APNCL#0140 - About... quatrain X-86



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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "Claude Latremouille"
Date: 17 Jan 2008 01:23:17 PM
Object: APNCL#0140 - About... quatrain X-86
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Ten years ago, the debate over the presence (or absence) of a
poetry made up of cryptic anagrams led to a literary artform
called... avoidance. A question would be asked and the person or
persons who would know the answer to the question would decline
to answer it, as answering it would demonstrate their recognition
of the presence of an enciphered text, something they did not
want to do.
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This snipping of embarrassing questions led to literary...
sniping! ;-)
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A sample follows:
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Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
From:

(Claude Latremouille)
Subject: Jan 31 Artful Snipping
Message-ID: <Eno0DA.BnG.0.sheppard@torfree.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 20:17:33 GMT

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Since the practice of denying the presence of cryptic anagrams in
Nostradamus' poetry has now taken a sometimes artful form, it may
be time to re-post some of the items which never receive any
answer from those specializing in such a denial.
Sometimes the original posts are in French, so the re-posts shall
be in French.
ORIGINAL POST:

Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
From:

(Claude Latremouille)
Subject: Jan 30 à Jean
Message-ID: <EnM97A.M9M.0.queen@torfree.net>
Lines: 130
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:33:10 GMT

[ snipped ]

Claude Latremouille wrote:

An example of cryptic anagrams using X-86 [1568]:

Original quatrain X-86 from the 1568 edition:

Comme vn gryphon viendra le roy d'Europe
Accompaigné de ceux d'Aquilon,
De rouges & blancz conduira grand troppe
Et yront contre le roy de Babilon.

And its version in prose, decrypted by Claude Latrémouille:

Vn Tyran invade pour rien le Royaume de
Quoueit, l'Amy d'Occident en Paix,
Puis le Grand O N U tentera d'occire ce Saddam
Et la Bombe tuera trop d'Innocens.

[ original post snipped to the item left unanswered by Jean ]
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Et vous remarquerez que mes détracteurs n'ont pas encore osé
répondre à la question : Pourquoi Nostradamus a-t-il écrit au
dernier vers

Et yront contre le roy de Babilon.

et non pas

Et iront contre le roy de Babylon.

Nostradamus voulait encore une fois montrer qu'il a recours aux
anagrammes, les adversaires de cette idée préférant garder le
silence plutôt que d'admettre que l'interversion des deux lettres
(sans effet sur l'anagramme du quatrième vers) ne permet aucune
autre explication.
Claude Latrémouille
30 janvier 1998
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C L A U D E L A T R E M O U I L L E
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So, neither Jean nor Peter, who both profess to open-mindedness,
have responded to that part of the post. As they appear to be the
only contributors to a.p.n. having a sufficient knowledge of
French and of Nostradamus to reply to the original question, it
is re-posted here for their own benefit.
And, of course, for the benefit of all who can read it.
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Claude Latrémouille % -- "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' -- %
Le 31 janvier 1998- % cryptic anagrams in them dang texts, - %
APNCL#0140 -------- % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
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