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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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28 Mar 2007 02:42:37 PM |
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Why were the WTC bluepriints leaked in the last few days?? |
As the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the hour, i suspect the leak is to give
all the "experts" who gave us the pancake theory a way to explain their
blatant lies. Now they can say " Hey wow - these aren't like the
blueprints they showed up 5 years ago."
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| User: "Billary/2008" |
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| Title: Re: Why were the WTC bluepriints leaked in the last few days?? |
28 Mar 2007 02:53:57 PM |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:NyzOh.17574$tD2.14522@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
As the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the hour, i suspect the leak is to give
all the "experts" who gave us the pancake theory a way to explain their
blatant lies. Now they can say " Hey wow - these aren't like the
blueprints they showed up 5 years ago."
Only idiots like you are claiming that "the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the
hour". You're going to go to your grave mumbling some idiotic crap, while
foam dribbles down the corner of your mouth, about how Bush brought down the
WTC. That's pitiful.
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| User: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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28 Mar 2007 08:16:17 PM |
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Billary/2008 wrote:
Only idiots like you are claiming that "the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the
hour". You're going to go to your grave mumbling some idiotic crap, while
foam dribbles down the corner of your mouth, about how Bush brought down the
WTC. That's pitiful.
You're wasting your time, billary. You were exposed as a paid govt
shill long ago.
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| User: "Dufus Muffetes $5,000" |
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| Title: Re: Why were the WTC bluepriints leaked in the last few days?? |
28 Mar 2007 06:02:01 PM |
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Billary/2008 wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:NyzOh.17574$tD2.14522@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
As the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the hour, i suspect the leak is to give
all the "experts" who gave us the pancake theory a way to explain their
blatant lies. Now they can say " Hey wow - these aren't like the
blueprints they showed up 5 years ago."
Only idiots like you are claiming that "the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the
hour". You're going to go to your grave mumbling some idiotic crap, while
foam dribbles down the corner of your mouth, about how Bush brought down the
WTC. That's pitiful.
True story, about the only thing that's crumbling by
the hour now is the Bush Administration, isn't it?
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| Title: Re: Why were the WTC bluepriints leaked in the last few days?? |
28 Mar 2007 10:22:24 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:42:37 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
As the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the hour,
What's crumbling is your sanity.
--
I'm on a journey in search of myself.
If I get back first, let me know that I'm
looking for myself and don't let me leave.
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| User: "the_blogologist" |
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| Title: Re: Why were the WTC bluepriints leaked in the last few days?? |
28 Mar 2007 07:30:43 PM |
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
As the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the hour, i suspect the leak is to give
all the "experts" who gave us the pancake theory a way to explain their
blatant lies. Now they can say " Hey wow - these aren't like the
blueprints they showed up 5 years ago."
The WTC is standing firmer than your rhetoric.
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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28 Mar 2007 04:48:29 PM |
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
As the 9/11 cover-up crumbles by the hour, i suspect the leak is to give
all the "experts" who gave us the pancake theory a way to explain their
blatant lies.
I don't believe that to be likely. I don't fully dismiss the possibility of
ulterior motive. In this mad world, we need to remain ever vigilant
against artful deception. My primary reason for suspecting that the
release of the blueprints was not intended to aid the promulgators of the
OCT is that the blueprints represent substantive truth which will, without
a doubt, strengthen the existing controlled demolition models.
Now they can say " Hey wow - these aren't like the
blueprints they showed up 5 years ago."
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest, and
otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological warfare
tactics used against us.
For me, the question of whether the WTC was destroyed by controlled
demolition has been decisively resolved to the affirmative. I have moved
on to the exercise of identifying the perpetrators and the motives. That
leads me to the conclusion that perhaps the biggest single contributing
factor to the 9/11/01 state sponsored domestic terrorist attacks was the
illegal drug trade.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ek5w_wtc7-the-smoking-gun-of-911-updated
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://vehme.blogspot.com
Virtus Tutissima Cassis
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| User: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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28 Mar 2007 08:19:38 PM |
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Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest, and
otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological warfare
tactics used against us.
I don't buy that. The problems with the official story on 9/11 have
been obvious right from the start. The experts who supported the
official story knew all along that they were backing a lie.
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| User: "" |
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28 Mar 2007 10:25:08 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:38 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest, and
otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological warfare
tactics used against us.
I don't buy that. The problems with the official story on 9/11 have
been obvious right from the start.
