MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e0c4671a0a?hl=en&
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
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22 Apr 2007 03:42:36 PM |
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Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn_latest
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
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22 Apr 2007 04:43:25 PM |
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On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip? You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Remember Nostradamus had a contempt for Ignorance!
LB
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23 Apr 2007 04:21:16 AM |
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On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb." I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, since it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferable as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 degrees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program viewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Remember Nostradamus had a contempt for Ignorance!
Then he must really be loathing you, wherever he is!
Eagal
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23 Apr 2007 05:59:10 AM |
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On Apr 23, 7:21 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb."
Like Nostradamus would be interested in a rather mundane event in the
USA, yes Mensa only!
I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, since it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferable as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 degrees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program viewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Perhaps you should look on the astro more as metaphor as opposed to a
conjunction, they read better that way see (C6Q100)
Remember Nostradamus had a contempt for Ignorance!
Then he must really be loathing you, wherever he is!
Eagal-
see (C6Q100)
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23 Apr 2007 06:32:32 AM |
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On Apr 23, 3:59 am, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 7:21 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb."
Like Nostradamus would be interested in a rather mundane event in the
USA, yes Mensa only!
I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, since it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferable as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 degrees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program viewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Perhaps you should look on the astro more as metaphor as opposed to a
conjunction, they read better that way see (C6Q100)
Mars being poised between two seas within the 3-month period from 1
March to 30 May 2007 was solved as its transition at the Aquarius/
Pisces cusp in the previous thread, where you characteristically made
your blanket denials and negative comments. You cannot explain why
Mars would be in this correct position, the ONLY place in the Zodiac
where it can be said to be "between two seas" in the timespan
delineated by a theory you refuse to accept. This solution relied on
a combination of two separate lines from different verses, there's no
room for metaphor. And I'm probably one of very few NOT violating the
warning of VI.100 - this isn't astrology, it's faith-based. I had
*faith* that Mars being at the Midheaven point at 10:20am EDT would
prove pivotal to the timing of that fateful scenario BEFORE I fully
researched the timeline, which was the reason for the retraction.
While I had articles about the shootings, and heard some reports, I
was not immersed in the details of the story; and when I attempted an
initial search for the timeline, a page on msnbc's site claimed to
have it, but I couldn't find it. I presumed it had been deleted
deliberately. I didn't discuss the timeline with anyone until after
I'd made the initial post, then I searched again, and found the
10:20am chronology was indeed important in the story as being the time
students began reading the email that officially cancelled classes,
which some obviously feel was a move that should have come after the
first shooting incident. I'd heard there was an attack around 9am and
another one, and that they were about two hours apart, so I made a
false presumption based around my faith that 10:20am would be pivotal,
which was proven when the actual details were acquired. No one told
me wrong information, and now the correct timeline has been provided
for clarification.
Why this event would be important enough to merit any prophetic
reference at all of course I can only answer by saying it has been
reported as the worst domestic incident of its kind in terms of
lethality, and that it might prove a temporal stepping stone towards
other events we may all agree are more critical to a wider group. I
have never claimed to know what Nostradamus meant by all of his
writings, nor to have comprehensive knowledge of all future events
myself. I have only promised to conduct a public examination of his
prophecies using my own unique interpretative techniques, and implied
that I have some general awareness of certain aspects of what may loom
in the future from various sources, some of which will not be
revealed. You have expressed how this is not to your liking, and I
have responded that you therefore do not have my permission to read my
posts. The more accurate my theories prove to be, the more
objectionable they will be to you, as the current case demonstrates.
If this incident is so unimportant, get the media to ignore it.
Eagal
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23 Apr 2007 05:04:29 PM |
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On Apr 23, 9:32 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:59 am, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 7:21 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb."
Like Nostradamus would be interested in a rather mundane event in the
USA, yes Mensa only!
