I mean anyone with an IQ higher than a toaster.
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15 Sep 2006 07:33:51 PM |
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eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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15 Sep 2006 08:04:19 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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15 Sep 2006 09:25:53 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983FC2029EEE5rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
There are some very reputable journalists in D.C. reporting today that
Republican Senators are quietly and privately saying that Iraq is lost. We
can't "win". It's clear to them that it's going to be over with before too
long.
I doubt anything will be said publicly before the mid-terms.
What you may well see are Republican lawmakers going to Mr. Bush in the
White House and telling HIM it's time to "cut and run". This would mirror
Barry Goldwater and a few other Republicans going to Nixon in the final
phase of Watergate and telling him it was time to retire to the beach.
Republicans telling Mr. Bush he's failed, to give it up. It'll be
interesting to see what the vocabulary challenged spin doctors will have to
say then. Who will be the first to spot the next propaganda mantra?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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15 Sep 2006 10:40:51 PM |
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John Lemke wrote:
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983FC2029EEE5rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
There are some very reputable journalists in D.C. reporting today that
Republican Senators are quietly and privately saying that Iraq is lost. We
can't "win". It's clear to them that it's going to be over with before too
long.
Then you can jump up and down and cheer with delight because Iraq will
be lost to the terrorists -- but more importantly for you, Bush will go
down in history as having been defeated in Iraq. That being more
important than anything, your attitude is "screw the Iraqi people." You
just don't give a damn that they want their fledgling democracy to
succeed, do you?
The Iraqi View
Polling on the ground.
By Richard Nadler
July 21, 2006
[excerpt] American viewers of network news, and Arabic viewers of
al-Jazeera TV, generally regard Operation Iraqi Freedom as a failure
for various reasons: Iraqis are too sectarian to form a nation; they
reject democracy as an imposition; or the average Iraqi lives a life of
fear due to the deterioration of security since Saddam's fall.
The International Republican Institute's "Survey of Iraqi Public
Opinion," released July 19, 2006, provides a useful reality check to
these assumptions. The survey records that Iraqis overwhelmingly reject
sectarianism and national division; and that they widely support the
government they have elected. Moreover, most Iraqis feel safe in their
own neighborhoods. [end excerpt]
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=MjczZTQxNmViNWRmYTE1NjU2ZDdkYjE1NTVlNTRlN2E=
[quoting] New Poll Finds Iraqis Favor Unity
Overwhelming Majority Oppose the Idea of Segregation
July 19, 2006
Washington, D.C. --A new poll released by the International Republican
Institute (IRI) found Iraqis strongly oppose the idea of segregating
the country. Seventy-eight percent strongly disagree or disagree with
the idea of segregating Iraqis according to religious or ethnic sects.
An overwhelming majority, 89 percent, believe that a unity government
is extremely important to Iraq's future.
Iraqis also indicated support for Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki and
the new government. Fifty-five percent approve of the way Prime
Minister Al-Maliki is handling his job and 58 percent of Iraqis
indicated they are very confident or somewhat confident in the new
government compared to 27 percent who are somewhat unconfident or not
confident. With this new government in place, 41 percent of Iraqis now
feel the country is on the right track, compared to 30 percent in the
last IRI poll (Survey of Iraqi Public Opinion, March 23 - 31, 2006).
Security, infrastructure and economic development are the most pressing
issues facing the country according to respondents. As the new
government begins its work, 51 percent of Iraqis feel security should
be the highest priority for the new government, 33 percent listed it as
the second and third priority. Twenty-three percent responded that
improving Iraq's infrastructure should be the highest priority, with 48
percent listing it second and third. Only seven percent of Iraqis
listed economic development as the highest priority, however, 47
percent listed it as the second and third priority.
More than 2,800 face-to-face interviews were conducted from June 14-24,
2006. Interviews were conducted in all of Iraq's 18 governorates. The
margin of error is plus or minus three percent. [end quote]
http://www.iri.org/07-19-06-IraqPoll.asp
Or see charts and figures from the poll on page 44 of this pdf:
http://www.brookings.edu/fp/saban/iraq/index20060731.pdf
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20 Sep 2006 08:50:19 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You originally said the poll was conducted by Iraqis. Are they
'Republican' Iraqis, or do you need to back-peddle a bit here ?
http://www.iri.org/mena/iraq/2006-07-19-IraqPoll.asp
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 19, 2006
Washington, D.C. --A new poll released by the International
Republican Institute (IRI) found Iraqis strongly oppose the
idea of segregating the country.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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20 Sep 2006 10:37:12 PM |
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Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You originally said the poll was conducted by Iraqis. Are they
'Republican' Iraqis, or do you need to back-peddle a bit here ?
I quoted the methodology for you earlier in the thread, and it says the
poll was conducted by an Iraqi polling firm. But if you're concerned
about the source, maybe you missed that the poll was also picked up by
the Brookings Institute. I provided that link as well.
http://www.iri.org/mena/iraq/2006-07-19-IraqPoll.asp
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 19, 2006
Washington, D.C. --A new poll released by the International
Republican Institute (IRI) found Iraqis strongly oppose the
idea of segregating the country.
