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"Peter K." |
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30 Jan 2004 10:50:40 AM |
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2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom CONCLUSION:
Fact 1: Malachy's is prophecy is near it's end and Olivetan
Saint-Benedict's on the last Pope.
Fact 2: The Third Saint's prophecy is also about: The very LAST POPE
and "a RENEWED Crusader venture led by a new "KING" of a country
during the final days of CHAOS."
Fact 3: A EXACT event already occured similar to the FUTURE prophecy
in Fact 2 (occured "before" the prophecy)
HISTORICAL FACT: The "SAME TIME" the Mongol Empire expanded (Mongol
perhaps Magog held back by a legendary wall buit by the "WEST" Greek
Alexander the Great) the WEST Crusaders were ALSO conquering and
forming a ROMAN CATHOLIC EMPIRE for the POPE.
Fact 5: The Mongols invaded Jerusalem in the year "1260" (perhaps the
3 1/2 days after Christ's NEW calendar 0 AC: NEW calendar perhaps NEW
seven approach).
Fact 6: The only King reknown as a 'SAINT-KING' of FRANCE that led the
Crusaders died in 1270. (Similar to Lemesurier's X.72 New King of
France)
Fact 7: Evil Mongol Ghengis Khans words: "(The HUNT:) True Joy is to
see your ennemies as you kill them and then take their wives and
daughters". Ghengis died suddenly during a game of animal hunting at
the very time the East Mongols were about to invade the West
Europe...the invasion never took place as the armies returned to
debate over his succession.
Fact 8: Revelation perhaps speaks of a renewed/revided Empire: "The
Beast (not Daniel's Greek 'Goat' or Persian 'Ram' empires) was, is
not, and is to come" and "The Beast is of the seven (of the seven past
empires) and is also an eight (meaning the same empire comes back
'TWICE' = 'renewed/revived/resurrected')".
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Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
2. A Prophecy speaks of two exact future events.
3. Bible's Revelation perhaps also speaks of a repeated event.
Conclusion:
Nostradamus X.72 which is also on this present time (1999) may very
well depict the beginning of the two remaining Popes and the future
Chaos thus making it very possible that it CONTAINS TWO MEANINGS:
Both::
1. PETER LEMESURIER'S 'New King OF Angoumois France to lead the West
Crusaders
and
2. Erica Cheetham's New King of the Mongols to lead the East (which
was Lemesurier's interprations is his first book: 'Nostradamus the
next fifty years'.
Copyright 2004:
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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| Title: Re: 2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
31 Jan 2004 07:41:22 AM |
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(Peter K.) wrote in message news:<7f35df4b.0401300850.6ec4e39f@posting.google.com>...
Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom CONCLUSION:
Fact 1: Malachy's is prophecy is near it's end and Olivetan
Saint-Benedict's on the last Pope.
Fact 2: The Third Saint's prophecy is also about: The very LAST POPE
and "a RENEWED Crusader venture led by a new "KING" of a country
during the final days of CHAOS."
Yes but when?
Fact 3: A EXACT event already occured similar to the FUTURE prophecy
in Fact 2 (occured "before" the prophecy)
HISTORICAL FACT: The "SAME TIME" the Mongol Empire expanded (Mongol
perhaps Magog held back by a legendary wall buit by the "WEST" Greek
Alexander the Great) the WEST Crusaders were ALSO conquering and
forming a ROMAN CATHOLIC EMPIRE for the POPE.
Fact 5: The Mongols invaded Jerusalem in the year "1260" (perhaps the
3 1/2 days after Christ's NEW calendar 0 AC: NEW calendar perhaps NEW
seven approach).
Fact 6: The only King reknown as a 'SAINT-KING' of FRANCE that led the
Crusaders died in 1270. (Similar to Lemesurier's X.72 New King of
France)
Fact 7: Evil Mongol Ghengis Khans words: "(The HUNT:) True Joy is to
see your ennemies as you kill them and then take their wives and
daughters". Ghengis died suddenly during a game of animal hunting at
the very time the East Mongols were about to invade the West
Europe...the invasion never took place as the armies returned to
debate over his succession.
