Rita, a Category 5. If this ends up as disasterous, or perhaps more
disastrous than Katrina, then what?
Will Bush announce yet more cuts to pay for the reconstruction? -Still
stubbornly
refuse to continue to ***** away Billions in Iraq? Insist on the
Hundreds of Billions giveaway to Billionaires with Repeal of the Estate
Tax? Whoa!!! This is just getting wayyyy too scary.
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21 Sep 2005 03:59:44 PM |
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eric wrote / skrev:
Rita, a Category 5. If this ends up as disasterous, or perhaps more
disastrous than Katrina, then what?
Will Bush announce yet more cuts to pay for the reconstruction? -Still
stubbornly
refuse to continue to ***** away Billions in Iraq? Insist on the
Hundreds of Billions giveaway to Billionaires with Repeal of the Estate
Tax? Whoa!!! This is just getting wayyyy too scary.
This means nothing to me (oh, Vienna)...
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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21 Sep 2005 07:11:53 PM |
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"Tugboat Captain" <Tug@boat.captain> wrote in message
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eric wrote / skrev:
Rita, a Category 5. If this ends up as disasterous, or perhaps more
disastrous than Katrina, then what?
Will Bush announce yet more cuts to pay for the reconstruction? -Still
stubbornly
refuse to continue to ***** away Billions in Iraq? Insist on the
Hundreds of Billions giveaway to Billionaires with Repeal of the Estate
Tax? Whoa!!! This is just getting wayyyy too scary.
This means nothing to me (oh, Vienna)...
Wrong. Your whole existence depends on the US. If America sneezes, you catch
a cold. If things go bad in America, you will suddenly find yourself in the
middle ages. As you yourself said it once, you are NOTHING without the US.
Stat.
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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21 Sep 2005 08:33:53 PM |
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:AFmYe.8910$0u2.1735766@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Tugboat Captain" <Tug@boat.captain> wrote in message
news:4RjYe.146775$dP1.503518@newsc.telia.net...
eric wrote / skrev:
Rita, a Category 5. If this ends up as disasterous, or perhaps more
disastrous than Katrina, then what?
Will Bush announce yet more cuts to pay for the reconstruction? -Still
stubbornly
refuse to continue to ***** away Billions in Iraq? Insist on the
Hundreds of Billions giveaway to Billionaires with Repeal of the Estate
Tax? Whoa!!! This is just getting wayyyy too scary.
This means nothing to me (oh, Vienna)...
Wrong. Your whole existence depends on the US. If America sneezes, you
catch
a cold. If things go bad in America, you will suddenly find yourself in
the
middle ages. As you yourself said it once, you are NOTHING without the US.
Stat.
I would not be so sure of that. Kingdoms come and kingdoms go. Egypt,
Greece, Rome,
Babylon. We've seen it throughout history and the human race, especially in
Europe
managed to survive crisis after crisis, including the plaque. I really think
that we in Europe
could live without the USA. New markets everywhere, it's just adaption. But
could the
USA survive without Europe? Considering the total blunder the war in Iraq
really is I
would say yes.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jane" |
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21 Sep 2005 07:50:59 PM |
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I'm glad you realize that, Stat. Of course, people like Zak/Daark and
eric cheer disasters when they happen to the US and hope for its
downfall, seemingly unaware that we go down with them...Either that, or
they have masochistic tendencies.
Jane
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| User: "eric" |
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21 Sep 2005 11:03:13 PM |
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Jane, u ignorant *****...
Again, and again u misrepresent me, my arguments, and my motives.
Cheer American disasters? Lie on, Harpee. Lie, and lie, and lie, and
when you're finished that, lie some more, loser. The fact is, gumbas
like u r destroying America, and people that really care, want America
to change her course before she destroys herself, and wrecks the world
economy.
Jane, You really are a Shameless Liar and such a Dumbass. If you
don't think that we realize that the world is affected deleteriously by
the downfall of American Society, then you really are deserving of the
title "Ignorant *****". That's why we "Cassandras", are tired of losers
like u who help those whom the Gods would Destroy.
