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User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
Date: 11 Mar 2005 11:19:38 AM
Object: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants
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US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam
On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.
In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.
China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure
(snip)
.

User: "Travis Campbell"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 11:40:24 AM
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

(snip)

Funny, Bush is ready to attack Iran for having nook-a-lar plants.
.
User: "DNC_TN@"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 05:10:01 PM
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:40:24 -0800, "Travis Campbell"
<travisc@compton.net> wrote:


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http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

(snip)


Funny, Bush is ready to attack Iran for having nook-a-lar plants.

ERRR WRONG!, he is concerned because Iran 'may be enriching uranium at
those plants to weapons grade' Which is a different animal.
Read a newspaper or ask your daddy or mamma sometime what's going on
in the world sometime, they will inform you. I promise they will.
See ya later little boy.
Thanks.
******************************
http://www.dubyareport.net/
http://www.frozenpsi.net/
.
User: "Travis Campbell"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 07:36:08 PM
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:40:24 -0800, "Travis Campbell"
<travisc@compton.net> wrote:


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http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

(snip)


Funny, Bush is ready to attack Iran for having nook-a-lar plants.



ERRR WRONG!, he is concerned because Iran 'may be enriching uranium at
those plants to weapons grade' Which is a different animal.

Read a newspaper or ask your daddy or mamma sometime what's going on
in the world sometime, they will inform you. I promise they will.

See ya later little boy.

Thanks.

Seems you should change the channel from, "The Agree with Bush on every
stupid, retarded lie / Fox News Channel" to the, "Wake Up / reality
channel".
.
User: "DNC_TN@"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 08:54:10 PM
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:36:08 -0800, "Travis Campbell"
<travisc@compton.net> wrote:


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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:40:24 -0800, "Travis Campbell"
<travisc@compton.net> wrote:


"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in

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http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

(snip)


Funny, Bush is ready to attack Iran for having nook-a-lar plants.



ERRR WRONG!, he is concerned because Iran 'may be enriching uranium at
those plants to weapons grade' Which is a different animal.

Read a newspaper or ask your daddy or mamma sometime what's going on
in the world sometime, they will inform you. I promise they will.

See ya later little boy.

Thanks.


Seems you should change the channel from, "The Agree with Bush on every
stupid, retarded lie / Fox News Channel" to the, "Wake Up / reality
channel".

Sorry but Those channels don't exist here. I only receive FOX
NEWSCHANNEL and the Clinton News Network.
I watch FOX, even though they are slightly bias to the right, just
slightly. They are more interesting to watch and not as drab and dead
as cnn.
BTW, you need to come up with some new lines. Saying retarded all the
time gets old. Perhaps you should call me 'a slow learner' next time?
thanks and all the best
******************************
http://www.dubyareport.net/
http://www.frozenpsi.net/
.



User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 11:47:02 AM
Travis Campbell wrote:

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in

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http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

(snip)


Funny, Bush is ready to attack Iran for having nook-a-lar plants.

Yup - and notice this article is from the asia times. Why isn't CNN
asking about this ?
.
User: "Travis Campbell"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 12:08:34 PM
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Travis Campbell wrote:

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in

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news:1110561578.472278.64800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...



http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

(snip)


Funny, Bush is ready to attack Iran for having nook-a-lar plants.


Yup - and notice this article is from the asia times. Why isn't CNN
asking about this ?

What and screw up their tax breaks?
.



User: "richard schumacher"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 18 Mar 2005 10:18:23 PM
In article <1110561578.472278.64800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

We'd better work out a way to confirm compliance: nuclear power is the
only thing that can reduce the damage caused by global warming in the
short term (the next 50 years or so).
.

User: "Bill Bonde The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shoutingloud"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 12:25:03 PM
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not allowed
to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China anyway.
--
Personal accounts are good because they lessen the liability against
future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been
paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund deficits.
.
User: "Travis Campbell"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 01:40:56 PM
"Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' )"
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not allowed
to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China anyway.

Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.
.
User: "Bill Bonde The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shoutingloud"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 08:29:12 PM
Travis Campbell wrote:


"Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' )"
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance the
building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western high
technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a blind
eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized exports
of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have them.
Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not allowed
to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China anyway.


Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.

Feel free to tell us about *any* American made weapon system you can
find in Iraq that isn't there because the US brought it there to kick
Saddam's *****. Put that right here ----->
--
Personal accounts are good because they lessen the liability against
future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been
paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund deficits.
.
User: "Travis Campbell"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 11:37:28 PM
"Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' )"
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Travis Campbell wrote:


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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not allowed
to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.


Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.

Feel free to tell us about *any* American made weapon system you can
find in Iraq that isn't there because the US brought it there to kick
Saddam's *****. Put that right here ----->

Okay:
THE US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq
needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass
destruction.
Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban
affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US,
under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr,
sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and
botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to
tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella
melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which
causes gas gangrene.
Classified US Defense Department documents also seen by the Sunday Herald
show that Britain sold Iraq the drug pralidoxine, an antidote to nerve gas,
in March 1992, after the end of the Gulf war. Pralidoxine can be reverse
engineered to create nerve gas.
The Senate committee's reports on 'US Chemical and Biological
Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq', undertaken in 1992 in the wake of
the Gulf war, give the date and destination of all US exports. The reports
show, for example, that on May 2, 1986, two batches of bacillus anthracis --
the micro-organism that causes anthrax -- were shipped to the Iraqi Ministry
of Higher Education, along with two batches of the bacterium clostridium
botulinum, the agent that causes deadly botulism poisoning.
One batch each of salmonella and E coli were shipped to the Iraqi State
Company for Drug Industries on August 31, 1987. Other shipments went from
the US to the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission on July 11, 1988; the Department
of Biology at the University of Basrah in November 1989; the Department of
Microbiology at Baghdad University in June 1985; the Ministry of Health in
April 1985 and Officers' City, a military complex in Baghdad, in March and
April 1986.
The shipments to Iraq went on even after Saddam Hussein ordered the gassing
of the Kurdish town of Halabja, in which at least 5000 men, women and
children died. The atrocity, which shocked the world, took place in March
1988, but a month later the components and materials of weapons of mass
destruction were continuing to arrive in Baghdad from the US.
The Senate report also makes clear that: 'The United States provided the
government of Iraq with 'dual use' licensed materials which assisted in the
development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programs.'
http://tinyurl.com/2dk53
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User: "Bill Bonde"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 12 Mar 2005 12:57:11 AM
Travis Campbell wrote:


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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a weak,
inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to China
and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not allowed
to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.


Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.

Feel free to tell us about *any* American made weapon system you can
find in Iraq that isn't there because the US brought it there to kick
Saddam's *****. Put that right here ----->


Okay:

None of the following material responds in any valid way to what I asked
you to provide. It's a like to blame the US and the UK for Saddam's
nuclear efforts since nothing touches what France did, build Saddam a
nuclear reactor with no proliferation protections. Do try again, this
time including actual US made weapon systems in Iraq not there because
the US brought them to kick Saddam's *****. Feel free to ask me to detail
French made weapons that France sold Saddam and that Saddam used to kill
American soldiers.

THE US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq
needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass
destruction.

Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban
affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US,
under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr,
sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and
botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to
tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella
melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which
causes gas gangrene.

Classified US Defense Department documents also seen by the Sunday Herald
show that Britain sold Iraq the drug pralidoxine, an antidote to nerve gas,
in March 1992, after the end of the Gulf war. Pralidoxine can be reverse
engineered to create nerve gas.

The Senate committee's reports on 'US Chemical and Biological
Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq', undertaken in 1992 in the wake of
the Gulf war, give the date and destination of all US exports. The reports
show, for example, that on May 2, 1986, two batches of bacillus anthracis --
the micro-organism that causes anthrax -- were shipped to the Iraqi Ministry
of Higher Education, along with two batches of the bacterium clostridium
botulinum, the agent that causes deadly botulism poisoning.

One batch each of salmonella and E coli were shipped to the Iraqi State
Company for Drug Industries on August 31, 1987. Other shipments went from
the US to the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission on July 11, 1988; the Department
of Biology at the University of Basrah in November 1989; the Department of
Microbiology at Baghdad University in June 1985; the Ministry of Health in
April 1985 and Officers' City, a military complex in Baghdad, in March and
April 1986.