The real quote:
Genghis believed that a man's fulfilment was to be found in the
intoxication of battle, On one occasion he asked Bo'orchu and
other comrades what they thought was man's highest bliss. They
answered that it lay in falconry. when one rode out in spring on
a sturdy gelding, the hunting falcon on the wrist and loosed it
against the prey. Genghis answered: 'You are mistaken. Man's
greatest good fortune is to chase and defeat his enemy, seize his
total possessions. leave his married women weeping and wailing,
ride his gelding, use the bodies of his women as a nightshirt and
support, gazing upon and kissing their rosy breasts, sucking their
lips which are as sweet as the berries of their breasts.
Fact 8: Revelation perhaps speaks of a renewed/revided Empire: "The
Beast (not Daniel's Greek 'Goat' or Persian 'Ram' empires) was, is
not, and is to come" and "The Beast is of the seven (of the seven past
empires) and is also an eight (meaning the same empire comes back
'TWICE' = 'renewed/revived/resurrected')".
We are not in Revelation times!
Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
2. A Prophecy speaks of two exact future events.
3. Bible's Revelation perhaps also speaks of a repeated event.
Conclusion:
Nostradamus X.72 which is also on this present time (1999) may very
well depict the beginning of the two remaining Popes and the future
Chaos thus making it very possible that it CONTAINS TWO MEANINGS:
Not really it is a thumbnail, of Genneral Perves Musharaff his life in
power and his part in the decline of western hegemony.
Both::
1. PETER LEMESURIER'S 'New King OF Angoumois France to lead the West
Crusaders
and
2. Erica Cheetham's New King of the Mongols to lead the East (which
was Lemesurier's interprations is his first book: 'Nostradamus the
next fifty years'.
Just take a Leoni from 1961 no agenda no *****:
CXQ 72. Since this is the only dated one (not counting
configurations), with a date still to come, it is of great interest.
In September, 1999, a "King of Terror" will come. "From the sky if
taken literally, would be both real prophecy and a justification for
putting some credence in its possibilities of fulfillment. Line 3 must
needs hold the key to all of it. If Angolmois is Angoumois (capital,
Angouleme), we presumably have a reference to the House of Angouleme,
which provided France with Francis I, his son Henry II and his
grandsons Francis II, Charles IX and Henry III, though the name
"Valois" was left officially. Yet neither Francis nor Henry would seem
to qualify as a King of Terror, nor is there any such in the history
of the region. Unless some third possible meaning is discovered, it
must be noted that Angolmois is an anagram for "Mongolois", which
would give us Genghiz Khan, highly suitable as a King of Terror. Line
4 is rather general. Mars is of course the god of war. This quatrain
will probably be a favorite in Peking.
Copyright 2004:
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| Title: Re: 2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
31 Jan 2004 11:15:43 AM |
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"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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guskz@hotmail.com (Peter K.) wrote in message
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Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom CONCLUSION:
Fact 1: Malachy's is prophecy is near it's end and Olivetan
Saint-Benedict's on the last Pope.
Fact 2: The Third Saint's prophecy is also about: The very LAST POPE
and "a RENEWED Crusader venture led by a new "KING" of a country
during the final days of CHAOS."
Yes but when?
Fact 3: A EXACT event already occured similar to the FUTURE prophecy
in Fact 2 (occured "before" the prophecy)
HISTORICAL FACT: The "SAME TIME" the Mongol Empire expanded (Mongol
perhaps Magog held back by a legendary wall buit by the "WEST" Greek
Alexander the Great) the WEST Crusaders were ALSO conquering and
forming a ROMAN CATHOLIC EMPIRE for the POPE.
Fact 5: The Mongols invaded Jerusalem in the year "1260" (perhaps the
3 1/2 days after Christ's NEW calendar 0 AC: NEW calendar perhaps NEW
seven approach).
Fact 6: The only King reknown as a 'SAINT-KING' of FRANCE that led the
Crusaders died in 1270. (Similar to Lemesurier's X.72 New King of
France)
Fact 7: Evil Mongol Ghengis Khans words: "(The HUNT:) True Joy is to
see your ennemies as you kill them and then take their wives and
daughters". Ghengis died suddenly during a game of animal hunting at
the very time the East Mongols were about to invade the West
Europe...the invasion never took place as the armies returned to
debate over his succession.