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| User: "Jane" |
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22 Sep 2005 06:54:38 AM |
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"Whom the Gods would destroy"? You really are losing it! If the
"Gods" would destroy the US, then tell me why they would destroy Sri
Lanka (for example)?
As for being such a threat...I work, pay taxes, vote, shop, party once
in a while and post the odd article on this silly newsgroup. Hardly
any influence on your way of life. At least I don't pretend to be
something I'm not...and, BTW, why are you not down south helping out by
now?
Jane
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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22 Sep 2005 09:04:32 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:1127390078.941709.231080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
"Whom the Gods would destroy"? You really are losing it! If the
"Gods" would destroy the US, then tell me why they would destroy Sri
Lanka (for example)?
As for being such a threat...I work, pay taxes, vote, shop, party once
in a while and post the odd article on this silly newsgroup. Hardly
any influence on your way of life. At least I don't pretend to be
something I'm not...and, BTW, why are you not down south helping out by
now?
Why would he? Since the USA is so capable of waging wars while they cannot
afford it just to increase the revenue of some industries? You can lead the
world
or you cannot and Bush cannot.
Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jane" |
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23 Sep 2005 01:36:14 PM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:43336226$0$10042$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:1127390078.941709.231080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
"Whom the Gods would destroy"? You really are losing it! If the
"Gods" would destroy the US, then tell me why they would destroy Sri
Lanka (for example)?
As for being such a threat...I work, pay taxes, vote, shop, party once
in a while and post the odd article on this silly newsgroup. Hardly
any influence on your way of life. At least I don't pretend to be
something I'm not...and, BTW, why are you not down south helping out by
now?
Why would he?
Only because he was accusing me of being an uncaring ***** who, while I may
donate some $$, sit on my fat ***** (his words) and do nothing. I suggested
he put his actions where his mouth is, is all. That comment was meant for
eric only.
Jane
Since the USA is so capable of waging wars while they cannot
afford it just to increase the revenue of some industries? You can lead
the
world
or you cannot and Bush cannot.
Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "eric" |
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22 Sep 2005 11:46:33 AM |
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Jane, u ignorant *****.
"Whom the Gods would destroy - They first drive Insane." The Bush
Neo-Cons are the nutcases- and they're the ones to be destroyed. The
problem is, they, like Hitler are probably going to try to take the
world to Hell with them.
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| User: "Tugboat Captain" |
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22 Sep 2005 12:22:06 AM |
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MonsieurStat wrote / skrev:
"Tugboat Captain" <Tug@boat.captain> wrote in message
news:4RjYe.146775$dP1.503518@newsc.telia.net...
eric wrote / skrev:
Rita, a Category 5. If this ends up as disasterous, or perhaps more
disastrous than Katrina, then what?
Will Bush announce yet more cuts to pay for the reconstruction? -Still
stubbornly
refuse to continue to ***** away Billions in Iraq? Insist on the
Hundreds of Billions giveaway to Billionaires with Repeal of the Estate
Tax? Whoa!!! This is just getting wayyyy too scary.
This means nothing to me (oh, Vienna)...
Wrong. Your whole existence depends on the US. If America sneezes, you catch
a cold. If things go bad in America, you will suddenly find yourself in the
middle ages. As you yourself said it once, you are NOTHING without the US.
Stat.
Ah, it doesn't matter anymore. There is no cure for what the future
brings. But, as I also have said: Everything will turn out fine in the
end.
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| User: "" |
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21 Sep 2005 07:35:32 PM |
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It's already the third most intense hurricane ever recorded at 899 mb.
Perhaps it'll grow more intense.
In four short years, we've had the worst terrorist attacks in American
history, along with the attack on the Pentagon, biological warfare, a
shuttle explosion, two wars, a growing oil crisis, the destruction of
New Orleans by the third worst natural disaster to hit America, the
tsunamis which wiped out most all of the Southeastern Asian coast, and
if you go back to 2000 the closest presidential election ever in
American history. Not to mention what I stated above about the third
most intense hurricane which could easily become more intense in the
coming days.