The shipments to Iraq went on even after Saddam Hussein ordered the gassing
of the Kurdish town of Halabja, in which at least 5000 men, women and
children died. The atrocity, which shocked the world, took place in March
1988, but a month later the components and materials of weapons of mass
destruction were continuing to arrive in Baghdad from the US.

The Senate report also makes clear that: 'The United States provided the
government of Iraq with 'dual use' licensed materials which assisted in the
development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programs.'

http://tinyurl.com/2dk53

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Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 12 Mar 2005 01:21:09 AM
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http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to

finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than

big

business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well

as

China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other

Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible

states.


In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it

deals.


China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not

have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and

China

with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.


Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.

Feel free to tell us about *any* American made weapon system you can
find in Iraq that isn't there because the US brought it there to kick
Saddam's *****. Put that right here ----->


Okay:

None of the following material responds in any valid way to what I asked
you to provide. It's a like to blame the US and the UK for Saddam's
nuclear efforts since nothing touches what France did, build Saddam a
nuclear reactor with no proliferation protections. Do try again, this
time including actual US made weapon systems in Iraq not there because
the US brought them to kick Saddam's *****. Feel free to ask me to detail
French made weapons that France sold Saddam and that Saddam used to kill
American soldiers.

For english..........press one.
For republican.....press DUH!
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User: "Bill Bonde The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shoutingloud"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 12 Mar 2005 12:29:08 PM
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to

finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than

big

business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well

as

China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other

Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible

states.


In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it

deals.


China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not

have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and

China

with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.


Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.

Feel free to tell us about *any* American made weapon system you can
find in Iraq that isn't there because the US brought it there to kick
Saddam's *****. Put that right here ----->


Okay:

None of the following material responds in any valid way to what I asked
you to provide. It's a like to blame the US and the UK for Saddam's
nuclear efforts since nothing touches what France did, build Saddam a
nuclear reactor with no proliferation protections. Do try again, this
time including actual US made weapon systems in Iraq not there because
the US brought them to kick Saddam's *****. Feel free to ask me to detail
French made weapons that France sold Saddam and that Saddam used to kill
American soldiers.


For english..........press one.
For republican.....press DUH!

So you cannot provide a single example of any American made weapons
system in Iraq not there before the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Are you just giving up?
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Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 12 Mar 2005 01:10:02 PM
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to

finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it

than

big

business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal

a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard

to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as

well

as

China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other

Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible

states.


In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is

turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it

deals.


China says it's clean - no more proliferation and

unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not

have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US

and

China

with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to

China

anyway.


Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.

Feel free to tell us about *any* American made weapon system you

can

find in Iraq that isn't there because the US brought it there to

kick

Saddam's *****. Put that right here ----->


Okay:

None of the following material responds in any valid way to what I

asked

you to provide. It's a like to blame the US and the UK for Saddam's
nuclear efforts since nothing touches what France did, build Saddam a
nuclear reactor with no proliferation protections. Do try again, this
time including actual US made weapon systems in Iraq not there because
the US brought them to kick Saddam's *****. Feel free to ask me to

detail

French made weapons that France sold Saddam and that Saddam used to

kill

American soldiers.


For english..........press one.
For republican.....press DUH!

So you cannot provide a single example of any American made weapons
system in Iraq not there before the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Are you just giving up?

