered out!

That would be the troofer mantra.


ROFL!!

.


User: "Al Dykes"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 10:53:03 PM
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Animal02 <Wherewereyou@Wednsday.com> wrote:


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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting



Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.


The same forces that cause a billard ball to angle to the right when hitting
another ball is why materail flew away from the building
The same forces that cause pieces of a toothpick to fly away wehn you bend
it between two fingers





"neatly-severed multi-ton chunks"

you've been watching too mant twoofer videos

I saw a few truckloads every morning as the steel was being trucked
off. "neat" wasn't a word that came to mind except where the beams
were cut into trunk-length sections bythe steelworkers.



clearly seen in the news footage. What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust



Who says the clouds weer hot? Nobidy that was enveloped by any of it.


If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause
the observed phenomena described above. Don't forget to show your
math for the


Before the collapse the cloud was smoke from the fires. As shown in
videos of teh moment of collapse, fire rages in the worts right up to
the end.

When the collapse started the cloud was mostly crumbled concrete used
in the floors.


I beleive that the clouds of dust were mostly made up of gypsum board and
fiber glass. Concrete was a small percentage of the composition

You are probably right. The floors were said to be 3 inches thick.
For 110 floors that would 330 inche, about 30 ft of the 1300 ft
height.
The problems is that when all you've got is YouTube, a single pixel on
a Twoofer screen would be a chunk of something big enough to crush a
car.
.


User: "What Me Worry?"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 03 Jan 2008 11:28:16 PM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting



Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.

You didn't answer my simple questions. You have not yet offered any
positive assertions. We still don't know what YOU think CAUSED the collapse
to occur, and caused it to continue, and why/how the WTC towers collapsed in
approximately 10 seconds each (close to free fall speed).

"neatly-severed multi-ton chunks"

you've been watching too mant twoofer videos

No idea what you're babbling about; but huge sections of steel girders and
columns from the WTC towers were *embedded* in neighboring buildings
hundreds of feet away from the collapse. Human bone fragments were found on
*top* of neighboring buildings. How did they get there?
Do you dispute this? I have numerous sources at the ready if you need
convincing.

I saw a few truckloads every morning as the steel was being trucked
off. "neat" wasn't a word that came to mind except where the beams
were cut into trunk-length sections bythe steelworkers.

I see. So you have nothing.

clearly seen in the news footage. What caused the huge, hot clouds of dust

<irrelevant drivel snipped>

If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause
the observed phenomena described above. Don't forget to show your
math for the


Before the collapse the cloud was smoke from the fires.

That's not the cloud being discussed, and you know it.

As shown in
videos of teh moment of collapse, fire rages in the worts right up to
the end.

The fires had been all but completely extinguished prior to the WTC
demolitions, as proven time and time again from multiple camera angles.
Survivors were walking through the areas that had been on fire, and are seen
standing in the burned-out crash sites - their clothes and hair unsinged,
leaning against the exposed steel frame (the one that was supposedly hot
enough to cause a total building failure).
STILL no positive assertions about the WTC collapses - only desperate lies.

When the collapse started the cloud was mostly crumbled concrete used
in the floors.

The dust that covered much of Lower Manhattan has been analysed. It
contains concrete, asbestos, gypsum, fiberglass and other materials.
Essentially, it was composed of almost everything that wasn't steel. And
the dust was very fine - pulverized to a flour-like consistency.
Additionally, video evidence clearly shows that the buildings were being
pulverized in mid-air - *before they began falling to the ground.*
How does a fire-induced collapse cause this to happen?

Nobody can says that the towers collapsed too fast in any way that
makes sense to the vast majority of people with relevant expertise.

This is a nonsensical statement. The Towers fell as fast as they fell. That
speed has been precisely calculated. ALL theories MUST explain THE actual
speed of collapse, or they are IN ERROR. Is that too much for your tiny
brain to comprehend?
I'm still waiting for you to tell us why and how the WTC towers collapsed.
You don't seem to be able to do that.
.
User: "Animal02"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 04 Jan 2008 12:23:23 AM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long as
we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here: _____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have
a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting



Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.


You didn't answer my simple questions. You have not yet offered any
positive assertions. We still don't know what YOU think CAUSED the
collapse to occur, and caused it to continue, and why/how the WTC towers
collapsed in approximately 10 seconds each (close to free fall speed).

"neatly-severed multi-ton chunks"

you've been watching too mant twoofer videos


No idea what you're babbling about; but huge sections of steel girders and
columns from the WTC towers were *embedded* in neighboring buildings
hundreds of feet away from the collapse.

Gravity is an amzing force to the cluless troofers

Human bone fragments were found on *top* of neighboring buildings. How did
they get there?

Momentum from the aircraft crash and animals are the two likely canidates.


Do you dispute this? I have numerous sources at the ready if you need
convincing.

I saw a few truckloads every morning as the steel was being trucked
off. "neat" wasn't a word that came to mind except where the beams
were cut into trunk-length sections bythe steelworkers.


I see. So you have nothing.

That would be you that has nothing


clearly seen in the news footage. What caused the huge, hot clouds of
dust

<irrelevant drivel snipped>

If you think it was caused by fire, then show how fire could cause
the observed phenomena described above. Don't forget to show your
math for the


Before the collapse the cloud was smoke from the fires.


That's not the cloud being discussed, and you know it.

As shown in
videos of teh moment of collapse, fire rages in the worts right up to
the end.


The fires had been all but completely extinguished prior to the WTC
demolitions, as proven time and time again from multiple camera angles.

