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Topic:	Politics > Politics-USA
User:	"Peter Vos"
Date:	02 Sep 2004 12:23:40 AM
Object:	Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....
"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and
made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our
commander in chief."
Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to Democrats?
===
"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."
Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?
==
"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."
Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President
"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html
====
"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."
Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."
Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.
"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."
Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."
Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.
===
"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."
Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."
http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm
===
"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."
Wow... someone should check with George
"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002
.

User: "Liberal"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 01:22:51 AM

"Peter Vos" <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....

"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and
made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our
commander in chief."

Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to Democrats?
===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

Zell did a great job with his speech and I was inspired! He is a great
reason to not believe the Republican party and vote for Kerry. I am amazed
at how well he presented the hatred of conservatives towards anyone that
isn't them.
.

User: "DeepSea"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	06 Sep 2004 10:23:43 PM

"Liberal" <liberal@rock.com> wrote in
news:%_yZc.7023$Of3.5444@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

"Peter Vos" <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....

"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart
and made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring
down our commander in chief."

Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to
Democrats? ===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger,
Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom
would not falter. But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of
speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the
freedom he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't
care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not
that concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

Zell did a great job with his speech and I was inspired! He is a great
reason to not believe the Republican party and vote for Kerry. I am
amazed at how well he presented the hatred of conservatives towards
anyone that isn't them.

You're exactly right. And when we are done being impressed with Mr.
Miller's speech, we can go on over to the democratic underground or other
liberal websites where we can treat ourselves to tales of ....
....waiting until the Bush bounce settles down so we can quote "SPIN SPIN
SPIN" un-quote
....how awful it is that two hurricaines hit Florida, and might give the
President a chance to gain further if he helps people
....hoping the next terrorist attack can be spun to help out Mr. Kerry in
the poles
.... lamenting that the attacks on the Presidents military record probably
won't get as much "play" in the media because their just isn't that much
to the attacks credibility.
When we are done with that, we can all get together and tell each other
that it is the conservatives that irrationally hate, not us.

User: "Pat H."
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 04:46:26 PM

"Liberal" <liberal@rock.com> wrote in message news:<%_yZc.7023$Of3.5444@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>...

"Peter Vos" <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....

"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and
made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our
commander in chief."

Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to Democrats?
===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

There's a problem with your statement. Bush isn't a conservative,
he's an Franklin D. Roosevelt fascist. In fact, Bush is so much like
FDR it's as if he's channeling the *****.
There are no identifiable conservatives in the Bush Junta.
Pat Hines
.

User: "Chicken Liberal"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 02:27:59 AM

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 06:22:51 GMT, "Liberal" <liberal@rock.com> wrote:

"Peter Vos" <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....

"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and
made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our
commander in chief."

Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to Democrats?
===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

.... mush
.

User: "Pat H."
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 04:48:38 PM

Chicken Liberal <helpme@thesky.isfalling> wrote in message news:<gridj0dimtb983n38vdj2mltlhnt0jh8hq@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 06:22:51 GMT, "Liberal" <liberal@rock.com> wrote:

"Peter Vos" <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....

"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and
made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our
commander in chief."

Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to Democrats?
===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

... mush

No, accurate up to the point he calls Bush a conservative. Bush
hasn't a drop of conservative blood running in his veins.
Pat Hines
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:03:33 AM

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 06:22:51 GMT, "Liberal" <liberal@rock.com> wrote:

"Peter Vos" <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....

"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and
made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our
commander in chief."

Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to Democrats?
===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

A pity for you that the rest of the country disagrees with
you...Kerry's campaign is folding like a lawn chair.
.

User: "Pat H."
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 04:50:51 PM

wrote in message news:<jv2ej0dk40mscr6jukdpife0ikl25traak@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 06:22:51 GMT, "Liberal" <liberal@rock.com> wrote:

"Peter Vos" <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....

"Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of
Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and
made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our
commander in chief."

Wow... so the whole mess in Afghanistan and Iraq is due to Democrats?
===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

A pity for you that the rest of the country disagrees with
you...Kerry's campaign is folding like a lawn chair.

Get your head out of Rush Limbaugh's ***** long enough to reaccess the
situation. What you're smelling isn 't coffee, it's the stench of
neoconservatism.
.