Lenscrafters = Glasses in about an hour:
THE US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq
needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass
destruction.
Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban
affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US,
under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr,
sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and
botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to
tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella
melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which
causes gas gangrene.
Classified US Defense Department documents also seen by the Sunday Herald
show that Britain sold Iraq the drug pralidoxine, an antidote to nerve gas,
in March 1992, after the end of the Gulf war. Pralidoxine can be reverse
engineered to create nerve gas.
The Senate committee's reports on 'US Chemical and Biological
Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq', undertaken in 1992 in the wake of
the Gulf war, give the date and destination of all US exports. The reports
show, for example, that on May 2, 1986, two batches of bacillus anthracis --
the micro-organism that causes anthrax -- were shipped to the Iraqi Ministry
of Higher Education, along with two batches of the bacterium clostridium
botulinum, the agent that causes deadly botulism poisoning.
One batch each of salmonella and E coli were shipped to the Iraqi State
Company for Drug Industries on August 31, 1987. Other shipments went from
the US to the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission on July 11, 1988; the Department
of Biology at the University of Basrah in November 1989; the Department of
Microbiology at Baghdad University in June 1985; the Ministry of Health in
April 1985 and Officers' City, a military complex in Baghdad, in March and
April 1986.
The shipments to Iraq went on even after Saddam Hussein ordered the gassing
of the Kurdish town of Halabja, in which at least 5000 men, women and
children died. The atrocity, which shocked the world, took place in March
1988, but a month later the components and materials of weapons of mass
destruction were continuing to arrive in Baghdad from the US.
The Senate report also makes clear that: 'The United States provided the
government of Iraq with 'dual use' licensed materials which assisted in the
development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programs.'
http://tinyurl.com/2dk53
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User: "Bill Bonde The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shoutingloud"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 14 Mar 2005 11:59:37 AM
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to

finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it

than

big

business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal

a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard

to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as

well

as

China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other

Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible

states.


In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is

turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it

deals.


China says it's clean - no more proliferation and

unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not

have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US

and

China

with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to

China

anyway.


Reagan did the same with Iraq and now look where the Pugs took
us............to NEW lows.

Feel free to tell us about *any* American made weapon system you

can

find in Iraq that isn't there because the US brought it there to

kick

Saddam's *****. Put that right here ----->


Okay:

None of the following material responds in any valid way to what I

asked

you to provide. It's a like to blame the US and the UK for Saddam's
nuclear efforts since nothing touches what France did, build Saddam a
nuclear reactor with no proliferation protections. Do try again, this
time including actual US made weapon systems in Iraq not there because
the US brought them to kick Saddam's *****. Feel free to ask me to

detail

French made weapons that France sold Saddam and that Saddam used to

kill

American soldiers.


For english..........press one.
For republican.....press DUH!

So you cannot provide a single example of any American made weapons
system in Iraq not there before the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Are you just giving up?


Lenscrafters = Glasses in about an hour:

Can you just name one single weapons system made by the United States
that is in Iraq not because the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Just one. Put it right here ---->

THE US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq
needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass
destruction.

Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban
affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US,
under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr,
sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and
botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to
tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella
melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which
causes gas gangrene.

Classified US Defense Department documents also seen by the Sunday Herald
show that Britain sold Iraq the drug pralidoxine, an antidote to nerve gas,
in March 1992, after the end of the Gulf war. Pralidoxine can be reverse
engineered to create nerve gas.

The Senate committee's reports on 'US Chemical and Biological
Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq', undertaken in 1992 in the wake of
the Gulf war, give the date and destination of all US exports. The reports
show, for example, that on May 2, 1986, two batches of bacillus anthracis --
the micro-organism that causes anthrax -- were shipped to the Iraqi Ministry
of Higher Education, along with two batches of the bacterium clostridium
botulinum, the agent that causes deadly botulism poisoning.

One batch each of salmonella and E coli were shipped to the Iraqi State
Company for Drug Industries on August 31, 1987. Other shipments went from
the US to the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission on July 11, 1988; the Department
of Biology at the University of Basrah in November 1989; the Department of
Microbiology at Baghdad University in June 1985; the Ministry of Health in
April 1985 and Officers' City, a military complex in Baghdad, in March and
April 1986.

The shipments to Iraq went on even after Saddam Hussein ordered the gassing
of the Kurdish town of Halabja, in which at least 5000 men, women and
children died. The atrocity, which shocked the world, took place in March
1988, but a month later the components and materials of weapons of mass
destruction were continuing to arrive in Baghdad from the US.

