Mother's quest to talk to Bush about war draws thousands in
candlelight vigils across the nation
Vigils Calling for End to Iraq War Begin
Aug 17, 2005
BY HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITER
August 18, 2005
Clutching a candle in one hand and a sign that read "Moms for Peace" in
the other, Elise May stood by the side of a busy Great Neck
intersection last night to protest the war in Iraq and support Cindy
Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed there.
"As a mother, as a parent, I'm here because when I see her, I see an
ordinary mom asking why and this is what I've been asking since day
one," said May, 47, referring to Cindy Sheehan's quest in Crawford,
Texas, to speak to President George W. Bush about the war.
Sheehan and organizers accepted an offer from Bush neighbor and Army
veteran Fred Mattlage, who provided his property for the vigil after
some residents grew angry over snarled traffic on the Crawford road.
Hundreds across Long Island and hundreds of thousands nationwide
attended candlelight vigils in support of Sheehan last night. The 10
vigils on Long Island, some with only a handful of supporters and some
with 150 or more, were scheduled to last about 90 minutes.
In Great Neck, a Ronkonkoma woman who gave only her first name, Lynn,
52, was driving by the vigil, turned around and came back to join the
supporters. She said she is against the war. Her son is in the National
Guard, an MP in Baghdad training Iraqi police. "All I do is cry," she
said. "He's not supposed to come back until March. You feel like you
are sitting on a time bomb."
The vigils were coordinated by the Web site MoveOn.org, which got help
organizing nationwide vigils from Democracy for America and True
Majority.
In Water Mill, most of the people, standing in a large semi-circle,
held lit candles as they listened to speakers. One of them, former
Marine Cpt. Joseph Giannini, served in a rifle company in Vietnam.
"Someday we'll have another wall, and another 60,000 American dead," he
said. "If Bush had gone to Vietnam like I did, he'd have the sense not
to go in to a foreign land and think it's a walk in the park."
But the growing attention surrounding Sheehan's quest to speak
personally with Bush has pushed some people away.
"In the very beginning, I was very sympathetic because we were all
experiencing the same thing," said Marianna Winchester, whose son
Ronald, 25, a Marine 1st lieutenant, was killed in western Iraq in
September. "But now I'm at the point that I'm not even watching it
anymore. Like anything else, it's gotten out of hand," she said about
the media spectacle.
"The crusade in my heart goes on every day for everyone who's been
lost," said Winchester of Rockville Centre.
She said she would not "stand out on the street with a sign and block
traffic. But that's what makes the world go round. Everybody expresses
it differently."
Staff writers Mitchell Freedman and Denise M. Bonilla contributed to
this story.
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Mother's quest to talk to Bush about war draws thousands in
candlelight vigils across the nation
Vigils Calling for End to Iraq War Begin
Aug 17, 2005
BY HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITER
August 18, 2005
Clutching a candle in one hand and a sign that read "Moms for Peace" in
the other, Elise May stood by the side of a busy Great Neck
intersection last night to protest the war in Iraq and support Cindy
Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed there.
"As a mother, as a parent, I'm here because when I see her, I see an
ordinary mom asking why and this is what I've been asking since day
one," said May, 47, referring to Cindy Sheehan's quest in Crawford,
Texas, to speak to President George W. Bush about the war.
Sheehan and organizers accepted an offer from Bush neighbor and Army
veteran Fred Mattlage, who provided his property for the vigil after
some residents grew angry over snarled traffic on the Crawford road.
Hundreds across Long Island and hundreds of thousands nationwide
attended candlelight vigils in support of Sheehan last night. The 10
vigils on Long Island, some with only a handful of supporters and some
with 150 or more, were scheduled to last about 90 minutes.
In Great Neck, a Ronkonkoma woman who gave only her first name, Lynn,
52, was driving by the vigil, turned around and came back to join the
supporters. She said she is against the war. Her son is in the National
Guard, an MP in Baghdad training Iraqi police. "All I do is cry," she
said. "He's not supposed to come back until March. You feel like you
are sitting on a time bomb."
The vigils were coordinated by the Web site MoveOn.org, which got help
organizing nationwide vigils from Democracy for America and True
Majority.
In Water Mill, most of the people, standing in a large semi-circle,
held lit candles as they listened to speakers. One of them, former
Marine Cpt. Joseph Giannini, served in a rifle company in Vietnam.
"Someday we'll have another wall, and another 60,000 American dead," he
said. "If Bush had gone to Vietnam like I did, he'd have the sense not
to go in to a foreign land and think it's a walk in the park."