User: "Bill Levinson"
Title: Re: Zell... should be running for President	02 Sep 2004 11:09:06 AM

If you Democrats had nominated a DEMOCRAT like Zell Miller, you would be
looking at a landslide in November.
Too bad you nominated a piece of trash like Kerry.
--Bill
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/kerry/#china Chinese spies grease
Kerry's palm in 1996. Downloadable royalty-free anti-Kerry leaflets.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:02:41 AM

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:23:40 -0500, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Yes. The foolish attempts of the appeasement-loving Dems emboldened
our enemies.

===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

No, misguided. Like their hero Chamberlain.
No one questions the Dem's patriotism. Just their judgement!

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

Um, is that what you got from the speech?

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

Not too bright, are you? Is is the SECOND amendment that gives the
first it's possibilities.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

Hope so.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

Hope so.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

No, King understood that to have peace, you sometimes need conflict.

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

No, otherwise, they wouldn't be working furiously to develop Arrow-II.
Didn't know that, didja?

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

Do you REALLY want to talk about which candidate changes like the
wind.......??
.

User: "Peter Vos"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 09:43:41 AM

wrote in
news:2n2ej0p5prip8rue6hiab2p7nqk21jc6du@4ax.com:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:23:40 -0500, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Yes. The foolish attempts of the appeasement-loving Dems emboldened
our enemies.

Sort of like the Republicans who armed the Iraqis and encouraged them to
invade Iran? Or the Republican administration that gave them a green
light to invade Kuwait? Or the Republican administration that inspired
the Shiites to rebel and abandoned them?

===

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger,
Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would
not falter. But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

No, misguided. Like their hero Chamberlain.

No one questions the Dem's patriotism. Just their judgement!

Oh I think lots of Republicans are questioning folks patriotism... and
mocking PH vets by wearing band aids on their faces.....

==

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President

Um, is that what you got from the speech?

I was being sarcastic. But Zell certainly hasn't listened to Fearless
Leader if he thinks that we aren't occupying Iraq.

"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

Not too bright, are you? Is is the SECOND amendment that gives the
first it's possibilities.

Nonsense... military might may win the day, but it is not enough to
hold the fort. Honesty and integrity count... you should read Pyle's
last published column. Ironically, it was a tribute to another
correspondent, Fred Paintor, who distinquished himself with his honesty.
"I've known him to decline to do an assignment when he felt the subject
prohibited his doing it with complete honesty."

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

Hope so.

Along with Thomas Jefferson.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

Hope so.

Along with Thomas Paine

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the
freedom he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

No, King understood that to have peace, you sometimes need conflict.

But unlike Zell and his clan, King gave a speech that identified the
real "Casualties of the War in Viet Nam"

===

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In 1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the
Scuds."

No, otherwise, they wouldn't be working furiously to develop Arrow-II.

Didn't know that, didja?

Thank you for making my point.

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him." -- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him." -- Bush, March 13, 2002

Do you REALLY want to talk about which candidate changes like the
wind.......??

Sure. Bush... We found WMD... no we didn't
Bush.... Our intelligence is good... no it isn't
Bush ... We will win the war against terrorism.... no we won't
Bush ... I want to build an alliance... no I don't
Bush ... Iraq and al Qaeda are inseparable... no they aren't
Bush ... we won't leave the job unfinished ... yes we will
Bush ... we are safer today ... no we aren't
Bush ... I'm not a nation builder .... yes I am
etc etc etc

User: "Jorge dubya"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:06:47 AM

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote:

Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins

Neither Zell nor his audience of hate-filled partisans were or can be
embarrassed by his rancorous venom, as Madison Square Garden
emulates a Munich Beer Hall of the 1930's.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:25:55 AM

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 12:06:47 GMT, Jorge dubya
<distilled@CT.drunk.in.TX> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote:

Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins

Neither Zell nor his audience of hate-filled partisans were or can be
embarrassed by his rancorous venom, as Madison Square Garden
emulates a Munich Beer Hall of the 1930's.

So, you can say that W is Hitler, huh?
Looks like you can dish it out, but can't take it, wimp!.
No matter......Kerry's "campaign" is folding like a lawn chair.
Listen to the TRUTH! LET KERRY'S OWN ACTIONS TORPEDO HIM!!
"Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to
shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security
but Americans need to know the facts.
The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40% of the bombs
in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.
The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes
against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.
The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi's
Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator
Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.
The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those
Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles,
that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and
this very city after 9/11.
I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis
air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative, Against
the Trident missile, against, against, against.
This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S.
Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"
.