Only to those who accept the voices in their heads as authoritative.
There's a line between "healthy skepticism" and "paranoia" and you
kooks can't even see that in your rear view mirrors anymore.
--
I'm on a journey in search of myself.
If I get back first, let me know that I'm
looking for myself and don't let me leave.
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| User: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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28 Mar 2007 11:39:07 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:38 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest, and
otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological warfare
tactics used against us.
I don't buy that. The problems with the official story on 9/11 have
been obvious right from the start.
Only to those who accept the voices in their heads as authoritative.
There's a line between "healthy skepticism" and "paranoia" and you
kooks can't even see that in your rear view mirrors anymore.
As usual, you don't address the issue but instead "respond" with
childish namecalling. A sure sign of desperation.
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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28 Mar 2007 09:27:45 PM |
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest, and
otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological warfare
tactics used against us.
I don't buy that. The problems with the official story on 9/11 have
been obvious right from the start. The experts who supported the
official story knew all along that they were backing a lie.
This is a complex issue about which I have some inside information. There
are very good reasons to believe that the researchers who produced the FEMA
report were coerced and manipulated to produce the report they finally
submitted. Nonetheless, they quietly included the smoking gun in Appendix
C.
Some people may well have intentionally and willingly produced fraudulent
engineering analyses. Here are some candidates.
<quote>
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cutter_charges_brought_down_wt.html
Thomas W. Eagar of MIT refused to even look at the paper and said there is
no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC. Challenged with the
evidence, he hung up the phone.
Zdenek P. Bazant of Northwestern University submitted his fire-induced
collapse theory to the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) two days
after 9-11, without examining any evidence. Asked if he would review
Jones?s paper, Bazant also refused, ?I have seen Jones?s fiction before. If
you want my private opinion, it is nothing but sensationalism,? he
said. ?His purported refutation of my analysis is baseless.?
Asked to simply look at five photos in an e-mail showing the cascading
molten metal and core columns, which appear to have been cut with thermite,
Bazant responded, ?I do not have time.?
Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, an Iranian-born professor at Berkeley, who was a
member of the ASCE team studying the WTC collapse, also refused to look at
Jones?s paper.
?I will not be able to find time to review the material that you have sent
me,? said Astaneh-Asl.
</quote>
OTOH, I know a very experienced retired senior structural engineer who
simply accepted the findings of the ASCE because he is a life member, and
refused to believe the members of his Society would have produced a report
as flawed as the one they did produce. It took me months and months of
persistent prodding to get him to reconsider the matter. Of course, once
he did take the time to examine the evidence, he had to conclude the
buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.
The release of the blueprints will do little to vindicate the people who
produced the flawed analyses. It merely mocks their professionalism to
pretend to draw informed and authoritative conclusions without examining
the essential evidence.
Regarding the FEMA report, look into the fate of Kurt and Nancy Sonnenfeld
for a plausible motive for skewing their findings. It's Gary Web and
Hunter S. Thompson all over again.
--
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ek5w_wtc7-the-smoking-gun-of-911-updated
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://vehme.blogspot.com
Virtus Tutissima Cassis
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| User: "Vandar" |
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29 Mar 2007 11:27:56 AM |
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Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest, and
otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological warfare
tactics used against us.
I don't buy that. The problems with the official story on 9/11 have
been obvious right from the start. The experts who supported the
official story knew all along that they were backing a lie.
This is a complex issue about which I have some inside information.
*****
There
are very good reasons to believe that the researchers who produced the FEMA
report were coerced and manipulated to produce the report they finally
submitted. Nonetheless, they quietly included the smoking gun in Appendix
C.
Some people may well have intentionally and willingly produced fraudulent
engineering analyses. Here are some candidates.
<quote>
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cutter_charges_brought_down_wt.html
Thomas W. Eagar of MIT refused to even look at the paper and said there is
no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC. Challenged with the
evidence, he hung up the phone.
Because there is no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC.
There was *something* puring out. That you would call it molten metal
without any analysis whatsoever just shows that you are willing to
swallow the conspiracy hook, line, and sinker.
Zdenek P. Bazant of Northwestern University submitted his fire-induced
collapse theory to the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) two days
after 9-11, without examining any evidence. Asked if he would review
Jones?s paper, Bazant also refused, ?I have seen Jones?s fiction before. If
you want my private opinion, it is nothing but sensationalism,? he
said. ?His purported refutation of my analysis is baseless.?