I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, since it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferable as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 degrees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program viewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Perhaps you should look on the astro more as metaphor as opposed to a
conjunction, they read better that way see (C6Q100)
Mars being poised between two seas within the 3-month period from 1
March to 30 May 2007 was solved as its transition at the Aquarius/
Pisces cusp in the previous thread, where you characteristically made
your blanket denials and negative comments. You cannot explain why
Mars would be in this correct position, the ONLY place in the Zodiac
where it can be said to be "between two seas" in the timespan
delineated by a theory you refuse to accept. This solution relied on
a combination of two separate lines from different verses, there's no
room for metaphor. And I'm probably one of very few NOT violating the
warning of VI.100 - this isn't astrology, it's faith-based. I had
*faith* that Mars being at the Midheaven point at 10:20am EDT would
prove pivotal to the timing of that fateful scenario BEFORE I fully
researched the timeline, which was the reason for the retraction.
While I had articles about the shootings, and heard some reports, I
was not immersed in the details of the story; and when I attempted an
initial search for the timeline, a page on msnbc's site claimed to
have it, but I couldn't find it. I presumed it had been deleted
deliberately. I didn't discuss the timeline with anyone until after
I'd made the initial post, then I searched again, and found the
10:20am chronology was indeed important in the story as being the time
students began reading the email that officially cancelled classes,
which some obviously feel was a move that should have come after the
first shooting incident. I'd heard there was an attack around 9am and
another one, and that they were about two hours apart, so I made a
false presumption based around my faith that 10:20am would be pivotal,
which was proven when the actual details were acquired. No one told
me wrong information, and now the correct timeline has been provided
for clarification.
Why this event would be important enough to merit any prophetic
reference at all of course I can only answer by saying it has been
reported as the worst domestic incident of its kind in terms of
lethality, and that it might prove a temporal stepping stone towards
other events we may all agree are more critical to a wider group. I
have never claimed to know what Nostradamus meant by all of his
writings, nor to have comprehensive knowledge of all future events
myself. I have only promised to conduct a public examination of his
prophecies using my own unique interpretative techniques, and implied
that I have some general awareness of certain aspects of what may loom
in the future from various sources, some of which will not be
revealed. You have expressed how this is not to your liking, and I
have responded that you therefore do not have my permission to read my
posts. The more accurate my theories prove to be, the more
objectionable they will be to you, as the current case demonstrates.
If this incident is so unimportant, get the media to ignore it.
Eagal- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So no Timmy McVeigh then?
Doesn't count?
LB
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| Title: Re: Another Nostradamian Dilemma |
23 Apr 2007 05:27:37 PM |
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On Apr 23, 3:04 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 9:32 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:59 am, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 7:21 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb."
Like Nostradamus would be interested in a rather mundane event in the
USA, yes Mensa only!
I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, since it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferable as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 degrees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program viewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Perhaps you should look on the astro more as metaphor as opposed to a
conjunction, they read better that way see (C6Q100)
Mars being poised between two seas within the 3-month period from 1
March to 30 May 2007 was solved as its transition at the Aquarius/
Pisces cusp in the previous thread, where you characteristically made
your blanket denials and negative comments. You cannot explain why
Mars would be in this correct position, the ONLY place in the Zodiac
where it can be said to be "between two seas" in the timespan
delineated by a theory you refuse to accept. This solution relied on
a combination of two separate lines from different verses, there's no
room for metaphor. And I'm probably one of very few NOT violating the
warning of VI.100 - this isn't astrology, it's faith-based. I had
*faith* that Mars being at the Midheaven point at 10:20am EDT would
prove pivotal to the timing of that fateful scenario BEFORE I fully
researched the timeline, which was the reason for the retraction.
While I had articles about the shootings, and heard some reports, I
was not immersed in the details of the story; and when I attempted an
initial search for the timeline, a page on msnbc's site claimed to
have it, but I couldn't find it. I presumed it had been deleted
deliberately. I didn't discuss the timeline with anyone until after
I'd made the initial post, then I searched again, and found the
10:20am chronology was indeed important in the story as being the time
students began reading the email that officially cancelled classes,
which some obviously feel was a move that should have come after the
first shooting incident. I'd heard there was an attack around 9am and
another one, and that they were about two hours apart, so I made a
false presumption based around my faith that 10:20am would be pivotal,
which was proven when the actual details were acquired. No one told
me wrong information, and now the correct timeline has been provided
for clarification.