But the growing attention surrounding Sheehan's quest to speak
personally with Bush has pushed some people away.
"In the very beginning, I was very sympathetic because we were all
experiencing the same thing," said Marianna Winchester, whose son
Ronald, 25, a Marine 1st lieutenant, was killed in western Iraq in
September. "But now I'm at the point that I'm not even watching it
anymore. Like anything else, it's gotten out of hand," she said about
the media spectacle.
"The crusade in my heart goes on every day for everyone who's been
lost," said Winchester of Rockville Centre.
She said she would not "stand out on the street with a sign and block
traffic. But that's what makes the world go round. Everybody expresses
it differently."
Staff writers Mitchell Freedman and Denise M. Bonilla contributed to
this story.
Time to pull out and allow the Iraqis that supported the US troops to suffer the fate they deserve.
Death, dismemberment, rape, and torture on a wholesale scale rather than what they're getting now.
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Mother's quest to talk to Bush about war draws thousands in
candlelight vigils across the nation
Vigils Calling for End to Iraq War Begin
Aug 17, 2005
BY HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITER
August 18, 2005
Clutching a candle in one hand and a sign that read "Moms for Peace" in
the other, Elise May stood by the side of a busy Great Neck
intersection last night to protest the war in Iraq and support Cindy
Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed there.
"As a mother, as a parent, I'm here because when I see her, I see an
ordinary mom asking why and this is what I've been asking since day
one," said May, 47, referring to Cindy Sheehan's quest in Crawford,
Texas, to speak to President George W. Bush about the war.
Sheehan and organizers accepted an offer from Bush neighbor and Army
veteran Fred Mattlage, who provided his property for the vigil after
some residents grew angry over snarled traffic on the Crawford road.
Hundreds across Long Island and hundreds of thousands nationwide
attended candlelight vigils in support of Sheehan last night. The 10
vigils on Long Island, some with only a handful of supporters and some
with 150 or more, were scheduled to last about 90 minutes.
In Great Neck, a Ronkonkoma woman who gave only her first name, Lynn,
52, was driving by the vigil, turned around and came back to join the
supporters. She said she is against the war. Her son is in the National
Guard, an MP in Baghdad training Iraqi police. "All I do is cry," she
said. "He's not supposed to come back until March. You feel like you
are sitting on a time bomb."
The vigils were coordinated by the Web site MoveOn.org, which got help
organizing nationwide vigils from Democracy for America and True
Majority.
In Water Mill, most of the people, standing in a large semi-circle,
held lit candles as they listened to speakers. One of them, former
Marine Cpt. Joseph Giannini, served in a rifle company in Vietnam.
"Someday we'll have another wall, and another 60,000 American dead," he
said. "If Bush had gone to Vietnam like I did, he'd have the sense not
to go in to a foreign land and think it's a walk in the park."
But the growing attention surrounding Sheehan's quest to speak
personally with Bush has pushed some people away.
"In the very beginning, I was very sympathetic because we were all
experiencing the same thing," said Marianna Winchester, whose son
Ronald, 25, a Marine 1st lieutenant, was killed in western Iraq in
September. "But now I'm at the point that I'm not even watching it
anymore. Like anything else, it's gotten out of hand," she said about
the media spectacle.
"The crusade in my heart goes on every day for everyone who's been
lost," said Winchester of Rockville Centre.
She said she would not "stand out on the street with a sign and block
traffic. But that's what makes the world go round. Everybody expresses
it differently."
Staff writers Mitchell Freedman and Denise M. Bonilla contributed to
this story.
Time to pull out and allow the Iraqis that supported the US troops to
suffer the fate they deserve.
Well, that's what you did first time round after all. Except you encouraged
the Shia to rise up firt - sort of like how Stalin dealt wit the folk in the
Warsaw ghetto..
Death, dismemberment, rape, and torture on a wholesale scale rather than
what they're getting now.
Until 1990, the US supported and enabled that death, dismemberment rape and
torture - it was happening at a far greater scale that it was two years ago
then, too.
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18 Aug 2005 06:17:47 PM |
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Mother's quest to talk to Bush about war draws thousands in
candlelight vigils across the nation
Vigils Calling for End to Iraq War Begin
Aug 17, 2005
BY HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITER
August 18, 2005
Clutching a candle in one hand and a sign that read "Moms for Peace" in
the other, Elise May stood by the side of a busy Great Neck
intersection last night to protest the war in Iraq and support Cindy
Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed there.
