http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm
'IF' this concerns 3,48
(http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q48.htm ) another 700 will
be taken but liberated, but these 15 will be executed...
J.
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:BEbNh.10924$x9.9274@edtnps89...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm
'IF' this concerns 3,48
(http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q48.htm ) another 700 will
be taken but liberated, but these 15 will be executed...
J.
You can avoid all that bloodshed by having the Americans release the Iranian
diplomats they've kidnapped in Iraq.
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24 Mar 2007 11:59:35 AM |
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On Mar 24, 3:41 pm, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm
'IF' this concerns 3,48
(http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q48.htm) another 700 will
be taken but liberated, but these 15 will be executed...
J.
There is no 'IF' about it, as it is not what the verse says. The verse
in question refers to seven hundred being captured and then the
drawing of 50/50 lots to decide upon who of the captured will live and
who will die. The conclusion of which is that after the lots have been
drawn, help arrives quickly to save them, but not quick enough before
fifteen of the 350 chosen by lot are killed.
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
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02 Apr 2007 11:08:57 PM |
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"Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
1174755575.578502.272700@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 24, 3:41 pm, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm
'IF' this concerns 3,48
(http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q48.htm) another 700 will
be taken but liberated, but these 15 will be executed...
J.
There is no 'IF' about it, as it is not what the verse says. The verse
in question refers to seven hundred being captured and then the
drawing of 50/50 lots to decide upon who of the captured will live and
who will die. The conclusion of which is that after the lots have been
drawn, help arrives quickly to save them, but not quick enough before
fifteen of the 350 chosen by lot are killed.
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
Well yes there is a 'if', if they capture a 700 men vessel, well, 685 more
to be ^precise, design half of all of them to be executed, these 15 being
first on the list would be the first ones gone.
It is a big IF, merely a IF, but that is why I say 'IF'. Of course with
if's, everything is possible. For instance: 'IF' you were not an idiot, you
would see the pertinence of the 'IF'.
J.
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03 Apr 2007 08:29:57 AM |
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On Apr 3, 12:08 am, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Well yes there is a 'if', if they capture a 700 men vessel, well, 685 more
to be ^precise, design half of all of them to be executed, these 15 being
first on the list would be the first ones gone.
It is a big IF, merely a IF, but that is why I say 'IF'. Of course with
if's, everything is possible. For instance: 'IF' you were not an idiot, you
would see the pertinence of the 'IF'.
J.
No if's here:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414760.ece
The botched US raid that led to the hostage crisis
Exclusive Report: How a bid to kidnap Iranian security officials
sparked a diplomatic crisis
By Patrick Cockburn
Published: 03 April 2007
A failed American attempt to abduct two senior Iranian security
officers on an official visit to northern Iraq was the starting pistol
for a crisis that 10 weeks later led to Iranians seizing 15 British
sailors and Marines.
Early on the morning of 11 January, helicopter-born US forces launched
a surprise raid on a long-established Iranian liaison office in the
city of Arbil in Iraqi Kurdistan. They captured five relatively junior
Iranian officials whom the US accuses of being intelligence agents and
still holds.
In reality the US attack had a far more ambitious objective, The
Independent has learned. The aim of the raid, launched without
informing the Kurdish authorities, was to seize two men at the very
heart of the Iranian security establishment.
Better understanding of the seriousness of the US action in Arbil -
and the angry Iranian response to it - should have led Downing Street
and the Ministry of Defence to realise that Iran was likely to
retaliate against American or British forces such as highly vulnerable
Navy search parties in the Gulf. The two senior Iranian officers the
US sought to capture were Mohammed Jafari, the powerful deputy head of
the Iranian National Security Council, and General Minojahar
Frouzanda, the chief of intelligence of the Iranian Revolutionary
Guard, according to Kurdish officials.
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03 Apr 2007 09:24:26 PM |
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On Apr 3, 6:29 am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 3, 12:08 am, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Well yes there is a 'if', if they capture a 700 men vessel, well, 685 more
to be ^precise, design half of all of them to be executed, these 15 being
first on the list would be the first ones gone.