User: "Dan Listermann"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:46:55 AM

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c74ej0l67m5a5t6ume3efttqvlj14moeoe@4ax.com...

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 12:06:47 GMT, Jorge dubya
<distilled@CT.drunk.in.TX> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote:

Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins

Neither Zell nor his audience of hate-filled partisans were or can be
embarrassed by his rancorous venom, as Madison Square Garden
emulates a Munich Beer Hall of the 1930's.

So, you can say that W is Hitler, huh?

Looks like you can dish it out, but can't take it, wimp!.

No matter......Kerry's "campaign" is folding like a lawn chair.

Listen to the TRUTH! LET KERRY'S OWN ACTIONS TORPEDO HIM!!

"Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to
shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security
but Americans need to know the facts.

The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40% of the bombs
in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes
against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.

The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi's
Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator
Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.

The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those
Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles,
that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and
this very city after 9/11.

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis
air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative, Against
the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S.
Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not have
anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being demagogued.
Republicans have now made it very difficult for any legislator to run for
president. Operatives will comb through anybodies record and try to
construe votes to be as bad as possible. It is shameful behavior.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:57:41 AM

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:46:55 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c74ej0l67m5a5t6ume3efttqvlj14moeoe@4ax.com...

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 12:06:47 GMT, Jorge dubya
<distilled@CT.drunk.in.TX> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote:

Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins

Neither Zell nor his audience of hate-filled partisans were or can be
embarrassed by his rancorous venom, as Madison Square Garden
emulates a Munich Beer Hall of the 1930's.

So, you can say that W is Hitler, huh?

Looks like you can dish it out, but can't take it, wimp!.

No matter......Kerry's "campaign" is folding like a lawn chair.

Listen to the TRUTH! LET KERRY'S OWN ACTIONS TORPEDO HIM!!

"Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to
shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security
but Americans need to know the facts.

The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40% of the bombs
in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes
against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.

The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi's
Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator
Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.

The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those
Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles,
that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and
this very city after 9/11.

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis
air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative, Against
the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S.
Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"

Blah, blah blah. The FACT is, Kerry's THE most liberal Senator in the
United States.
And the moderate Voter will be educated on this.
You libs are funny.
It's OK for you to squawk about "Laura bush murdering her boyfrield"
and "W was Awol" and "mission NOT accomplished.
THEN, you bray and whine when Kerry's Vietnam period is scrutinized,
after Kerry himself uses those four months of service as qualification
for POTUS.
Then, when Kerry's ACTUAL POLITICAL CAREER is questioned, you say
"that's not fair" either.
How miserably transparent and pathetic.
You libs just want Kerry to be elected, not due to Kerry's
"qualifications" or "abilities".
You just hate Bush.
Sorry. We have a RIGHT to point out Kerry's numerous faults, wobbles
and distortions.
This is America. The right gets to have their say too.
.

User: "Dan Listermann"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 08:14:40 AM

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2r5ej094j1ri32k6b88md7uagtbqcohed7@4ax.com...

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not have
anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being

demagogued.

Republicans have now made it very difficult for any legislator to run for
president. Operatives will comb through anybodies record and try to
construe votes to be as bad as possible. It is shameful behavior.

Then, when Kerry's ACTUAL POLITICAL CAREER is questioned, you say
"that's not fair" either.

How miserably transparent and pathetic.

How about an example? The Republicans are always going off about the $87
billion Iraq bill Kerry voted against. It is a favorite of theirs. Kerry
saw that it was going to pass easily. He didn't like the fact that there
was no means of paying for it. George the Unready was going to borrow every
penny of it. He lodged a protest vote against how it was financed. The
Republicans jump all over that vote as if Kerry wanted to starve the Troops.
It is called demagogic distortion.
Maybe somebody should go over Miller's record.
.

User: "Peter Vos"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 01:58:32 PM

"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in
news:10je762fg7d0o01@corp.supernews.com:

Maybe somebody should go over Miller's record.

I would go rummage through Miller's record, but then I would need to get
vaccinated for rabies.... and I just don't have the stomach for that.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 08:25:04 AM

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:14:40 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2r5ej094j1ri32k6b88md7uagtbqcohed7@4ax.com...

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not have
anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being

demagogued.

Then, when Kerry's ACTUAL POLITICAL CAREER is questioned, you say
"that's not fair" either.

How miserably transparent and pathetic.