Why this event would be important enough to merit any prophetic
reference at all of course I can only answer by saying it has been
reported as the worst domestic incident of its kind in terms of
lethality, and that it might prove a temporal stepping stone towards
other events we may all agree are more critical to a wider group. I
have never claimed to know what Nostradamus meant by all of his
writings, nor to have comprehensive knowledge of all future events
myself. I have only promised to conduct a public examination of his
prophecies using my own unique interpretative techniques, and implied
that I have some general awareness of certain aspects of what may loom
in the future from various sources, some of which will not be
revealed. You have expressed how this is not to your liking, and I
have responded that you therefore do not have my permission to read my
posts. The more accurate my theories prove to be, the more
objectionable they will be to you, as the current case demonstrates.
If this incident is so unimportant, get the media to ignore it.
Eagal- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So no Timmy McVeigh then?
Doesn't count?
I'd stated before, X.72 was a wake-up call that after 1999 there would
be a period of greater activity. I've pointed out verses that could
be applied to the Challenger shuttle disaster, the Panama invasion and
other events in recent history pre-1999, but they appear more
isolated, rather than part of an intricate network as these current
fulfillments have manifested.
.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Another Nostradamian Dilemma |
24 Apr 2007 01:33:55 AM |
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On Apr 24, 8:27 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:04 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 9:32 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:59 am, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 7:21 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb."
Like Nostradamus would be interested in a rather mundane event in the
USA, yes Mensa only!
I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, since it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferable as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 degrees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program viewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Perhaps you should look on the astro more as metaphor as opposed to a
conjunction, they read better that way see (C6Q100)
Mars being poised between two seas within the 3-month period from 1
March to 30 May 2007 was solved as its transition at the Aquarius/
Pisces cusp in the previous thread, where you characteristically made
your blanket denials and negative comments. You cannot explain why
Mars would be in this correct position, the ONLY place in the Zodiac
where it can be said to be "between two seas" in the timespan
delineated by a theory you refuse to accept. This solution relied on
a combination of two separate lines from different verses, there's no
room for metaphor. And I'm probably one of very few NOT violating the
warning of VI.100 - this isn't astrology, it's faith-based. I had
*faith* that Mars being at the Midheaven point at 10:20am EDT would
prove pivotal to the timing of that fateful scenario BEFORE I fully
researched the timeline, which was the reason for the retraction.
While I had articles about the shootings, and heard some reports, I
was not immersed in the details of the story; and when I attempted an
initial search for the timeline, a page on msnbc's site claimed to
have it, but I couldn't find it. I presumed it had been deleted
deliberately. I didn't discuss the timeline with anyone until after
I'd made the initial post, then I searched again, and found the
10:20am chronology was indeed important in the story as being the time
students began reading the email that officially cancelled classes,
which some obviously feel was a move that should have come after the
first shooting incident. I'd heard there was an attack around 9am and
another one, and that they were about two hours apart, so I made a
false presumption based around my faith that 10:20am would be pivotal,
which was proven when the actual details were acquired. No one told
me wrong information, and now the correct timeline has been provided
for clarification.
Why this event would be important enough to merit any prophetic
reference at all of course I can only answer by saying it has been
reported as the worst domestic incident of its kind in terms of
lethality, and that it might prove a temporal stepping stone towards
other events we may all agree are more critical to a wider group. I
have never claimed to know what Nostradamus meant by all of his
writings, nor to have comprehensive knowledge of all future events
myself. I have only promised to conduct a public examination of his
prophecies using my own unique interpretative techniques, and implied
that I have some general awareness of certain aspects of what may loom
in the future from various sources, some of which will not be
revealed. You have expressed how this is not to your liking, and I
have responded that you therefore do not have my permission to read my
posts. The more accurate my theories prove to be, the more
objectionable they will be to you, as the current case demonstrates.
If this incident is so unimportant, get the media to ignore it.
Eagal- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So no Timmy McVeigh then?
Doesn't count?
I'd stated before, X.72 was a wake-up call that after 1999 there would
be a period of greater activity. I've pointed out verses that could
be applied to the Challenger shuttle disaster, the Panama invasion and
other events in recent history pre-1999, but they appear more
isolated, rather than part of an intricate network as these current
fulfillments have manifested.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well just to show us you are on the game put them up.