It is a big IF, merely a IF, but that is why I say 'IF'. Of course with
if's, everything is possible. For instance: 'IF' you were not an idiot, you
would see the pertinence of the 'IF'.
J.
No if's here:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2414760.ece
The botched US raid that led to the hostage crisis
Exclusive Report: How a bid to kidnap Iranian security officials
sparked a diplomatic crisis
By Patrick Cockburn
Published: 03 April 2007
A failed American attempt to abduct two senior Iranian security
officers on an official visit to northern Iraq was the starting pistol
for a crisis that 10 weeks later led to Iranians seizing 15 British
sailors and Marines.
[quoting] Intelligence chiefs told of Iran's reprisal threat
Gethin Chamberlain, Tim Shipman and Kay Biouki in Teheran,
Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:54am BST 26/03/2007
[excerpt] British Intelligence chiefs were warned in January to expect
reprisal attacks from Iran after America detained five suspected
Iranian intelligence officers in Iraq.
Although the CIA alert led to the United States raising its official
security threat level throughout the Middle East and elsewhere,
Britain did not follow suit.
The warning came after the US received credible information that
Iranian-backed extremists were plotting attacks on Western targets.
American intelligence analysts told their British counterparts that
the arrest of the five Iranians would have a direct impact on southern
Iraq. Crucially, they warned that there was evidence that Iran
intended to step up attacks in the border area and around Basra, where
British forces are based.
A security source said: "The intelligence was passed to the UK and was
generally disseminated. The intelligence that led to the arrests
showed that Iran was financing and facilitating operations on the
border and in the South.
"But there was no raising of comparative threat levels by the British,
even though the majority of casualties from Iranian weaponry have been
the British, not the Americans. Perhaps we should have been more on
alert." [end excerpt]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/25/wiran125.xml
Early on the morning of 11 January, helicopter-born US forces launched
a surprise raid on a long-established Iranian liaison office in the
city of Arbil in Iraqi Kurdistan. They captured five relatively junior
Iranian officials whom the US accuses of being intelligence agents and
still holds.
[quoting] U.S. sees more evidence of Iran's meddling in Iraq
03 Apr 2007 22:07:08 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Sue Pleming
WASHINGTON, April 3 (Reuters) - The United States has growing evidence
of Tehran's involvement in destabilizing Iraq, with more sophisticated
Iranian weapons being found, a senior State Department official said
on Tuesday.
Jim Jeffrey, principal deputy assistant secretary of State for Near
East Affairs, said Iranian interference in Iraq had intensified in
recent months. Tehran denies this.
"It's growing, it's quite frightening. We are getting much more
accurate indirect fire and we see this as both Iranian munitions and
possibly Iranian training," Jeffrey said in an interview with Reuters.
He said over the last couple of months many more recently manufactured
Iranian rockets and other "modern munitions" had found their way into
Iraq. He did not provide figures.
"It is various caliber mortars and rockets and better, what we call,
fire control," said Jeffrey, whose main dossier is Iran at the State
Department.
Five Iranians were detained by U.S. forces in January in a raid in the
Iraqi town of Arbil. The Iranians have demanded their release and said
they were diplomats.
"The exact details of the linkages are not clear. We are still
investigating this but these were fairly senior IRG personnel, raising
the question of what were they doing in Arbil," Jeffrey said.
Some Iraqi officials have lobbied to get the five released, saying it
might ease the crisis involving Iran's seizure last month of 15
British sailors who Tehran says strayed into Iranian waters. Britain
says they were in Iraqi waters.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03278949.htm
In reality the US attack had a far more ambitious objective, The
Independent has learned. The aim of the raid, launched without
informing the Kurdish authorities, was to seize two men at the very
heart of the Iranian security establishment.
Better understanding of the seriousness of the US action in Arbil -
and the angry Iranian response to it - should have led Downing Street
and the Ministry of Defence to realise that Iran was likely to
retaliate against American or British forces such as highly vulnerable
Navy search parties in the Gulf. The two senior Iranian officers the
US sought to capture were Mohammed Jafari, the powerful deputy head of
the Iranian National Security Council, and General Minojahar
Frouzanda, the chief of intelligence of the Iranian Revolutionary
Guard, according to Kurdish officials.