If we aren't leading to a crescendo of destruction (and these are all
mere coincidences) then I'd really be shocked. Things are going to get
much worse - mark my words.
grav
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| User: "mondo" |
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21 Sep 2005 11:09:01 PM |
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<FLjeffbeach@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1127349332.958403.49500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It's already the third most intense hurricane ever recorded at 899 mb.
Perhaps it'll grow more intense.
In four short years, we've had the worst terrorist attacks in American
history, along with the attack on the Pentagon, biological warfare, a
shuttle explosion, two wars, a growing oil crisis, the destruction of
New Orleans by the third worst natural disaster to hit America, the
tsunamis which wiped out most all of the Southeastern Asian coast, and
if you go back to 2000 the closest presidential election ever in
American history. Not to mention what I stated above about the third
most intense hurricane which could easily become more intense in the
coming days.
If we aren't leading to a crescendo of destruction (and these are all
mere coincidences) then I'd really be shocked. Things are going to get
much worse - mark my words.
grav
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| User: "mondo" |
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21 Sep 2005 11:10:57 PM |
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If we aren't leading to a crescendo of destruction (and these are all
mere coincidences) then I'd really be shocked. Things are going to get
much worse - mark my words.
grav
The distruction already took place a long time ago..... America is just
startubg ti catching up, that's all!!
mondo
<FLjeffbeach@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1127349332.958403.49500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It's already the third most intense hurricane ever recorded at 899 mb.
Perhaps it'll grow more intense.
In four short years, we've had the worst terrorist attacks in American
history, along with the attack on the Pentagon, biological warfare, a
shuttle explosion, two wars, a growing oil crisis, the destruction of
New Orleans by the third worst natural disaster to hit America, the
tsunamis which wiped out most all of the Southeastern Asian coast, and
if you go back to 2000 the closest presidential election ever in
American history. Not to mention what I stated above about the third
most intense hurricane which could easily become more intense in the
coming days.
If we aren't leading to a crescendo of destruction (and these are all
mere coincidences) then I'd really be shocked. Things are going to get
much worse - mark my words.
grav
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| User: "eric" |
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21 Sep 2005 07:39:17 PM |
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And don't forget, you have the Worst President in History. Bush. Just
the guy to make a Good Situation Bad, a Bad Situation Worse, and turn a
Disaster into the Apocolypse so many his constituents hope and pray for.
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| User: "mondo" |
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21 Sep 2005 11:22:06 PM |
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Everything he touches turns to stone ...
mondo
"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127349557.742291.76710@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
And don't forget, you have the Worst President in History. Bush. Just
the guy to make a Good Situation Bad, a Bad Situation Worse, and turn a
Disaster into the Apocolypse so many his constituents hope and pray for.
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| User: "stefanie bunko" |
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23 Sep 2005 07:54:42 AM |
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I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other countries to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why? Because they are way to waste full
and use more then we do. I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse
the states, but I hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that
you REALLY need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your feet' - but
atleast try like us up north.
<FLjeffbeach@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1127349332.958403.49500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It's already the third most intense hurricane ever recorded at 899 mb.
Perhaps it'll grow more intense.
In four short years, we've had the worst terrorist attacks in American
history, along with the attack on the Pentagon, biological warfare, a
shuttle explosion, two wars, a growing oil crisis, the destruction of
New Orleans by the third worst natural disaster to hit America, the
tsunamis which wiped out most all of the Southeastern Asian coast, and
if you go back to 2000 the closest presidential election ever in
American history. Not to mention what I stated above about the third
most intense hurricane which could easily become more intense in the
coming days.
If we aren't leading to a crescendo of destruction (and these are all
mere coincidences) then I'd really be shocked. Things are going to get
much worse - mark my words.
grav
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
23 Sep 2005 09:42:10 AM |
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stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other countries to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your feet' - but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
23 Sep 2005 01:38:43 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is why I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
Jane
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
24 Sep 2005 12:11:06 AM |
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Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is why I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
I agree. And it's not like we're not taking steps to reduce our energy
consumption. All energy using appliances and equipment are far more
efficient now than ever before. Newer houses are better insulated to
reduce heating and cooling costs. More people are starting to replace
their incandescent light bulbs with those lower wattage florescent
bulbs to save electricity. We all need to be aware of our own personal
energy consumption, and where we can conserve whenever possible.