And, as I have also pointed out, this poll lines up with previous polls
conducted for the BBC, ABC, and other news organizations. Here, read
this:
BBC: Monday, 12 December 2005
Survey finds optimism in new Iraq
The poll found Iraqis think their lives will improve in the coming year
[excerpt] An opinion poll suggests Iraqis are generally optimistic
about their lives, in spite of the violence that has plagued Iraq since
the US-led invasion.
But the survey, carried out for the BBC and other media, found security
fears still dominate most Iraqis' thoughts.
Their priority for the coming year would be the restoration of security
and the withdrawal of foreign troops.
A majority of the 1,700 people questioned wanted a united Iraq with a
strong central government. [end excerpt]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4514414.stm
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| User: "Perseid" |
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22 Sep 2006 08:40:07 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You originally said the poll was conducted by Iraqis. Are they
'Republican' Iraqis, or do you need to back-peddle a bit here ?
I quoted the methodology for you earlier in the thread, and it says the
poll was conducted by an Iraqi polling firm. But if you're concerned
about the source, maybe you missed that the poll was also picked up by
the Brookings Institute. I provided that link as well.
Funny how these Republican organizations are finding so many
positives in Iraq, but the other 99% of the earth's population
sees Iraq as it really is... a complete mess that will remain
that way for years to come. Ah well, at least we know the
Iraqis won't be producing nuclear bombs any time soon.
http://www.iri.org/mena/iraq/2006-07-19-IraqPoll.asp
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 19, 2006
Washington, D.C. --A new poll released by the International
Republican Institute (IRI) found Iraqis strongly oppose the
idea of segregating the country.
And, as I have also pointed out, this poll lines up with previous polls
conducted for the BBC, ABC, and other news organizations. Here, read
this:
BBC: Monday, 12 December 2005
Survey finds optimism in new Iraq
The poll found Iraqis think their lives will improve in the coming year
[excerpt] An opinion poll suggests Iraqis are generally optimistic
about their lives, in spite of the violence that has plagued Iraq since
the US-led invasion.
But the survey, carried out for the BBC and other media, found security
fears still dominate most Iraqis' thoughts.
Their priority for the coming year would be the restoration of security
and the withdrawal of foreign troops.
A majority of the 1,700 people questioned wanted a united Iraq with a
strong central government. [end excerpt]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4514414.stm
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22 Sep 2006 11:16:52 PM |
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Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You originally said the poll was conducted by Iraqis. Are they
'Republican' Iraqis, or do you need to back-peddle a bit here ?
I quoted the methodology for you earlier in the thread, and it says the
poll was conducted by an Iraqi polling firm. But if you're concerned
about the source, maybe you missed that the poll was also picked up by
the Brookings Institute. I provided that link as well.
Funny how these Republican organizations are finding so many
positives in Iraq, but the other 99% of the earth's population
sees Iraq as it really is... a complete mess that will remain
that way for years to come. Ah well, at least we know the
Iraqis won't be producing nuclear bombs any time soon.
I notice you ignored the BBC poll I posted. You even left it in the
quoted portion below your response, but failed to acknowledge it. Is
there some reason for that? It makes your paragraph above look like the
complete utter spin that it is. I wonder if Lemke will get on you for
spinning? Of course not! Oh, here's the BBC poll one more time. Maybe
you'll feel like being honest and acknowledge it this time.
BBC: Monday, 12 December 2005
Survey finds optimism in new Iraq
The poll found Iraqis think their lives will improve in the coming year
[excerpt] An opinion poll suggests Iraqis are generally optimistic
about their lives, in spite of the violence that has plagued Iraq since
the US-led invasion.
But the survey, carried out for the BBC and other media, found security
fears still dominate most Iraqis' thoughts.
Their priority for the coming year would be the restoration of security
and the withdrawal of foreign troops.
A majority of the 1,700 people questioned wanted a united Iraq with a
strong central government. [end excerpt]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4514414.stm
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24 Sep 2006 10:04:18 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You originally said the poll was conducted by Iraqis. Are they
'Republican' Iraqis, or do you need to back-peddle a bit here ?
I quoted the methodology for you earlier in the thread, and it says
the
poll was conducted by an Iraqi polling firm. But if you're concerned
about the source, maybe you missed that the poll was also picked up
by
the Brookings Institute. I provided that link as well.
Funny how these Republican organizations are finding so many
positives in Iraq, but the other 99% of the earth's population
sees Iraq as it really is... a complete mess that will remain
that way for years to come. Ah well, at least we know the
Iraqis won't be producing nuclear bombs any time soon.
I notice you ignored the BBC poll I posted. You even left it in the
quoted portion below your response, but failed to acknowledge it. Is
there some reason for that?
I generally ignore things that you post when it bears no
resemblance to reality. Bush and his lap-dogs always like
to paint a rosey picture about Iraq, but then General John
Abizaid is asked if we are winning and he says something
like "you can say we're winning if we have unlimited time
and unlimited resources". Perhaps you and the wishful thinkers
at the Brookings Institute know more than General Abizaid
does ??
