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"Loogie" |
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23 Mar 2007 07:51:59 AM |
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Why would God Bless America? |
Why would God Bless America?
© 2007 Loogie
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids fighting?
And what are they fighting for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
What happened to our country?
Why the Patriot Act?
Traded freedom for security
And you say there is nothing wrong with that.
Maybe you like Big Brother watchin’?
Only you know for sure
But why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why would God bless America
When America’ starting wars?
Why are our kids dieing?
And what are they dieing for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
It is time to end this craziness
The White House is insane
It time to bring home all our kids
And maybe, just maybe
God will bless America…again
© 2007 Loogie
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15 Apr 2007 09:26:23 PM |
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"Loogie" <boogieloogie@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eu0ihc$179$1@news.datemas.de...
Why would God Bless America?
© 2007 Loogie
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids fighting?
And what are they fighting for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
What happened to our country?
Why the Patriot Act?
Traded freedom for security
And you say there is nothing wrong with that.
Maybe you like Big Brother watchin’?
Only you know for sure
But why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why would God bless America
When America’ starting wars?
Why are our kids dieing?
And what are they dieing for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
It is time to end this craziness
The White House is insane
It time to bring home all our kids
And maybe, just maybe
God will bless America…again
© 2007 Loogie
thanks
mk5000
"Brown was a disaster, Curry a disappointment. At least the 6-11 Curry
now gets a chance at redemption as the Knicks report for training camp
today and attempt to erase the memory of last season's 23-59 epic
collapse. First practice is tomorrow under the specter of the Brown
contract-arbitration hearing in Manhattan."--marc berman
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15 Apr 2007 10:51:23 PM |
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On 16 Apr, 03:26, "marika" <marika5...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Loogie" <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Why would God Bless America?
=A9 2007 Loogie
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids fighting?
And what are they fighting for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
What happened to our country?
Why the Patriot Act?
Traded freedom for security
And you say there is nothing wrong with that.
Maybe you like Big Brother watchin'?
Only you know for sure
But why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids dieing?
And what are they dieing for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
It is time to end this craziness
The White House is insane
It time to bring home all our kids
And maybe, just maybe
God will bless America...again
=A9 2007 Loogie
thanks
mk5000
"Brown was a disaster, Curry a disappointment. At least the 6-11 Curry
now gets a chance at redemption as the Knicks report for training camp
today and attempt to erase the memory of last season's 23-59 epic
collapse. First practice is tomorrow under the specter of the Brown
contract-arbitration hearing in Manhattan."--marc berman- Hide quoted tex=
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- Show quoted text -
Funny and entertaing discussion. Made me laugh a lot, and be glad
there are people who still care about ideas!
--
'foolsrushin.'
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| User: "* US *" |
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16 Apr 2007 06:12:46 AM |
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On 16 Apr, 03:26, "marika" <marika5...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Loogie" <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eu0ihc$179$1@news.datemas.de...
Why would God Bless America?
© 2007 Loogie
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids fighting?
And what are they fighting for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
What happened to our country?
Why the Patriot Act?
Traded freedom for security
And you say there is nothing wrong with that.
Maybe you like Big Brother watchin'?
Only you know for sure
But why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids dying?
And what are they dying for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
It is time to end this craziness
The White House is insane
It time to bring home all our kids
And maybe, just maybe
God will bless America...again
© 2007 Loogie
thanks
mk5000
American troops are being killed so that American
taxpayers can be robbed by profiteering traitors.
"I Saw A Flag"
I saw a flag one evening
lying sodden on the ground
in the dark wind and cold rain
crumpled neglected and forgotten
I saw a flag the other day
flapping tattered to a fringe
on the antenna of a truck
cutting off a car in traffic
I saw a flag another time
plastered to the door
of a business closed
by mindless prejudice
I see the flag so much these days
I see it waved by the self-righteous
I see it waved by the vengeful
I see it waved by the violent
I want to see the flag flown high
in the light of reason
the glow of admiration
a pristine symbol of humanity
I hope to see the flag raised
by the equitable, the brave,
the benificent and astute,
bringing shared prosperity
I wish to see the flag saluted
with heartfelt respect
by free peaceful people
throughout the world
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| User: "Howard Duck" |
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16 Apr 2007 06:35:30 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:12:46 -0400, * US * wrote:
Why are our kids fighting?
And what are they fighting for?
They are fighting for the synagogue of Satan.
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| User: "hob" |
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23 Mar 2007 01:29:18 PM |
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I take it your view of God is not of one who rewards those who kill a commie
for Christ....
It does take a lot of faith thinking of God standing there smiling down on
an A-10 Warthog strafing a house with children huddled inside, with mom's
flesh blown on the walls from the heavy rounds.