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| User: "stefanie bunko" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
24 Sep 2005 09:16:23 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they
are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil
from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
yeah,.. energy,.. natural gas. That is what is used in 'the cold climate',
not oil.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest
energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is why I
do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
I agree. And it's not like we're not taking steps to reduce our energy
consumption. All energy using appliances and equipment are far more
efficient now than ever before. Newer houses are better insulated to
reduce heating and cooling costs. More people are starting to replace
their incandescent light bulbs with those lower wattage florescent
bulbs to save electricity. We all need to be aware of our own personal
energy consumption, and where we can conserve whenever possible.
well I don't what everyone else in the 'broad Canada', but I know that
everyone on my block has jumped on that florescent bandwagon before the
government started pushing it. And about the pumps,.. I feel ybad for all
of you that have the 'crazies' at the pumps. Atleast at southwestern
Ontario (at my city) there are no crazies here. Managed to keep our prices
at 99.3 a litre too (and I think it's do to no crazies!!).
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| User: "mondo" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
24 Sep 2005 09:48:11 PM |
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well I don't what everyone else in the 'broad Canada', but I know that
everyone on my block has jumped on that florescent bandwagon before the
government started pushing it. And about the pumps,.. I feel ybad for all
of you that have the 'crazies' at the pumps. Atleast at southwestern
Ontario (at my city) there are no crazies here. Managed to keep our
prices at 99.3 a litre too (and I think it's do to no crazies!!).
I replaced all my incandescent bulbs with the florescent ones a couple years
back..
All the fluorescents died within a year. I felt robbed; I would never get
the fluroscent bulbs again. I prefer the lighthing from incandescent bulbs
better anyhow.
Maybe I will try the new LED ones when they get more affordable. I have a
feeling they would be way more reliable.
they are *****.
"stefanie bunko" <stefanie.bunko@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:0MnZe.463$Bi.137045@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they
are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil
from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
yeah,.. energy,.. natural gas. That is what is used in 'the cold
climate', not oil.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest
energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is why
I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
I agree. And it's not like we're not taking steps to reduce our energy
consumption. All energy using appliances and equipment are far more
efficient now than ever before. Newer houses are better insulated to
reduce heating and cooling costs. More people are starting to replace
their incandescent light bulbs with those lower wattage florescent
bulbs to save electricity. We all need to be aware of our own personal
energy consumption, and where we can conserve whenever possible.
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| User: "Jane" |
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25 Sep 2005 05:20:30 AM |
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"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
news:XdoZe.3765$5I2.14371@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
well I don't what everyone else in the 'broad Canada', but I know that
everyone on my block has jumped on that florescent bandwagon before the
government started pushing it. And about the pumps,.. I feel ybad for
all of you that have the 'crazies' at the pumps. Atleast at southwestern
Ontario (at my city) there are no crazies here. Managed to keep our
prices at 99.3 a litre too (and I think it's do to no crazies!!).
I replaced all my incandescent bulbs with the florescent ones a couple
years back..
All the fluorescents died within a year. I felt robbed; I would never get
the fluroscent bulbs again. I prefer the lighthing from incandescent
bulbs better anyhow.
Me too! I kept reading that they were worth the $ because they lasted so
much longer, but I also found they died as quickly as the incandescent
lights and, you're right, the light is not as nice.
Jane
Maybe I will try the new LED ones when they get more affordable. I have a
feeling they would be way more reliable.
they are *****.
"stefanie bunko" <stefanie.bunko@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:0MnZe.463$Bi.137045@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that
they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil
from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly"
larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same
amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita
basis
than Canada uses.
yeah,.. energy,.. natural gas. That is what is used in 'the cold
climate', not oil.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest
energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is why
I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
I agree. And it's not like we're not taking steps to reduce our energy
consumption. All energy using appliances and equipment are far more
efficient now than ever before. Newer houses are better insulated to
reduce heating and cooling costs. More people are starting to replace
their incandescent light bulbs with those lower wattage florescent
bulbs to save electricity. We all need to be aware of our own personal
energy consumption, and where we can conserve whenever possible.