[quoting] U.S. Long Worried That Iran Supplied Arms in Iraq
By MICHAEL R. GORDON and SCOTT SHANE
Published: March 27, 2007
[excerpt] Some Democrats in Congress, while critical of many aspects
of Bush administration policy toward Iraq and Iran, say they are
persuaded by the intelligence pointing to an Iranian role in supplying
E.F.P.'s. Debate remains about whether Iran's top leaders ordered the
supply of the weapons, about whether the Iranian-supplied devices can
be copied in Iraq and about American policy toward Tehran. [end
excerpt]
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/27/world/middleeast/27weapons.html?ei=5088&en=d6220ec1bd658169&ex=1332648000&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
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04 Apr 2007 05:15:40 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Five Iranians were detained by U.S. forces in January in a raid in the
Iraqi town of Arbil. The Iranians have demanded their release and said
they were diplomats.
"The exact details of the linkages are not clear. We are still
investigating this but these were fairly senior IRG personnel, raising
the question of what were they doing in Arbil," Jeffrey said.
I'll bet the Iranians are wondering the same thing about the
US.. what are our senior people doing in Iraq since it's not
our country.
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04 Apr 2007 08:12:25 AM |
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On Apr 4, 3:15 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Five Iranians were detained by U.S. forces in January in a raid in the
Iraqi town of Arbil. The Iranians have demanded their release and said
they were diplomats.
"The exact details of the linkages are not clear. We are still
investigating this but these were fairly senior IRG personnel, raising
the question of what were they doing in Arbil," Jeffrey said.
I'll bet the Iranians are wondering the same thing about the
US.. what are our senior people doing in Iraq since it's not
our country.
The Iraqi Prime Minister, and his government, want our forces to stay
until Iraqi forces are ready to take over security. Meanwhile, IRG
personnel are in Iraq in an effort to destabilize that country. The
same IRG that backed Hezbollah's most recent war against Israel.
[quoting] Elite Revolutionary Guard Broadens Its Influence in Iran
Unit That Captured Britons Has Sway In Politics, Economy
By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, April 1, 2007
Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps, the elite unit at the heart of the
latest Middle East crisis, has greater power today than at any point
since the revolution's early days to export Islamic militancy and
challenge the West's presence in the region, say U.S. officials and
Iran experts.
Its naval forces abducted 15 British sailors and marines nine days
ago. Its special forces unit is operating deep in Iraq, providing
militias with deadly roadside explosives used against American troops,
U.S. officials say. It supplied missiles used by Hezbollah last summer
in the longest war Arabs ever fought with Israel. And it now plays the
largest role in Iran's ambitious military industries, including
attempted acquisition of nuclear weapons and surface-to-surface
missiles, according to an upcoming book by Anthony Cordesman of the
Center for Strategic and International Studies.
But almost three decades after the 1979 revolution, the Revolutionary
Guard has also become a leading political and economic force in Iran.
One of its veterans, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, became Iran's president in
2005. The force and a network of current and former commanders have
also moved into Iran's oil and gas business, won bids on major
government construction contracts, and even gained lucrative
franchises such as Mercedes-Benz dealerships, the sources say.
"The Revolutionary Guards are quickly emerging as the most prominent
actor in Iran," said Karim Sadjadpour of the Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace. "They're playing an increasingly active role on
the domestic political scene, have enormous economic assets and
interests, are a key player in the nuclear program, and are
essentially running Iranian activities in Iraq and Lebanon."
The Guard's high profile is one of the reasons that the assets of its
top officials were frozen, because of ties to sensitive nuclear and
missile programs, under two U.N. resolutions passed on March 24 and
Dec. 23. Among the officials cited were the Guard's top commander,
Maj. Gen. Yahya Rahim Safavi, and deputy commander, Brig. Gen. Morteza
Rezaie, as well as the heads of the Guard's ground forces, navy, Quds
Force and Basij (Mobilization of the Oppressed) volunteers.
The widening presence of its Quds Force in Iraq is the reason U.S.
troops launched two raids in December and January on Iran's operating
bases, detaining seven men in Baghdad and Irbil. Five are still held,
although Iranian officials expected them to be released on the Iranian
new year, March 21.