It makes your paragraph above look like the
complete utter spin that it is. I wonder if Lemke will get on you for
spinning? Of course not! Oh, here's the BBC poll one more time. Maybe
you'll feel like being honest and acknowledge it this time.
BBC: Monday, 12 December 2005
Survey finds optimism in new Iraq
The poll found Iraqis think their lives will improve in the coming year
[excerpt] An opinion poll suggests Iraqis are generally optimistic
about their lives, in spite of the violence that has plagued Iraq since
the US-led invasion.
But the survey, carried out for the BBC and other media, found security
fears still dominate most Iraqis' thoughts.
Their priority for the coming year would be the restoration of security
and the withdrawal of foreign troops.
A majority of the 1,700 people questioned wanted a united Iraq with a
strong central government. [end excerpt]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4514414.stm
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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25 Sep 2006 03:46:16 PM |
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Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
You originally said the poll was conducted by Iraqis. Are they
'Republican' Iraqis, or do you need to back-peddle a bit here ?
I quoted the methodology for you earlier in the thread, and it says
the
poll was conducted by an Iraqi polling firm. But if you're concerned
about the source, maybe you missed that the poll was also picked up
by
the Brookings Institute. I provided that link as well.
Funny how these Republican organizations are finding so many
positives in Iraq, but the other 99% of the earth's population
sees Iraq as it really is... a complete mess that will remain
that way for years to come. Ah well, at least we know the
Iraqis won't be producing nuclear bombs any time soon.
I notice you ignored the BBC poll I posted. You even left it in the
quoted portion below your response, but failed to acknowledge it. Is
there some reason for that?
I generally ignore things that you post when it bears no
resemblance to reality.
Really? So a BBC poll bears no resemblance to reality? Hmm,
interesting. If you notice, I back up most of my arguments with
sources. If you want to ignore those sources, then it is you who is
ignoring reality.
Bush and his lap-dogs always like
to paint a rosey picture about Iraq, but then General John
Abizaid is asked if we are winning and he says something
like "you can say we're winning if we have unlimited time
and unlimited resources". Perhaps you and the wishful thinkers
at the Brookings Institute know more than General Abizaid
does ??
For your information, the Brookings Institute is not a conservative
organization. And neither is the BBC. Sheesh. I thought you were better
informed than this.
It makes your paragraph above look like the
complete utter spin that it is. I wonder if Lemke will get on you for
spinning? Of course not! Oh, here's the BBC poll one more time. Maybe
you'll feel like being honest and acknowledge it this time.
Of course you didn't. To do so would have required honesty, a quality
in which you seem to be lacking.
BBC: Monday, 12 December 2005
Survey finds optimism in new Iraq
The poll found Iraqis think their lives will improve in the coming year
[excerpt] An opinion poll suggests Iraqis are generally optimistic
about their lives, in spite of the violence that has plagued Iraq since
the US-led invasion.
But the survey, carried out for the BBC and other media, found security
fears still dominate most Iraqis' thoughts.
Their priority for the coming year would be the restoration of security
and the withdrawal of foreign troops.
A majority of the 1,700 people questioned wanted a united Iraq with a
strong central government. [end excerpt]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4514414.stm
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16 Sep 2006 06:12:20 AM |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:40:51 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
John Lemke wrote:
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983FC2029EEE5rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
There are some very reputable journalists in D.C. reporting today that
Republican Senators are quietly and privately saying that Iraq is lost. We
can't "win". It's clear to them that it's going to be over with before too
long.
Then you can jump up and down and cheer with delight because Iraq will
be lost to the terrorists -- but more importantly for you, Bush will go
down in history as having been defeated in Iraq. That being more
important than anything, your attitude is "screw the Iraqi people." You
just don't give a damn that they want their fledgling democracy to
succeed, do you?
This is exactly the kind of ridiculous post that makes you looks like an
astroturfer or an idiot, Steven. People admitting that Iraq is lost are
hardly cheering about Iraq being "lost to terrorists". The fact is,
people are very upset precisely because Bush handed Iraq to terrorists as
a fertile recruiting grounds and effective rallying cry for terrorists.
Exactly what he was warned about before he invaded, but Bush didn't care
about the risks to America or Americans.
Woods
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16 Sep 2006 08:10:55 AM |
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Woodswun wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:40:51 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
John Lemke wrote:
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983FC2029EEE5rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
There are some very reputable journalists in D.C. reporting today that
Republican Senators are quietly and privately saying that Iraq is lost. We
can't "win". It's clear to them that it's going to be over with before too
long.
Then you can jump up and down and cheer with delight because Iraq will
be lost to the terrorists -- but more importantly for you, Bush will go
down in history as having been defeated in Iraq. That being more
important than anything, your attitude is "screw the Iraqi people." You
just don't give a damn that they want their fledgling democracy to
succeed, do you?
This is exactly the kind of ridiculous post that makes you looks like an
astroturfer or an idiot, Steven. People admitting that Iraq is lost are
hardly cheering about Iraq being "lost to terrorists".