"As a mother, as a parent, I'm here because when I see her, I see an
ordinary mom asking why and this is what I've been asking since day
one," said May, 47, referring to Cindy Sheehan's quest in Crawford,
Texas, to speak to President George W. Bush about the war.
Sheehan and organizers accepted an offer from Bush neighbor and Army
veteran Fred Mattlage, who provided his property for the vigil after
some residents grew angry over snarled traffic on the Crawford road.
Hundreds across Long Island and hundreds of thousands nationwide
attended candlelight vigils in support of Sheehan last night. The 10
vigils on Long Island, some with only a handful of supporters and some
with 150 or more, were scheduled to last about 90 minutes.
In Great Neck, a Ronkonkoma woman who gave only her first name, Lynn,
52, was driving by the vigil, turned around and came back to join the
supporters. She said she is against the war. Her son is in the National
Guard, an MP in Baghdad training Iraqi police. "All I do is cry," she
said. "He's not supposed to come back until March. You feel like you
are sitting on a time bomb."
The vigils were coordinated by the Web site MoveOn.org, which got help
organizing nationwide vigils from Democracy for America and True
Majority.
In Water Mill, most of the people, standing in a large semi-circle,
held lit candles as they listened to speakers. One of them, former
Marine Cpt. Joseph Giannini, served in a rifle company in Vietnam.
"Someday we'll have another wall, and another 60,000 American dead," he
said. "If Bush had gone to Vietnam like I did, he'd have the sense not
to go in to a foreign land and think it's a walk in the park."
But the growing attention surrounding Sheehan's quest to speak
personally with Bush has pushed some people away.
"In the very beginning, I was very sympathetic because we were all
experiencing the same thing," said Marianna Winchester, whose son
Ronald, 25, a Marine 1st lieutenant, was killed in western Iraq in
September. "But now I'm at the point that I'm not even watching it
anymore. Like anything else, it's gotten out of hand," she said about
the media spectacle.
"The crusade in my heart goes on every day for everyone who's been
lost," said Winchester of Rockville Centre.
She said she would not "stand out on the street with a sign and block
traffic. But that's what makes the world go round. Everybody expresses
it differently."
Staff writers Mitchell Freedman and Denise M. Bonilla contributed to
this story.
Time to pull out and allow the Iraqis that supported the US troops to
suffer the fate they deserve.
Well, that's what you did first time round after all. Except you encouraged
the Shia to rise up firt - sort of like how Stalin dealt wit the folk in the
Warsaw ghetto..
Wasn't just the US. That was a multination blunder. It also included your pathetic country. So
you're saying we should pull out? Oh that's right. Yur da no ideaze guy.
Death, dismemberment, rape, and torture on a wholesale scale rather than
what they're getting now.
Until 1990, the US supported and enabled that death, dismemberment rape and
torture - it was happening at a far greater scale that it was two years ago
then, too.
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19 Aug 2005 01:51:12 AM |
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Mother's quest to talk to Bush about war draws thousands in
candlelight vigils across the nation
Vigils Calling for End to Iraq War Begin
Aug 17, 2005
BY HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITER
August 18, 2005
Clutching a candle in one hand and a sign that read "Moms for Peace"
in
the other, Elise May stood by the side of a busy Great Neck
intersection last night to protest the war in Iraq and support Cindy
Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed there.
"As a mother, as a parent, I'm here because when I see her, I see an
ordinary mom asking why and this is what I've been asking since day
one," said May, 47, referring to Cindy Sheehan's quest in Crawford,
Texas, to speak to President George W. Bush about the war.
Sheehan and organizers accepted an offer from Bush neighbor and Army
veteran Fred Mattlage, who provided his property for the vigil after
some residents grew angry over snarled traffic on the Crawford road.
Hundreds across Long Island and hundreds of thousands nationwide
attended candlelight vigils in support of Sheehan last night. The 10
vigils on Long Island, some with only a handful of supporters and
some
with 150 or more, were scheduled to last about 90 minutes.
In Great Neck, a Ronkonkoma woman who gave only her first name, Lynn,
52, was driving by the vigil, turned around and came back to join the
supporters. She said she is against the war. Her son is in the
National
Guard, an MP in Baghdad training Iraqi police. "All I do is cry," she
said. "He's not supposed to come back until March. You feel like you
are sitting on a time bomb."