The Senate report also makes clear that: 'The United States provided the
government of Iraq with 'dual use' licensed materials which assisted in the
development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programs.'

http://tinyurl.com/2dk53

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Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 14 Mar 2005 12:52:41 PM
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:59:37 -0800, "Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in
confusion, all the voices shouting loud'' )"
<stderr@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com>
wrote:

Can you just name one single weapons system made by the United States
that is in Iraq not because the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Just one. Put it right here ---->

He can't.
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User: "Bill Bonde The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shoutingloud"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 14 Mar 2005 08:29:47 PM
"dnc_tn@yahoo.com" wrote:


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:59:37 -0800, "Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in
confusion, all the voices shouting loud'' )"
<stderr@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com>
wrote:

Can you just name one single weapons system made by the United States
that is in Iraq not because the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Just one. Put it right here ---->


He can't.

But that isn't his fault. There just aren't any US made weapons systems
in Iraq other than those the US brought there to kick Saddam's *****.
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User: "Kalun D"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 21 Mar 2005 12:33:26 PM
Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:


"dnc_tn@yahoo.com" wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:59:37 -0800, "Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in
confusion, all the voices shouting loud'' )"
<stderr@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com>
wrote:


Can you just name one single weapons system made by the United States
that is in Iraq not because the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Just one. Put it right here ---->


He can't.


But that isn't his fault. There just aren't any US made weapons systems
in Iraq other than those the US brought there to kick Saddam's *****.

Saddam bought most of his weaponry from Russia. He got most of the money
to buy those weapons from the USA, in the form of agricultural subsidies
and oil revenues.
The CIA helped to install him in power and supported him for years. He
was a US friendly dictator and we didn't care what he did to his people
until he turned on us.
.
User: "Bill Bonde That he not busy being"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 21 Mar 2005 03:28:29 PM
Kalun D wrote:


Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:


"dnc_tn@yahoo.com" wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:59:37 -0800, "Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in
confusion, all the voices shouting loud'' )"
<stderr@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com>
wrote:


Can you just name one single weapons system made by the United States
that is in Iraq not because the US brought it there to kick Saddam's
*****? Just one. Put it right here ---->


He can't.


But that isn't his fault. There just aren't any US made weapons systems
in Iraq other than those the US brought there to kick Saddam's *****.


Saddam bought most of his weaponry from Russia. He got most of the money
to buy those weapons from the USA, in the form of agricultural subsidies
and oil revenues.

You are lying. He got most of his money from loans and gifts from Kuwait
and Saudi Arabia.

The CIA helped to install him in power and supported him for years. He
was a US friendly dictator and we didn't care what he did to his people
until he turned on us.

That's a lie. He was securely in the Soviet SOI.
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Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 14 Mar 2005 12:16:01 PM
Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.


Ummmm, weren't you one of the whiners complain about
*****CLINTON!!!!*****
allowing China to get "secrets" about quality control regarding
rocket
launches?




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User: "Bill Bonde The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shoutingloud"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 14 Mar 2005 08:33:31 PM
Name Redacted wrote:


Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.



Ummmm, weren't you one of the whiners complain about
*****CLINTON!!!!*****
allowing China to get "secrets" about quality control regarding
rocket
launches?

There are rocket technologies that the US shouldn't let China acquire,
including MIRV capability. It is my understanding that that was leaked
to China during the Clinton administration because of the desire to
launch multiple Iridium satellites from Long March launchers. I don't
recall whining about it, but it was certainly a valid issue.
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future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been
paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund deficits.
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User: "Name Redacted"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 15 Mar 2005 02:06:24 PM
Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:

Name Redacted wrote:


Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices

shouting

loud'' ) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to

finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than

big

business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well

as

China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other

Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible

states.


In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning

a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it

deals.


China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not

have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and

China

with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.



Ummmm, weren't you one of the whiners complain about
*****CLINTON!!!!*****
allowing China to get "secrets" about quality control regarding
rocket
launches?

There are rocket technologies that the US shouldn't let China

acquire,

including MIRV capability. It is my understanding that that was

leaked

to China during the Clinton administration because of the desire to
launch multiple Iridium satellites from Long March launchers. I don't
recall whining about it, but it was certainly a valid issue.

Then you should read before posting. Anyway, the issue wasn't
(AFAIR)
"MIRV", it was the technology to analyze failed launches to find the
point of failure.
And what, pray tell, will you do (that old imperial "we" you used)
to
prevent China from learning how to MIRV their launch packages? Kick
their
rockets in the exhaust nozzles? I don't see any way to stop them,
especially
as they are graduating 5 engineers for every 1 of ours. Bush has
already
recognized he can't send the Seventh Fleet into Chinese waters any
more.
So all bets are off regarding what China can or can't do.
So, King Canute, what are your orders?