Are you saying that when Christ said "Suffer the little children unto me" he
wasn't talking about soldiers blowing the kids' guts entirely out of their
bodies with a B-4 so they suffer before they die and meet Jesus?
Where is your faith that such events are actually God's will?
"Loogie" <boogieloogie@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eu0ihc$179$1@news.datemas.de...
Why would God Bless America?
© 2007 Loogie
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids fighting?
And what are they fighting for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
What happened to our country?
Why the Patriot Act?
Traded freedom for security
And you say there is nothing wrong with that.
Maybe you like Big Brother watchin’?
Only you know for sure
But why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why would God bless America
When America’ starting wars?
Why are our kids dieing?
And what are they dieing for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
It is time to end this craziness
The White House is insane
It time to bring home all our kids
And maybe, just maybe
God will bless America…again
© 2007 Loogie
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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25 Mar 2007 03:10:34 PM |
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"hob" <dehoberg@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:FZ6dnbH0GM-5k5nbnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@comcast.com...
I take it your view of God is not of one who rewards those who kill a
commie
for Christ....
It does take a lot of faith thinking of God standing there smiling down on
an A-10 Warthog strafing a house with children huddled inside, with mom's
flesh blown on the walls from the heavy rounds.
It takes an even greater leap of faith (usually brought out by long-term use
of recreational drugs) to believe that we are deliberately targeting
innocent women and children. Of course, when it's Muslim or Palestinian
suicide bombers DELIBERATELY targeting markets, buses, hospitals, and day
care centers (full of innocent women and children, or course) you don't hear
a WORD of outrage by the filty leftists - just blatherings about how they
are "insurgents" or "freedom fighters".
Typical double standard of Lefty Liberals: collateral deaths caused by US
military (who are not targeting non-combatants, and typically take care to
avoid such casualties) are somehow proof that we are a bunch of evil,
imperialistic murderers. OTOH, a Muslim DELIBERATELY targets women,
children, and other non-combatants through use of suicide bombs (now they
are using tanker trucks full of chlorine gas) and there's no sense of
outrage.
It should be pretty clear by now that the Lefty Liberals don't give a rat's
***** about whether innocent women and children get killed. It's about being
as anti-US as possible - and they are willing to crawl into bed with human
scum if that's what it takes to advance their agenda.
(rest of propagandistic ***** snipped for brevity)
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| User: "Defendario" |
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25 Mar 2007 05:54:05 PM |
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Stan de SD wrote:
"hob" <dehoberg@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:FZ6dnbH0GM-5k5nbnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@comcast.com...
I take it your view of God is not of one who rewards those who kill a
commie
for Christ....
It does take a lot of faith thinking of God standing there smiling down on
an A-10 Warthog strafing a house with children huddled inside, with mom's
flesh blown on the walls from the heavy rounds.
It takes an even greater leap of faith (usually brought out by long-term use
of recreational drugs) to believe that we are deliberately targeting
innocent women and children.
You aren't paying much attention, eh Stain?
Get a load of the images found here:
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album32
<CRAP FLUSHED>
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| User: "Loogie" |
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24 Mar 2007 12:16:11 AM |
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hob wrote:
I take it your view of God is not of one who rewards those who kill a commie
for Christ....
It does take a lot of faith thinking of God standing there smiling down on
an A-10 Warthog strafing a house with children huddled inside, with mom's
flesh blown on the walls from the heavy rounds.
Are you saying that when Christ said "Suffer the little children unto me" he
wasn't talking about soldiers blowing the kids' guts entirely out of their
bodies with a B-4 so they suffer before they die and meet Jesus?
Where is your faith that such events are actually God's will?
"Loogie" <boogieloogie@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eu0ihc$179$1@news.datemas.de...
Why would God Bless America?
© 2007 Loogie
Why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why are our kids fighting?
And what are they fighting for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
What happened to our country?
Why the Patriot Act?
Traded freedom for security
And you say there is nothing wrong with that.
Maybe you like Big Brother watchin’?
Only you know for sure
But why would God bless America
When America' starting wars?
Why would God bless America
When America’ starting wars?
Why are our kids dieing?
And what are they dieing for?
There is no honor in their mission
There is no honor in their name
There is no honor in so-called freedom fighting
There is only shame
It is time to end this craziness
The White House is insane
It time to bring home all our kids
And maybe, just maybe
God will bless America…again
© 2007 Loogie
God does not smile at killing for any reason.
L
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| User: "CRxx" |
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10 Jul 2007 11:13:52 AM |
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"Hertz Dount"
And yet your religion has been killing in the name of God for
centuries....
People kill people. The justification is always their own.
Don't blame it on religion if your religious, because that would be
wriggling out of the responsibility.
Don't blame religion if you are NOT religious, because that way you would
use something different for the same reason.
Christine!