Although neither Tehran nor London has linked the events, the 15
Britons were captured two days after Tehran expected the five in Iraq
to be freed and the day before the U.N. vote freezing the assets of
seven top Revolutionary Guard commanders.
In his first public comments on the matter, Ahmadinejad said yesterday
that the Guard had demonstrated "skill and bravery" in detaining the
Britons. [end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/31/AR2007033101105.html?hpid=topnews
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04 Apr 2007 05:50:52 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 4, 3:15 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Five Iranians were detained by U.S. forces in January in a raid in
the Iraqi town of Arbil. The Iranians have demanded their release and
said they were diplomats.
"The exact details of the linkages are not clear. We are still
investigating this but these were fairly senior IRG personnel,
raising the question of what were they doing in Arbil," Jeffrey said.
I'll bet the Iranians are wondering the same thing about the
US.. what are our senior people doing in Iraq since it's not
our country.
The Iraqi Prime Minister, and his government, want our forces to stay
until Iraqi forces are ready to take over security. Meanwhile, IRG
personnel are in Iraq in an effort to destabilize that country. The
same IRG that backed Hezbollah's most recent war against Israel.
You mean Maliki wants us troops to stay and catch bullets
while he figures out his exit strategy for the day when
us troops do leave. After all, the Iraqi Presidency isn't
worth losing one's head over.
The majority sect in Iraq, the shiites, want to be better
friends with Iran, not with the US.
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04 Apr 2007 10:45:59 PM |
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On Apr 4, 3:50 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 4, 3:15 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Five Iranians were detained by U.S. forces in January in a raid in
the Iraqi town of Arbil. The Iranians have demanded their release and
said they were diplomats.
"The exact details of the linkages are not clear. We are still
investigating this but these were fairly senior IRG personnel,
raising the question of what were they doing in Arbil," Jeffrey said.
I'll bet the Iranians are wondering the same thing about the
US.. what are our senior people doing in Iraq since it's not
our country.
The Iraqi Prime Minister, and his government, want our forces to stay
until Iraqi forces are ready to take over security. Meanwhile, IRG
personnel are in Iraq in an effort to destabilize that country. The
same IRG that backed Hezbollah's most recent war against Israel.
You mean Maliki wants us troops to stay and catch bullets
while he figures out his exit strategy for the day when
us troops do leave. After all, the Iraqi Presidency isn't
worth losing one's head over.
He's the Prime Minister. The Iraqi President is someone else, and the
Iraqi President's power is limited.
The majority sect in Iraq, the shiites, want to be better
friends with Iran, not with the US.
That's fine, as long as Iran doesn't engage in tactics intended to
destabilize the Iraqi government. Recently, Prime Minister al-Maliki
reached out to Sunni tribal leaders in an effort to reconcile Shiite/
Sunni differences in Iraq. He also said he wants Iran to stop
promoting violence in Iraq. He wants his government to survive, and
foreign groups attempting to destabilize the Iraqi democracy works
against the Prime Minister's own interests.
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06 Apr 2007 09:09:09 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The Iraqi Prime Minister, and his government, want our forces to stay
until Iraqi forces are ready to take over security. Meanwhile, IRG
personnel are in Iraq in an effort to destabilize that country. The
same IRG that backed Hezbollah's most recent war against Israel.
You mean Maliki wants us troops to stay and catch bullets
while he figures out his exit strategy for the day when
us troops do leave. After all, the Iraqi Presidency isn't
worth losing one's head over.
He's the Prime Minister. The Iraqi President is someone else, and the
Iraqi President's power is limited.
The prime minister's power will be severely limited also, once
the civil war kicks into high gear.
Give it a couple years.. US troops will withdraw because we're
not accomplishing anything except making dead bodies.. then
Iran will back the shiites, Saudi Arabia and Egypt will back
the sunnis, the kurds will try to become autonomous and Turkey
will overrun their asses.. we'll have a regular regional
conflagration. This may have been what bush wanted all along.
After all, he is sending US dollars to support various militant
factions (some of which are killing US troops).
I'll bet the saudi royals fucking LOVE bush at this point.