In the post I responded to, John isn't just admitting Iraq is lost,
he's proclaiming is as a done deal. He has no concern for the Iraqi
people, who voted for their fledgling democracy and are hopeful and
optimistic for its success.
The fact is,
people are very upset precisely because Bush handed Iraq to terrorists
If they're so upset, why aren't they advocating that we prevail rather
than gleefully pushing for a cut & run strategy? A cut & run policy
will most certainly insure Iraq is handed to the terrorists. Do you
have a response to this point?
as a fertile recruiting grounds and effective rallying cry for terrorists.
Exactly what he was warned about before he invaded,
By whom? George Tenet? Richard Gephardt? Jay Rockefeller? John Kerry?
John Edwards? Hillary Clinton? And all the other Democrats who voted to
authorize the removal of Saddam and the threat they all agreed (at the
time) he posed?
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16 Sep 2006 02:24:31 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 06:10:55 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:40:51 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
John Lemke wrote:
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983FC2029EEE5rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
There are some very reputable journalists in D.C. reporting today that
Republican Senators are quietly and privately saying that Iraq is lost. We
can't "win". It's clear to them that it's going to be over with before too
long.
Then you can jump up and down and cheer with delight because Iraq will
be lost to the terrorists -- but more importantly for you, Bush will go
down in history as having been defeated in Iraq. That being more
important than anything, your attitude is "screw the Iraqi people." You
just don't give a damn that they want their fledgling democracy to
succeed, do you?
This is exactly the kind of ridiculous post that makes you looks like an
astroturfer or an idiot, Steven. People admitting that Iraq is lost are
hardly cheering about Iraq being "lost to terrorists".
In the post I responded to, John isn't just admitting Iraq is lost,
he's proclaiming is as a done deal. He has no concern for the Iraqi
people, who voted for their fledgling democracy and are hopeful and
optimistic for its success.
So, you are putting Iraq's needs ahead of the needs of the United States?
The fact is,
people are very upset precisely because Bush handed Iraq to terrorists
If they're so upset, why aren't they advocating that we prevail rather
than gleefully pushing for a cut & run strategy? A cut & run policy will
most certainly insure Iraq is handed to the terrorists. Do you have a
response to this point?
Cut and run is a REPUBLICAN policy - nobody else is mentioning it as a
possibility.
as a fertile recruiting grounds and effective rallying cry for
terrorists. Exactly what he was warned about before he invaded,
By whom? George Tenet? Richard Gephardt? Jay Rockefeller? John Kerry?
John Edwards? Hillary Clinton? And all the other Democrats who voted to
authorize the removal of Saddam and the threat they all agreed (at the
time) he posed?
Intelligence recommended not invading Iraq due to the near certain lack of
stability and the high likelihood of getting any WMDs in Iraq's arsenal
into terrorist hands. This was posted several times here, try going
through the archives.
Woods
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16 Sep 2006 03:31:42 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 06:10:55 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:40:51 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
John Lemke wrote:
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983FC2029EEE5rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
There are some very reputable journalists in D.C. reporting today that
Republican Senators are quietly and privately saying that Iraq is lost. We
can't "win". It's clear to them that it's going to be over with before too
long.
Then you can jump up and down and cheer with delight because Iraq will
be lost to the terrorists -- but more importantly for you, Bush will go
down in history as having been defeated in Iraq. That being more
important than anything, your attitude is "screw the Iraqi people." You
just don't give a damn that they want their fledgling democracy to
succeed, do you?
This is exactly the kind of ridiculous post that makes you looks like an
astroturfer or an idiot, Steven. People admitting that Iraq is lost are
hardly cheering about Iraq being "lost to terrorists".
In the post I responded to, John isn't just admitting Iraq is lost,
he's proclaiming is as a done deal. He has no concern for the Iraqi
people, who voted for their fledgling democracy and are hopeful and
optimistic for its success.
So, you are putting Iraq's needs ahead of the needs of the United States?
No, at this point it is in the best interest of the United States that
the fledgling democracy in Iraq succeed.
The fact is,
people are very upset precisely because Bush handed Iraq to terrorists
If they're so upset, why aren't they advocating that we prevail rather
than gleefully pushing for a cut & run strategy? A cut & run policy will
most certainly insure Iraq is handed to the terrorists. Do you have a
response to this point?
Cut and run is a REPUBLICAN policy - nobody else is mentioning it as a
possibility.
I already asked for your Iraq policy if you had the power to implement
it. What would be your policy?
as a fertile recruiting grounds and effective rallying cry for
terrorists. Exactly what he was warned about before he invaded,
By whom? George Tenet? Richard Gephardt? Jay Rockefeller? John Kerry?
John Edwards? Hillary Clinton? And all the other Democrats who voted to
authorize the removal of Saddam and the threat they all agreed (at the
time) he posed?
Intelligence recommended not invading Iraq
The Clinton appointed CIA director, George "Slam dunk" Tenet said
differently.
due to the near certain lack of
stability and the high likelihood of getting any WMDs in Iraq's arsenal
into terrorist hands. This was posted several times here, try going
through the archives.
No, if you want me to read it, you find it. Isn't that what you've told
me when the situation was reversed? "I'm not going to do your work for
you," Woods said once upon a time.