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| User: "Hertz Dount" |
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10 Jul 2007 11:37:04 PM |
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"CRxx" <spam@christine.demon.nl> wrote in message
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"Hertz Dount"
And yet your religion has been killing in the name of God for
centuries....
People kill people. The justification is always their own.
Don't blame it on religion if your religious, because that would be
wriggling out of the responsibility.
Don't blame religion if you are NOT religious, because that way you would
use something different for the same reason.
Christine!
Then tell that to the millions killed in the name of Christianity. Tell
that to the millions killed in the name of Islam. Tell that to the millions
of Jews exterminated by Hitler.
Those that *pretend* that killing in the name of religion does not occur are
perpetuating it.
Honu
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| User: "CRxx" |
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11 Jul 2007 10:59:09 AM |
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"Hertz Dount"
Then tell that to the millions killed in the name of Christianity. Tell
that to the millions killed in the name of Islam. Tell that to the
millions
of Jews exterminated by Hitler.
They were killed by people. Religion does not make decisions. People do.
Those that *pretend* that killing in the name of religion does not occur
are
perpetuating it.
I know people say their religion sais they should pull a trigger when they
hold a gun to someones head. People say it is a law when they snuff out
someones candle. Some people use religion, some use other laws, but it is
always the people that kill. Not the law. Not the religion.
Christine!
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| User: "Hertz Dount" |
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11 Jul 2007 05:23:38 PM |
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"CRxx" <spam@christine.demon.nl> wrote in message
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"Hertz Dount"
Then tell that to the millions killed in the name of Christianity. Tell
that to the millions killed in the name of Islam. Tell that to the
millions
of Jews exterminated by Hitler.
They were killed by people. Religion does not make decisions. People do.
Those that *pretend* that killing in the name of religion does not occur
are
perpetuating it.
I know people say their religion sais they should pull a trigger when they
hold a gun to someones head. People say it is a law when they snuff out
someones candle. Some people use religion, some use other laws, but it is
always the people that kill. Not the law. Not the religion.
Christine!
You fail to understand that it is *religion* that is responsible for the
wholesale slaughter of billions in the history of humanity.
do you think that all of the killing that has occured in the name of
religion whould have occured without religion?
You desperately want to think that "people kill people". In the vast
majority of those cases, the killers ould not have killed unless being told
to do so by their "religion".
People kill people, but they don't just do it for no reason.
Honu
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| User: "CRxx" |
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12 Jul 2007 12:28:54 PM |
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"Hertz Dount"
You fail to understand that it is *religion* that is responsible for the
wholesale slaughter of billions in the history of humanity.
do you think that all of the killing that has occured in the name of
religion whould have occured without religion?
You desperately want to think that "people kill people". In the vast
majority of those cases, the killers ould not have killed unless being
told
to do so by their "religion".
People kill people, but they don't just do it for no reason.
You simple babble after every body that's stepped out of their religion. But
basically it is *****.
WWI was about religion?
WWII was about relgion?
Vietnam was about religion?
etcetera etcetera.
People are creative enough to find other reasons of killing each other.
Anything that seperates one group from another is good enough to fight a war
over.
When you think religion is a problem, you do not understand the magnitude of
the problem, and you might become part of it, if people start to kill of
people because they are religious. (I do remember religion being prohibited
in large parts of this planet last century, where this did happen.)
Christine!
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| User: "Hertz Dount" |
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12 Jul 2007 01:08:25 PM |
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"CRxx" <spam@christine.demon.nl> wrote in message
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"Hertz Dount"
You fail to understand that it is *religion* that is responsible for the
wholesale slaughter of billions in the history of humanity.
do you think that all of the killing that has occured in the name of
religion whould have occured without religion?
You desperately want to think that "people kill people". In the vast
majority of those cases, the killers ould not have killed unless being
told
to do so by their "religion".
People kill people, but they don't just do it for no reason.
You simple babble after every body that's stepped out of their religion.
But
basically it is *****.
You should not try to post in English. It is still beyond your scope. I
cannot even begin to decipher what you meant to say in the first sentence
abve. Your second sentence is a very valid description of the first.
WWI was about religion?
Politics and Religion.
Go look it up.
Milliosn died because of their religion.
WWII was about relgion?
No, WWII was about stopping two countries from decimating the planet.
Go look it up.
Millions died because of their religion.
Vietnam was about religion?
Vietnam was about politics and the domino effect.
Go look it up. Nearly half a million died in VN because of their religion.
People are still being killed in VN today because of their religion.
Look it up.
etcetera etcetera.
People are creative enough to find other reasons of killing each other.
No, people have been killing eeach other over the same things for ages.
Anything that seperates one group from another is good enough to fight a
war
over.
Not at all. There have been cases where differences were worked out without
resorting to war.