.
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| User: "mondo" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
25 Sep 2005 09:06:15 AM |
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Me too! I kept reading that they were worth the $ because they lasted so
much longer, but I also found they died as quickly as the incandescent
lights and, you're right, the light is not as nice.
I wonder if the screw-in ones are rigged to die after x number of hours, or
if it's just poor engineering. My mom has a regular fluorescent light in the
kitchen. So far, it's lasted 15 years still going strong. She uses it allot.
That's a long time for a lightbulb to last.
mondo
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HRuZe.23$cq2.2781@news20.bellglobal.com...
"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
news:XdoZe.3765$5I2.14371@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
well I don't what everyone else in the 'broad Canada', but I know that
everyone on my block has jumped on that florescent bandwagon before the
government started pushing it. And about the pumps,.. I feel ybad for
all of you that have the 'crazies' at the pumps. Atleast at
southwestern Ontario (at my city) there are no crazies here. Managed to
keep our prices at 99.3 a litre too (and I think it's do to no
crazies!!).
I replaced all my incandescent bulbs with the florescent ones a couple
years back..
All the fluorescents died within a year. I felt robbed; I would never get
the fluroscent bulbs again. I prefer the lighthing from incandescent
bulbs better anyhow.
Me too! I kept reading that they were worth the $ because they lasted so
much longer, but I also found they died as quickly as the incandescent
lights and, you're right, the light is not as nice.
Jane
Maybe I will try the new LED ones when they get more affordable. I have a
feeling they would be way more reliable.
they are *****.
"stefanie bunko" <stefanie.bunko@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:0MnZe.463$Bi.137045@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that
they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil
from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly"
larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same
amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita
basis
than Canada uses.
yeah,.. energy,.. natural gas. That is what is used in 'the cold
climate', not oil.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but
I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest
energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is
why I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
I agree. And it's not like we're not taking steps to reduce our energy
consumption. All energy using appliances and equipment are far more
efficient now than ever before. Newer houses are better insulated to
reduce heating and cooling costs. More people are starting to replace
their incandescent light bulbs with those lower wattage florescent
bulbs to save electricity. We all need to be aware of our own personal
energy consumption, and where we can conserve whenever possible.
.
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| User: "stefanie bunko" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
25 Sep 2005 09:16:06 AM |
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"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
news:E9yZe.3808$5I2.14682@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
Me too! I kept reading that they were worth the $ because they lasted so
much longer, but I also found they died as quickly as the incandescent
lights and, you're right, the light is not as nice.
I wonder if the screw-in ones are rigged to die after x number of hours,
or if it's just poor engineering. My mom has a regular fluorescent light
in the kitchen. So far, it's lasted 15 years still going strong. She uses
it allot. That's a long time for a lightbulb to last.
Well the screw in ones are the ones I have,.. bought them when I bought this
house,.. it's been 2 years now,.. seem to be working well.
mondo
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HRuZe.23$cq2.2781@news20.bellglobal.com...
"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
news:XdoZe.3765$5I2.14371@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
well I don't what everyone else in the 'broad Canada', but I know that
everyone on my block has jumped on that florescent bandwagon before the
government started pushing it. And about the pumps,.. I feel ybad for
all of you that have the 'crazies' at the pumps. Atleast at
southwestern Ontario (at my city) there are no crazies here. Managed
to keep our prices at 99.3 a litre too (and I think it's do to no
crazies!!).
I replaced all my incandescent bulbs with the florescent ones a couple
years back..
All the fluorescents died within a year. I felt robbed; I would never
get the fluroscent bulbs again. I prefer the lighthing from
incandescent bulbs better anyhow.
Me too! I kept reading that they were worth the $ because they lasted so
much longer, but I also found they died as quickly as the incandescent
lights and, you're right, the light is not as nice.
Jane
Maybe I will try the new LED ones when they get more affordable. I have
a feeling they would be way more reliable.
they are *****.
