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"Docrodile" |
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15 Mar 2007 03:56:01 AM |
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'300' Irks Iran: Persian Culture Misrepresented Say Protesters |
Thursday, March 15, 2007
'300' irks Iran: Persian culture misrepresented say protesters |
NASSER KARIMI - The Associated Press
The hit American movie "300" has angered Iranians who say the
Greeks-vs-Persians action flick insults their ancient culture and provokes
animosity against Iran.
"Hollywood declares war on Iranians," blared a headline in Tuesday's
edition of the independent Ayende-No newspaper.
The movie, which raked in $70 million in its opening weekend, is
based on a comic-book fantasy version of the battle of Thermopylae in 480
B.C., in which a force of 300 Spartans held off a massive Persian army at
a mountain pass in Greece for three days.
Even some American reviewers noted the political overtones of the
West-against-Iran story line -- and the way Persians are depicted as
decadent, sexually flamboyant and evil in contrast to the noble Greeks.
In Iran, the movie hasn't opened and probably never will, given the
government's restrictions on Western films -- though one paper said
bootleg DVDs were available.
Still, it touched a sensitive nerve. Javad Shamghadri, cultural
adviser to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said the United States
tries to "humiliate" Iran in order to reverse historical reality and
"compensate for its wrongdoings in order to provoke American soldiers and
warmongers" against Iran.
The movie comes at a time of increased tensions between the U.S. and
Iran over the Persian nation's nuclear program and the Iraq war.
But aside from politics, the film was seen as an attack on Persian
history, a source of pride for Iranians across the political spectrum,
including critics of the current Islamic regime.
State-run television has run several commentaries the past two days
calling the film insulting and has brought on Iranian film directors to
point out its historical inaccuracies.
"The film depicts Iranians as demons, without culture, feeling or
humanity, who think of nothing except attacking other nations and killing
people," Ayende-No said.
"It is a new effort to slander the Iranian people and civilization
before world public opinion at a time of increasing American threats
against Iran," it said.
Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is
"serving the policy of the U.S. leadership" and predicted it will "prompt
a wave of protest in the world. ... Iranians living in the U.S. and Europe
will not be indifferent about this obvious insult."
http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/213285/3/
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: '300' Irks Iran: Persian Culture Misrepresented Say Protesters |
15 Mar 2007 07:26:28 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampything@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
Thursday, March 15, 2007
'300' irks Iran: Persian culture misrepresented say protesters
NASSER KARIMI - The Associated Press
"The film depicts Iranians as demons, without culture, feeling or
humanity, who think of nothing except attacking other nations and killing
people," Ayende-No said.
"It is a new effort to slander the Iranian people and civilization
before world public opinion at a time of increasing American threats
against Iran," it said.
Perhaps if the Persians had won their military campaigns in Greece
they could have written history to put themselves in a more
positive light.
Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is
"serving the policy of the U.S. leadership" and predicted it will "prompt
a wave of protest in the world. ... Iranians living in the U.S. and Europe
will not be indifferent about this obvious insult."
http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/213285/3/
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: '300' Irks Iran: Persian Culture Misrepresented Say Protesters |
16 Mar 2007 07:12:06 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98F4B16BDAE90rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampything@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
Thursday, March 15, 2007
'300' irks Iran: Persian culture misrepresented say protesters
NASSER KARIMI - The Associated Press
"The film depicts Iranians as demons, without culture, feeling or
humanity, who think of nothing except attacking other nations and
killing
people," Ayende-No said.
"It is a new effort to slander the Iranian people and
civilization
before world public opinion at a time of increasing American threats
against Iran," it said.
Perhaps if the Persians had won their military campaigns in Greece
they could have written history to put themselves in a more
positive light.
What strikes me about the fierce pride they have in their heritage is how
the distortions mirror America's and Nazi Germany's (at the time). We have
them constantly being offended by something. They were upset that the
Persian Gulf was called the Arabia Gulf in the UK, and received an
apology. That kind of pride can get folks into nasty violent feuds if it's
not tempered with reason.