The Cuban Missile Crisis comes to mind.
When you think religion is a problem, you do not understand the magnitude
of
the problem, and you might become part of it,
Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Those that have their head up their asses, like you, are also bound to
repeat it.
if people start to kill of
people because they are religious. (I do remember religion being
prohibited
in large parts of this planet last century, where this did happen.)
And it still happens today. Every day. All over the world. But it's
okay...you just put your silly head back in the sand, or back up your *****,
which ever you prefer, so it won't bother you.
Christine!
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| User: "Raymond" |
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12 Aug 2007 07:17:43 PM |
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On Jul 12, 2:08?pm, "Hertz Dount" <somewh...@outhere.com> wrote:
"CRxx" <s...@christine.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:4696648e$0$10069$e4fe514c@dreader18.news.xs4all.nl...
"Hertz Dount"
You fail to understand that it is *religion* that is responsible for the
wholesale slaughter of billions in the history of humanity.
do you think that all of the killing that has occured in the name of
religion whould have occured without religion?
You desperately want to think that "people kill people". In the vast
majority of those cases, the killers ould not have killed unless being
told
to do so by their "religion".
People kill people, but they don't just do it for no reason.
You simple babble after every body that's stepped out of their religion.
But
basically it is *****.
You should not try to post in English. It is still beyond your scope. I
cannot even begin to decipher what you meant to say in the first sentence
abve. Your second sentence is a very valid description of the first.
WWI was about religion?
Politics and Religion.
Go look it up.
Milliosn died because of their religion.
WWII was about relgion?
No, WWII was about stopping two countries from decimating the planet.
Go look it up.
Millions died because of their religion.
Vietnam was about religion?
Vietnam was about politics and the domino effect.
Go look it up. Nearly half a million died in VN because of their religion.
People are still being killed in VN today because of their religion.
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year
ago."
---- Bernard Berenson
It was for oil that Americans went to Vietnam just like it was for oil
that we are in Iraq according to CIA files.
The American government claimed it was because of the Communist
idelogy Nonsense. It was for oil that put Americans into Vietnam just
like it was for oil that we are in Iraq.
The Communism idelogy had nothing tio do with Vietnam. That was the
excuse used on you poorly informed Americans to justify invading Nam.
America went into Vietnam for the same reason we are in Iraq---- for
oil. WE DIE FOR OIL !
The American oil companies (i.e. the American government) knew about
the vast oil supplies off of the coast of Vietnam since the late 1940s
and early 1950s and were determined to find a way to drill for it.
In 1945, Vietnam was still a colony of the French. Laurence
Rockefeller, it appears, had given the extensive store of weapons to
Ho Chi Minh with the hope that Vietnam would drive out the French so
that Standard Oil would be able to take over the as yet undeveloped
offshore fields. In 1954, Vietnamese General Giap finally defeated and
drove out the French at Dien Bien Phu with weaponry provided by the
U.S. However, Ho Chi Minh
reneged on the deal since he could read too, and he was well aware of
the Hoover resource report and knew there was a vast supply of oil off
the Vietnamese coast.
In the 1950's a method of undersea oil exploration was perfected which
used small explosions deep in the water and then recorded the sound
echoes bouncing off the various layers of rock below. The surveyor
could then determine the exact location of the arched salt domes which
hold the accumulated oil beneath them. But if this method were used
off the Vietnam coast on property Standard Oil didn't own or have the
rights to, the Vietnamese, the Chinese, the Japanese and probably even
the French would quickly run to the United Nations and complain that
America was stealing the oil, and that would shut down the operation.
In 1964, after Vietnam was divided into North and South, and the
contrived Gulf of Tonkin incident, several U.S. aircraft carriers were
stationed offshore
of Vietnam and the 'war' was started. Every day jet planes would take
off from the carriers, bomb locations in North and South Vietnam, and
then using normal military procedure when returning would dump their
unsafe or unused bombs in the ocean before landing back on the
carriers. Safe ordnance drop zones were designated for this purpose
away from the carriers.
Even close-up observers would only notice many small explosions
occurring daily in the waters of the South China Sea and thought it
was only part of the 'war.' The U.S. Navy carriers had begun Operation
Linebacker One, and Standard Oil had begun its ten year oil survey of
the
seabed off of Vietnam. And the Vietnamese, Chinese and everybody else
around, including the Americans, were none the wiser. The oil survey
hardly cost Standard Oil a nickel, the U.S. taxpayers paid for it.
So twenty years later and 57,000 Americans and half a million
Vietnamese dead, Standard Oil had enough data and the war in Vietnam
could end. Nelson Rockefeller's personal assistant, Henry Kissinger,
represented the U.S. at the Vietnam/Paris Peace talks and won a Nobel
Peace Prize in the bargain.