Asked to simply look at five photos in an e-mail showing the cascading
molten metal and core columns, which appear to have been cut with thermite,
Bazant responded, ?I do not have time.?
People who work at universities tend to be a little busy for such
things. When they have time to fabricate silly, baseless theories for
events far outside their area of expertise, they usually end up not
working for a university.
Jones can tell you more about that.
Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, an Iranian-born professor at Berkeley, who was a
member of the ASCE team studying the WTC collapse, also refused to look at
Jones?s paper.
?I will not be able to find time to review the material that you have sent
me,? said Astaneh-Asl.
Good for him.
</quote>
OTOH, I know a very experienced retired senior structural engineer who
simply accepted the findings of the ASCE because he is a life member, and
refused to believe the members of his Society would have produced a report
as flawed as the one they did produce. It took me months and months of
persistent prodding to get him to reconsider the matter. Of course, once
he did take the time to examine the evidence, he had to conclude the
buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.
*****.
Name him.
The release of the blueprints
floor plans
will do little to vindicate the people who
produced the flawed analyses. It merely mocks their professionalism to
pretend to draw informed and authoritative conclusions without examining
the essential evidence.
Regarding the FEMA report, look into the fate of Kurt and Nancy Sonnenfeld
for a plausible motive for skewing their findings. It's Gary Web and
Hunter S. Thompson all over again.
It's ***** conspiracy theory all over again. They claim Sonnenfeld
was the only videographer allowed to film at ground zero. Steve Spak
proves that wrong.
As stated by her husband and family, and proven by the note she left
behind, Nancy committed suicide.
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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29 Mar 2007 12:24:18 PM |
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Vandar wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest,
and otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological
warfare tactics used against us.
I don't buy that. The problems with the official story on 9/11 have
been obvious right from the start. The experts who supported the
official story knew all along that they were backing a lie.
This is a complex issue about which I have some inside information.
*****
My statement was completely factual.
There
are very good reasons to believe that the researchers who produced the
FEMA report were coerced and manipulated to produce the report they
finally
submitted. Nonetheless, they quietly included the smoking gun in
Appendix C.
Some people may well have intentionally and willingly produced fraudulent
engineering analyses. Here are some candidates.
<quote>
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cutter_charges_brought_down_wt.html
Thomas W. Eagar of MIT refused to even look at the paper and said there
is no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC. Challenged with the
evidence, he hung up the phone.
Because there is no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC.
Not even NIST tried to refute the fact that there was molten metal flowing
from WTC 2:
http://baldur.globalsymmetry.com/fact911/molten-steel/
There was *something* puring out. That you would call it molten metal
without any analysis whatsoever just shows that you are willing to
swallow the conspiracy hook, line, and sinker.
I've done the analysis, and I have the scientific background to do so.
BTW, are you one of those nut-cases who believes there was no conspiracy
behind the events of 9/11/01?
Zdenek P. Bazant of Northwestern University submitted his fire-induced
collapse theory to the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) two
days after 9-11, without examining any evidence. Asked if he would review
Jones?s paper, Bazant also refused, ?I have seen Jones?s fiction before.
If you want my private opinion, it is nothing but sensationalism,? he
said. ?His purported refutation of my analysis is baseless.?
Asked to simply look at five photos in an e-mail showing the cascading
molten metal and core columns, which appear to have been cut with
thermite, Bazant responded, ?I do not have time.?
People who work at universities tend to be a little busy for such
things. When they have time to fabricate silly, baseless theories for
events far outside their area of expertise, they usually end up not
working for a university.
Jones can tell you more about that.
Especially when the likes of the ADL start ringing the dean's office talking
about funding issues.
Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, an Iranian-born professor at Berkeley, who was a
member of the ASCE team studying the WTC collapse, also refused to look
at Jones?s paper.
?I will not be able to find time to review the material that you have
sent me,? said Astaneh-Asl.
Good for him.
It would appear that he also didn't have time to locate and examine the
blueprints for the structure upon which he was pontificating.
</quote>
OTOH, I know a very experienced retired senior structural engineer who
simply accepted the findings of the ASCE because he is a life member, and
refused to believe the members of his Society would have produced a
report
as flawed as the one they did produce. It took me months and months of
persistent prodding to get him to reconsider the matter. Of course, once
he did take the time to examine the evidence, he had to conclude the
buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.
*****.
Name him.
Call (202) 225-0100 and ask whether what I say is true.
