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"Lady Liberty" |
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04 Apr 2006 07:57:37 PM |
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Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
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LIBERTARIAN PARTY PRESS RELEASE:
April 4, 2006
Will We Let Bush Invade Iran?
Americans Should be Wary of an Upcoming
Bush Administration Pitch to Invade Iran
(Washington, D.C.) When the Bush administration decided to
invade Iraq, it did so preemptively (the US homeland had not
been attacked by Iraq) and unilaterally (the global community
overwhelmingly opposed this invasion). Nonetheless, the members
of the administration, including ***** Cheney, Condoleeza Rice,
Paul Wolfowitz, and President George W. Bush himself, employed
tactics of fear and coercion to gain the support of the American
people.
Time and again, Americans were told that Iraqi dictator Saddam
Hussein had close ties with al-Qaeda, and played some role in
the September 11th terrorist attacks. Additionally, the Bush
administration repeatedly supported intelligence that indicated
that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Now, after more
than three years of fighting, and at the expense of thousands of
American lives, we now know the truth; Saddam's Iraq posed no
threat to our nation.
Today, it appears that a similar pattern is forming. Instead of
Iraq, however, the administration has chosen Iran as its new
target. In the media, and in White House press conferences,
similar rhetoric is appearing.
"The American people should be wary of the Bush Administration's
mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated Michael Dixon, chairman
of the Libertarian Party. "If you treat someone as your enemy,
they will be your enemy. It's time for the Bush administration
to take a grown-up approach to foreign policy and stop playing
the schoolyard bully."
The Libertarian Party understands the importance of a strong
national defense; however it is rational enough to oppose
preemptive warfare. This stance is clearly written within the
party's platform: "The United States should not inject itself
into the internal matters of other nations, unless they have
declared war upon or attacked the United States, or the U.S. is
already in a constitutionally declared war with them."
Chairman Dixon continued by saying, "I stand by the Libertarian
Party's platform and encourage the rest of America to do the
same. We need reason within our nation, not rhetoric."
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Please read about the true principles of liberty at:
http//planetarybillofrights.org/
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| User: "David Goldberg" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
07 Apr 2006 08:00:32 PM |
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Lady Liberty wrote:
"The American people should be wary of the Bush Administration's
mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated Michael Dixon, chairman
of the Libertarian Party. "If you treat someone as your enemy,
they will be your enemy. It's time for the Bush administration
to take a grown-up approach to foreign policy and stop playing
the schoolyard bully."
When did Libertarians join the radical leftists in claiming that
everything is America's fault?
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a little logic and
start holding the Iranian government to the same standard they hold the
American government.
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"If there are people inside our country who are talking with al Qaeda,
we want to know about it, because we will not sit back and wait to be
hit again."
~President George W. Bush
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| User: "Lady Libertarian" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
07 Apr 2006 09:16:25 PM |
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David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote :
Lady Liberty wrote:
"The American people should be wary of the Bush
Administration's mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated
Michael Dixon, chairman of the Libertarian Party. "If you
treat someone as your enemy, they will be your enemy. It's
time for the Bush administration to take a grown-up approach
to foreign policy and stop playing the schoolyard bully."
When did Libertarians join the radical leftists in claiming
that everything is America's fault?
Which libertarians? I only posted that for discussion's sake.
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a little
logic and start holding the Iranian government to the same
standard they hold the American government.
How so?
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "David Goldberg" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 11:16:56 AM |
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Lady Libertarian wrote:
David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote :
Lady Liberty wrote:
"The American people should be wary of the Bush
Administration's mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated
Michael Dixon, chairman of the Libertarian Party. "If you
treat someone as your enemy, they will be your enemy. It's
time for the Bush administration to take a grown-up approach
to foreign policy and stop playing the schoolyard bully."
When did Libertarians join the radical leftists in claiming
that everything is America's fault?
Which libertarians? I only posted that for discussion's sake.
Michael Dixon, chairman of the Libertarian Party.
Did you even read what he said before you posted?
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"If there are people inside our country who are talking with al Qaeda,
we want to know about it, because we will not sit back and wait to be
hit again."
~President George W. Bush
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 01:17:32 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:00:32 -0700, David Goldberg wrote:
Lady Liberty wrote:
"The American people should be wary of the Bush Administration's
mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated Michael Dixon, chairman
of the Libertarian Party. "If you treat someone as your enemy,
they will be your enemy. It's time for the Bush administration
to take a grown-up approach to foreign policy and stop playing
the schoolyard bully."
When did Libertarians join the radical leftists in claiming that
everything is America's fault?
Ha! Think, "herding cats."