The real quote:
Genghis believed that a man's fulfilment was to be found in the
intoxication of battle, On one occasion he asked Bo'orchu and
other comrades what they thought was man's highest bliss. They
answered that it lay in falconry. when one rode out in spring on
a sturdy gelding, the hunting falcon on the wrist and loosed it
against the prey. Genghis answered: 'You are mistaken. Man's
greatest good fortune is to chase and defeat his enemy, seize his
total possessions. leave his married women weeping and wailing,
ride his gelding, use the bodies of his women as a nightshirt and
support, gazing upon and kissing their rosy breasts, sucking their
lips which are as sweet as the berries of their breasts.
Fact 8: Revelation perhaps speaks of a renewed/revided Empire: "The
Beast (not Daniel's Greek 'Goat' or Persian 'Ram' empires) was, is
not, and is to come" and "The Beast is of the seven (of the seven past
empires) and is also an eight (meaning the same empire comes back
'TWICE' = 'renewed/revived/resurrected')".
We are not in Revelation times!
Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't understand is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of his
ancestors.
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| Title: Re: 2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
01 Feb 2004 03:54:57 PM |
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Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom CONCLUSION:
SNIP> > > Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't understand is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of his
ancestors.
Where is that written?
LB
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| User: "Fritzz" |
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01 Feb 2004 07:06:26 PM |
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Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom CONCLUSION:
SNIP> > > Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't understand
is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of his
ancestors.
Where is that written?
LB
Many manuscripts. Can you read Latin?
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| User: "Peter K." |
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| Title: Re: 2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
09 Feb 2004 01:34:09 AM |
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"Fritzz" <fritzz@airmail.net> wrote in message
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't understand
is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of his
ancestors.
Hmmm Catholic King of St-Louis lineage and yet you specify a King of
Angouleme as an Antichrist ...if both are one and the same I disagree.
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| Title: Re: 2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
02 Feb 2004 04:31:28 AM |
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Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom CONCLUSION:
SNIP> > > Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't understand
is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of his
ancestors.
Where is that written?
LB
Many manuscripts. Can you read Latin?
So why does Nostradamus call him Henri?
LB
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03 Feb 2004 08:02:58 PM |
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Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom
CONCLUSION:
SNIP> > > Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't
understand
is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of his
ancestors.
Where is that written?
LB
Many manuscripts. Can you read Latin?
So why does Nostradamus call him Henri?
LB
I'm not Nostradamus; therefore, I can't answer that. Henri is a name of the
Virgin's Flower (fleur-de-lis) like the Sun King (St. Louis isn't he) and
that maybe what he is telling you. He must be a Hapsburg and of the Lilly
(Virgin's Flower).
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04 Feb 2004 05:32:41 AM |
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Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom
CONCLUSION:
SNIP> > > Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France' Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't
understand
is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of his
ancestors.
Where is that written?
LB
Many manuscripts. Can you read Latin?
So why does Nostradamus call him Henri?
LB
I'm not Nostradamus; therefore, I can't answer that. Henri is a name of the
Virgin's Flower (fleur-de-lis) like the Sun King (St. Louis isn't he) and
that maybe what he is telling you. He must be a Hapsburg and of the Lilly
(Virgin's Flower).
Why then Angolmois?
LB
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Facts of the Three Prophecies that 'lead' to the bottom
CONCLUSION:
SNIP> > > Therefore in the historic Past:
1. There was a West Crusader Led by a King of 'France'
Church
Expansion at the SAME time as the demonic East Mongol Empire
Expansion.
Name?
He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France. What he doesn't
understand
is
that the great Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one of
his
ancestors.
Where is that written?
LB
Many manuscripts. Can you read Latin?
So why does Nostradamus call him Henri?
LB
I'm not Nostradamus; therefore, I can't answer that. Henri is a name of
the
Virgin's Flower (fleur-de-lis) like the Sun King (St. Louis isn't he)
and
that maybe what he is telling you. He must be a Hapsburg and of the
Lilly
(Virgin's Flower).
Why then Angolmois?
LB
He (Angolmois) will murder the Great King (Emperor) on the Emperor's second
visit to the Mont of Olives. This will happen after the Pope has
consecrated him Emperor) in Sant Sophia Basilica in Constantinople. It will
be re-consecrated to the Church. After the murder, the world will rejoice
and Angolmois (antichrist) will rule. The Emperor will set up 10 kingdoms
with a king to rule. They will report to him. One king will rule Canada, US
& Mexico. I'm not sure who he will be other than he will be Roman Catholic.