The vigils were coordinated by the Web site MoveOn.org, which got
help
organizing nationwide vigils from Democracy for America and True
Majority.
In Water Mill, most of the people, standing in a large semi-circle,
held lit candles as they listened to speakers. One of them, former
Marine Cpt. Joseph Giannini, served in a rifle company in Vietnam.
"Someday we'll have another wall, and another 60,000 American dead,"
he
said. "If Bush had gone to Vietnam like I did, he'd have the sense
not
to go in to a foreign land and think it's a walk in the park."
But the growing attention surrounding Sheehan's quest to speak
personally with Bush has pushed some people away.
"In the very beginning, I was very sympathetic because we were all
experiencing the same thing," said Marianna Winchester, whose son
Ronald, 25, a Marine 1st lieutenant, was killed in western Iraq in
September. "But now I'm at the point that I'm not even watching it
anymore. Like anything else, it's gotten out of hand," she said about
the media spectacle.
"The crusade in my heart goes on every day for everyone who's been
lost," said Winchester of Rockville Centre.
She said she would not "stand out on the street with a sign and block
traffic. But that's what makes the world go round. Everybody
expresses
it differently."
Staff writers Mitchell Freedman and Denise M. Bonilla contributed to
this story.
Time to pull out and allow the Iraqis that supported the US troops to
suffer the fate they deserve.
Well, that's what you did first time round after all. Except you
encouraged
the Shia to rise up firt - sort of like how Stalin dealt wit the folk in
the
Warsaw ghetto..
Wasn't just the US. That was a multination blunder.
Nope, the Shia uprinsing was encouraged from one government only..
It also included your pathetic country. So
you're saying we should pull out? Oh that's right. Yur da no ideaze guy.
You have long proven yourself lacking the necessary intellect to understand
my ideas, Dimwanker
Death, dismemberment, rape, and torture on a wholesale scale rather
than
what they're getting now.
Until 1990, the US supported and enabled that death, dismemberment rape
and
torture - it was happening at a far greater scale that it was two years
ago
then, too.
*crickets*
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18 Aug 2005 07:41:36 AM |
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It's what was meant to happen from the very beginning, only it took
1800+ American lives and $300Billion to achieve absolutely
Nothing.
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18 Aug 2005 10:56:05 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:08:43 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
"Uncle Wally da HOOROO GuruT" <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1124337724.443725.74670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mother's quest to talk to Bush about war draws thousands in
candlelight vigils across the nation
Vigils Calling for End to Iraq War Begin
Aug 17, 2005
BY HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITER
August 18, 2005
Clutching a candle in one hand and a sign that read "Moms for Peace" in
the other, Elise May stood by the side of a busy Great Neck
intersection last night to protest the war in Iraq and support Cindy
Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed there.
"As a mother, as a parent, I'm here because when I see her, I see an
ordinary mom asking why and this is what I've been asking since day
one," said May, 47, referring to Cindy Sheehan's quest in Crawford,
Texas, to speak to President George W. Bush about the war.
Sheehan and organizers accepted an offer from Bush neighbor and Army
veteran Fred Mattlage, who provided his property for the vigil after
some residents grew angry over snarled traffic on the Crawford road.
Hundreds across Long Island and hundreds of thousands nationwide
attended candlelight vigils in support of Sheehan last night. The 10
vigils on Long Island, some with only a handful of supporters and some
with 150 or more, were scheduled to last about 90 minutes.
In Great Neck, a Ronkonkoma woman who gave only her first name, Lynn,
52, was driving by the vigil, turned around and came back to join the
supporters. She said she is against the war. Her son is in the National
Guard, an MP in Baghdad training Iraqi police. "All I do is cry," she
said. "He's not supposed to come back until March. You feel like you
are sitting on a time bomb."
The vigils were coordinated by the Web site MoveOn.org, which got help
organizing nationwide vigils from Democracy for America and True
Majority.
In Water Mill, most of the people, standing in a large semi-circle,
held lit candles as they listened to speakers. One of them, former
Marine Cpt. Joseph Giannini, served in a rifle company in Vietnam.
"Someday we'll have another wall, and another 60,000 American dead," he
said. "If Bush had gone to Vietnam like I did, he'd have the sense not
to go in to a foreign land and think it's a walk in the park."
But the growing attention surrounding Sheehan's quest to speak
personally with Bush has pushed some people away.