LB
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| User: "Eagal" |
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| Title: Re: Another Nostradamian Dilemma |
02 May 2007 09:03:45 PM |
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On Apr 23, 11:33 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:27 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:04 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 9:32 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:59 am, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 7:21 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?section=cnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the majority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven point around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb."
Like Nostradamus would be interested in a rather mundane event in the
USA, yes Mensa only!
I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, since it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferable as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 degrees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program viewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Perhaps you should look on the astro more as metaphor as opposed to a
conjunction, they read better that way see (C6Q100)
Mars being poised between two seas within the 3-month period from 1
March to 30 May 2007 was solved as its transition at the Aquarius/
Pisces cusp in the previous thread, where you characteristically made
your blanket denials and negative comments. You cannot explain why
Mars would be in this correct position, the ONLY place in the Zodiac
where it can be said to be "between two seas" in the timespan
delineated by a theory you refuse to accept. This solution relied on
a combination of two separate lines from different verses, there's no
room for metaphor. And I'm probably one of very few NOT violating the
warning of VI.100 - this isn't astrology, it's faith-based. I had
*faith* that Mars being at the Midheaven point at 10:20am EDT would
prove pivotal to the timing of that fateful scenario BEFORE I fully
researched the timeline, which was the reason for the retraction.
While I had articles about the shootings, and heard some reports, I
was not immersed in the details of the story; and when I attempted an
initial search for the timeline, a page on msnbc's site claimed to
have it, but I couldn't find it. I presumed it had been deleted
deliberately. I didn't discuss the timeline with anyone until after
I'd made the initial post, then I searched again, and found the
10:20am chronology was indeed important in the story as being the time
students began reading the email that officially cancelled classes,
which some obviously feel was a move that should have come after the
first shooting incident. I'd heard there was an attack around 9am and
another one, and that they were about two hours apart, so I made a
false presumption based around my faith that 10:20am would be pivotal,
which was proven when the actual details were acquired. No one told
me wrong information, and now the correct timeline has been provided
for clarification.
Why this event would be important enough to merit any prophetic
reference at all of course I can only answer by saying it has been
reported as the worst domestic incident of its kind in terms of
lethality, and that it might prove a temporal stepping stone towards
other events we may all agree are more critical to a wider group. I
have never claimed to know what Nostradamus meant by all of his
writings, nor to have comprehensive knowledge of all future events
myself. I have only promised to conduct a public examination of his
prophecies using my own unique interpretative techniques, and implied
that I have some general awareness of certain aspects of what may loom
in the future from various sources, some of which will not be
revealed. You have expressed how this is not to your liking, and I
have responded that you therefore do not have my permission to read my
posts. The more accurate my theories prove to be, the more
objectionable they will be to you, as the current case demonstrates.
If this incident is so unimportant, get the media to ignore it.
Eagal- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So no Timmy McVeigh then?
Doesn't count?
I'd stated before, X.72 was a wake-up call that after 1999 there would
be a period of greater activity. I've pointed out verses that could
be applied to the Challenger shuttle disaster, the Panama invasion and
other events in recent history pre-1999, but they appear more
isolated, rather than part of an intricate network as these current
fulfillments have manifested.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well just to show us you are on the game put them up.
LB- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
9 April 2000
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/63637aedcdd9552e?hl=en&
<< "New" can mean experimental or scientific, so in I.81 nine do not
have
to be set apart: that quatrain was apparently about the Challenger
space
shuttle disaster, in which the pod containing the crew ("D'humain
troupeau neuf" - "Team for human science," seven not nine in number)
jetissoned off from the exploding main craft soon after launch - the
company involved, Morton Thiokol, was the obvious cryptic reference
of
the Greek letters in the final line, "Kappa, Thita, Lambda"... >>
Later I discovered primary construction of the Challenger shuttle was
completed in 1981, matching the quatrain enumeration of I.81.
5 Dec 2000
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/1487026c27cace53?hl=en&
<< Le faux message par election feinte,
Courir par vrben rompue pache arrete;
Voix achete, de sang chapelle teine,
Et a un autre l'empire contracte.