But, the bill passed. Kerry "voted for it before he voted against
it".
Kerry's vote said: "I won't support the troops."
Kerry is THE most liberal Senator.
A pity you lefties picked him to run.

George the Unready was going to borrow every
penny of it.

That's right. That's what happens in wartime.
Big deal.
You never purchased anything on credit?

He lodged a protest vote against how it was financed.

At the expense of the boots on the ground. Kerry would deny the
troops to "make a point".

The
Republicans jump all over that vote as if Kerry wanted to starve the Troops.
It is called demagogic distortion.

No, it's called "stating the facts".
NOW, shall we discuss Kerry's Senate voting record for the past 19
years?
Voting extreme liberal? 50 cent per GALLON gasoline tax? ALL the
other taxes Kerry supports?
ALL the weapons programs Kerry voted against?
How about the "SUV" flip flop?
Why doesn't Kerry want to use wind power in his home state? Does it
block his view?
Are you going to stammer and make excuses for ALL of these?

Maybe somebody should go over Miller's record.

Go ahead.
Maybe you should look at YOUR CANDIDATE'S voting record, since YOU
want him to be President?
.

User: "Dan Listermann"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 08:56:15 AM

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2f7ej0hug4erpq315uj7bvrbv596guf88b@4ax.com...

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:14:40 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2r5ej094j1ri32k6b88md7uagtbqcohed7@4ax.com...

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not have
anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being

demagogued.

Republicans have now made it very difficult for any legislator to run

for

president. Operatives will comb through anybodies record and try to
construe votes to be as bad as possible. It is shameful behavior.

Then, when Kerry's ACTUAL POLITICAL CAREER is questioned, you say
"that's not fair" either.

How miserably transparent and pathetic.

How about an example? The Republicans are always going off about the $87
billion Iraq bill Kerry voted against. It is a favorite of theirs.

Kerry

saw that it was going to pass easily. He didn't like the fact that there
was no means of paying for it.

But, the bill passed. Kerry "voted for it before he voted against
it".

He knew it would pass with or without his vote. He decided to make a point
about how it was financed.

Kerry's vote said: "I won't support the troops."

Nonsense.

Kerry is THE most liberal Senator.

So the Republicans have tried to paint him.

A pity you lefties picked him to run.

Don't get too upset when he wins.

George the Unready was going to borrow every
penny of it.

That's right. That's what happens in wartime.

Cutting taxes in "wartime" is not what happens.

He lodged a protest vote against how it was financed.

At the expense of the boots on the ground. Kerry would deny the
troops to "make a point".

I repeat, he knew it waqs going to pass regardless.

The
Republicans jump all over that vote as if Kerry wanted to starve the

Troops.

It is called demagogic distortion.

No, it's called "stating the facts".

It is called "distorting the facts."
.

User: "Kerry Terminated"
Title: Re: Zell...Kerry more embarrassing than his wife Teresa	02 Sep 2004 09:11:28 AM

"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10je9k2lsqhrdd7@corp.supernews.com...

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2f7ej0hug4erpq315uj7bvrbv596guf88b@4ax.com...

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:14:40 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2r5ej094j1ri32k6b88md7uagtbqcohed7@4ax.com...

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not

have

anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being

demagogued.

Republicans have now made it very difficult for any legislator to

run

for

president. Operatives will comb through anybodies record and try to
construe votes to be as bad as possible. It is shameful behavior.

Then, when Kerry's ACTUAL POLITICAL CAREER is questioned, you say
"that's not fair" either.

How miserably transparent and pathetic.

How about an example? The Republicans are always going off about the

$87

billion Iraq bill Kerry voted against. It is a favorite of theirs.

Kerry

saw that it was going to pass easily. He didn't like the fact that

there

was no means of paying for it.

But, the bill passed. Kerry "voted for it before he voted against
it".

He knew it would pass with or without his vote. He decided to make a

point

about how it was financed.

Well, I guess he certainly made his point, didn't he!
Bush Kerry
June 9 177 227 (50 point lead for Kerry)
June 17 188 227 (39 point lead for Kerry)
August 3 197 227 (30 point lead for Kerry)
August 22 183 203 (20 point lead for Kerry)
August 27 183 193 (10 point lead for Kerry)
Sept 2 213 207 (6 point lead for Bush)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Electoral%20College%20Projection.htm
.

