Once upon a time, intelligent questions were being asked in this
NewsGroup. One of the best questioners was... our late Helen, a
then Texan grandmother who, although unable to speak French, was
able to produce one of the best cryptic anagrams IN FRENCH ever
produced here.
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This is a slightly revised article originally posted as:
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Subject: About cryptic anagrams
Message-ID: <FMsou7.5sy.0.queen@torfree.net>
Keywords: Nostradamus, Anagrams
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:32:31 GMT
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On Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:35:00 -0500,
JHowie@nospammail.cyberramp.net wrote about what
ac553@torfree.net (Claude Latremouille) wrote,
a post to which I replied in:
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Subject: Re: Anagram for MICHELNOSTRADAMUS
Message-ID: <ErExwM.Gq6.0.queen@torfree.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:00:21 GMT
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For the newbies of this NewsGroup, here is a condensed version of
that post, in a questions and answers format:
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: I have one question. You said that the only way you can
: find cryptic anagrams is to know what you are looking for.
To be a little more precise: the only way to find a cryptic
anagram is to suspect what is hidden in it. You may not know
exactly what is there, but you need to have a general idea as
to the subject-matter of what is hidden in it.
: If that is true (and I
: now believe that it is), how did you know you had found the
: right date for the atomic explosion over Paris the first
: time you found it?
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: Helen
As I indicated in more details yesterday in my third posting
of the answer to your question (see "About THAT date..."), a
future date can only be found in many quatrains, a process
allowing for cross-referencing the anagrams.
The short answer to your question: there was never a 'first
time' in finding 'the right date'. The right date was found
only once, on Nostradamus' birthday in 1994.
As you know, there are many possibilites for different dates
in an anagram. When I started, I did not know about the date
of Sunday, August 13, 2017, at 3:53 a.m., as I had multiple
possibilities per quatrain.
But after having decrypted a number of quatrains all giving
the date of the destruction of Paris, the multiple anagrams
forced me to focus on the correct date.
Example: I can have the choice between trois (3), treize (13),
or trente (30). When placing each of these possibilities in
all decrypted quatrains giving a date, only the correct one
fits them all.
Same thing with August. The choice between Auril (April) and
Aoust (August) is easily decided if you have an anagram
speaking of a beautiful Summer day. April is not Summer,
therefore...
Year 2017 was more tricky to find. That is where eclipses came
in handy. In one quatrain, you have the destruction of Paris
occurring AFTER an eclipse. In another quatrain, you have the
destruction of Paris occurring BEFORE an eclipse. (Make up
your mind, Nostradamus!)
If you are as astronomically minded as I am, you then realize
that the date you are looking for occurs BETWEEN two eclipses,
which is the case of August 13, 2017, the Lunar eclipse of
August 7 and the total Solar eclipse of August 21 being the
target period, as the last time such an eclipse occurs in
August is... August 11, 1999, hence the importance for
Nostradamus of that last total eclipse of the Sun before the
Paris Holocaust: its band of totality describes an arc from
the North-West, same direction (roughly speaking) as the
I.C.B.M. destroying Paris 18 years later.
Another feature of the 1999 eclipse is that it nearly misses
Paris, its band of totality passing just North of the French
capital. So, in the anagrams of the quatrain describing that
eclipse, Nostradamus dutifully indicates that the eclipse will
be total over the town of Verdun, site of one of the bloodiest
battles of WWI.
But, compared to the 3 millions killed in Paris in 2017,
Verdun was just peanuts... and August 11, 1999? A day without
glory, says Nostradamus, as his grave prophecy about the US
will then be laughed at.
What else is new? :-(
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[ my snip ]
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So what do you think is going to happen on August 11, 1999?
Something to do with an eclipse, obviously, but what?
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Is my English as bad as my original anagram? :-) I thought I had
explained it. The August 11, 1999, total eclipse of the Sun
proves that Nostradamus was a seer, shows that he used cryptic
anagrams in his poetry, its band of totality follows roughly the
direction of the I.C.B.M. which will target Paris 18 years later,
the totality nearly misses the French capital... why do you want
something else, Helen?
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And if you absolutely want something else, you might consider
reading my recent April posts about it. I think they are in the
thread "Re: ASTEROID WILL STRIKE..."
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Okay, another question as I am really unclear on how you got
started on these anagrams.
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Not surprizing, given that I have never explained it completely
in a.p.n. (it takes about 100 pages of my book). But I have
explained the basis of it many times in a number of posts, which
I better re-post, as they obviously have escaped your attention,
given your comment above. (See "About cryptic anagrams" posted in
early March.)
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Which quatrain did you decode first and how did you
know what to look for?
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In the beginning, I did not decrypt any quatrain at all, as I did
not know that these quatrains contained four (4) line-based
anagrams. In the beginning, I first played with word-based
anagrams, then with isolated one-line anagrams, then with the
entire quatrain, using four (4) line-based anagrams, then with
the entire prophecy.
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Did the anagram talk about the same subject as the original
quatrain?
Helen
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The first anagram I found did indeed refer to what the
interpretation of that very line of poetry pointed to: that is
why I found it. I would never have been able to find it
otherwise.
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One October day of 1993 I got an idea: if Nostradamus had wanted
to hide in anagrams the name of the then French President, he
would need in so doing a line of poetry which would contain many
Ts and many Rs. So, I asked myself the question: do I know a line
of poetry which already has been understood to refer to François
Mitterrand and which does contain many Ts and many Rs?
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And a few seconds later, I remembered one well known line which
did indeed contain many Ts and many Rs and which did obscurely
refer to the May 10, 1981, election of President Mitterrand...
three days before the attempt on the life of Pope John Paul II
which the quatrain referred to.
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So, I got my Scrabble(R) letters out and... found what I was
looking for... which was wrong, of course, as I had then not
realized that the fourth line in question was the end of a four-
line sentence in good 16th Century French prose, something which
took me about nine months to figure out.
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After the fact, I realized why a part of that line of poetry
stinks... it had to, to give Nostradamus the letters he needed.
The rest of the original quatrain is rather beautiful,
considering that it hides anagrams. But the beginning of that
fourth line destroyed the harmony of the poetry:
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Toy & les tiens quandfleurira la rose
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And why stick together the two words "quand" and "fleurira"?
Because Nostradamus wanted to show that the words making up his
poetry do not matter... it is the letters making up these words
which do matter.
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And, yes, Helen, there was enough space for the printers to leave
a space between "quand" and "fleurira". And to make the point
obvious, in the third line of the same quatrain, Nostradamus
separates two words which do not require to be separated, and he
has less space in that third line to do what he did than he had
in his fourth line:
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Ton sang viendras au pres de la cracher,
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You see, Nostradamus writes the word "auprès" many times... in
one word.
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And why didn't anybody figure that out prior to October 1993?
Because the original 1555 text by Nostradamus was not easily
available in print before 1984... and because it takes a rather
subtle person to figure it out, and because I got that idea only
in October 1993. That's why.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latrémouille
Le 6 décembre 2005
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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