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:31:42 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 06:10:55 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:40:51 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
John Lemke wrote:
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983FC2029EEE5rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
eric wrote:
Anyone still think American can win in Iraq?
Yes. Unless you get your wish, and the Democrats get a chance to put
their famous cut & run program into effect. Then you'll get your wish,
and the terrorists you so adore will prevail.
It will be more like putting into effect a plan that might
actually work. The Bush fiasco of creating more terrorists
than he kills, and spending our national treasury many generations
into the future, just isn't working. Bush is working hard to
destroy the United States (though he doesn't know it, and
neither do you apparently).
There are some very reputable journalists in D.C. reporting today that
Republican Senators are quietly and privately saying that Iraq is lost. We
can't "win". It's clear to them that it's going to be over with before too
long.
Then you can jump up and down and cheer with delight because Iraq will
be lost to the terrorists -- but more importantly for you, Bush will go
down in history as having been defeated in Iraq. That being more
important than anything, your attitude is "screw the Iraqi people." You
just don't give a damn that they want their fledgling democracy to
succeed, do you?
This is exactly the kind of ridiculous post that makes you looks like an
astroturfer or an idiot, Steven. People admitting that Iraq is lost are
hardly cheering about Iraq being "lost to terrorists".
In the post I responded to, John isn't just admitting Iraq is lost,
he's proclaiming is as a done deal. He has no concern for the Iraqi
people, who voted for their fledgling democracy and are hopeful and
optimistic for its success.
So, you are putting Iraq's needs ahead of the needs of the United States?
No, at this point it is in the best interest of the United States that
the fledgling democracy in Iraq succeed.
Perhaps, but that depends on whether our leadership put so much emphasis
on it that it becomes a goal for the United States to achieve. I will
tell you right now, no country can succeed at a goal which relies solely
on the population of another country. Therefore, while we can encourage
and support Iraqi efforts to attain a democracy, it should in no way be a
focal point of our foreign policy to attain it. Certainly not if, as has
been the case since before the invasion, activity in that direction
depletes resources that have a better chance of success elsewhere.
Routing out bin Laden is a definable, attainable goal - instilling
democracy on a foreign population is not.
The fact is,
people are very upset precisely because Bush handed Iraq to
terrorists
If they're so upset, why aren't they advocating that we prevail
rather than gleefully pushing for a cut & run strategy? A cut & run
policy will most certainly insure Iraq is handed to the terrorists.
Do you have a response to this point?
Cut and run is a REPUBLICAN policy - nobody else is mentioning it as a
possibility.
I already asked for your Iraq policy if you had the power to implement
it. What would be your policy?
How about Have A Plan ... 9_9
as a fertile recruiting grounds and effective rallying cry for
terrorists. Exactly what he was warned about before he invaded,
By whom? George Tenet? Richard Gephardt? Jay Rockefeller? John Kerry?
John Edwards? Hillary Clinton? And all the other Democrats who voted to
authorize the removal of Saddam and the threat they all agreed (at the
time) he posed?
Intelligence recommended not invading Iraq
The Clinton appointed CIA director, George "Slam dunk" Tenet said
differently.
due to the near certain lack of
stability and the high likelihood of getting any WMDs in Iraq's arsenal
into terrorist hands. This was posted several times here, try going
through the archives.
No, if you want me to read it, you find it. Isn't that what you've told
me when the situation was reversed? "I'm not going to do your work for
you," Woods said once upon a time.
Well, then, sucks to be you. I wasn't posting it for the first time, you
should have remembered, but you didn't want to. I was merely being
helpful in letting you know where you could reread it. The rest of us
know what the reports said because we were paying attention.
Woods
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25 Sep 2006 11:19:02 AM |
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Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
WH
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25 Sep 2006 04:39:55 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:19:02 -0700, WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
WH
Brits did in WWII, too (Dresden), but I think that's the only time they've
ever done that.
Woods
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25 Sep 2006 03:58:21 PM |
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WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians? Or an organization based
in Lebanon that purposely targets civilians? How about the terrorist
bombing in Baghdad on Sunday? 35 people dead -- 22 women, 8 children,
and 5 men. How about that? Those are the terrorists so many Bush haters
are rooting for. Way to go, Bush haters!
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26 Sep 2006 07:06:31 AM |
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Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
Or an organization based
in Lebanon that purposely targets civilians?
Haven't the Israeli's got bases in Lebanon? Is that who you mean?
How about the terrorist
bombing in Baghdad on Sunday? 35 people dead -- 22 women, 8 children,
and 5 men. How about that? Those are the terrorists so many Bush haters
are rooting for. Way to go, Bush haters!
"Bush haters" what the *****? What a crybaby you are Douglas. Oh and
would you mind telling me why Iraqi's are killing each other? Who
started all the killing? Who...go on tell me who? Your monkey president
that's who. No matter what way you spin it.
WH
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26 Sep 2006 09:51:24 AM |
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WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
Or an organization based
in Lebanon that purposely targets civilians?
Haven't the Israeli's got bases in Lebanon? Is that who you mean?