A blue eyed Russian Orthodox from Siberia will rule What we know as Russia.
A Irish Roman Catholic will rule the British Isles, which I think is funny.
At least the Emperor will have a sense of humor. Orthodox and Catholics are
one and the same to him - same sacraments and dogmas up to 1054.
The Emperor has green (around pupils)/brown (outside the green) eyes, medium
brown hair, medium height & weight. He has bad feet, as they hurt when he
walks. He likes to wear white clothes and will bear a mark (called the
inner mark) over his heart (I'm not at liberty to say). There will an
outward mark that his teacher (Benedictine Monk) will give him (Yes, I know
the mark; however, it will stay with me). He is consecrated to the Sacred
Heart of Jesus and Deva Maria (Virgin). Wears the Brown Scapular. He
is/was a womanizer and all will be forgiven after he rebukes the Pope for
the condition of the Church. They will go into the Pope's private garden for
confession and prayer.
He will divide his army into 3 divisions - soldiers, hospice and orders
(priest). The pope will consecrate a new order for priest on the Emperors
request. All his soldiers will wear the outward mark over their hearts.
All his soldiers who die in battle will go straight to heaven, as martyrs.
Decree of Pope.
As long as he lives, there will be peace. Upon his death, the earth will
become hell.
Interesting thing is two men (John Mark & George) say they are the witnesses
who will die and be left dead three days in the streets per the scriptures.
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| User: "Peter K." |
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| Title: Re: 2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
04 Feb 2004 10:06:34 PM |
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He (Angolmois) will murder the Great King (Emperor)...
After the murder, the world will rejoice
and Angolmois (antichrist) will rule
That's a first. 'Some' are extracts from the scriptures but with very
self-defined interpretations?
The Emperor has green (around pupils)/brown (outside the green) eyes...
.....> is/was a womanizer and all will be forgiven after he rebukes the
Pope
.....> As long as he lives, there will be peace.
Above he is killed by an Angoumois descendance of Saint-King Louis IX
of France.
Presumably this is a prior-event interpretation.
Never read any 'scriptures' specifying Angolmois as antichrist
therefore probably a belief in Nostrasdamus X.72's interpretation of
'effrayeur' as King of Terror in Eric Cheetham's interpretation
related to a 'Mongol King' but not from any scriptures of the
Saints/High Priest nor from Peter Lemesurier interpretation where
"deffrayeur" is a Rescuing King of Angoumois France (deffraying King
from the sky = heaven-saint). Presumably he combined both together to
make 'his' interpretation.
But I INSIST that both Cheetham and Lemesurier are correct the very
way they were interpreted = Two meanings and it will be an EAST VERSUS
WEST: East Mongol King versus a Revived West Crusader soldiers led by
the King of Angoumois France (therefore in NO WAY, an antichrist).
In fact just beside X.72: Nostradamus X.74 mentions the END of times
and X.75 definately mentions a 'VERY' powerful ASIAN KING to TOWER
over ALL OTHERS in the EAST!
pointus comus
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| User: "Fritzz" |
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| Title: Re: 2004: Nostradamus' X.72 *Both* LEMESURIER and Mongol King were CORRECT! |
08 Feb 2004 01:42:03 PM |
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Peter,
It isn't from the scriptures, it is from various prophets like the Hermit.
The muslims say he is two men. There is some that say, the first is the
false king and the one that follows in the true king.
"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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He (Angolmois) will murder the Great King (Emperor)...
After the murder, the world will rejoice
and Angolmois (antichrist) will rule
That's a first. 'Some' are extracts from the scriptures but with very
self-defined interpretations?
The Emperor has green (around pupils)/brown (outside the green) eyes...
....> is/was a womanizer and all will be forgiven after he rebukes the
Pope
....> As long as he lives, there will be peace.
Above he is killed by an Angoumois descendance of Saint-King Louis IX
of France.
Presumably this is a prior-event interpretation.
Never read any 'scriptures' specifying Angolmois as antichrist
therefore probably a belief in Nostrasdamus X.72's interpretation of
'effrayeur' as King of Terror in Eric Cheetham's interpretation
related to a 'Mongol King' but not from any scriptures of the
Saints/High Priest nor from Peter Lemesurier interpretation where
"deffrayeur" is a Rescuing King of Angoumois France (deffraying King
from the sky = heaven-saint). Presumably he combined both together to
make 'his' interpretation.