"In the very beginning, I was very sympathetic because we were all
experiencing the same thing," said Marianna Winchester, whose son
Ronald, 25, a Marine 1st lieutenant, was killed in western Iraq in
September. "But now I'm at the point that I'm not even watching it
anymore. Like anything else, it's gotten out of hand," she said about
the media spectacle.
"The crusade in my heart goes on every day for everyone who's been
lost," said Winchester of Rockville Centre.
She said she would not "stand out on the street with a sign and block
traffic. But that's what makes the world go round. Everybody expresses
it differently."
Staff writers Mitchell Freedman and Denise M. Bonilla contributed to
this story.
Time to pull out and allow the Iraqis that supported the US troops to suffer the fate they deserve.
Death, dismemberment, rape, and torture on a wholesale scale rather than what they're getting now.
What do you mean? That is exactly what is happening now because of and
with the US soldiers. Remember Abu-Gharib? Guantanumo?
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18 Aug 2005 04:20:48 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:08:43 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
"Uncle Wally da HOOROO GuruT" <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1124337724.443725.74670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mother's quest to talk to Bush about war draws thousands in
candlelight vigils across the nation
Vigils Calling for End to Iraq War Begin
Aug 17, 2005
BY HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITER
August 18, 2005
Clutching a candle in one hand and a sign that read "Moms for Peace" in
the other, Elise May stood by the side of a busy Great Neck
intersection last night to protest the war in Iraq and support Cindy
Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed there.
"As a mother, as a parent, I'm here because when I see her, I see an
ordinary mom asking why and this is what I've been asking since day
one," said May, 47, referring to Cindy Sheehan's quest in Crawford,
Texas, to speak to President George W. Bush about the war.
Sheehan and organizers accepted an offer from Bush neighbor and Army
veteran Fred Mattlage, who provided his property for the vigil after
some residents grew angry over snarled traffic on the Crawford road.
Hundreds across Long Island and hundreds of thousands nationwide
attended candlelight vigils in support of Sheehan last night. The 10
vigils on Long Island, some with only a handful of supporters and some
with 150 or more, were scheduled to last about 90 minutes.
In Great Neck, a Ronkonkoma woman who gave only her first name, Lynn,
52, was driving by the vigil, turned around and came back to join the
supporters. She said she is against the war. Her son is in the National
Guard, an MP in Baghdad training Iraqi police. "All I do is cry," she
said. "He's not supposed to come back until March. You feel like you
are sitting on a time bomb."
The vigils were coordinated by the Web site MoveOn.org, which got help
organizing nationwide vigils from Democracy for America and True
Majority.
In Water Mill, most of the people, standing in a large semi-circle,
held lit candles as they listened to speakers. One of them, former
Marine Cpt. Joseph Giannini, served in a rifle company in Vietnam.
"Someday we'll have another wall, and another 60,000 American dead," he
said. "If Bush had gone to Vietnam like I did, he'd have the sense not
to go in to a foreign land and think it's a walk in the park."
But the growing attention surrounding Sheehan's quest to speak
personally with Bush has pushed some people away.
"In the very beginning, I was very sympathetic because we were all
experiencing the same thing," said Marianna Winchester, whose son
Ronald, 25, a Marine 1st lieutenant, was killed in western Iraq in
September. "But now I'm at the point that I'm not even watching it
anymore. Like anything else, it's gotten out of hand," she said about
the media spectacle.
"The crusade in my heart goes on every day for everyone who's been
lost," said Winchester of Rockville Centre.
She said she would not "stand out on the street with a sign and block
traffic. But that's what makes the world go round. Everybody expresses
it differently."
Staff writers Mitchell Freedman and Denise M. Bonilla contributed to
this story.
Time to pull out and allow the Iraqis that supported the US troops to suffer the fate they deserve.
Death, dismemberment, rape, and torture on a wholesale scale rather than what they're getting now.
What do you mean? That is exactly what is happening now because of and
with the US soldiers. Remember Abu-Gharib? Guantanumo?
Not to the extent that it was happening with Saddam, tho, and not nearly
so brutal. Saddam's one son, forget which one, liked to toss people
into wood chippers feet first so that he could watch them scream as they
got chopped up.
That said, if the Iraqi people weren't willing to risk their lives to
throw off Saddam, then it certainly wasn't worth American lives to do it
for them, IMHO. (Plus, Iraq has a very long history of fighting between
populations - I really think that they aren't ready for democracy).
Woods
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18 Aug 2005 06:12:25 PM |
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What do you mean? That is exactly what is happening now because of and
with the US soldiers. Remember Abu-Gharib? Guantanumo?