Docrodile
Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is
"serving the policy of the U.S. leadership" and predicted it will
"prompt
a wave of protest in the world. ... Iranians living in the U.S. and
Europe
will not be indifferent about this obvious insult."
http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/213285/3/
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: '300' Irks Iran: Persian Culture Misrepresented Say Protesters |
16 Mar 2007 10:45:53 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampything@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98F4B16BDAE90rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampything@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
Thursday, March 15, 2007
'300' irks Iran: Persian culture misrepresented say protesters
NASSER KARIMI - The Associated Press
"The film depicts Iranians as demons, without culture, feeling
or
humanity, who think of nothing except attacking other nations and
killing
people," Ayende-No said.
"It is a new effort to slander the Iranian people and
civilization
before world public opinion at a time of increasing American threats
against Iran," it said.
Perhaps if the Persians had won their military campaigns in Greece
they could have written history to put themselves in a more
positive light.
What strikes me about the fierce pride they have in their heritage is
how
the distortions mirror America's and Nazi Germany's (at the time). We
have
them constantly being offended by something. They were upset that the
Persian Gulf was called the Arabia Gulf in the UK, and received an
apology. That kind of pride can get folks into nasty violent feuds if
it's
not tempered with reason.
Very true. Pride is one of the deadly sins, is it not ?
People become blinded to reason when their pride rears its head.
As to why the persians and arabs seem so easily offended, I
can't say for sure. Even in the more secular muslim countries,
the authority of their religion is pervasive.. this may be
part of it. Most analysts agree the muslim world suffers from
an extreme lack of success. Whether it's the case of pride
interfering with reasoned ventures, or failures causing extreme
exhibitions of pride, is not clear. The saying that muslims
appear to be just emerging from the 12th century is no
understatement. Bringing those parts of the world into the
21st century could take a very long time. The socio-political
dominance of their religion combined with almost nonexistent
higher education opportunities I believe are the root causes
for this. Get them some better education and eliminate the
glass ceilings and radical agendas offered by their religious
establishment, and the success will come. The Iranian nuclear
program seems to be a source of great national pride and
success, but it is overshadowed by that theocracy's eagerness
to further the agendas of radical militancy.
Docrodile
Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is
"serving the policy of the U.S. leadership" and predicted it will
"prompt
a wave of protest in the world. ... Iranians living in the U.S. and
Europe
will not be indifferent about this obvious insult."
http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/213285/3/
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: '300' Irks Iran: Persian Culture Misrepresented Say Protesters |
23 Mar 2007 02:14:07 PM |
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"It is a new effort to slander the Iranian people and
civilization
before world public opinion at a time of increasing American threats
against Iran," it said.
Perhaps if the Persians had won their military campaigns in Greece
they could have written history to put themselves in a more
positive light
Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is
"serving the policy of the U.S. leadership" and predicted it will
"prompt a wave of protest in the world. ... Iranians living in the U.S. and Europe
So what the Iranians claim is that the entire Persian Empire, even the
Asians, were in fact all Irianian's. The Persian Empire was comprised
of many different people, essentially anyone who was conquered had to
join.
Their arguments are unfounded, the movie 300 was based off of the
battle at Thermopylae, where many years and a King after some
Athenians revolted against the Persian Empire for not allowing them to
worship whom they wanted. It was a campaign of revenge. Even if they
had won their military campaigns in Greece history would still show
them as oppressors because thats what they were.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: '300' Irks Iran: Persian Culture Misrepresented Say Protesters |
15 Mar 2007 08:16:06 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:26:28 -0500, Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampything@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
Thursday, March 15, 2007
'300' irks Iran: Persian culture misrepresented say protesters
NASSER KARIMI - The Associated Press
"The film depicts Iranians as demons, without culture, feeling or
humanity, who think of nothing except attacking other nations and killing
people," Ayende-No said.
"It is a new effort to slander the Iranian people and civilization
before world public opinion at a time of increasing American threats
against Iran," it said.
Perhaps if the Persians had won their military campaigns in Greece
they could have written history to put themselves in a more
positive light.
I find it rather odd that Iran would draw any parallels between Persia in
the bronze (or whatever) age and themselves. Sounds like they've got an
inferiority complex. (Not to mention a bit of ignorance about how
Hollyweird makes movies - did they think that Gladiator had any base in
historical reality?!?)
Woods
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