The release of the blueprints
floor plans
It's more than floor plans.
will do little to vindicate the people who
produced the flawed analyses. It merely mocks their professionalism to
pretend to draw informed and authoritative conclusions without examining
the essential evidence.
Regarding the FEMA report, look into the fate of Kurt and Nancy
Sonnenfeld
for a plausible motive for skewing their findings. It's Gary Web and
Hunter S. Thompson all over again.
It's ***** conspiracy theory all over again. They claim Sonnenfeld
was the only videographer allowed to film at ground zero. Steve Spak
proves that wrong.
As stated by her husband and family, and proven by the note she left
behind, Nancy committed suicide.
CIA assisted suicide, no doubt.
--
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ek5w_wtc7-the-smoking-gun-of-911-updated
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://vehme.blogspot.com
Virtus Tutissima Cassis
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29 Mar 2007 04:39:38 PM |
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Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Vandar wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
I really don't believe it was a CYA for the shills. A lot of honest,
and otherwise intelligent people were deceived by the psychological
warfare tactics used against us.
I don't buy that. The problems with the official story on 9/11 have
been obvious right from the start. The experts who supported the
official story knew all along that they were backing a lie.
This is a complex issue about which I have some inside information.
*****
My statement was completely factual.
And completely unsubstantiated.
There
are very good reasons to believe that the researchers who produced the
FEMA report were coerced and manipulated to produce the report they
finally
submitted. Nonetheless, they quietly included the smoking gun in
Appendix C.
Some people may well have intentionally and willingly produced fraudulent
engineering analyses. Here are some candidates.
<quote>
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cutter_charges_brought_down_wt.html
Thomas W. Eagar of MIT refused to even look at the paper and said there
is no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC. Challenged with the
evidence, he hung up the phone.
Because there is no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC.
Not even NIST tried to refute the fact that there was molten metal flowing
from WTC 2:
http://baldur.globalsymmetry.com/fact911/molten-steel/
"a stream of liquid-like material"
"glowing liquid"
"falling liquid"
"liquid flow"
"It has been reported in the FEMA report (McAllister 2002) as well as in
the media that what appeared to be molten metal was observed pouring
from the north face near the northeast corner."
You conspiracists really need to stop taking "it was reported..." and
"what appeared to be..." to be conclusive evidence of what something is.
That's 90% of the problem you clowns have.
You don't want to know the other 10%.
There was *something* puring out. That you would call it molten metal
without any analysis whatsoever just shows that you are willing to
swallow the conspiracy hook, line, and sinker.
I've done the analysis, and I have the scientific background to do so.
BTW, are you one of those nut-cases who believes there was no conspiracy
behind the events of 9/11/01?
What difference does it make what I believe? We're discussing what you
claim are facts.
Zdenek P. Bazant of Northwestern University submitted his fire-induced
collapse theory to the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) two
days after 9-11, without examining any evidence. Asked if he would review
Jones?s paper, Bazant also refused, ?I have seen Jones?s fiction before.
If you want my private opinion, it is nothing but sensationalism,? he
said. ?His purported refutation of my analysis is baseless.?
Asked to simply look at five photos in an e-mail showing the cascading
molten metal and core columns, which appear to have been cut with
thermite, Bazant responded, ?I do not have time.?
People who work at universities tend to be a little busy for such
things. When they have time to fabricate silly, baseless theories for
events far outside their area of expertise, they usually end up not
working for a university.
Jones can tell you more about that.
Especially when the likes of the ADL start ringing the dean's office talking
about funding issues.
Another unsubstantiated claim.
Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, an Iranian-born professor at Berkeley, who was a
member of the ASCE team studying the WTC collapse, also refused to look
at Jones?s paper.
?I will not be able to find time to review the material that you have
sent me,? said Astaneh-Asl.
Good for him.
It would appear that he also didn't have time to locate and examine the
blueprints for the structure upon which he was pontificating.
Yet another unsubstantiated claim.
</quote>
OTOH, I know a very experienced retired senior structural engineer who
simply accepted the findings of the ASCE because he is a life member, and
refused to believe the members of his Society would have produced a
report
as flawed as the one they did produce. It took me months and months of
persistent prodding to get him to reconsider the matter. Of course, once
he did take the time to examine the evidence, he had to conclude the
buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.
*****.
Name him.
Call (202) 225-0100 and ask whether what I say is true.
I didn't ask for Nancy Pelosi's phone number.
Name the "very experienced retired senior structural engineer" that you
convinced the WTC was a controlled demolition.