Really? On what scale? There's only 500 guys at Gitmo and handfull was tortured at Abu-Gharib.
Shiite Iranians will over run Iraqi Shiites as soon as we pull out. They want Basra for religious
reasons and the southern sweet crude fields for prestege and power. It'll be shreds brown flesh in
the streets. After a time they'll use Iraq as a staging ground to attack Saudi Arabia with the aid
of Syria. They'll have the holy ground of Basra, Medina, and 3/4 of the worlds oil and natural gas
reserves. Hell yeah, lets pull out.
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19 Aug 2005 02:13:57 AM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
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What do you mean? That is exactly what is happening now because of and
with the US soldiers. Remember Abu-Gharib? Guantanumo?
Really? On what scale? There's only 500 guys at Gitmo and handfull was
tortured at Abu-Gharib.
Shiite Iranians will over run Iraqi Shiites as soon as we pull out.
*****, you really don't have a clue do you?
They want Basra for religious
reasons and the southern sweet crude fields for prestege and power. It'll
be shreds brown flesh in
the streets. After a time they'll use Iraq as a staging ground to attack
Saudi Arabia with the aid
of Syria. They'll have the holy ground of Basra, Medina, and 3/4 of the
worlds oil and natural gas
reserves. Hell yeah, lets pull out.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: A mum's protest spreads |
19 Aug 2005 10:34:47 AM |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:12:25 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:
What do you mean? That is exactly what is happening now because of and
with the US soldiers. Remember Abu-Gharib? Guantanumo?
Really? On what scale? There's only 500 guys at Gitmo and handfull was tortured at Abu-Gharib.
Shiite Iranians will over run Iraqi Shiites as soon as we pull out. They want Basra for religious
reasons and the southern sweet crude fields for prestege and power. It'll be shreds brown flesh in
the streets. After a time they'll use Iraq as a staging ground to attack Saudi Arabia with the aid
of Syria. They'll have the holy ground of Basra, Medina, and 3/4 of the worlds oil and natural gas
reserves. Hell yeah, lets pull out.
The Iranians won't get their chance. Bush is intent on going into
Iran. So what will the excuse for this be? WMD,They need a Democracy,
They are Muslim.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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18 Aug 2005 09:26:19 PM |
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dreamwalker wrote:
What do you mean? That is exactly what is happening now because of and
with the US soldiers. Remember Abu-Gharib? Guantanumo?
Really? On what scale? There's only 500 guys at Gitmo and handfull was tortured at Abu-Gharib.
Scale doesn't matter, it's on whose hands the blood is that matters.
Now it's on ours, too.
Shiite Iranians will over run Iraqi Shiites as soon as we pull out. They want Basra for religious
reasons and the southern sweet crude fields for prestege and power. It'll be shreds brown flesh in
the streets. After a time they'll use Iraq as a staging ground to attack Saudi Arabia with the aid
of Syria. They'll have the holy ground of Basra, Medina, and 3/4 of the worlds oil and natural gas
reserves. Hell yeah, lets pull out.
Bush got us between a rock and a hard place. If we pull out, it'll be
utter chaos, as you indicate, if we don't, we'll be stuck in the quagmire.
Woods
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| User: "dreamwalker" |
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18 Aug 2005 09:37:40 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message news:frbNe.5226$PM3.404@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
dreamwalker wrote:
What do you mean? That is exactly what is happening now because of and
with the US soldiers. Remember Abu-Gharib? Guantanumo?
Really? On what scale? There's only 500 guys at Gitmo and handfull was tortured at Abu-Gharib.
Scale doesn't matter, it's on whose hands the blood is that matters. Now it's on ours, too.
I know some old crotchety WWII vets at a neighborhood VFW who still some jap shrunkin' heads. Hey,
war is nasty business. Overall I'd say the boys are doing pretty good.
Shiite Iranians will over run Iraqi Shiites as soon as we pull out. They want Basra for religious
reasons and the southern sweet crude fields for prestege and power. It'll be shreds brown flesh
in the streets. After a time they'll use Iraq as a staging ground to attack Saudi Arabia with the
aid of Syria. They'll have the holy ground of Basra, Medina, and 3/4 of the worlds oil and
natural gas reserves. Hell yeah, lets pull out.
Bush got us between a rock and a hard place. If we pull out, it'll be utter chaos, as you
indicate, if we don't, we'll be stuck in the quagmire.
It'll all work out as planned and destined.
Woods
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