User: "Dan Listermann"
Title: Re: Zell...Kerry more embarrassing than his wife Teresa	02 Sep 2004 12:20:55 PM

"Kerry Terminated" <JohnnyGoByeBye!@DNC.org> wrote in message
news:kSFZc.1447$Vl5.598@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10je9k2lsqhrdd7@corp.supernews.com...

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2f7ej0hug4erpq315uj7bvrbv596guf88b@4ax.com...

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:14:40 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

<an00nie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2r5ej094j1ri32k6b88md7uagtbqcohed7@4ax.com...

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not

have

anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being

demagogued.

Republicans have now made it very difficult for any legislator to

run

for

president. Operatives will comb through anybodies record and try

construe votes to be as bad as possible. It is shameful behavior.

Then, when Kerry's ACTUAL POLITICAL CAREER is questioned, you say
"that's not fair" either.

How miserably transparent and pathetic.

How about an example? The Republicans are always going off about the

$87

billion Iraq bill Kerry voted against. It is a favorite of theirs.

Kerry

saw that it was going to pass easily. He didn't like the fact that

there

was no means of paying for it.

But, the bill passed. Kerry "voted for it before he voted against
it".

He knew it would pass with or without his vote. He decided to make a

point

about how it was financed.

Well, I guess he certainly made his point, didn't he!

Bush Kerry
June 9 177 227 (50 point lead for Kerry)
June 17 188 227 (39 point lead for Kerry)
August 3 197 227 (30 point lead for Kerry)
August 22 183 203 (20 point lead for Kerry)
August 27 183 193 (10 point lead for Kerry)
Sept 2 213 207 (6 point lead for Bush)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Electoral%20College%20Projection.htm

Smearing works.
.

User: ""
Title: . EXPLAINING IT TO THE LEFT .	02 Sep 2004 07:59:27 AM

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:46:55 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis
air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative, Against
the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S.
Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"

Blah, blah blah. The FACT is, Kerry's THE most liberal Senator in the
United States.
And the moderate Voter will be educated on this.
You libs are funny.
It's OK for you to squawk about "Laura bush murdering her boyfriend"
and "W was Awol" and "mission NOT accomplished".
THEN, you bray and whine when Kerry's Vietnam period is scrutinized,
after Kerry himself uses those four months of service as qualification
for POTUS.
Then, when Kerry's ACTUAL POLITICAL CAREER is questioned, you say
"that's not fair" either.
How miserably transparent and pathetic.
You libs just want Kerry to be elected, not due to Kerry's
"qualifications" or "abilities".
You just hate Bush.
Sorry. We have a RIGHT to point out Kerry's numerous faults, wobbles
and distortions.
This is America. The right gets to have their say too.
.

User: "Peter Vos"
Title: Re: . EXPLAINING IT TO THE LEFT .	02 Sep 2004 10:05:20 AM

wrote in
news:366ej0hv8tavfhken95muki3ognt1oi43d@4ax.com:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:46:55 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis
air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative,
Against the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S.
Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not have
anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being
demagogued. Republicans have now made it very difficult for any
legislator to run for president. Operatives will comb through
anybodies record and try to construe votes to be as bad as possible.
It is shameful behavior.

Blah, blah blah. The FACT is, Kerry's THE most liberal Senator in the
United States.

Got a reference for that?
I mean if it's a fact then who documented it?
Or is it a fact because everyone repeats it mindlessly.... this ain't
"Family Feud" where you get more points by having folks agree with your
answer.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: . EXPLAINING IT TO THE LEFT .	02 Sep 2004 04:11:22 PM

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:05:20 -0500, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com>
wrote:

an00nie@hotmail.com wrote in
news:366ej0hv8tavfhken95muki3ognt1oi43d@4ax.com:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:46:55 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis
air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative,
Against the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S.
Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not have
anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being
demagogued. Republicans have now made it very difficult for any
legislator to run for president. Operatives will comb through
anybodies record and try to construe votes to be as bad as possible.
It is shameful behavior.

Blah, blah blah. The FACT is, Kerry's THE most liberal Senator in the
United States.

Got a reference for that?

yup:
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0204/022704nj1.htm
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20040301-085725-5267r.htm
National Journal, the non-ideological, authoritative weekly magazine
that covers Washington politics and policy, issued its congressional
vote ratings for 2003 last week. Not surprisingly, Massachusetts Sen.
John Kerry, who is increasingly looking like a cinch to be his party's
presidential nominee, found himself in familiar territory. Once again,
Mr. Kerry has staked out the far-left fringe on the National Journal's
liberal-conservative continuum.
On a scale that ranges from 0 to 100, Mr. Kerry compiled a
composite liberal score for 2003 of 96.5, the highest in the Senate.
He eclipsed proud liberals like Paul Sarbanes (94.7) of Maryland,
Barbara Boxer (91.2) of California, Tom Harkin (89.3) of Iowa and the
Senate's liberal lion, Edward Kennedy (88.3),

I mean if it's a fact then who documented it?