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05 Apr 2007 08:20:36 AM |
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On 5 Apr, 05:45, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 4, 3:50 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 4, 3:15 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Five Iranians were detained by U.S. forces in January in a raid in
the Iraqi town of Arbil. The Iranians have demanded their release =
and
said they were diplomats.
"The exact details of the linkages are not clear. We are still
investigating this but these were fairly senior IRG personnel,
raising the question of what were they doing in Arbil," Jeffrey sa=
id.
I'll bet the Iranians are wondering the same thing about the
US.. what are our senior people doing in Iraq since it's not
our country.
The Iraqi Prime Minister, and his government, want our forces to stay
until Iraqi forces are ready to take over security. Meanwhile, IRG
personnel are in Iraq in an effort to destabilize that country. The
same IRG that backed Hezbollah's most recent war against Israel.
You mean Maliki wants us troops to stay and catch bullets
while he figures out his exit strategy for the day when
us troops do leave. After all, the Iraqi Presidency isn't
worth losing one's head over.
He's the Prime Minister. The Iraqi President is someone else, and the
Iraqi President's power is limited.
The majority sect in Iraq, the shiites, want to be better
friends with Iran, not with the US.
That's fine, as long as Iran doesn't engage in tactics intended to
destabilize the Iraqi government.
And the seppo's did what?
Recently, Prime Minister al-Maliki
reached out to Sunni tribal leaders in an effort to reconcile Shiite/
Sunni differences in Iraq. He also said he wants Iran to stop
promoting violence in Iraq. He wants his government to survive, and
foreign groups attempting to destabilize the Iraqi democracy works
against the Prime Minister's own interests.- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
There's no democracy in Iraq douglas. Only a complete twat would
believe the propaganda ***** from the yanks. There is a civil war
caused by American greed. End of story!
WH
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05 Apr 2007 09:36:02 PM |
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On Apr 5, 6:20 am, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 5 Apr, 05:45, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 4, 3:50 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 4, 3:15 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Five Iranians were detained by U.S. forces in January in a raid =
in
the Iraqi town of Arbil. The Iranians have demanded their releas=
e and
said they were diplomats.
"The exact details of the linkages are not clear. We are still
investigating this but these were fairly senior IRG personnel,
raising the question of what were they doing in Arbil," Jeffrey =
said.
I'll bet the Iranians are wondering the same thing about the
US.. what are our senior people doing in Iraq since it's not
our country.
The Iraqi Prime Minister, and his government, want our forces to st=
ay
until Iraqi forces are ready to take over security. Meanwhile, IRG
personnel are in Iraq in an effort to destabilize that country. The
same IRG that backed Hezbollah's most recent war against Israel.
You mean Maliki wants us troops to stay and catch bullets
while he figures out his exit strategy for the day when
us troops do leave. After all, the Iraqi Presidency isn't
worth losing one's head over.
He's the Prime Minister. The Iraqi President is someone else, and the
Iraqi President's power is limited.
The majority sect in Iraq, the shiites, want to be better
friends with Iran, not with the US.
That's fine, as long as Iran doesn't engage in tactics intended to
destabilize the Iraqi government.
And the seppo's did what?
Removed a brutal dictator so that the Iraqi people could elect a
representative government. Remember all those purple ink stained
fingers being waved in the face of the terrorists?
Recently, Prime Minister al-Maliki
reached out to Sunni tribal leaders in an effort to reconcile Shiite/
Sunni differences in Iraq. He also said he wants Iran to stop
promoting violence in Iraq. He wants his government to survive, and
foreign groups attempting to destabilize the Iraqi democracy works
against the Prime Minister's own interests.- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
There's no democracy in Iraq douglas.
Yes there is. The Iraqi people elected the current government.
Only a complete twat would
believe the propaganda ***** from the yanks.
You're very good at name calling, and not much else.
There is a civil war caused by American greed.
Oh that's right, you think Iraq was a peaceful, serene little place
under the brutal dictator's regime. It may have appeared that way on
the surface, but you should really look a little deeper than the
surface. If you do, you'll understand:
-- that the brutal dictator and his sadistic sons tortured children
while their parents were forced to watch --
-- had the wives of political foes gang raped while their husbands
were forced to watch --
-- that the brutal dictator filled mass graves with hundreds of
thousands of Iraqis --
It's a long list. Look into it.