The release of the blueprints
floor plans
It's more than floor plans.
will do little to vindicate the people who
produced the flawed analyses. It merely mocks their professionalism to
pretend to draw informed and authoritative conclusions without examining
the essential evidence.
Regarding the FEMA report, look into the fate of Kurt and Nancy
Sonnenfeld
for a plausible motive for skewing their findings. It's Gary Web and
Hunter S. Thompson all over again.
It's ***** conspiracy theory all over again. They claim Sonnenfeld
was the only videographer allowed to film at ground zero. Steve Spak
proves that wrong.
As stated by her husband and family, and proven by the note she left
behind, Nancy committed suicide.
CIA assisted suicide, no doubt.
And you finish up with even more unsubstantiated *****.
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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29 Mar 2007 05:47:58 PM |
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Vandar wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Vandar wrote:
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Not even NIST tried to refute the fact that there was molten metal
flowing from WTC 2:
http://baldur.globalsymmetry.com/fact911/molten-steel/
"a stream of liquid-like material"
"glowing liquid"
"falling liquid"
"liquid flow"
"It has been reported in the FEMA report (McAllister 2002) as well as in
the media that what appeared to be molten metal was observed pouring
from the north face near the northeast corner."
You conspiracists really need to stop taking "it was reported..." and
"what appeared to be..." to be conclusive evidence of what something is.
That's 90% of the problem you clowns have.
You don't want to know the other 10%.
I never said I was using the NIST report as my sole, or even primary source.
You really should learn to distinguish between the presentation of evidence
and the drawing of conclusions. Your assertion was that "there is no
evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC."
There was *something* puring out. That you would call it molten metal
without any analysis whatsoever just shows that you are willing to
swallow the conspiracy hook, line, and sinker.
I've done the analysis, and I have the scientific background to do so.
BTW, are you one of those nut-cases who believes there was no conspiracy
behind the events of 9/11/01?
What difference does it make what I believe? We're discussing what you
claim are facts.
You seem to be derisive of any notion of "conspiracy". What was it the guy
from the CIA said? "You know there have never been any Conspiracies In
America".
Zdenek P. Bazant of Northwestern University submitted his fire-induced
collapse theory to the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) two
days after 9-11, without examining any evidence. Asked if he would
review Jones?s paper, Bazant also refused, ?I have seen Jones?s fiction
before. If you want my private opinion, it is nothing but
sensationalism,? he said. ?His purported refutation of my analysis is
baseless.?
Asked to simply look at five photos in an e-mail showing the cascading
molten metal and core columns, which appear to have been cut with
thermite, Bazant responded, ?I do not have time.?
People who work at universities tend to be a little busy for such
things. When they have time to fabricate silly, baseless theories for
events far outside their area of expertise, they usually end up not
working for a university.
Jones can tell you more about that.
Especially when the likes of the ADL start ringing the dean's office
talking about funding issues.
Another unsubstantiated claim.
<quote>
BYU's Jones denies bias
By Tad Walch
Deseret Morning News
PROVO ? Stung by what he said are false accusations of anti-Semitism,
Brigham Young University physics professor Steven Jones said Wednesday he
has decided to stop talking about who might have been behind what he has
alleged was government involvement in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks.
"That's what I've resolved for the future, even when pushed," Jones
told the Deseret Morning News. "I'll stick with the science, thank you."
Jones began last year to research the physics behind the way the World
Trade Center towers fell. Disturbed by the remarkable speed with which they
fell and emboldened by his own experiments on ground zero materials, he
developed a hypothesis that the collapse of the towers was aided by
pre-positioned demolition charges. He later began to say the charges must
have been set by a group inside the U.S. government.
BYU placed Jones on paid leave last week, in part for what it
called "the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these
statements by Dr. Jones."
The action came two days after Jones appeared on KUER-FM 90.1's
respected news talk show "Radio West." On the show, he said it appeared
responsibility for the attacks rested with Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle
and an "international banking cartel."
The statement drew immediate response from Jews who said they were
offended because references to international banking have for decades been
used by anti-Semitic groups as codespeak to blame Jews for various
problems. Hitler often blamed "international financiers" for Germany's debt
after World War I.
A spokesman for the Anti-Defamation League said he will recommend in a
committee meeting tomorrow that the ADL send a letter to BYU complaining
about the comments and expressing concern that such comments might be made
by Jones in his classes. BYU relieved Jones of his teaching load this
semester while it conducts a formal review of his research and statements.