But I INSIST that both Cheetham and Lemesurier are correct the very
way they were interpreted = Two meanings and it will be an EAST VERSUS
WEST: East Mongol King versus a Revived West Crusader soldiers led by
the King of Angoumois France (therefore in NO WAY, an antichrist).
In fact just beside X.72: Nostradamus X.74 mentions the END of times
and X.75 definately mentions a 'VERY' powerful ASIAN KING to TOWER
over ALL OTHERS in the EAST!
pointus comus
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"Fritzz" <fritzz@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<c063e8$lq1@library2.airnews.net>...
Peter,
It isn't from the scriptures,
Agreed but only by regular definition:
Many deny Daniel & leastly Enoch as authentic hence scriptures
although Enoch was recognised as a prophet by Jesus.
Not the Hermit and 'TO KEEP IT SHORT" I will continually call them
SCRIPTURES for they come from:
1. People 'officially recognised' as Saints or High-Priest by the
Catholic Church.
2. Their words/prophecies are well documented/known as originating
from them
3. The Church has held and/or safekept their prophecies: such as
Malachy, St-Benadict, and one other...
Would be blasphemous for a Church to declare one a Saint and his
words(prophecies) as lies or the very least false....
Jesus said:"do not stone the prophets: meaning their prophecies"
it is from various prophets like the Hermit.
Peter the Hermit, yes but not the first Crusade, nor the 2nd with
Louis VII, nor Augustus, nor the Heart of the Lion Richard...
.... but the Last Crusades with the only reknown SAINT KING: St-Louis
IX and the Mongol Invasion of Jerusalem in 1260 AD.
The muslims say he is two men. There is some that say, the first is the
false king and the one that follows in the true king.
Peter the Hermit vs Saint-King Louis.......the new King will be of
Saint-King Louis' lineage.
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04 Feb 2004 10:13:14 PM |
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All though an impressive research and knowledge of the scriptures.
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08 Feb 2004 07:44:33 PM |
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"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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All though an impressive research and knowledge of the scriptures.
Thank you.
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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05 Feb 2004 05:38:02 PM |
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(Peter K.) wrote in message news:<7f35df4b.0402042013.10cbd9ea@posting.google.com>...
All though an impressive research and knowledge of the scriptures.
Yes many have read that little book and bent it to their own ends, it
is one thing to claim knowledge quite another to demonstrate it.
How you get that CXQ72 relates to an Antichrist is beyond me, to me it
is about General P Musharaff and how he takes the 3rd world debt, and
jams it up the West's bottom and then proceeds to kick 7 colours out
them, but he ain't no Antichrist, more a Salladin or Attila.
LB
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| User: "Fritzz" |
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08 Feb 2004 07:47:31 PM |
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"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:39cd5fe.0402051538.34cc5dd2@posting.google.com...
guskz@hotmail.com (Peter K.) wrote in message
news:<7f35df4b.0402042013.10cbd9ea@posting.google.com>...
All though an impressive research and knowledge of the scriptures.
Yes many have read that little book and bent it to their own ends, it
is one thing to claim knowledge quite another to demonstrate it.
How you get that CXQ72 relates to an Antichrist is beyond me, to me it
is about General P Musharaff and how he takes the 3rd world debt, and
jams it up the West's bottom and then proceeds to kick 7 colours out
them, but he ain't no Antichrist, more a Salladin or Attila.
LB
It's not St. Louis IX, as he lived in 13th century (1215-1270) and
Nostradamus lived in the 16th century (1503 - 1566). Now, if Nostradamus is
predicting the past, then we would be in agreement. Even I can predict the
past!
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| User: "Peter K." |
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09 Feb 2004 12:34:32 AM |
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"Fritzz" <fritzz@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<c06ql8$ojg@library1.airnews.net>...
"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:39cd5fe.0402051538.34cc5dd2@posting.google.com...
guskz@hotmail.com (Peter K.) wrote in message
news:<7f35df4b.0402042013.10cbd9ea@posting.google.com>...
All though an impressive research and knowledge of the scriptures.