End of story!
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06 Apr 2007 08:59:25 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You mean Maliki wants us troops to stay and catch bullets
while he figures out his exit strategy for the day when
us troops do leave. After all, the Iraqi Presidency isn't
worth losing one's head over.
He's the Prime Minister. The Iraqi President is someone else, and the
Iraqi President's power is limited.
The majority sect in Iraq, the shiites, want to be better
friends with Iran, not with the US.
That's fine, as long as Iran doesn't engage in tactics intended to
destabilize the Iraqi government.
And the seppo's did what?
Removed a brutal dictator so that the Iraqi people could elect a
representative government. Remember all those purple ink stained
fingers being waved in the face of the terrorists?
Actually stevie, that WAS the 'terrorists' waving those purple
fingers ! The guys setting off all the bombs are the same people
who voted. You MUST have figured this out by now.
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06 Apr 2007 11:00:06 PM |
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On Apr 6, 6:59 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You mean Maliki wants us troops to stay and catch bullets
while he figures out his exit strategy for the day when
us troops do leave. After all, the Iraqi Presidency isn't
worth losing one's head over.
He's the Prime Minister. The Iraqi President is someone else, and the
Iraqi President's power is limited.
The majority sect in Iraq, the shiites, want to be better
friends with Iran, not with the US.
That's fine, as long as Iran doesn't engage in tactics intended to
destabilize the Iraqi government.
And the seppo's did what?
Removed a brutal dictator so that the Iraqi people could elect a
representative government. Remember all those purple ink stained
fingers being waved in the face of the terrorists?
Actually stevie, that WAS the 'terrorists' waving those purple
fingers !
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling stations
in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed. The turnout was
high, and the people holding up their purple ink stained fingers were
defiant.
The guys setting off all the bombs are the same people
who voted. You MUST have figured this out by now.
As usual, you're just wrong. But keep trying. You might actually get
something right someday!
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| User: "Perseid" |
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07 Apr 2007 10:16:58 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Removed a brutal dictator so that the Iraqi people could elect a
representative government. Remember all those purple ink stained
fingers being waved in the face of the terrorists?
Actually stevie, that WAS the 'terrorists' waving those purple
fingers !
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling stations
in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
Wait, no, I'm getting a premonition.. you're going to
accuse the democratic congressmen of wishing evil upon
those poor Iraqis !
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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07 Apr 2007 01:37:57 PM |
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On Apr 7, 8:16 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Removed a brutal dictator so that the Iraqi people could elect a
representative government. Remember all those purple ink stained
fingers being waved in the face of the terrorists?
Actually stevie, that WAS the 'terrorists' waving those purple
fingers !
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling stations
in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
And yet you tried to say the people holding up their purple ink
stained fingers were the terrorists, when it was the terrorists who
were trying to STOP people from holding up their purple ink stained
fingers. Really, what IS going on in that empty head of yours?
Wait, no, I'm getting a premonition.. you're going to
accuse the democratic congressmen of wishing evil upon
those poor Iraqis !
Sheesh, what a moron.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: 15 seized in Iraqi waters |
07 Apr 2007 06:28:55 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling stations
in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
And yet you tried to say the people holding up their purple ink
stained fingers were the terrorists, when it was the terrorists who
were trying to STOP people from holding up their purple ink stained
fingers.
I rest my case.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
Really, what IS going on in that empty head of yours?
Wait, no, I'm getting a premonition.. you're going to
accuse the democratic congressmen of wishing evil upon
those poor Iraqis !
Sheesh, what a moron.
Did you have some point of argument, *****-for-brains ?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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07 Apr 2007 07:11:53 PM |
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On Apr 7, 4:28 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling stations
in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
And yet you tried to say the people holding up their purple ink
stained fingers were the terrorists, when it was the terrorists who
were trying to STOP people from holding up their purple ink stained
fingers.