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User: "Bill Bonde The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shoutingloud"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 15 Mar 2005 03:58:20 PM
Name Redacted wrote:


Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:

Name Redacted wrote:


Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices

shouting

loud'' ) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to

finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than

big

business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well

as

China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other

Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible

states.


In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning

a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it

deals.


China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not

have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and

China

with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.



Ummmm, weren't you one of the whiners complain about
*****CLINTON!!!!*****
allowing China to get "secrets" about quality control regarding
rocket
launches?

There are rocket technologies that the US shouldn't let China

acquire,

including MIRV capability. It is my understanding that that was

leaked

to China during the Clinton administration because of the desire to
launch multiple Iridium satellites from Long March launchers. I don't
recall whining about it, but it was certainly a valid issue.


Then you should read before posting.

What should I read?

Anyway, the issue wasn't
(AFAIR)
"MIRV", it was the technology to analyze failed launches to find the

point of failure.

I think there were several technologies.

And what, pray tell, will you do (that old imperial "we" you used)
to
prevent China from learning how to MIRV their launch packages? Kick

I can't stop them from learning how but I wouldn't tell them how.

their
rockets in the exhaust nozzles? I don't see any way to stop them,
especially
as they are graduating 5 engineers for every 1 of ours. Bush has
already
recognized he can't send the Seventh Fleet into Chinese waters any
more.
So all bets are off regarding what China can or can't do.

So, King Canute, what are your orders?

Are you expecting some sort of invasion?
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Personal accounts are good because they lessen the liability against
future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been
paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund deficits.
.


User: "Name Redacted"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 15 Mar 2005 02:08:46 PM
Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:

Name Redacted wrote:


Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices

shouting

loud'' ) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to

finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than

big

business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well

as

China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other

Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible

states.


In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning

a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it

deals.


China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not

have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and

China

with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.



Ummmm, weren't you one of the whiners complain about
*****CLINTON!!!!*****
allowing China to get "secrets" about quality control regarding
rocket
launches?

There are rocket technologies that the US shouldn't let China

acquire,

including MIRV capability. It is my understanding that that was

leaked

to China during the Clinton administration because of the desire to
launch multiple Iridium satellites from Long March launchers. I don't
recall whining about it, but it was certainly a valid issue.

Ouch, you ***didn't*** type "WE". Sorry, read "we" where you typed
"US".





--
Personal accounts are good because they lessen the liability against
future taxes of the retiree while sequestering the funds he's been
paying in so they cannot be used to mask current general fund

deficits.
.



User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 01:43:11 PM
Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.

China says it's clean - no more proliferation and unauthorized

exports

of nuclear materials and equipment to states that should not have

them.

Not everyone is so sure

American companies rightly ask what good it is if they are not

allowed

to at least try to balance the trade picture between the US and China
with nuclear reactors if the French will just sell them to China

anyway.
HAHA. So now you repugs say we need to copy the french.
.
User: "Travis Campbell"

Title: Re: WTF?! -Bush gives China $5 billion to build nuclear power plants 11 Mar 2005 02:11:48 PM
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110570191.706403.57630@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Bill Bonde ( ''The chamber was in confusion, all the voices shouting
loud'' ) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:


http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/China/GC11Ad05.html

US's $5 billion nuclear gamble with China
By Kaushik Kapisthalam

On the surface, it's the biggest deal in the history of the
Export-Import Bank of the United States - US$5 billion to finance

the

building of Chinese nuclear power plants by US firms in the
energy-starved economic giant. But there's much more to it than big
business: closer scrutiny and interviews with experts reveal a

weak,

inconsistent and ultimately dangerous US policy with regard to

China

and its past (some say present) weapons proliferation, as well as
China's own efforts to acquire nuclear reactors and other Western

high

technology that could be passed on to less-than-responsible states.

In effect, in the interests of big business, the US is turning a

blind

eye to past proliferation by Chinese entities with which it deals.