After the dust had settled from the war, Vietnam divided their
offshore
coastal area into numerous oil lots and allowed foreign companies to
bid on the lots, with the proviso that Vietnam got a percentage of
the
action. Norway's Statoil, British Petroleum, Royal Dutch Shell,
Russia,
Germany and Australia all won bids and began drilling within their
areas. Strange it was that none of them struck oil. However, the lots
which Standard Oil bid for and won proved to have vast oil reserves.
Their extensive undersea seismic research appears to have paid off.
Unfortunately, Big Oil's greed has not abated a whit.The American and
British rulers have a new imperialistic strategy by which they hope
to
gain total control of the world's energy supplies and the strategic
Eurasian land mass. First, they sell armaments to a regime (for
example, Panama, Iraq, Yugoslavia/Kosovo, Afghan/Pakistan/Taliban
Mujaheddin, Saudi Arabia). Then, they demonize the regime to which
they
sold the armaments and declare war on it (e.g. Panama Invasion, Gulf
War, UN Kosovo war, Afghanistan war, Iraq War). After the war, they
station permanent military bases in the country and use the military
bases to control the energy resources in the surrounding countries.
Current U.S. foreign policy is governed by the doctrine of "full-
spectrum dominance": the U.S. must control military, economic and
political developments everywhere.
"If you want to rule the world, you need to control oil. All the oil.
Anywhere."
Oil imperialism rests on our continued dependence on oil, which not
only threatens the future of humanity through prolonged and bloody
conflict, but through another even more insidious threat--climate
change and ecological collapse.
The real motives for the Bush administration's war in Afghanistan are
clear for all to see. The U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan, Wendy
Chamberlain, met with Pakistan's oil minister, Usman Aminuddin, in
January, 2002 to continue plans for the north-south pipeline,
encouraging the construction of Pakistan's Arabian Sea oil terminus
for the pipeline.
President Bush says our military will continue its presence in
Afghanistan, which means that while the U.N. forces serve as a
paramilitary police force, U.S. soldiers will be guarding the
construction of the north-south pipeline
Bush Sr.'s Gulf War in 1991 resulted in securing access to the huge
Rumaila oil field of southern Iraq by expanding the boundaries of
Kuwait after the war. This allows Kuwait, controlled by Standard Oil,
to double its prewar oil output.
Iraq, which recently discovered an oil field in its western desert,
is
widely regarded as having more oil than Saudi Arabia once its
deposits
are developed. Prior to the 2003 U.S. preemptive invasion of Iraq,
Iraq
was producing 3 million barrels a day, funneling most of it to world
markets through a United Nations-monitored program that directed the
proceeds to food and medicine for the Iraqi people. Saddam Hussein
was
still exporting his oil to Syria, which was glad to resell Iraqi oil
as
if it were Syrian. The United States was one of Syria's biggest
customers, because it liked the low sulfur content of Iraqi oil,
according to Nimrod Raphaeli, publisher of the Middle East Economic
News, a Washington-based newsletter. Iraq earned $1.5 billion a year
from oil smuggling and oil sales outside UN controls, through Syria,
Turkey, and Jordan, as well as by ship down the Gulf.
Beginning in September of 2001, the Bush regime threatened to include
Iraq in its "war on terrorism." Any incursion into Iraq had to deal
with the reality that American companies, such as Cheney's
Halliburton
and G.E. were making billions in Iraq by selling them goods and
services. Also, the difficulty that the eradication of the Saddam
Hussein regime would seriously compromise America's establishment of
bases on the Arabian peninsula on the pretext of protecting poor Arab
sheikhs against the Iraqi Evil Monster.
Prior to the 2003 Iraq war, Saddan was desperately trying to
ingratiate
himself with the Gulf Arab Cooperation Council (GCC) members:
Bahrain,
Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE)
to gain support for the lifting of the U.N. sanctions against it.
Russia, Iraq's closest U.N. Security Council ally and a major
beneficiary of contracts to purchase Iraqi oil and to sell Iraq
humanitarian supplies, was demanding "a comprehensive settlement" of
the sanctions issue, including steps leading to lifting the military
embargo against Iraq. On January 24, 2002, Russian Foreign Minister
Igor Ivanov made a formal statement that Moscow was opposed to any
U.S.
military operation against Iraq.
Russia's Lukoil Oil Company and two Russian government agencies had a
23-year contract to develop Iraq's West Qurna oil field. By the terms
of the contract, Lukoil was to get one half, Iraq one quarter, and
the
Russian government agencies were to get one quarter of the oil
field's
667 million tons of crude, potentially a $20 billion deal. Iraq still
owed Russia at least $8 billion from the old cold war days
when Russia armed Iraq, considering it a client state. Is it
any wonder that Russia opposed Bush's war on Iraq?