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a little logic and
start holding the Iranian government to the same standard they hold the
American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
-- Regards, Curly
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| User: "Lady Libertarian" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 01:44:21 PM |
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Curly Surmudgeon <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote :
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:00:32 -0700, David Goldberg wrote:
Lady Liberty wrote:
"The American people should be wary of the Bush
Administration's mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated
Michael Dixon, chairman of the Libertarian Party. "If you
treat someone as your enemy, they will be your enemy. It's
time for the Bush administration to take a grown-up approach
to foreign policy and stop playing the schoolyard bully."
When did Libertarians join the radical leftists in claiming
that everything is America's fault?
Ha! Think, "herding cats."
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a little
logic and start holding the Iranian government to the same
standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
Until they nuke someone, anyway.
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
09 Apr 2006 01:31:49 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:44:21 -0500, Lady Libertarian wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote :
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:00:32 -0700, David Goldberg wrote:
Lady Liberty wrote:
"The American people should be wary of the Bush
Administration's mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated
Michael Dixon, chairman of the Libertarian Party. "If you
treat someone as your enemy, they will be your enemy. It's
time for the Bush administration to take a grown-up approach
to foreign policy and stop playing the schoolyard bully."
When did Libertarians join the radical leftists in claiming
that everything is America's fault?
Ha! Think, "herding cats."
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a little
logic and start holding the Iranian government to the same
standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
Until they nuke someone, anyway.
Let those people deal with the consequences. America is not the world's
policeman. France has already stepped up to the plate and offered.
-- Regards, Curly
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Time to dust off the guillotine
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| User: "Lady Libertarian" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
09 Apr 2006 03:38:29 PM |
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Curly Surmudgeon <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote :
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:44:21 -0500, Lady Libertarian wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote :
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:00:32 -0700, David Goldberg wrote:
Lady Liberty wrote:
"The American people should be wary of the Bush
Administration's mounting rhetoric against Iran," stated
Michael Dixon, chairman of the Libertarian Party. "If you
treat someone as your enemy, they will be your enemy.
It's time for the Bush administration to take a grown-up
approach to foreign policy and stop playing the schoolyard
bully."
When did Libertarians join the radical leftists in claiming
that everything is America's fault?
Ha! Think, "herding cats."
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a
little logic and start holding the Iranian government to
the same standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
Until they nuke someone, anyway.
Let those people deal with the consequences. America is not
the world's policeman. France has already stepped up to the
plate and offered.
:)
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "David Goldberg" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 11:18:40 AM |
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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a little logic and
start holding the Iranian government to the same standard they hold the
American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
They've been supporting international terror for years, they've expressed
their desire to wipe America off the map, they're controlled by
fundamentalist Muslim nutjobs, and they're trying to build nukes.
Yeah, nothing to be concerned about.
--
"If there are people inside our country who are talking with al Qaeda, we
want to know about it, because we will not sit back and wait to be hit
again."
~President George W. Bush
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| User: "Lady Libertarian" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 01:48:05 PM |
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David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote :
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a
little logic and start holding the Iranian government to
the same standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
They've been supporting international terror for years,
So have we. We support Israel, which has established a
nationalist socialist state and crushed anyone who opposed it.
they've expressed their desire to wipe America off the map,
they're controlled by fundamentalist Muslim nutjobs, and
they're trying to build nukes.
Yeah, nothing to be concerned about.
Well being the liberals refuse to believe that Saddam had WMD's
or was a threat, why should this administration go out on another
limb that gives the American marxists more ammo to use against
them?
Let Iran build nukes, who cares? Let them nuke Europe, who cares?
Let all the people who dump on the U.S. all the time worry about
it. This administration should refer it to the UN for discussion
for the next 10 years, let them worry about it. And if Iran nukes
marxist NYC, oh well.
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Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "Chas" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 02:32:11 PM |
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"Lady Libertarian" <Lady_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xxx> wrote
So have we. We support Israel, which has established a
nationalist socialist state and crushed anyone who opposed it.
Mostly just the inimical despotic terrorist states that surround it.
We tend to support their sporadic domestic movements towards representative
democratic non-theocracy.
Well being the liberals refuse to believe that Saddam had WMD's
or was a threat, why should this administration go out on another
limb that gives the American marxists more ammo to use against
them?
They're lame-ducks anyway and can't ***** up too much worse anyway?
Let Iran build nukes, who cares? Let them nuke Europe, who cares?
If we could just get them pointed East, it wouldn't be so bad. Their best
non-manned delivery system is only a few hundred miles-
cool.