See above.

Or is it a fact because everyone repeats it mindlessly.... this ain't
"Family Feud" where you get more points by having folks agree with your
answer.

Um, seems you're just too hysterical and emotional.....
.

User: "Peter Vos"
Title: Re: EXPLAINING IT TO THE RIGHT.	02 Sep 2004 06:03:05 PM

wrote in
news:or2fj0t3r2t4iq6vuaselk3u732ka72p8k@4ax.com:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:05:20 -0500, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com>
wrote:

wrote in
news:366ej0hv8tavfhken95muki3ognt1oi43d@4ax.com:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 08:46:55 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
<dan@listermann.com> wrote:

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis
air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative,
Against the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S.
Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"

There are many reasons to vote against a bill that may or may not
have anythng to do with the purpose of the bill or the subject being
demagogued. Republicans have now made it very difficult for any
legislator to run for president. Operatives will comb through
anybodies record and try to construe votes to be as bad as possible.
It is shameful behavior.

Blah, blah blah. The FACT is, Kerry's THE most liberal Senator in
the United States.

Got a reference for that?

BWHAHAHAHAHH.... non ideological "National Journal" .... ROTFLMAO.....
you took the bait.... they get their funding from the radical
right-wing Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation. According to the
Milwaukee Journal, "..the country's top sponsor of conservative
research, publications and think tanks."
The same folks who support:
Anne Coulter,
Mary Ann Glendon,
Charles Krauthammer,
and such hotbeds of "non ideological" thought....
the Project for The New American Century (PNAC) (6 Million)
the American Enterprise Institute (15 Million)
the Heritage Foundation (12 Million)
and that is just the ones I know off the top of my head
Yeah... real ideology free stuff you got... you swallowed it hook, line
and sinker

I mean if it's a fact then who documented it?

See above.

Or is it a fact because everyone repeats it mindlessly.... this ain't
"Family Feud" where you get more points by having folks agree with
your answer.

Um, seems you're just too hysterical and emotional.....

User: "Peter Vos"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 10:02:56 AM

wrote in news:c74ej0l67m5a5t6ume3efttqvlj14moeoe@
4ax.com:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 12:06:47 GMT, Jorge dubya
<distilled@CT.drunk.in.TX> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004, Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote:

Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins

Neither Zell nor his audience of hate-filled partisans were or can be
embarrassed by his rancorous venom, as Madison Square Garden
emulates a Munich Beer Hall of the 1930's.

So, you can say that W is Hitler, huh?

Looks like you can dish it out, but can't take it, wimp!.

Gee while you are dishing....here is some crow for you to eat dear:

"Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to
shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security
but Americans need to know the facts.

According to the Boston Globe, Bush's 1991 defense budget "kill[ed] 81
programs for potential savings of $ 11.9 billion." [Boston Globe, 2/5/91]

The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40% of the bombs
in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes
against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.

In 1990, "Defense Secretary Richard Cheney announced a cutback... of
nearly 45 percent in the administration's B-2 Stealth bomber program,
from 132 airplanes to 75..." [Boston Globe, 4/27/90]

The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi's
Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator
Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.

In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Cheney said, "If
you're going to have a smaller air force, you don't need as many F-
16s...The F-16D we basically continue to buy and close it out because
we're not going to have as big a force structure and we won't need as
many F-16s." [Cheney testimony, House Armed Services Committee, 2/7/91]

The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those
Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles,
that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and
this very city after 9/11.