I rest my case.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
The voter turnout was high. The terrorists were trying to hold turnout
down. The terrorists failed. The people with the purple ink stained
fingers prevailed.
Really, what IS going on in that empty head of yours?
Wait, no, I'm getting a premonition.. you're going to
accuse the democratic congressmen of wishing evil upon
those poor Iraqis !
Sheesh, what a moron.
Did you have some point of argument, *****-for-brains ?
That's what I've been wondering about some of your posts lately.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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07 Apr 2007 07:56:09 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 7, 4:28 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling
stations in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
And yet you tried to say the people holding up their purple ink
stained fingers were the terrorists, when it was the terrorists who
were trying to STOP people from holding up their purple ink stained
fingers.
I rest my case.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
The voter turnout was high. The terrorists were trying to hold turnout
down.
You mean the sunni (Iraqi) terrorists, the sunni (al-qaeda)
terrorists, the shiite (Iraqi) terrorists, or the shiite
(Iranian) terrorists ?
Perhaps you were referring to another group altogether..
the foreign militants from Syria, Jordan, Egypt ?
Like I said.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
The terrorists failed. The people with the purple ink stained
fingers prevailed.
Really, what IS going on in that empty head of yours?
Wait, no, I'm getting a premonition.. you're going to
accuse the democratic congressmen of wishing evil upon
those poor Iraqis !
Sheesh, what a moron.
Did you have some point of argument, *****-for-brains ?
That's what I've been wondering about some of your posts lately.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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07 Apr 2007 08:47:45 PM |
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On Apr 7, 5:56 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 7, 4:28 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling
stations in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
And yet you tried to say the people holding up their purple ink
stained fingers were the terrorists, when it was the terrorists who
were trying to STOP people from holding up their purple ink stained
fingers.
I rest my case.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
The voter turnout was high. The terrorists were trying to hold turnout
down.
You mean the sunni (Iraqi) terrorists, the sunni (al-qaeda)
terrorists, the shiite (Iraqi) terrorists, or the shiite
(Iranian) terrorists ?
Perhaps you were referring to another group altogether..
the foreign militants from Syria, Jordan, Egypt ?
Like I said.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
[quoting] Most Iraqis Remain Committed to Elections, Poll Finds
Despite Insurgent Threats and Lack of Democratic Tradition, 80 Percent
Say They Are Likely to Vote
By Karl Vick
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, January 21, 2005
BAGHDAD, Jan. 20 -- An overwhelming majority of Iraqis continue to say
they intend to vote on Jan. 30 even as insurgents press attacks aimed
at rendering the elections a failure, according to a new public
opinion survey. [end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24674-2005Jan20.html
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: 15 seized in Iraqi waters |
08 Apr 2007 06:43:02 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 7, 5:56 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 7, 4:28 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling
stations in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More
specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
And yet you tried to say the people holding up their purple ink
stained fingers were the terrorists, when it was the terrorists
who
were trying to STOP people from holding up their purple ink
stained
fingers.
I rest my case.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
The voter turnout was high. The terrorists were trying to hold
turnout
down.
You mean the sunni (Iraqi) terrorists, the sunni (al-qaeda)
terrorists, the shiite (Iraqi) terrorists, or the shiite
(Iranian) terrorists ?
Perhaps you were referring to another group altogether..
the foreign militants from Syria, Jordan, Egypt ?
Like I said.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
[quoting] Most Iraqis Remain Committed to Elections, Poll Finds
Despite Insurgent Threats and Lack of Democratic Tradition, 80 Percent
Say They Are Likely to Vote
So, you can tell who all those masked, dark-skinned men are
just with this one article ? Amazing !!
By Karl Vick
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, January 21, 2005
BAGHDAD, Jan. 20 -- An overwhelming majority of Iraqis continue to say
they intend to vote on Jan. 30 even as insurgents press attacks aimed
at rendering the elections a failure, according to a new public
opinion survey. [end excerpt]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24674-2005Jan20.html
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: 15 seized in Iraqi waters |
08 Apr 2007 10:22:05 PM |
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On Apr 8, 4:43 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 7, 5:56 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 7, 4:28 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Actually randie, the terrorists threatened to blow up polling
stations in an effort to hold down the turnout. They failed.