Only to twoofers who ignor the countless other videos that show the fire
burning up to the point of collapse
The flames shooting out are obvious......extinguished fires don't do that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP6MlrfbCvQ&feature=related

Survivors were walking through the areas that had been on fire, and are
seen standing in the burned-out crash sites - their clothes and hair
unsinged, leaning against the exposed steel frame (the one that was
supposedly hot enough to cause a total building failure).

As typical, the ignorant troofer trrys to make the extrodanary out of the
ordinary. Fire is funny, it consumes materials and moves on. The ordinary
is the fact that the origin points of the fire died out first. The building
faliure happened across the floor plate, not at one single location


STILL no positive assertions about the WTC collapses - only desperate
lies.

That would be the troofer movement.


When the collapse started the cloud was mostly crumbled concrete used
in the floors.


The dust that covered much of Lower Manhattan has been analysed. It
contains concrete, asbestos, gypsum, fiberglass and other materials.
Essentially, it was composed of almost everything that wasn't steel. And
the dust was very fine - pulverized to a flour-like consistency.

That is what dust is, the sample did not include rubble and larger debris

Additionally, video evidence clearly shows that the buildings were being
pulverized in mid-air - *before they began falling to the ground.*

Only in troofer make believe land. Realists see large chucks of building
falling along with the dust cloud.


How does a fire-induced collapse cause this to happen?

Nobody can says that the towers collapsed too fast in any way that
makes sense to the vast majority of people with relevant expertise.


This is a nonsensical statement. The Towers fell as fast as they fell.
That speed has been precisely calculated. ALL theories MUST explain THE
actual speed of collapse, or they are IN ERROR. Is that too much for your
tiny brain to comprehend?

Only troofers make such nonsensical claims


I'm still waiting for you to tell us why and how the WTC towers collapsed.
You don't seem to be able to do that.

Structural damage and fire........how many more times will you ignore
reality?



.
User: "What Me Worry?"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 04 Jan 2008 12:34:56 AM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long
as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once again. As if that hadn't been done enough yet.


<YAWN> How mny times have kooks made that claim before, and yet
after
6 yeaars, still not one iota of evidence


Yes, k00ks such as yourself have no evidence after 6 years. Why is
that,
you lying sack of *****?

Put your evidence (and sources) here:
_____________________________

Or admit that you're an idiot.


<YAWN> Troofers make the claims


The official hypothesis of the WTC collapses has changed at least 3
times
since the morning of 9/11/01. Thus it is not sufficient to simply say
"the
official story is correct." The official story isn't even
self-consistent,
let alone proven.


None of the difference in hypothesis require any man-made explosives
to explain.

<desperate side-stepping and doubletalk mercy-snipped>

Ok, let me make this even simpler:

You've seen the videos of the WTC collapses, right? You presumably have
a
theory about the WTC demolitions. You *think* you know what happened,
don't
you? That's what we want to know - what YOU believe happened. Maybe
it's
the official version, maybe not. Whatever.

Ok. Tell us what you think happened to the WTC towers that caused them
to
explode outward, forcefully ejecting



Nobody heard any explosions when the collpases started. no video
camera captured any sound consistant with man-made explosives.


You didn't answer my simple questions. You have not yet offered any
positive assertions. We still don't know what YOU think CAUSED the
collapse to occur, and caused it to continue, and why/how the WTC towers
collapsed in approximately 10 seconds each (close to free fall speed).

"neatly-severed multi-ton chunks"

you've been watching too mant twoofer videos


No idea what you're babbling about; but huge sections of steel girders
and columns from the WTC towers were *embedded* in neighboring buildings
hundreds of feet away from the collapse.


Gravity is an amzing force to the cluless troofers

Gravity is amazing; but I'm betting you have no idea why. Have you studied
quantum physics? Didn't think so.

Survivors were walking through the areas that had been on fire, and are
seen standing in the burned-out crash sites - their clothes and hair
unsinged, leaning against the exposed steel frame (the one that was
supposedly hot enough to cause a total building failure).


As typical, the ignorant troofer trrys to make the extrodanary out of the
ordinary. Fire is funny, it consumes materials and moves on. The
ordinary is the fact that the origin points of the fire died out first.
The building faliure happened across the floor plate, not at one single
location

You still can't follow simple instructions.
Are you saying that fire caused the collapse? OK, that's a start. Are you
claiming that gravity caused the 10-ton+ steel girders to be hurled hundreds
of feed from the WTC towers? Now were getting somewhere.
Now you get to provide the math to back up these assertions. If you don't
like the 10-second collapse time, then show us conclusive evidence for
another number (13 sec? whatever).
You didn't forget about the dozens of eyewitnesses and video footage showing
molten metal did you? We don't know how much molten metal, exactly, but it
was molten for at least 4 weeks (according to multiple witnesses). There
are NASA satellite photos proving that the *surface* temperature of the WTC
debris piles was at least 1,300 F. So account for that in your
calculations.
I look forward to your fact-based, math-validated positive collapse
hypothesis!!
<snicker>
.
User: "Al Dykes"

Title: Re: Why this is not in Loose Change Final Cut 04 Jan 2008 07:51:42 AM
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Loose change final Cut
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

Here is what Loose change have missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg


Interesting. Like Loose Change, this video presents a thin layer
of
facts and draws grand assertions from them. That's OK, as long
as we
can find more info to back it up.

At the very least, this video fills in some speculative holes in
current 9/11 investigations, while blowing the lid off of the
official
lies. Once