Yes many have read that little book and bent it to their own ends, it
is one thing to claim knowledge quite another to demonstrate it.
How you get that CXQ72 relates to an Antichrist is beyond me, to me it
is about General P Musharaff and how he takes the 3rd world debt, and
jams it up the West's bottom and then proceeds to kick 7 colours out
them, but he ain't no Antichrist, more a Salladin or Attila.
LB
It's not St. Louis IX, as he lived in 13th century (1215-1270)
It is and at the same time of the Eastern Mongolian Empires Expansion.
Nostradamus lived in the 16th century (1503 - 1566). Now, if Nostradamus is
predicting the past, then we would be in agreement. Even I can predict the
past!
Not mainly Nostradamus, but scriptures depict future prophecies
exactly to re-occur as in the PAST: HENCE NEW EAST CRUSADERS VS NEW
CHINA/MONGOLIA EMPIRE.
Yes laughable as in the past for whom where Mongols as compared to
Billions from China/Persia or Romans who's empire stretched for many
centuries.
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| User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville" |
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31 Jan 2004 12:42:09 PM |
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wrote in reply:
<< He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France.
What he doesn't understand is that the great
Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one
of his ancestors. >>
How cosmic! I did indeed live in
St. Louis twice in my past.
Nine is also my VERY FAV number.
But, I'm neither French, a King nor
a Catholic. I'm just a poor old lowly
pagan psychedelic pope and the only
admitted Patron Saint of the Internet.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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31 Jan 2004 05:50:10 PM |
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cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP (Saint Isidore of Laytonville) wrote in message news:<20040131134209.13174.00000719@mb-m20.aol.com>...
fritzz@airmail.net wrote in reply:
<< He speaks of St. Louis IX, King of France.
What he doesn't understand is that the great
Catholic King is among us and St. Louis is one
of his ancestors. >>
How cosmic! I did indeed live in
St. Louis twice in my past.
What about living during St. Louis XIV or St. Louis XV?
Nine is also my VERY FAV number.
But, I'm neither French, a King nor
a Catholic. I'm just a poor old lowly
pagan psychedelic pope and the only
admitted Patron Saint of the Internet.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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31 Jan 2004 12:42:05 PM |
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Of course Saint King Louis IX led the Crusaders.
And no One knows whom the new Catholic King will be to help
re-consolidate the church for the new Pope, the church will supposidly
be in complete collapse.'
Perhaps X.72's 1999 marks his birth? The scriptures already specify
his is of the descendance of the Past King.
Even the new Pope will be of the descendance of a Past King(according
to the Prophecy) as well as a Religous Order (Supposidely of the
Benedectine branch) but there is debate if the Olivetan Benedectine
relation is separate to both the last two POPES(Glory of the Olives
and Peter the Roman (Italian)) or only one of the TWO.
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| User: "Fritzz" |
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31 Jan 2004 03:29:32 PM |
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"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f35df4b.0401311042.3bbe0966@posting.google.com...
Of course Saint King Louis IX led the Crusaders.
And no One knows whom the new Catholic King will be to help
re-consolidate the church for the new Pope, the church will supposidly
be in complete collapse.'
Perhaps X.72's 1999 marks his birth? The scriptures already specify
his is of the descendance of the Past King.
Even the new Pope will be of the descendance of a Past King(according
to the Prophecy) as well as a Religous Order (Supposidely of the
Benedectine branch) but there is debate if the Olivetan Benedectine
relation is separate to both the last two POPES(Glory of the Olives
and Peter the Roman (Italian)) or only one of the TWO.
The seeds of Pepin.
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31 Jan 2004 03:45:16 PM |
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wrote in a reply:
<< "Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f35df4b.0401311042.3bbe0966@posting.google.com...
Of course Saint King Louis IX led the Crusaders.
And no One knows whom the new Catholic King will be to help
re-consolidate the church for the new Pope, the church will supposidly
be in complete collapse.'
Perhaps X.72's 1999 marks his birth? The scriptures already specify
his is of the descendance of the Past King.
Even the new Pope will be of the descendance of a Past King(according
to the Prophecy) as well as a Religous Order (Supposidely of the
Benedectine branch) but there is debate if the Olivetan Benedectine
relation is separate to both the last two POPES(Glory of the Olives
and Peter the Roman (Italian)) or only one of the TWO.