"stefanie bunko" <stefanie.bunko@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:0MnZe.463$Bi.137045@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that
they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil
from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly"
larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same
amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita
basis
than Canada uses.
yeah,.. energy,.. natural gas. That is what is used in 'the cold
climate', not oil.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but
I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you
REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of
decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States,
you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest
energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is
why I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
I agree. And it's not like we're not taking steps to reduce our energy
consumption. All energy using appliances and equipment are far more
efficient now than ever before. Newer houses are better insulated to
reduce heating and cooling costs. More people are starting to replace
their incandescent light bulbs with those lower wattage florescent
bulbs to save electricity. We all need to be aware of our own personal
energy consumption, and where we can conserve whenever possible.
.
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| User: "mondo" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
25 Sep 2005 10:57:22 AM |
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Well the screw in ones are the ones I have,.. bought them when I bought
this house,.. it's been 2 years now,.. seem to be working well.
They won't last much longer, trust me!
mondo
"stefanie bunko" <stefanie.bunko@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:LiyZe.64$l03.13608@news20.bellglobal.com...
"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
news:E9yZe.3808$5I2.14682@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
Me too! I kept reading that they were worth the $ because they lasted
so much longer, but I also found they died as quickly as the
incandescent lights and, you're right, the light is not as nice.
I wonder if the screw-in ones are rigged to die after x number of hours,
or if it's just poor engineering. My mom has a regular fluorescent light
in the kitchen. So far, it's lasted 15 years still going strong. She uses
it allot. That's a long time for a lightbulb to last.
mondo
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HRuZe.23$cq2.2781@news20.bellglobal.com...
"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
news:XdoZe.3765$5I2.14371@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
well I don't what everyone else in the 'broad Canada', but I know that
everyone on my block has jumped on that florescent bandwagon before
the government started pushing it. And about the pumps,.. I feel ybad
for all of you that have the 'crazies' at the pumps. Atleast at
southwestern Ontario (at my city) there are no crazies here. Managed
to keep our prices at 99.3 a litre too (and I think it's do to no
crazies!!).
I replaced all my incandescent bulbs with the florescent ones a couple
years back..
All the fluorescents died within a year. I felt robbed; I would never
get the fluroscent bulbs again. I prefer the lighthing from
incandescent bulbs better anyhow.
Me too! I kept reading that they were worth the $ because they lasted
so much longer, but I also found they died as quickly as the
incandescent lights and, you're right, the light is not as nice.
Jane
Maybe I will try the new LED ones when they get more affordable. I have
a feeling they would be way more reliable.
they are *****.
"stefanie bunko" <stefanie.bunko@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:0MnZe.463$Bi.137045@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American
is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that
they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH
oil from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly"
larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same
amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita
basis
than Canada uses.
yeah,.. energy,.. natural gas. That is what is used in 'the cold
climate', not oil.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states,
but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you
REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of
decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States,
you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the
biggest energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is
why I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
I agree. And it's not like we're not taking steps to reduce our
energy
consumption. All energy using appliances and equipment are far more
efficient now than ever before. Newer houses are better insulated to
reduce heating and cooling costs. More people are starting to replace
their incandescent light bulbs with those lower wattage florescent
bulbs to save electricity. We all need to be aware of our own
personal
energy consumption, and where we can conserve whenever possible.
.
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| User: "stefanie bunko" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
24 Sep 2005 09:25:19 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same
amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
Canadians consume about the same or maybe even a little more?!!? *laughs*
yeah,.. guess you haven't looked it up,.. but here I did it for you;
U.S.A
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us
Population: 295,734,000
GDP per capita: $39731.65 per person
Canada
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ca
Population: 32,805,000
GDP per capita: $31184.27 per person
looks like we use less to me,.. even if the US has more people, your country
still uses more on a per person basis.
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
25 Sep 2005 05:18:54 AM |
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"stefanie bunko" <stefanie.bunko@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:oUnZe.464$Bi.137605@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127538666.240723.109210@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same
amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
Canadians consume about the same or maybe even a little more?!!? *laughs*
yeah,.. guess you haven't looked it up,.. but here I did it for you;
U.S.A
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us
Population: 295,734,000
GDP per capita: $39731.65 per person
Canada
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ca
Population: 32,805,000
GDP per capita: $31184.27 per person
Sorry, gross domestic product is not a measure of energy consumption!