The false message about election sham,
To run through the city pact broken stopped;
Purchased voice, with blood chapel stained,
And to another the empire contracted.
This could deal exclusively with the 1989 situation regarding the
Panama
invasion by the US after announcing the election wherein Noriega
defeated Endara was illegal. There was massive bombing of
communities
were Noriega had support. Noriega, hoping for sanctuary, secluded
himself in a church, where US forces blasted rock music at him as
inducement to vacate (the "purchased voice"?) - and in the end,
Endara
was installed, who was more submissive to US interests just before
the
Panama Canal control was going to revert to the Panamian government.
There are those two examples, both discussed in 2000. My technique
makes it possible for many prior events to be noticed as predicted
through obscure means, however it is neither essential nor possible
for *every* major event to be prophesied. Since my focus has been
determining the timing and nature of events in the near future,
cataloguing fulfillments from the past is not a priority.
Eagal
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| User: "Eagal" |
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| Title: Re: Another Nostradamian Dilemma |
02 May 2007 10:05:54 PM |
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So no Timmy McVeigh then?
Doesn't count?
I'd stated before, X.72 was a wake-up call that after 1999 there would
be a period of greater activity. I've pointed out verses that could
be applied to the Challenger shuttle disaster, the Panama invasion and
other events in recent history pre-1999, but they appear more
isolated, rather than part of an intricate network as these current
fulfillments have manifested.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well just to show us you are on the game put them up.
LB- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
9 April 2000http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg=
/63637ae...
<< "New" can mean experimental or scientific, so in I.81 nine do not
have
to be set apart: that quatrain was apparently about the Challenger
space
shuttle disaster, in which the pod containing the crew ("D'humain
troupeau neuf" - "Team for human science," seven not nine in number)
jetissoned off from the exploding main craft soon after launch - the
company involved, Morton Thiokol, was the obvious cryptic
read more =BB- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -...
The subject of relating the 1986 Challenger shuttle launch disaster to
I=2E81 was notably revisited in 2003:
6 Feb 2003
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/575b230d85c5f=
da9?hl=3Den&
*
Troop for human science will be set apart,
From judgement and counsel separated far away:
Their fate will be decided as they depart,
Kappa, Theta, Lambda, dead, banished, astray.
I am taking "troupeau neuf" as an idiomatic phrase connoting
"experimental team"--a similar approach was taken for the "bande
nouvelle" in IV.35--instead of "humain troupeau" for "human flock":
this leaves the opening "D'humain" to be re-evaluated, using the
flexible article "de" (it can mean "from" or "for," as well as other
English articles which seem more concrete in meaning than their
French
counterparts). Use of the word "humain" is itself peculiar, because
all the prophecies obviously concern humanity. Anyway, space flight
clearly would separate the participants "from the human flock," which
in the case of Challenger would simply mean Nostradamus had erred in
enumerating the flight crew (nine instead of seven). But the
separation is overtly stated in line 2, rendering such a notion
actually redundant: "judgement and counsel" could represent in this
case (yes, to evaluate potential fulfillment one must overlay the
historical facts upon the written prophecy) Mission Control, which
monitors many more factors than the crew and advises them upon
critical matters.
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On May 3, 12:03 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 11:33 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:27 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:04 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 9:32 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:59 am, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 7:21 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On Apr 23, 6:42 am, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
Correction regarding the synchronization of the Virginia =
Tech
shootings and Mars at Midheaven position: as seen on this=
page
detailing the timeline of the shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/timeline.text/index.html?=
section=3Dcnn...
After the second shooting event, which resulted in the ma=
jority of the
fatalities, an email was sent cancelling classes at 10:16=
am, which
coincided extremely closely with Mars at the Midheaven po=
int around
10:20am EDT.
Eagal
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fu=
lfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamu=
s/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between tw=
o seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet s=
hould easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be e=
ntering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by tw=
o lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said=
to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas=
, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering =
that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own=
.. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with =
May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days aft=
er Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime ve=
rtical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the t=
wo gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of bl=
ood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismae=
l Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents s=
igned as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Is=
male" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a =
violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme =
double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (captu=
re of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but i=
ts timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will a=
lso occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in=
VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77=
, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested reg=
arding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look =
at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
Why bother with trivial gossip?