No, I was thinking of Hezbollah, who also indiscriminately fired
ballbearing laden rockets into Israel. And by the way, if Israel ever
decided to purposely target civilians, there would be tens of thousands
dead instead of 2000. Of course the 2000 number is tragic, but it was
all started by Hezbollah. As I've asked eric a dozen times, what good
did Hezbollah do for the people of Lebanon by starting that conflict
with Israel?
How about the terrorist
bombing in Baghdad on Sunday? 35 people dead -- 22 women, 8 children,
and 5 men. How about that? Those are the terrorists so many Bush haters
are rooting for. Way to go, Bush haters!
"Bush haters" what the *****? What a crybaby you are Douglas. Oh and
would you mind telling me why Iraqi's are killing each other? Who
started all the killing? Who...go on tell me who? Your monkey president
that's who. No matter what way you spin it.
Bush has Iraqis killing each other? They aren't responsible for their
own actions? You blame the action of a suicide bomber over the weekend
(who murdered 22 women, 8 children, and 5 men) on Bush?
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26 Sep 2006 11:02:20 AM |
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Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
I know what you were thinking you twat...you're that predictable!
Anyway, I have a vision of a helicopter gunship hovering over a main
street in Gaza city and suddenly firing rockets at a car. Actually it
happened loads of times. Indiscriminately killing Palestinian children.
That wasn't Hamas Douglas, that was the IDF. The OCCUPYING scum. Which
branch of Hamas were you thinkin' about may I ask?
Or an organization based
in Lebanon that purposely targets civilians?
Haven't the Israeli's got bases in Lebanon? Is that who you mean?
No, I was thinking of Hezbollah, who also indiscriminately fired
ballbearing laden rockets into Israel. And by the way, if Israel ever
decided to purposely target civilians, there would be tens of thousands
dead instead of 2000.
Oh really but?
Of course the 2000 number is tragic,
Isin't it just...stop being so compassionate you ***** you'll have me
in tears in a minute!
but it was
all started by Hezbollah. As I've asked eric a dozen times, what good
did Hezbollah do for the people of Lebanon by starting that conflict
with Israel?
I know you've asked Eric a dozen times I saw it. I also know why you
never got a reply...because that is a ridiculously stupid question
asked by a twat who answers questions with questions.
How about the terrorist
bombing in Baghdad on Sunday? 35 people dead -- 22 women, 8 children,
and 5 men. How about that? Those are the terrorists so many Bush haters
are rooting for. Way to go, Bush haters!
"Bush haters" what the *****? What a crybaby you are Douglas. Oh and
would you mind telling me why Iraqi's are killing each other? Who
started all the killing? Who...go on tell me who? Your monkey president
that's who. No matter what way you spin it.
Bush has Iraqis killing each other? They aren't responsible for their
own actions? You blame the action of a suicide bomber over the weekend
(who murdered 22 women, 8 children, and 5 men) on Bush?
Yes Bush is responsible, him and his henchmen, and the idiot yanks who
voted for him, for the chaos that is Iraq today. Iraq is now, and has
been for ages, less safe than it was during that big bold dictator's
time, you know the one who got to kill as many of his own people as he
liked as long as he did what he was told by the yankies. The one that
overnight turned into a brutal dictator because he got too big for his
yankie boots! What's 'is name? Yo...Saddam!
WH
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26 Sep 2006 09:14:04 PM |
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WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
I know what you were thinking you twat...you're that predictable!
So no response to my point, just name calling. Talk about predictable.
Anyway, I have a vision of a helicopter gunship hovering over a main
street in Gaza city and suddenly firing rockets at a car.
*A* car, not *cars* indiscriminately. They were targeting a specific
terrorist.
Actually it
happened loads of times. Indiscriminately killing Palestinian children.
That wasn't Hamas Douglas, that was the IDF. The OCCUPYING scum. Which
branch of Hamas were you thinkin' about may I ask?
The branch that was indiscriminately firing ballbearing laden rockets
into Israel. That was after Israel had left Gaza, but of course that
only encouraged the terrorists to attack. That's what terrorists do.
Unfortunately, they perceive any movement toward peace as weakness, and
are further encouraged to attack.
Or an organization based
in Lebanon that purposely targets civilians?
Haven't the Israeli's got bases in Lebanon? Is that who you mean?
No, I was thinking of Hezbollah, who also indiscriminately fired
ballbearing laden rockets into Israel. And by the way, if Israel ever
decided to purposely target civilians, there would be tens of thousands
dead instead of 2000.
Oh really but?
Of course the 2000 number is tragic,
Isin't it just...stop being so compassionate you ***** you'll have me
in tears in a minute!
but it was
all started by Hezbollah. As I've asked eric a dozen times, what good
did Hezbollah do for the people of Lebanon by starting that conflict
with Israel?
I know you've asked Eric a dozen times I saw it. I also know why you
never got a reply...because that is a ridiculously stupid question
asked by a twat who answers questions with questions.
Another nonresponsive response. Obviously you can't answer the question
either.