But because of United Nations sanctions on Iraq, Lukoil had not
pumped
a drop from West Qurna since it won drilling rights in 1997. In 2001,
Saddam gave Russia $1.3 billion in oil contracts under the United
Nations oil-for-food program that allowed Iraq to sell oil to buy
supplies to help Iraqi civilians. In September, 2001, Saddam
announced
plans to award Russian companies another $40 billion in contracts as
soon as United Nations sanctions were lifted.
In February, 2002, Russia's foreign minister, Igor S. Ivanov, said
that
Russia and Iraq saw eye to eye on questions of extremism and
terrorism
and that the American-backed sanctions against Iraq were
counterproductive and should be lifted. He then emphasized that
Russia
solidly opposed "spreading or applying the international antiterror
operation to any arbitrarily chosen state, including Iraq."
The 2003 Standard Oil-Bush junta war against Iraq ended all the prior
Iraqi agreements with nations such as Russia, Germany, and France.
The
opposition by these Eurasian nations to Dubya's preemptive attack on
Iraq was understandable--and Dubya's rush to war with Iraq now makes
sense.
Also to be considered in any plans to extend the Standard Oil/Bush
oil
imperialism is China's growing interest in supporting Middle-East
nations in their struggle against the U.S. During Jordanian King
Abdallah II's January, 2002 visit to China, Chinese President Jiang
Zemin said that China wanted stronger ties with Arab countries to
help
promote peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Yeah, sure, that's
the reason China wants to put its foot into the Middle East, to
promote
peace. China has supplied military weaponry to Pakistan and may
intervene if the Standard Oil/Bush imperialists continue to expand
their empire in the Middle East.
But the Standard Oil/Bush imperialists don't concern themselves with
the threat of China in the Middle East. They've seized control of
Iraq's oil and now have their eye on Syria's and Iran's oil as well.
We're now in phase two of the war on terrorism: invading countries
that Bush says harbor terrorists, with the real intent to seize those
countries' energy sources. And since U.S.-British a.k.a. Standard Oil
imperialism now--since 9/11--results in the killing of American
civilians, we can say that the next phase of the war on terrorism will
soon be at a theater near you.
The result:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/index.htm
"We don't do body counts."
Gen. Tommy Franks
SEE:
The New U.S.
-British Oil Imperialism
By Norman D. Livergood
http://www.new-enlightenment.com/impintro1.htm
SEE SOUTH CHINA SEA REGION - Spratly Islands
http:www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/schina.html
Shalom:
Netanyahu says Iraq-Israel oil line not pipe-dream
Haaretz Daily
June 20, 2003
Reuters
Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he expects an oil pipeline
from Iraq to Israel to be reopened in the near future after being
closed when Israel became a state in 1948. "It won't be long when you
will see Iraqi oil flowing to Haifa," the port city in Northern
Israel, Netanyahu told a group of British investors, declining to give
a timetable:
"It is just a matter of time until the pipleline is reconstituted and
Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean."
http://www.endgame.org/oilwarlinks-old.html
Look it up.
etcetera etcetera.
People are creative enough to find other reasons of killing each other.
No, people have been killing eeach other over the same things for ages.
Anything that seperates one group from another is good enough to fight a
war
over.
Not at all. There have been cases where differences were worked out without
resorting to war.
The Cuban Missile Crisis comes to mind.
When you think religion is a problem, you do not understand the magnitude
of
the problem, and you might become part of it,
Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Those that have their head up their asses, like you, are also bound to
repeat it.
if people start to kill of
people because they are religious. (I do remember religion being
prohibited
in large parts of this planet last century, where this did happen.)
And it still happens today. Every day. All over the world. But it's
okay...you just put your silly head back in the sand, or back up your *****,
which ever you prefer, so it won't bother you.
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12 Aug 2007 06:15:41 PM |
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On Jul 11, 10:37 am, "Hertz Dount" <somewh...@outhere.com> wrote:
"CRxx" <s...@christine.demon.nl> wrote in message
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"Hertz Dount"
And yet your religion has been killing in the name of God for
centuries....
People kill people. The justification is always their own.
Don't blame it on religion if your religious, because that would be
wriggling out of the responsibility.
Don't blame religion if you are NOT religious, because that way you would
use something different for the same reason.
Christine!
Then tell that to the millions killed in the name of Christianity. Tell
that to the millions killed in the name of Islam. Tell that to the millions
of Jews exterminated by Hitler.
Those that *pretend* that killing in the name of religion does not occur are
perpetuating it.
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that to the millions killed in the name of Islam.
MILLIONS killed in the name of Islam? Which history book did you get
that from?