Let all the people who dump on the U.S. all the time worry about
it. This administration should refer it to the UN for discussion
for the next 10 years, let them worry about it. And if Iran nukes
marxist NYC, oh well.
Well, you have no expectation of posterity anyway, but I tend to think of
later generations. If there's going to be a glowing black glass slug- better
in Teheran than NYC- just on general principles.
Chas
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| User: "David Goldberg" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 02:27:25 PM |
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Lady Libertarian wrote:
David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote :
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a
little logic and start holding the Iranian government to
the same standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
They've been supporting international terror for years,
So have we. We support Israel, which has established a
nationalist socialist state and crushed anyone who opposed it.
Oh please.
It's sad to see Libertarians join the radical leftist nutjobs in blaming
America and Israel for all the world's problems.
Stop listening to Al Franken and Michael Moore, and come join us in the
real world.
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"If there are people inside our country who are talking with al Qaeda,
we want to know about it, because we will not sit back and wait to be
hit again."
~President George W. Bush
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| User: "Lady Libertarian" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
08 Apr 2006 06:31:30 PM |
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David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote :
Lady Libertarian wrote:
David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote :
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a
little logic and start holding the Iranian government to
the same standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
They've been supporting international terror for years,
So have we. We support Israel, which has established a
nationalist socialist state and crushed anyone who opposed
it.
Oh please.
It's sad to see Libertarians join the radical leftist nutjobs
in blaming America and Israel for all the world's problems.
I didn't say that, and I come from a Jewish family and was even
brought up zionist. But then over the years I watched the news
footage. Bulldozing the villages and homes of some people because
of what other people did? That's fascist as it comes. And I don't
blame the U.S. at all for what Israel does, but as a libertarian
we should withdraw all foreign aid from all over the world and
stop supporting tyrannies.
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations -
entangling alliances with none." --Thomas Jefferson - First
Inaugural Address.
Stop listening to Al Franken and Michael Moore, and come join
us in the real world.
I loathe those marxist scum. But I'm not going to blindly support
any tyranny, right or wrong, just because our government funds
it.
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Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
09 Apr 2006 01:34:19 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:18:40 -0700, David Goldberg wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a little logic and
start holding the Iranian government to the same standard they hold the
American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
They've been supporting international terror for years, they've expressed
their desire to wipe America off the map, they're controlled by
fundamentalist Muslim nutjobs, and they're trying to build nukes.
Yup, halt America's march toward Empire and Iran won't have a reason. We
have Iran encircled on three of four sides, Iraq, Afghanistan and water,
constantly threaten nuclear holocaust, and you expect them not to respond
accordingly?
Yeah, nothing to be concerned about.
Right. Get out of their face.
-- Regards, Curly
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| User: "Lady Libertarian" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
09 Apr 2006 03:39:26 PM |
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Curly Surmudgeon <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote :
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:18:40 -0700, David Goldberg wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a
little logic and start holding the Iranian government to
the same standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
They've been supporting international terror for years,
they've expressed their desire to wipe America off the map,
they're controlled by fundamentalist Muslim nutjobs, and
they're trying to build nukes.
Yup, halt America's march toward Empire and Iran won't have a
reason. We have Iran encircled on three of four sides, Iraq,
Afghanistan and water, constantly threaten nuclear holocaust,
and you expect them not to respond accordingly?
No one has threatened them with nuclear holocaust. What kind of
dope are you smoking?
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: Will We Let Bush Invade Iran? |
09 Apr 2006 11:49:50 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:39:26 -0500, Lady Libertarian wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon <curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote :
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:18:40 -0700, David Goldberg wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
Schoolyard bully? Maybe the Libertarians could use a
little logic and start holding the Iranian government to
the same standard they hold the American government.
Why should we be concerned with Iran at all?
They've been supporting international terror for years,
they've expressed their desire to wipe America off the map,
they're controlled by fundamentalist Muslim nutjobs, and
they're trying to build nukes.
Yup, halt America's march toward Empire and Iran won't have a
reason. We have Iran encircled on three of four sides, Iraq,
Afghanistan and water, constantly threaten nuclear holocaust,
and you expect them not to respond accordingly?
No one has threatened them with nuclear holocaust.
I'll assume that you're just ignorant of events and not engaging in
denial. Perhaps you haven't been following the news and speeches of Bush
and Co for the last 5 years. Study up on diplomatic-talk first. Both North
Korea and Iran have been threatened for years with references to, and
inferences of, nuclear weapons.
What kind of dope are you smoking?
Sorry, I don't do or deal drugs. Please note that this is a public forum
and you'd do well to keep your habits confidential.
-- Regards, Curly
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