How about the terrorist
bombing in Baghdad on Sunday? 35 people dead -- 22 women, 8 children,
and 5 men. How about that? Those are the terrorists so many Bush haters
are rooting for. Way to go, Bush haters!
"Bush haters" what the *****? What a crybaby you are Douglas. Oh and
would you mind telling me why Iraqi's are killing each other? Who
started all the killing? Who...go on tell me who? Your monkey president
that's who. No matter what way you spin it.
Bush has Iraqis killing each other? They aren't responsible for their
own actions? You blame the action of a suicide bomber over the weekend
(who murdered 22 women, 8 children, and 5 men) on Bush?
Yes Bush is responsible, him and his henchmen, and the idiot yanks who
voted for him, for the chaos that is Iraq today. Iraq is now, and has
been for ages, less safe than it was during that big bold dictator's
time, you know the one who got to kill as many of his own people as he
liked as long as he did what he was told by the yankies. The one that
overnight turned into a brutal dictator because he got too big for his
yankie boots! What's 'is name? Yo...Saddam!
Okay, so you ARE saying the terrorists are NOT responsible for their
own actions. Just so we're clear on that.
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27 Sep 2006 11:03:26 AM |
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Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
I know what you were thinking you twat...you're that predictable!
So no response to my point, just name calling. Talk about predictable.
What point? All you do is dish out the same old ***** time after
time.
Anyway, I have a vision of a helicopter gunship hovering over a main
street in Gaza city and suddenly firing rockets at a car.
*A* car, not *cars* indiscriminately. They were targeting a specific
terrorist.
Just an example Douglas. They have shot rockets into buildings, at
people on busy streets, at cars on busy streets etc. Loads of people
have been killed during the Israeli's summary execution tactics...not
allowed under international law by the way.
Actually it
happened loads of times. Indiscriminately killing Palestinian children.
That wasn't Hamas Douglas, that was the IDF. The OCCUPYING scum. Which
branch of Hamas were you thinkin' about may I ask?
The branch that was indiscriminately firing ballbearing laden rockets
into Israel. That was after Israel had left Gaza, but of course that
only encouraged the terrorists to attack. That's what terrorists do.
Unfortunately, they perceive any movement toward peace as weakness, and
are further encouraged to attack.
Israeli bollocks! You are easily led aren't you Douglas. Try reading
something other than worldNUTdaily sometime, and you might try to get
your opinions from places other than foxnews and billoreilly too. Might
broaden your warped mind a bit.
Or an organization based
in Lebanon that purposely targets civilians?
Haven't the Israeli's got bases in Lebanon? Is that who you mean?
No, I was thinking of Hezbollah, who also indiscriminately fired
ballbearing laden rockets into Israel. And by the way, if Israel ever
decided to purposely target civilians, there would be tens of thousands
dead instead of 2000.
Oh really but?
Of course the 2000 number is tragic,
Isin't it just...stop being so compassionate you ***** you'll have me
in tears in a minute!
but it was
all started by Hezbollah. As I've asked eric a dozen times, what good
did Hezbollah do for the people of Lebanon by starting that conflict
with Israel?
I know you've asked Eric a dozen times I saw it. I also know why you
never got a reply...because that is a ridiculously stupid question
asked by a twat who answers questions with questions.
Another nonresponsive response. Obviously you can't answer the question
either.
What question? I told you before, when you threw your little attempt at
being funny at me. Hezbollah didn't start that conflict "for" the
people of Lebannon as you're (childishly) suggesting. Did you hear that
on foxnews I wonder?
How about the terrorist
bombing in Baghdad on Sunday? 35 people dead -- 22 women, 8 children,
and 5 men. How about that? Those are the terrorists so many Bush haters
are rooting for. Way to go, Bush haters!
"Bush haters" what the *****? What a crybaby you are Douglas. Oh and
would you mind telling me why Iraqi's are killing each other? Who
started all the killing? Who...go on tell me who? Your monkey president
that's who. No matter what way you spin it.
Bush has Iraqis killing each other? They aren't responsible for their
own actions? You blame the action of a suicide bomber over the weekend
(who murdered 22 women, 8 children, and 5 men) on Bush?
Yes Bush is responsible, him and his henchmen, and the idiot yanks who
voted for him, for the chaos that is Iraq today. Iraq is now, and has
been for ages, less safe than it was during that big bold dictator's
time, you know the one who got to kill as many of his own people as he
liked as long as he did what he was told by the yankies. The one that
overnight turned into a brutal dictator because he got too big for his
yankie boots! What's 'is name? Yo...Saddam!
Okay, so you ARE saying the terrorists are NOT responsible for their
own actions. Just so we're clear on that.
Well knowing you as much as I do I'm not surprised that you're clear on
that despite the fact that I didn't say that. You're really good at
pantyboyism aren't you Douggie? It says one thing on the page in front
of you but it just has to mean what you want it to mean.
You narrow minded brain washed Americans make me sick, thank God there
are those who have thoughts of their own!
WH
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| Title: Re: Bush Working to Destroy the United States |
27 Sep 2006 08:13:11 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:03:26 -0700, WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
I know what you were thinking you twat...you're that predictable!