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12 Aug 2007 07:55:36 PM |
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This is an excellent question now
Our politicians don't even care about many people now
People in our cities are ignored by press, millions unemployed. Rich made
rules to ensure the rich give the rest of us hd tv and the choices..
reporters seldom care about what the truth is or what the choices we want to
reflect on. People are meanspirited, and we offer many people welfare and
thats it. The sense of community has left us. People are out often enough to
get the most out of someone, drive craze and without care about others,
neglect other peoples suffering and its just a matter of time before they
stop paying disability and welfare. Then all chaos breaks out. We have more
violence then most wars going on now . We have millionaires vying for
election with reporters only covering if they get to ask the questions. We
still have it good with our hd and welfare state but its certainly not going
to last forever this way. We are defaulting to control instead of truth.
this is a great question by the way as our city has 3 full good days of air
out of 60, where going out here is like waddling in soup, needing asthma
meds and politicians and reporters ignore it all. This is what America has
become. Like the billboard says. If you can sell ice to eskimos we want
you..
Its all about control and being strong by knocking the little guy out ( tv
shows called kickboxing and wrestling) and not rating on bad people and more
power to energy companies and big corporations to coopt caring and doing the
right thing.
"if6065@yahoo.com" <if6065@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186960541.616887.159340@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 11, 10:37 am, "Hertz Dount" <somewh...@outhere.com> wrote:
"CRxx" <s...@christine.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:4693b018$0$3735$e4fe514c@dreader22.news.xs4all.nl...
"Hertz Dount"
And yet your religion has been killing in the name of God for
centuries....
People kill people. The justification is always their own.
Don't blame it on religion if your religious, because that would be
wriggling out of the responsibility.
Don't blame religion if you are NOT religious, because that way you
would
use something different for the same reason.
Christine!
Then tell that to the millions killed in the name of Christianity. Tell
that to the millions killed in the name of Islam. Tell that to the
millions
of Jews exterminated by Hitler.
Those that *pretend* that killing in the name of religion does not occur
are
perpetuating it.
Honu- Hide quoted text -
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Tell
that to the millions killed in the name of Islam.
MILLIONS killed in the name of Islam? Which history book did you get
that from?
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| User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E." |
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24 Mar 2007 08:32:38 PM |
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Loogie wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because America sneezed.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged
demo.
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24 Mar 2007 09:38:33 PM |
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On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Proof of bipartisan complicity in the war in Iraq at
http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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24 Mar 2007 09:42:26 PM |
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In News 1174790313.809498.197420@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_giver@yahoo.com at truth_giver@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country. I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
Proof of bipartisan complicity in the war in Iraq at
http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv
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| User: "Paul Hovnanian P.E." |
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25 Mar 2007 02:43:25 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197420@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_giver@yahoo.com at truth_giver@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country. I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
You mean billion, right?
Its actually far fewer than that. God is only concerned with his chosen
people. Those would be the descendants of Abraham. All of you other
suckers from Europe and elsewhere are out of luck.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
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Just say 'No' to Windows.
-- Department of Defenestration.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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25 Mar 2007 04:47:51 PM |
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In News 4606D0DD.328C006E@hovnanian.com,, Paul Hovnanian P.E. at
paul@hovnanian.com, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197420@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_giver@yahoo.com at truth_giver@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a
country. I always figured that he dealt with individuals. After
all, the guy has a pretty big job ahead of him processing more than
six trillion souls on judgement day.
You mean billion, right?
Oh yeah, my bad.
Its actually far fewer than that. God is only concerned with his
chosen people. Those would be the descendants of Abraham. All of you
other suckers from Europe and elsewhere are out of luck.
We have our own God and heaven. It's better than yours... :)
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24 Mar 2007 10:24:13 PM |
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In article <mklNh.130952$_73.2434@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, "Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197420@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_giver@yahoo.com at truth_giver@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country. I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
And if he spends a second per soul, the judgment will take roughly
30,000 years. Wow, that a lot of wait for the consequences of one's
60 years of life...
DK
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24 Mar 2007 11:37:21 PM |
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"DK" <dk@no.email.thankstospam.net> wrote in message
news:yXlNh.62$WA4.57@newsfe02.lga...
In article <mklNh.130952$_73.2434@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197420@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_giver@yahoo.com at truth_giver@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country.
I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has
a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
And if he spends a second per soul, the judgment will take roughly
30,000 years. Wow, that a lot of wait for the consequences of one's
60 years of life...
There we go, applying our notion of time, space and process on the
hereafter. We have no imagination :-)
Phil H
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| User: "DK" |
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24 Mar 2007 11:53:53 PM |
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In article <_r2dnXWYEP0YYZjbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote:
"DK" <dk@no.email.thankstospam.net> wrote in message
news:yXlNh.62$WA4.57@newsfe02.lga...
In article <mklNh.130952$_73.2434@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197420@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_giver@yahoo.com at truth_giver@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country.