The cancellation of classes coinciding with Mars at Midheaven=
for that
location is not "gossip," it is *fact*!
You have not a CLUE, you are as Dumb
as Hogue et al.
Someone who doesn't know the difference between gossip & fact
shouldn't be calling anybody else "Dumb."
Like Nostradamus would be interested in a rather mundane event =
in the
USA, yes Mensa only!
I said there'd be a Mars
influence around April 6 within a three-month period, and ten=
days
from that date there it is as top story in the US headlines. =
I would
never have postulated anything as lurid as this however, sinc=
e it was
an event entirely under human control. My correct conjectures
regarding quakes and other natural disasters are far preferab=
le as
examples. I have noticed that although Mars was nearing 8 de=
grees
Pisces at that critical time, using my astronomical program v=
iewing
from that location Mars still appeared instead in Aquarius.
Perhaps you should look on the astro more as metaphor as oppose=
d to a
conjunction, they read better that way see (C6Q100)
Mars being poised between two seas within the 3-month period from=
1
March to 30 May 2007 was solved as its transition at the Aquarius/
Pisces cusp in the previous thread, where you characteristically =
made
your blanket denials and negative comments. You cannot explain w=
hy
Mars would be in this correct position, the ONLY place in the Zod=
iac
where it can be said to be "between two seas" in the timespan
delineated by a theory you refuse to accept. This solution relie=
d on
a combination of two separate lines from different verses, there'=
s no
room for metaphor. And I'm probably one of very few NOT violatin=
g the
warning of VI.100 - this isn't astrology, it's faith-based. I had
*faith* that Mars being at the Midheaven point at 10:20am EDT wou=
ld
prove pivotal to the timing of that fateful scenario BEFORE I ful=
ly
researched the timeline, which was the reason for the retraction.
While I had articles about the shootings, and heard some reports,=
I
was not immersed in the details of the story; and when I attempte=
d an
initial search for the timeline, a page on msnbc's site claimed to
have it, but I couldn't find it. I presumed it had been deleted
deliberately. I didn't discuss the timeline with anyone until af=
ter
I'd made the initial post, then I searched again, and found the
10:20am chronology was indeed important in the story as being the=
time
students began reading the email that officially cancelled classe=
s,
which some obviously feel was a move that should have come after =
the
first shooting incident. I'd heard there was an attack around 9a=
m and
another one, and that they were about two hours apart, so I made a
false presumption based around my faith that 10:20am would be piv=
otal,
which was proven when the actual details were acquired. No one t=
old
me wrong information, and now the correct timeline has been provi=
ded
for clarification.
Why this event would be important enough to merit any prophetic
reference at all of course I can only answer by saying it has been
reported as the worst domestic incident of its kind in terms of
lethality, and that it might prove a temporal stepping stone towa=
rds
other events we may all agree are more critical to a wider group.=
I
have never claimed to know what Nostradamus meant by all of his
writings, nor to have comprehensive knowledge of all future events
myself. I have only promised to conduct a public examination of =
his
prophecies using my own unique interpretative techniques, and imp=
lied
that I have some general awareness of certain aspects of what may=
loom
in the future from various sources, some of which will not be
revealed. You have expressed how this is not to your liking, and=
I
have responded that you therefore do not have my permission to re=
ad my
posts. The more accurate my theories prove to be, the more
objectionable they will be to you, as the current case demonstrat=
es.
If this incident is so unimportant, get the media to ignore it.
Eagal- Hide quoted text -
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So no Timmy McVeigh then?
Doesn't count?
I'd stated before, X.72 was a wake-up call that after 1999 there would
be a period of greater activity. I've pointed out verses that could
be applied to the Challenger shuttle disaster, the Panama invasion and
other events in recent history pre-1999, but they appear more
isolated, rather than part of an intricate network as these current
fulfillments have manifested.- Hide quoted text -
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Well just to show us you are on the game put them up.
LB- Hide quoted text -
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9 April 2000http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg=
/63637ae...