"Wow, I don't know if he could be any clearer," said Jonathan
Bernstein, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League for California,
Utah and Hawaii. "This is the language we hear from David Duke and other
hatemongers who want to scapegoat Jews."
Jones was flummoxed by the accusation, saying he was "startled" when
told the phrase carried anti-Semitic overtones. He wasn't sure where he got
the phrase because he was referring to the work of Webster Tarpley, a
historian and member of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a group co-founded by
Jones. Tarpley refers only to a shadowy, rogue network, not to
international bankers.
"I'll name them as Tarpley names them," Jones said on KUER. "Wolfowitz
and Perle, in particular ? they do happen to be neocons ? but there is a
much larger group behind these (attacks) which is the international banking
cartel which controls trillions of dollars and which has an interest in
controlling countries in the Middle East which are not under their
control."
Jones said his reference to international banking might have been
influenced by Cleon Skousen, a former BYU instructor and author who claimed
international bankers were behind the rise of communism and fascism. Jones
shared his research on 9/11 at Skousen's home in the fall of 2005 before
Skousen died.
Jones said he regrets talking about who might have been behind the
attacks and from now on will leave that investigation to Tarpley and other
members of the self-named "9/11 truth movement." "In the past, numerous
times I deferred to those experts," Jones said. "This time I said, in my
opinion, (Tarpley's) right. But I also think that's way outside the
research I specialize in. I think it's smarter to leave the tasks of who
should be investigated to those who specialize in those things."
Instead, he'll concentrate on his research about evidence from ground
zero and the intriguing, unsettled questions about why the third World
Trade Center building, Building Seven, fell later on Sept. 11 without being
struck by a plane. A report by the National Institute of Standards and
Technology is due early next year.
Jones contends measurements he took of a sample of the molten metal
found under all three buildings show it is not aluminum from the planes nor
structural steel.
"I can be proven wrong," Jones said. "I accept that. But whoever does
it will have to explain this molten metal to me, and especially all the
barium found. That's nasty stuff that's not going to be used in a
building."
Jones said he doesn't blame Jews for the attacks.
"I had no idea this would be some sort of codespeak for
anti-Semitism," Jones said. "It is not right to link such a group to Jews."
Salt Lake Valley resident Scott Klepper said Jones' statements were
hurtful. "As a Jew, I view Jones' unsubstantiated conclusion as an affront
to the Jewish community, to BYU and to real researchers and academics."
</quote>
OTOH, I know a very experienced retired senior structural engineer who
simply accepted the findings of the ASCE because he is a life member,
and refused to believe the members of his Society would have produced a
report
as flawed as the one they did produce. It took me months and months of
persistent prodding to get him to reconsider the matter. Of course,
once he did take the time to examine the evidence, he had to conclude
the buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.
*****.
Name him.
Call (202) 225-0100 and ask whether what I say is true.
I didn't ask for Nancy Pelosi's phone number.
Name the "very experienced retired senior structural engineer" that you
convinced the WTC was a controlled demolition.
If your purpose is to verify the fact that such a person has come forward, I
gave you a means of doing so. I am not authorized to provide that person's
identity.
will do little to vindicate the people who
produced the flawed analyses. It merely mocks their professionalism to
pretend to draw informed and authoritative conclusions without examining
the essential evidence.
Regarding the FEMA report, look into the fate of Kurt and Nancy
Sonnenfeld
for a plausible motive for skewing their findings. It's Gary Web and
Hunter S. Thompson all over again.
It's ***** conspiracy theory all over again. They claim Sonnenfeld
was the only videographer allowed to film at ground zero. Steve Spak
proves that wrong.
That is not what Sonnenfeld claimed.
As stated by her husband and family, and proven by the note she left
behind, Nancy committed suicide.
CIA assisted suicide, no doubt.
And you finish up with even more unsubstantiated *****.
I suppose you accept that James Milam's death was a suicide as well.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ek5w_wtc7-the-smoking-gun-of-911-updated
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://vehme.blogspot.com
Virtus Tutissima Cassis
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THEY Werent. The History channel and discvery chanel showed them on their
9-11 specials 6 years ago you stupid pile of ***** cheese.
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Pelosi the Pig wrote:
THEY Werent. The History channel and discvery chanel showed them on their
9-11 specials 6 years ago you stupid pile of ***** cheese.
HAHA. Making stuff up again i see. You paid govt shills are so funny.
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