You sound just as confused as GWB.. they *SUCCEEDED* in blowing
up the car right ouside those polling stations. More
specifically,
the shiites guarded the polling stations, while the sunnis voted
then set off a bomb later that afternoon.
And yet you tried to say the people holding up their purple ink
stained fingers were the terrorists, when it was the terrorists
who
were trying to STOP people from holding up their purple ink
stained
fingers.
I rest my case.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
The voter turnout was high. The terrorists were trying to hold
turnout
down.
You mean the sunni (Iraqi) terrorists, the sunni (al-qaeda)
terrorists, the shiite (Iraqi) terrorists, or the shiite
(Iranian) terrorists ?
Perhaps you were referring to another group altogether..
the foreign militants from Syria, Jordan, Egypt ?
Like I said.. you can't tell who the real 'terrorists' are !!
[quoting] Most Iraqis Remain Committed to Elections, Poll Finds
Despite Insurgent Threats and Lack of Democratic Tradition, 80 Percent
Say They Are Likely to Vote
So, you can tell who all those masked, dark-skinned men are
just with this one article ? Amazing !!
Are you purposely obtuse? You can't actually be this obtuse in real
life, or can you?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: 15 seized in Iraqi waters |
07 Apr 2007 03:07:51 PM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
You sound just as confused as GWB..
Believe... you must believe... OBEY YOUR TV!...
Obey... believe all that it tells you...
The only difference between you and a bushbot
is the god that you obey & trust.
Congratulations.
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| User: "Doc" |
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| Title: Re: 15 seized in Iraqi waters |
07 Apr 2007 09:02:04 PM |
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"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175976471.887244.85420@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
You sound just as confused as GWB..
Believe... you must believe... OBEY YOUR TV!...
Obey... believe all that it tells you...
The only difference between you and a bushbot
is the god that you obey & trust.
Congratulations.
Yeah, congrats, on confusing us more on your stance on Iraq, and
everything else, too.
But, some of us realize you possess amazing secret information and
privileged access to the most hidden workings of the illuminati, and are
able to pierce the thick foggy veil the elitists have produced.
Only you can really see the reality clearly, and know what the inner
motivations are...yes, only you are privy to the cosmic illumination that
eludes us ordinary mortals.
Only you...
you...you...you... =))
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| User: "Perseid" |
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07 Apr 2007 06:19:31 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat the
Words
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
You sound just as confused as GWB..
Believe... you must believe... OBEY YOUR TV!...
Obey... believe all that it tells you...
The only difference between you and a bushbot
is the god that you obey & trust.
Congratulations.
Are you really homosexual JTEM ?
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| User: "Doc" |
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| Title: Re: 15 seized in Iraqi waters |
07 Apr 2007 08:55:47 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns990BB03E61753rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat
the
Words
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
You sound just as confused as GWB..
Believe... you must believe... OBEY YOUR TV!...
Obey... believe all that it tells you...
The only difference between you and a bushbot
is the god that you obey & trust.
Congratulations.
Are you really homosexual JTEM ?
LOL...
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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24 Mar 2007 12:05:39 PM |
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On Mar 24, 8:41 am, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm
'IF' this concerns 3,48
(http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q48.htm) another 700 will
be taken but liberated, but these 15 will be executed...
J.
You're so full of stinking horseshit, Jeano. You and your
'interpretations' are little more than your prejudiced attitude
towards the Muslims, and your desire to see them conquered, as well as
your sick dreams of an apocalyptic future for humankind. You're
grasping for straws, as usual.
Docrodile
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25 Mar 2007 12:40:20 AM |
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On Mar 25, 1:41=C2=A0am, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm
'IF' this concerns 3,48
(http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q48.htm) another 700 will
be taken but liberated, but these 15 will be executed...
J.
They won't be executed. They'll do a trade with the US/UK.
No need for any shedding of blood.
15 Brits for 6 Iranian diplomats.
Though this matter could be drawn out for quite a few months & things
could get quite heated on both sides, until this matter is resolved
peacefully.
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
=3D=3D=3D=3D00=3D=3D=3D=3D
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