The seeds of Pepin. >>>
I just love Pipin's recipes. Especially the Lobster souffle and
the Pear Chutney. I think that's what I'll have for dinner this
evening.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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| User: "Fritzz" |
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31 Jan 2004 03:27:11 PM |
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"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f35df4b.0401311042.3bbe0966@posting.google.com...
Of course Saint King Louis IX led the Crusaders.
And no One knows whom the new Catholic King will be to help
re-consolidate the church for the new Pope, the church will supposidly
be in complete collapse.'
I do
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| User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville" |
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31 Jan 2004 03:32:14 PM |
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I do too! :)
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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31 Jan 2004 08:25:45 PM |
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While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', (Peter K.)
scribbled:
Perhaps X.72's 1999 marks his birth?
Not even close.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
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| User: "DM" |
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06 Feb 2004 04:21:44 AM |
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You never had the faintest idea about X.72 and yours is the worst
interpretation out there, moron bud
According to you X.72 is about
"The death of the person who was the hereditary heir to the throne of
France."
Don't you realize that everyone dies, MORON
Ain't you fucking brilliant!
"Never anonymous Bud" <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
news:6voo109besd7ia3afo6gpki6uvklraldnj@4ax.com...
While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', (Peter K.)
scribbled:
Perhaps X.72's 1999 marks his birth?
Not even close.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
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| User: "Claude Latremouille" |
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06 Feb 2004 08:43:22 AM |
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:21:44 -0500, "DM" <dm@hotmail.com>
wrote in part:
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You never had the faintest idea about X.72 and yours is the worst
interpretation out there, moron bud
According to you X.72 is about
"The death of the person who was the hereditary heir to the throne of
France."
Don't you realize that everyone dies, MORON
Ain't you fucking brilliant!
*
The saddest part of it is not what he writes, but the fact that
he does not know why he writes it. If he knew, he would have been
able to explain what he writes, but he never does.
*
As to you, let's say that you are not about to understand the
very vague reference in line 3 of X-72 to the events of June-July
1999. For those who are in 'learn' mode, let's do it again:
*
First X-72:
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-------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. ------------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
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-------------------------- L X X I I. ------------------------
--------- L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois ----------
--------- Du ciel viendra vn grand Roy deffraieur ------------
--------- Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois. ---------------
--------- Auant apres Mars regner par bon heur. --------------
*
As this verse is just like the others, i.e., meaningful
gobbledygook, one ought not take any of it for granted. Line 3 is
the most obscure of the four. It is the only one which refers to
an event of 1999 which could not have been forecast. Here is that
event:
*
On June 19, 1999, one of the pretenders to the French throne, the
Count of Paris, died. On the same day, his grandson got married.
*
Then, on July 10, 1999, this grandson got married at church (the
first wedding was the civil wedding).
*
The key to the meaning of line 3 rest on the fact that the title
of this grandson is Duke of Angoulême. So, if one is to make
sense of line 3, one must read it as if it had stated:
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"[The name of] the great King of Angoulême shall resuscitate"
*
In other words, in July 1999,
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--------- L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois ----------
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the name Angoulême shall be in the news. And it was.
*
Why would Nostradamus be interested in these quasi-royal events?
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Because he knows that the Count of Paris will not live long
enough (he died at 90) to see the total eclipse of the Sun of
August 11, 1999 (which is the subject matter of the first two
lines of X-72), whereas the British Queen Mother shall live to
see it, as she shall pass on shortly thereafter at age 101.
*
So, this vague reference to something royal in line 3 kills two
birds with one stone, so to speak, as it leads to a comparison of
what happens to the royal families of France and Britain.
*
How do I know that? Because the original X-72 is an encyphered
piece of mumbo-jumbo which yields no less than seven decyphered
versions, two of which refer to the above:
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--------- En l'An M.N.N.N., une éclipse totale du Soleil -----
--------- surviendra vers Midy à Verdun : à Londres, ---------
--------- la Royne Mère d'Angleterre, au soir de -------------
--------- sa charmante uie, mourra peu après. ----------------
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--------- Le Comte de Paris qui meurt à Nonante Ans ----------
--------- n'aura veu son Filz Henry de France rire de --------
--------- ma rude prose sur la fin de Paris cuyt -------------
--------- par le Bon U S, car on en rit... après sa Mort ! ---
*
That's why the absolute San Diego moron cannot explain 'his' own
quasi-interpretation of X-72. He can't even read the goddammed
stuff!! And as this is the only interpretation he has ever
offered this NewsGroup, then one can truly say that the sum of
his posts about Nostradamus' quatrains here is equal to a big
ZERO!