Cheney Proposed Cutting AH-64 Apaches. In testimony before the Senate
Appropriations Committee, Defense Subcommittee, Cheney said, "This is
just a list of some of the programs that I've recommended termination:
the V-22 Osprey, the F-14D, the Army Helicopter Improvement Program,
Phoenix missile, F-15E, the Apache helicopter, the M1 tank, et cetera."
[Cheney testimony, Senate Appropriations Committee, Defense Subcommittee,
6/ 12/90]

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot
down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel,

"In 1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."
http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

Against the Aegis air-defense cruiser,
Against the Strategic Defense Initiative,

"The technology of national missile defense is almost entirely untested,
will remain largely untested by the middle of next year, and will remain
profoundly fragile for many years to come. The ABM Treaty remains a
cornerstone of the strategic arms reduction process."
http://www.fas.org/faspir/v52n6.htm
"Determined to go ahead with his "Star Wars" anti-missile defense
initiative, George W. Bush indicated a willingness to violate, and thus
abrogate, the Antiballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty negotiated by President
Nixon in 1972."
http://www.sover.net/~mjez/newspapercolumns/outlawnation.htm
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User: "Stuart Grey"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	03 Sep 2004 09:19:14 AM

Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9558E54915A6bti@216.196.97.131:

That's some pretty noticable reading comprehension disability
you have going there! He said ".. our nation is being torn
apart and made weaker because of Democrats manic obsession to
bring down our commander in chief".
That's a sentance, and it says that the Democrats are tearing
apart our nation and making our nation weaker. It does NOT
blame Democrats for Saddam's acts or the acts of Al Qaeda.

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great
danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure
that freedom would not falter. But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

Yes, many of them are, but Sen. Miller did not say or suggest
that.

< snip continued stupid Vos dross >
Learn to read.
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User: "Peter Vos"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	03 Sep 2004 04:54:06 PM

Stuart Grey <stuar.grey@comcast.ns.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95594A77FED6Astuartgreycomcastnsc@216.148.227.77>...

Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9558E54915A6bti@216.196.97.131:

Oh so we are supposed to assume that running a candidate against
Fearless Leader when we have troops stationed overseas is a threat to
the moral fiber of the Republic? Damn... what Commmie fifth columnist
Terrorist sympathizing quiche eating girlie man would possibly want to
do that?

That's a sentance, and it says that the Democrats are tearing
apart our nation and making our nation weaker. It does NOT
blame Democrats for Saddam's acts or the acts of Al Qaeda.

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great
danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure
that freedom would not falter. But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

Yes, many of them are, but Sen. Miller did not say or suggest
that.

< snip continued stupid Vos dross >

Learn to read.

Well why don't you parse that one for us Stu... I mean who exactly
ain't pulling their weight at this time of great danger to make sure
that freedom doesn't falter? You telling me "Mad as Zell" is sticking
a thumb in the eye of the Republicans? Hannity sure as shooting gave
the guy a warm welcome.....
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User: "Two Bears"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:00:42 PM

Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9558E54915A6bti@216.196.97.131>...

No, you liberal *****, the line says "weaker". Learn to read.

"Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats
and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.
But not today."

Wow.... so Democrats are traitors?

==

No, you liberal *****, nothing in that line about traitors. Get a
brain.

"And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American
troops occupiers rather than liberators."

Wow.... he must be REALLY pissed at the President
"Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people --
it's an interesting question....they're not happy they're occupied. I
wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either.

--- George Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

====

I would be pissed at the President for that language also. He should
have known that the liberal dickheads would pick up on it.

"For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the
reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press."

Wow... Ernie Pyle must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech."

Wow... Woody Guthrie must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to
protest."

Wow... Saul Alinski must be spinning in his grave.

"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom
he abuses to burn that flag."

Wow.... King must be spinning in his grave.

===

Let em spin, you liberal *****.

"I could go on and on and on [Senator Kerry opposed] the Patriot
Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel."

Wow... someone should tell the Israelis.... Because they think that
"In
1991, US-provided Patriot missiles largely failed to stop the Scuds."

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/jpost1311.htm

===

Bull fucking horse *****.

"George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let
them go to get a better grip."

Wow... someone should check with George

"[catching bin Laden] is our number one priority. We will not rest
until we find him."
-- Bush, Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea. I really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that
concerned about him."
-- Bush, March 13, 2002

Yep, you liberal *****, things can change in 6 months. Get a life,
a brain, then learn to read.
ta tah...
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User: "Peter Vos"
Title: Re: Zell...more embarrassing than the Bush Twins	02 Sep 2004 07:47:54 PM

(Two Bears) wrote in
news:1881a6a8.0409021600.38a500e8@posting.google.com:
Gee... maybe you should change your nick to two BEERS....

Peter Vos <pvos58@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns9558E54915A6bti@216.196.97.131>...

Caught Zell channeling the hate of his old boss Lester MADdog....
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