I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has
a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
And if he spends a second per soul, the judgment will take roughly
30,000 years. Wow, that's a lot of wait for the consequences of one's
60 years of life...
There we go, applying our notion of time, space and process on the
hereafter. We have no imagination :-)
Are you implying that god has quantum supercomputer to speed up
the evaluation? ;)) And while we ponder how god will manage his
duties, keep in mind Santa - he can't move as fast as he'd have to
to fullfil his.
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| User: "bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica" |
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25 Mar 2007 12:13:20 AM |
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On Mar 24, 9:53 pm, (DK) wrote:
In article <_r2dnXWYEP0YYZjbnZ2dnUVZ_uygn...@comcast.com>, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote:
"DK" < > wrote in message
news:yXlNh.62$WA4.57@newsfe02.lga...
In article <mklNh.130952$_73.2...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_gi...@yahoo.com at truth_gi...@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country.
I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has
a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
And if he spends a second per soul, the judgment will take roughly
30,000 years. Wow, that's a lot of wait for the consequences of one's
60 years of life...
There we go, applying our notion of time, space and process on the
hereafter. We have no imagination :-)
Are you implying that god has quantum supercomputer to speed up
the evaluation? ;)) And while we ponder how god will manage his
duties, keep in mind Santa - he can't move as fast as he'd have to
to fullfil his.- Hide quoted text -
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If there was a god, he would ***** on the USA for Years of Murder,
Illegal War, Torture and Rape of Other Countries and the Earth.
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25 Mar 2007 02:23:41 AM |
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On Mar 24, 11:13 pm, "bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica"
<bushhelpscorporati...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 9:53 pm, (DK) wrote:
In article <_r2dnXWYEP0YYZjbnZ2dnUVZ_uygn...@comcast.com>, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote:
"DK" < > wrote in message
news:yXlNh.62$WA4.57@newsfe02.lga...
In article <mklNh.130952$_73.2...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_gi...@yahoo.com at truth_gi...@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country.
I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has
a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
And if he spends a second per soul, the judgment will take roughly
30,000 years. Wow, that's a lot of wait for the consequences of one's
60 years of life...
There we go, applying our notion of time, space and process on the
hereafter. We have no imagination :-)
Are you implying that god has quantum supercomputer to speed up
the evaluation? ;)) And while we ponder how god will manage his
duties, keep in mind Santa - he can't move as fast as he'd have to
to fullfil his.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If there was a god, he would ***** on the USA for Years of Murder,
Illegal War, Torture and Rape of Other Countries and the Earth.
My, my, the glass half empty...
But since I can't knock the underlying premise, I might as well add
genocide of the indigenous people and slavery.... It's a hell of a
legacy.
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| User: "Zigler" |
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25 Mar 2007 02:21:32 AM |
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On Mar 24, 10:37 pm, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote:
"DK" <d...@no.email.thankstospam.net> wrote in message
news:yXlNh.62$WA4.57@newsfe02.lga...
In article <mklNh.130952$_73.2...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAI...@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_gi...@yahoo.com at truth_gi...@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a country.
I
always figured that he dealt with individuals. After all, the guy has
a
pretty big job ahead of him processing more than six trillion souls on
judgement day.
And if he spends a second per soul, the judgment will take roughly
30,000 years. Wow, that a lot of wait for the consequences of one's
60 years of life...
There we go, applying our notion of time, space and process on the
hereafter. We have no imagination :-)
Annoying, isn't it? Worse yet is projecting ourselves on our notion of
"God". Anthropomorphism in other words.
Tragically limiting it is. Western religion has taken its toll on
human imagination, alright.
Phil H
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24 Mar 2007 10:34:54 PM |
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In News yXlNh.62$WA4.57@newsfe02.lga,, DK at dk@no.email.thankstospam.net,
typed this:
In article <mklNh.130952$_73.2434@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_2@FAM.NET> wrote:
In News 1174790313.809498.197420@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,,
truth_giver@yahoo.com at truth_giver@yahoo.com, typed this:
On Mar 23, 6:51 am, Loogie <boogieloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would God Bless America?
Because there are a LOT of hard working, honest people here who have
nothing to do with the bi-partisan corruption that is rampant in
Washington.
I guess a better question would be "Why would God *not* bless
America?"
Personally, I've never quite understood why God would bless a
country. I always figured that he dealt with individuals. After
all, the guy has a pretty big job ahead of him processing more than
six trillion souls on judgement day.
And if he spends a second per soul, the judgment will take roughly
30,000 years. Wow, that a lot of wait for the consequences of one's
60 years of life...
DK
Yep, that's what I was thinking. Possibly hell is being at that back of
that line. :) Of course, I guess it's not like we'll have anything better
to do, being dead and all.
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