So no response to my point, just name calling. Talk about predictable.
What point? All you do is dish out the same old ***** time after
time.
Anyway, I have a vision of a helicopter gunship hovering over a main
street in Gaza city and suddenly firing rockets at a car.
*A* car, not *cars* indiscriminately. They were targeting a specific
terrorist.
Just an example Douglas. They have shot rockets into buildings, at
people on busy streets, at cars on busy streets etc. Loads of people
have been killed during the Israeli's summary execution tactics...not
allowed under international law by the way.
Let's not forget machine gunning down little kids (~ 10 yrs old) throwing
rocks, from a sufficient distance that can't possibly reach the tanks.
(Granted, kids shouldn't be out throwing rocks at tanks, but if you're
going to be complaining about civilians being killed, this is kind of "up
there" in Bad Stuff, too).
Woods
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Working to Destroy the United States |
27 Sep 2006 11:20:20 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:03:26 -0700, WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
I know what you were thinking you twat...you're that predictable!
So no response to my point, just name calling. Talk about predictable.
What point? All you do is dish out the same old ***** time after
time.
Anyway, I have a vision of a helicopter gunship hovering over a main
street in Gaza city and suddenly firing rockets at a car.
*A* car, not *cars* indiscriminately. They were targeting a specific
terrorist.
Just an example Douglas. They have shot rockets into buildings, at
people on busy streets, at cars on busy streets etc. Loads of people
have been killed during the Israeli's summary execution tactics...not
allowed under international law by the way.
Let's not forget machine gunning down little kids (~ 10 yrs old) throwing
rocks, from a sufficient distance that can't possibly reach the tanks.
Please show your sources for that information, including how many kids
~ 10 yrs old were machine gunned down. I'd really like to know, thanks.
(Granted, kids shouldn't be out throwing rocks at tanks, but if you're
going to be complaining about civilians being killed, this is kind of "up
there" in Bad Stuff, too).
Absolutely. Please pull up those sources.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Working to Destroy the United States |
28 Sep 2006 08:36:56 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:20:20 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:03:26 -0700, WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
I know what you were thinking you twat...you're that predictable!
So no response to my point, just name calling. Talk about predictable.
What point? All you do is dish out the same old ***** time after
time.
Anyway, I have a vision of a helicopter gunship hovering over a main
street in Gaza city and suddenly firing rockets at a car.
*A* car, not *cars* indiscriminately. They were targeting a specific
terrorist.
Just an example Douglas. They have shot rockets into buildings, at
people on busy streets, at cars on busy streets etc. Loads of people
have been killed during the Israeli's summary execution tactics...not
allowed under international law by the way.
Let's not forget machine gunning down little kids (~ 10 yrs old) throwing
rocks, from a sufficient distance that can't possibly reach the tanks.
Please show your sources for that information, including how many kids
~ 10 yrs old were machine gunned down. I'd really like to know, thanks.
Having a memory lapse? We had a huge discussion on both that and the tank
running over a girl named Rachel. At different times, but they were
debated here.
Woods
(Granted, kids shouldn't be out throwing rocks at tanks, but if you're
going to be complaining about civilians being killed, this is kind of
"up there" in Bad Stuff, too).
Absolutely. Please pull up those sources.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Working to Destroy the United States |
27 Sep 2006 11:56:53 AM |
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WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
WH wrote:
Steven Douglas skrev:
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
The 'polls' you're referencing here are highly suspect Stephen.
Is that your qualified opinion, Randolph?
People in Iraq are voting with their feet, and what they're
doing is abducting, torturing, and killing members of the
rival religious sect.
You're referring to a relatively small group of terrorists who are
causing all the problems.
You WISH there were terrorists in Iraq just so you can say
you were right.
What do you call monsters who purposely *target* innocent civilians?
Yanks springs to mind directly...hmmm...Israeli's also springs to
mind....dobedobedooo...ehm can't think of any more right now but I'll
keep it in mind and get back to you if I come up with any new
ones...m'kay?
Sure, as soon as your intellectual honesty returns to you (assuming you
ever had it to begin with). You can't think of a Palestinian
organization that purposely targets civilians?
Nope! Can you? Who are they and who are the "civilians" they target?
I was thinking of Hamas, who were indiscriminately firing ballbearing
laden rockets into Israel for months.
I know what you were thinking you twat...you're that predictable!
So no response to my point, just name calling. Talk about predictable.
What point?
That Hamas was firing ball bearing laden rockets indiscriminately into
Israel for months after Israel left Gaza. I'm sure you can imagine what
the ball bearings are for? Anyone who is not caught in the immediate
explosion of the rocket might be hit by flying ball bearings. The ball
bearings are purely intended to maim as many innocent civilians as
possible.
All you do is dish out the same old ***** time after time.
And all you do is say all I do is dish out the ... blah blah blah ...
the fact is, WH, all YOU do is dish out the same ***** YOU always
dish out.
Anyway, I have a vision of a helicopter gunship hovering over a main
street in Gaza city and suddenly firing rockets at a car.
*A* car, not *cars* indiscriminately. They were targeting a specific
terrorist.
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