<< "New" can mean experimental or scientific, so in I.81 nine do not
have
to be set apart: that quatrain was apparently about the Challenger
space
shuttle disaster, in which the pod containing the crew ("D'humain
troupeau neuf" - "Team for human science," seven not nine in number)
jetissoned off from the exploding main craft soon after launch - the
company involved, Morton Thiokol, was the obvious cryptic reference
of
the Greek letters in the final line, "Kappa, Thita, Lambda"... >>
Later I discovered primary construction of the Challenger shuttle was
completed in 1981, matching the quatrain enumeration of I.81.
So just objectively taking the Q at it's word:
C I-Q81 D'humain troupeau neuf seront mis a part
De iugement et conseil separ=E9s:
Leur sort sera diuise en depart.
Kappa, Thita, Lambda mors, bannis esgar=E9s.
From the human flock nine shall be set apart From judgment and counsel
deprived; Their fate shall be devised/published on [their] departure--
Kappa, theta, lamda- dead, banished, scattered.
Line 3. Perhaps 'diuisd' (revealed), deuis=E9 (planned). Line 4. The
Greek letters are of doubtful meaning. It should be noted that they
are the consonants of 'katholikos.'
The general theme is arrest, unfair trial, destruction of Calvinists
(the flock) perhaps by the Catholic power.
I agree with his theme but not necessarily the Calvinists, but
considering Nostradamus was quite precise in his choice of verbiage 7
means 7 and nine means nine, but the Nine are probably the instigators
of some war.
5 Dec 2000http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/1=
487026...
<< Le faux message par election feinte,
Courir par vrben rompue pache arrete;
Voix achete, de sang chapelle teine,
Et a un autre l'empire contracte.
The false message about election sham,
To run through the city pact broken stopped;
Purchased voice, with blood chapel stained,
And to another the empire contracted.
This could deal exclusively with the 1989 situation regarding the
Panama
invasion by the US after announcing the election wherein Noriega
defeated Endara was illegal. There was massive bombing of
communities
were Noriega had support. Noriega, hoping for sanctuary, secluded
himself in a church, where US forces blasted rock music at him as
inducement to vacate (the "purchased voice"?) - and in the end,
Endara
was installed, who was more submissive to US interests just before
the
Panama Canal control was going to revert to the Panamian government.
Assuming Nostradamus was even vaguely interested in petty politics in
the USA.Which I doubt very much.
For the record have not seen one 20th century USA Q with any
credibility.
C8Q20. The false message about the sham election
to run through the city the peace broken stopped;
voice bought, chapel stained with blood,
And to another one the empire contracted.
XX. Le faux messaige par election fainte
Courir par vrban 7 rompu pache 8 arreste,
Voix acheptees, de sang chappelle tainte,
Et =E0 un autre l'empire contracte 9.
7 vrban =3D Latin per urban through the city
8 pache =3D Latin pache pact peace agreement
9 contracte =3D variant arrete contracte
The election here appears to concern a Holy Roman Emporer Voice bought
suggests the bribery which usually characterized elections The false
election is apparently to be followed by a brief civil war concluded
with the of the "Pretender" not bad from 1960 eh?
LB
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| Title: Re: Another Nostradamian Dilemma |
22 Apr 2007 02:21:41 PM |
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The follow-up would pursue my 13 March comments from the prior thread:
<< The page linked below shows how the world experienced the 3 March
2007
total lunar eclipse: notice that in both the Alabama/Georgia area in
the US (where a storm preceded it) and the Sumatra region (where a
powerful quake followed it), the eclipse was umbral to virtually the
same degree (between lines marked U2 and U3).
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/OH/image1/LE2007Mar03-Fig1.GIF
Rather than concluding this celestial event could not be what was
intended by the port of Blaye in VI.60, the exact opposite should be
presumed: the connection between this lunar eclipse and that location
should be considered *established*, so that other mentions of that
location could be transposed into its date.
One such potential case is II.61 line 1, mentioning the Gironde,
where
the port of Blaye is situated, as well as la Rochelle, which also
figured in VI.60: line 2 has Mars at the point of an arrow, which may
confirm my recent theory in this thread about the Mars reaching the
Aquarius-Pisces cusp. And V.34 has a fleet entering the Gironde
through Blois, which should instead by Blaye; VI.79 follows mention
of
the Gironde with a line about a promontory being erected, but unlike
I.