Acording to this website, http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/canenv.html
,Canada's per capita consumption in 2001 was 402 million Btu per person
while the US's was 341.8 million Btu per person. Admittedly, it is a US
site, but I have heard those statistics before. It's just the first one to
come up when I googled. Both counries have much higher consumtion than in
Europe or Japan. Ontario is also the 3rd highest polluting state/ province
in North America, according to a graph on this site, which is nothing to be
proud of.
The lightbulbs, etc, definitely help, as do the energy-efficient
appliances...but the main thing is to ditch the big vehicles. It pains me
to say that, as we own a van and a half-ton and we work for GM, :(!
Jane
looks like we use less to me,.. even if the US has more people, your
country still uses more on a per person basis.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
23 Sep 2005 04:15:46 PM |
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Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other countries
to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your feet' -
but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have nothing
to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the biggest energy
users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is why I do
not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
Jane
Being from Eastern Ontario, and having been here for the Ice Storm that
shut down the electrical grid for days in the dead of winter, I'd say we
do have a reason to be proud of our behaviour under stressful situations.
No looting, no killing.
--
The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely.
-Carl Jung
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
23 Sep 2005 04:18:25 PM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android wrote:
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that
they are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' - but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the
biggest energy users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or
worse per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is
why I do not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
Jane
Being from Eastern Ontario, and having been here for the Ice Storm that
shut down the electrical grid for days in the dead of winter, I'd say we
do have a reason to be proud of our behaviour under stressful situations.
No looting, no killing.
Pardon the total brain fart that just happened ... reread your post then
realized I was replying to one I had read a few days ago ... :-D
Great minds work in mysterious ways!
Cheers!
--
The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely.
-Carl Jung
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: A Perfect Storm |
23 Sep 2005 05:23:15 PM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:1127510430.3fbfd431bf5a5d23500880b5961c9481@teranews...
Marvin The Paranoid Android wrote:
Jane wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127486530.146128.117480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
stefanie bunko wrote:
I think I need to find the title of I book I once read. Very
interesting,..
talks about how Rome rose and fell,.. *laughs* and how American is
following
in it's foot steps. I never understood why Americans think that they
are
'all' in the world. Like if their downfall would create other
countries to
fall to. *rolls eyes* I think not. Americans buy WAY TO MUCH oil
from
Canada,.. more then what we buy,.. why?
Maybe because the population of the United States is "slightly" larger
than that of Canada?
Because they are way to waste full and use more then we do.
On a per capita basis, Canadian citizens consume about the same amount
(or maybe even a little more) energy as US citizens do. The cold
climate has something to do with that, but there are cold climates
elsewhere in the world that use much less energy on a per capita basis
than Canada uses.
I don't think the hurricanes are going to paralyse the states, but I
hope that it opens the eyes of Americans to realize that you REALLY
need to conserve. Find energies that doesn't destroy the earth.
Good idea. We'll get some people working on that today.
And by the way, relative to per capita energy consumption of decades
past, we're doing quite well at conserving energy these days.
Yes you'll need to use some toxic energies till you get on 'your
feet' - but
atleast try like us up north.
If Canada had a population equal to that of the United States, you'd
use more energy than we do.
That is true, Steven. I have said before in this group that we have
nothing to be smug about up here. North Americans on a whole are the
biggest energy users on the planet and we Canadians are as bad or worse
per capita.
Mind you, China and India are rapidly catching up with us, which is why
I do not support a kyoto deal that excludes them.
Jane
Being from Eastern Ontario, and having been here for the Ice Storm that
shut down the electrical grid for days in the dead of winter, I'd say we
do have a reason to be proud of our behaviour under stressful situations.
No looting, no killing.
Pardon the total brain fart that just happened ... reread your post then
realized I was replying to one I had read a few days ago ... :-D
Great minds work in mysterious ways!
Cheers!
I was wondering there, :)! Yep, folks behaved well during the ice
storm...but they certainly did not last night at the gas pumps!
Jane
--
The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely.
-Carl Jung
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