*
Have a nice day, ye all!
*
Claude Latrémouille
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(Claude Latremouille) wrote in message news:<c0096a$nga$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:21:44 -0500, "DM" <dm@hotmail.com>
wrote in part:
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You never had the faintest idea about X.72 and yours is the worst
interpretation out there, moron bud
According to you X.72 is about
"The death of the person who was the hereditary heir to the throne of
France."
Don't you realize that everyone dies, MORON
Ain't you fucking brilliant!
*
The saddest part of it is not what he writes, but the fact that
he does not know why he writes it. If he knew, he would have been
able to explain what he writes, but he never does.
*
As to you, let's say that you are not about to understand the
very vague reference in line 3 of X-72 to the events of June-July
1999. For those who are in 'learn' mode, let's do it again:
*
First X-72:
*
-------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. ------------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
-------------------------- L X X I I. ------------------------
--------- L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois ----------
--------- Du ciel viendra vn grand Roy deffraieur ------------
--------- Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois. ---------------
--------- Auant apres Mars regner par bon heur. --------------
*
As this verse is just like the others, i.e., meaningful
gobbledygook, one ought not take any of it for granted. Line 3 is
the most obscure of the four. It is the only one which refers to
an event of 1999 which could not have been forecast. Here is that
event:
*
SNIP> How do I know that? Because the original X-72 is an encyphered
piece of mumbo-jumbo which yields no less than seven decyphered
versions, two of which refer to the above:
*
--------- En l'An M.N.N.N., une éclipse totale du Soleil -----
--------- surviendra vers Midy à Verdun : à Londres, ---------
--------- la Royne Mère d'Angleterre, au soir de -------------
--------- sa charmante uie, mourra peu après. ----------------
*
--------- Le Comte de Paris qui meurt à Nonante Ans ----------
--------- n'aura veu son Filz Henry de France rire de --------
--------- ma rude prose sur la fin de Paris cuyt -------------
--------- par le Bon U S, car on en rit... après sa Mort ! ---
*
That's why the absolute San Diego moron cannot explain 'his' own
quasi-interpretation of X-72. He can't even read the goddammed
stuff!! And as this is the only interpretation he has ever
offered this NewsGroup, then one can truly say that the sum of
his posts about Nostradamus' quatrains here is equal to a big
ZERO!
*
Have a nice day, ye all!
*
Claude Latrémouille
*
=== ===
=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
===========================
Unable to discern that the rhyme fits much better, when viewed as a
profile of a man's life, much as C8Q70 fits Mr Saddam Hussein, but
this one has a bite, an event a hundred fold times the magnitude of
S11 or 911, after all it is the tipping point for the western
hegemony, or how we were foreclosed, fortunately Mr G Monbiot has put
this hypothesis into his latest book and it's ramifications.
So it is just some new age kooks who are in the know.
But let the doodle bug, pretend he knows what he is talking about,
"that ole font re-arranger".
LB
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06 Feb 2004 05:40:25 AM |
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While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', "DM" <dm@hotmail.com> scribbled:
You never had the faintest idea about X.72 and yours is the worst
interpretation out there, moron bud
Coming from you, that validates it totally.
And as usual, when you have NO valid argument,
you have to resort to childish name-calling.
Keep it up, we'd all get scared if you changed.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity....
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| User: "DaarkSyde" |
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31 Jan 2004 12:00:20 PM |
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On 30 Jan 2004 08:50:40 -0800, (Peter K.) wrote:
..snip the gibberish
Both::
1. PETER LEMESURIER'S 'New King OF Angoumois France to lead the West
Crusaders
and
2. Erica Cheetham's New King of the Mongols to lead the East (which
was Lemesurier's interprations is his first book: 'Nostradamus the
next fifty years'.
Both these people are frauds just looking to sell their books.
Nostradamas is not meant to be understood until after the prophecy has
taken place.
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