77's between two seas, this one is beyond mountains. Blaye itself
appears in IX.38, again with la Rochelle "and the English" - line 2
speaks of the great "Aemathien," which I had considered long ago an
anagram for "Anathema" as a codeword for bin Laden. None of this
affects the determination that 6 April 2007 should prove a critical
period as described, but if events unfold as anticipated some of
these
quatrains should be revisited for further analysis using new data for
illumination. >>
So II.61 seems related, but the second portion yet unfulfilled appears
to outline the military siege of a fortressed enclosure (the "green
zone" implications of this should be quite obvious). As for VI.79,
the "beyond mountains" comment could regard powerful quakes which
occurred without great lethality between the Sumatran quake in early
March and the mid-April Virginia Tech shootings, but this verse is
somewhat convoluted: the final line portends flooding after some
conflict (not necessarily in the same location). The first half of IX.
38 just seems to confirm the connection with I.77 concerning OBL. So
the apparently domestic violence attributed to Mars arrived ten days
after the notable 6 April cusp condition, but VIII.85 allowed for a
three-month period from 1 March to 30 May 2007, given my entirely
unique application developed in "Some Events Likely Fulfilled."
Eagal
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"Here is the mind which has wisdom: the seven heads are seven
mountains, on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings: five
have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he
comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not,
is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to
perdition. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have
received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as
kings with the beast. These are of one mind, and they will give their
power and authority to the beast." (Apoc. 17:9-13)
"The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be
different from all other kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth,
trample it, and break it in pieces. The ten horns are ten kings who
shall arise from this kingdom." (Daniel 7:23,24)
"One of the horrible temporal Kings will be told by his adherents, as
the ultimate in praise, that he has shed more of human blood of
Innocent Ecclesiastics than anyone else could have spilled of wine:
this King will commit incredible crimes against the Church. Human
blood will flow in the public streets and temples, like water after an
impetuous rain, coloring the nearby rivers red with blood. The ocean
itself will be reddened by another naval battle, such that one king
will say to another, 'Naval battles have caused the sea to
blush.'" (Epistle paragraph 52)
*
On Apr 21, 11:47 pm, Eagal <cjs...@cnmnetwork.com> wrote:
MARS MAKES ITS
TRAGIC PROMONTORY
In this reposted excerpt from my "Some Events Likely Fulfilled" thread
10 March 2007 --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9fb8e7e...
<< "VIII.85 tells us it is MARS that will be between two seas [of I.
77] at the critical
time. A look at the upcoming movements of the planet should easily
answer the mystery: around 6 April 2007, Mars will be entering Pisces
(a water sign) from Aquarius (which is symbolized by two lines
representing water), so in that period it could be said to be
establishing a promontory between two astrological seas, those watery
constellations." >>
I was focusing on a further event, and not considering that the
promontory of Mars could be a separate event of its own. Having
linked that theory to a three-month period ending with May, it is
entirely likely the Virginia Tech shooting ten days after Mars entered
Pisces was intended: Mars was at the Midheaven prime vertical for that
location on 16 April 2007 at 10:20am EDT, between the two gun attacks
- which could be considered in retrospect as seas of blood, giving the
prophecy a grim double meaning.
The shooter having written on his arm in red ink "Ismael Ax" (also
sending a media package between the killing incidents signed as "A.
Ishmael") is discussed at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18239633/
Mars is the red planet, as well as the male symbol ("Ismale" may have
possibly been written). It also represents warfare, a violent
implication unfortunately consistent with this extreme double domestic
attack.
The event I was extrapolating from this scenario (capture of OBL)
therefore appears even more likely to occur soon, but its timing has
become more nebulous. Perhaps something notable will also occur on
the 30 May 2007 date which ends the period inscribed in VIII.85, and
not necessarily associated with the fulfillment of I.77, but an
element of inevitability appears to have manifested regarding this
conjecture. I may follow up this with a further look at some of the
relevant quatrains examined in the prior thread.
Eagal
http://geocities.com/eagalitarian/nostradamus.html
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