Interesting, but how do you know if the text you
are reading IS prophetic, unless you wait for the
event to which it refers to happen?

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On 15 Feb 2007 17:10:20 -0800, "JTEM" <jte...@gmail.com>
wrote about the prophetic style of Nostradamus:
*> prophecies are supposed to tell

you what is going to happen. If that was too subtle
for you let me spell it out: Prophecies tell you
what is going to happen BEFORE -- and not after --
they actually happen.

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Interesting, but how do you know if the text you are reading IS
prophetic, unless you wait for the event to which it refers to
happen? And then, once it happens, are you going to say that the
text, which you now know to be prophetic because the event has
happened, is no longer prophetic because you had to wait for the
event to happen to see that it was prophetic?
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Don't answer that one, your brain might explode.
*>NOBODY was sitting around in 1720 thinking, "Say,

in only 100 years the Duke of Berry is going to
have his throat slashed." Nope. NOBODY saw the
slightest connection until AFTWARDS.

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Actually he was stabbed in the chest: "gorge", in French, also
refers to the chest. Which explains why a "soutien-gorge" (a bra)
is not worn around the neck! ;-)
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As to your comment above, you discard the fact that Nostradamus
DID NOT WANT anyone to guess the meaning of his texts until AFTER
the events happen. You might find that odd, but those who have
studied his texts over the last 400 years have never been able to
see what they mean BEFORE the events happen or have begun to
happen.
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You might want to know why Nostradamus did not want anyone to see
the meaning of his texts before the events they depict have
happened.
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If you were able to think and were not a mere troll in this
NewsGroup, you would have realized that Nostradamus could not
have survived, and his works would not have been allowed to
survive, had he clearly spoken of... the slaughter of French
Protestants by the Valois, the end of the French monarchy, the
European World Wars, the murder of a pope, etc.
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Forgive him for having been much more intelligent than you are,
but... it happens, you know.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latr=E9mouille
February 16, 2007http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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On 15 Feb 2007 17:10:20 -0800, "JTEM" <jte...@gmail.com>
wrote about the prophetic style of Nostradamus:
*> prophecies are supposed to tell

you what is going to happen. If that was too subtle
for you let me spell it out: Prophecies tell you
what is going to happen BEFORE -- and not after --
they actually happen.

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Interesting, but how do you know if the text you are reading IS
prophetic, unless you wait for the event to which it refers to
happen? And then, once it happens, are you going to say that the
text, which you now know to be prophetic because the event has
happened, is no longer prophetic because you had to wait for the
event to happen to see that it was prophetic?
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Don't answer that one, your brain might explode.
*>NOBODY was sitting around in 1720 thinking, "Say,

in only 100 years the Duke of Berry is going to
have his throat slashed." Nope. NOBODY saw the
slightest connection until AFTWARDS.

*
Actually he was stabbed in the chest: "gorge", in French, also
refers to the chest. Which explains why a "soutien-gorge" (a bra)
is not worn around the neck! ;-)
*
As to your comment above, you discard the fact that Nostradamus
DID NOT WANT anyone to guess the meaning of his texts until AFTER
the events happen. You might find that odd, but those who have
studied his texts over the last 400 years have never been able to
see what they mean BEFORE the events happen or have begun to
happen.
*
You might want to know why Nostradamus did not want anyone to see
the meaning of his texts before the events they depict have
happened.
*
If you were able to think and were not a mere troll in this
NewsGroup, you would have realized that Nostradamus could not
have survived, and his works would not have been allowed to
survive, had he clearly spoken of... the slaughter of French
Protestants by the Valois, the end of the French monarchy, the
European World Wars, the murder of a pope, etc.
*
Forgive him for having been much more intelligent than you are,
but... it happens, you know.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latr=E9mouille
February 16, 2007http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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Not one half

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On 14 Feb 2007 13:21:20 -0800, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> unwittingly demonstrated that his
idol, Edgar Leoni, is an author devoid of the broadmindedness
necessary for a proper understanding of Nostradamus' texts.
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Case in point, quatrain III-96:
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---------------- C E N T V R I E___T I E R C E. --------------
---------------------- (=E9dition de 1555) ---------------------
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---- 96 - Chef de F O V S S A N aura gorge couper ------------
--------- Par le ducteur du limier & leurier: ----------------
--------- Le faict patr=E9 par ceux du mont T A R P E E --------
--------- Saturne en Leo X I I I. de Feurier. ----------------
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It is hopeless for a non French-speaking reader to get at the
obscure meaning of many features of this poem. Assuming that the
quote by the Aussie Troll is authentic, let's see what Leoni is
alleged to have written about it:

*>CIIIQ 96. Le Pelletier, on the basis of the date, triumphantly applies

this one to the assassination of his Messiah's father, the Duke of
Berry, on February 13, 1820. But getting him to be the Chief of
Fossano, and getting Louvel, his assassin, to be a leader of
bloodhounds and greyhounds, is a bit too ridiculous. [...]

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For a very narrow-minded person, yes, it is ridiculous. For
intelligent people, Le Pelletier's demonstration of the identity
of the "Chef de F O V S S A N" of line 1 is unescapable. It takes
a little genealogy to do it. Once upon a time, Fossano used to be
part of the Kingdom of Sardinia. Once upon a time, the maternal
grandfather of the Duke of Berry, used to be King of Sardinia.

the grandson is, figuratively speaking, a member of that royal
family, to call him the "Chef de F O V S S A N", a fictitious
title, is far-fetched but quite appropriate.

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Now, the assassin, Louvel. Unfortunately Leoni does not appear to
be sufficiently familiar with the French language to see how
formidably genial Nostradamus is. In French, the officer of the
royal staff responsible for the hunting dogs is called a
louvetier. Anyone having researched that crime knows that Louvel
was not a louvetier, he was a part-time stable hand in the King's
own stables.
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Line 2 speaks of the keeper of two types of hunting dogs, i.e.
"limier & leurier".

speaks of a louve...tier.

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Being also poorly knowledgeable of astrology as he is of French,
Leoni quotes another bloke who didn't get it either:

*> Furthermore,

Wollner finds that this was not one of the February 13's when the
configuration occurred. The years, for seven centuries, are 1565,
1595, 1624, 1654, 1683, 1713, 1742, 1771, 1801, 1830, 1860, 1889,
1919, 1948, 1977, 2007, 2036, 2066, 2095, 2124 and 2154.

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Leoni was not aware that the "Saturne en Leo" of line 4, in
addition to appear to be an astrological position, also has an
astrological meaning: Death in the royal family.

Berry was the King's nephew. His murder plunged the royal family
in mourning.

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Let's not forget that Nostradamus warns fools, astrologers and
foreigners to stay away from his prophecy. Foolish astrologers
will attempt to pierce the veil of the future by thinking that
Nostradamus uses planetary positions where he does not, even
though he appears to be so doing.
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As to fools, our Aussie Troll fits the bill magnificiently.
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With respect to foreigners, both Leoni and Wollner appear to be
so. Was Wollner also an astrologer? Then the tableau is complete.
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And of course, the most obvious clue is not important enough for
Leoni: The crime occurred on February 13, 1820, and line 4 names
"X I I I. de Feurier" as the date of the crime. Perfect!

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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latr=E9mouille
February 15, 2007http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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