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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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18 Apr 2007 03:18:25 PM |
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Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
Bush and Co. should be tried for war crimes.
Cheers,
Marvin
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Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge
Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:43PM EDT
By Dean Yates and Paul Tait
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Car bombs killed nearly 200 people in Baghdad on
Wednesday in the deadliest attacks in the city since U.S. and Iraqi
forces launched a security crackdown aimed at halting the country's
slide into civil war.
One car bomb alone in the mainly Shi'ite Sadriya neighborhood killed
140 people and wounded 150, police said, making it the worst insurgent
bomb attack in Baghdad since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
"The street was transformed into a swimming pool of blood," Ahmed
Hameed, a shopkeeper near the scene, told Reuters.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, speaking in Tel Aviv on a visit
to the region, called the bombings "horrifying" and indicated Sunni
Islamist al Qaeda was to blame.
The apparently coordinated attacks -- there were four within a short
space of time -- occurred hours after Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-
Maliki said Iraq would take security control of the whole country from
foreign forces by the end of the year.
Cont'd -- http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSPAR34073020070418
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 04:37:58 PM |
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On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are foreign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratically
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do you
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
Bush and Co. should be tried for war crimes.
Does "and Co." include Tony Blair? Hillary Clinton? Richard Gephardt?
Jay Rockefeller? John Edwards? And others? Just so I know.
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 06:19:51 PM |
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On Apr 18, 10:37?pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis.
You stupid, small-minded idiot.
This is man killing man. This is the result of American attack on the
Country.
Bush 'persuaded' as many as he could to join him in his own Christian
'Jihad'. Most of the world saw that this was no solution. You damned
Americans with your interfering ways caused the state of affairs in
Iraq. It is not your Country. Get out.
You should not have 'gone in'.
See to your own murderous students...leave other lands alone. Don't
you dare mention to me that the UK is present in Iraq. I bloody well
know that.
I condemn it. I condemn Bush. I condemn you.
Werewolfy
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 06:48:55 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1176938391.568142.128480@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 10:37?pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis.
You stupid, small-minded idiot.
This is man killing man. This is the result of American attack on the
Country.
Bush 'persuaded' as many as he could to join him in his own Christian
'Jihad'. Most of the world saw that this was no solution. You damned
Americans with your interfering ways caused the state of affairs in
Iraq. It is not your Country. Get out.
You should not have 'gone in'.
See to your own murderous students...leave other lands alone. Don't
you dare mention to me that the UK is present in Iraq. I bloody well
know that.
I condemn it. I condemn Bush. I condemn you.
I think Steven needs a little more than just 'condemning' !! He needs a
good kick in the arse!!
Werewolfy
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 06:56:05 PM |
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On Apr 18, 4:19 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I condemn you.
I would like to take this opportunity to say, in all sincerity, that
condemnation from the likes of you is absolutely meaningless to me.
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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18 Apr 2007 08:39:43 PM |
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On Apr 19, 12:56?am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
I would like to take this opportunity to say, in all sincerity, that
condemnation from the likes of you is absolutely meaningless to me.
Every bloody thing in the Universe is 'meaningless' to you. You
pontificate in here daily, you play the part of the 'good Christian'
and yet your posts always contain a veiled superiority, a contempt of
those who choose not to adore your wonderful, all-loving, God.
Christ all mighty, you have the skin of an elephant. Barbs of truth
strike you daily, yet still you laud your bizarre allegiances
regardless of the opposition.
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Or is it you?
Werewolfy
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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18 Apr 2007 09:59:36 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1176946783.384009.277500@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 19, 12:56?am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
I would like to take this opportunity to say, in all sincerity, that
condemnation from the likes of you is absolutely meaningless to me.
Every bloody thing in the Universe is 'meaningless' to you. You
pontificate in here daily, you play the part of the 'good Christian'
and yet your posts always contain a veiled superiority, a contempt of
those who choose not to adore your wonderful, all-loving, God.
Christ all mighty, you have the skin of an elephant. Barbs of truth
strike you daily, yet still you laud your bizarre allegiances
regardless of the opposition.
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Or is it you?
It's Steven!!!
Werewolfy
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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18 Apr 2007 10:40:48 PM |
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On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods. He clearly knows that his
team screwed the pooch, what the facts are. But if it's your life's
goal to be as our establishment gods then you can rise above reality,
if you practice. You can become one of them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
Or is it you?
It's a game and he's missing the joke.
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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19 Apr 2007 03:37:26 AM |
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"John Lemke" <jflemke@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:1176954048.425086.236790@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods. He clearly knows that his
team screwed the pooch, what the facts are. But if it's your life's
goal to be as our establishment gods then you can rise above reality,
if you practice. You can become one of them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
Or is it you?
It's a game and he's missing the joke.
He is the joke!
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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19 Apr 2007 07:53:50 AM |
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On Apr 19, 4:37 am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:1176954048.425086.236790@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods. He clearly knows that his
team screwed the pooch, what the facts are. But if it's your life's
goal to be as our establishment gods then you can rise above reality,
if you practice. You can become one of them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
Or is it you?
It's a game and he's missing the joke.
He is the joke!
"Steven" isn't the only issue. Steven's representative of a number of
ills that have plagued this country.
Steven represents the lies, mischaracterization, the perversion of
faith, the lack of respect for human life that results in things like
the invasion of Iraq.
This country was manipulated by fear, lies and anger into doing
incredible damage in the Middle East. People are suffering on a grand
scale because we were deceived on a grand scale. Sadly enough it's
not the first time in our history it's happened. We need to be aware
of these things so they'll never happen again.
The people involved in these murderous charades should be held in open
contempt. Their methods and motivations should be held up for
inspection and denuded. They should be ostracized.
Steven himself is an insignificant bug. What is said here won't shake
the world. But there is enlightenment to be found even in the
smallest conversation and there are things that need to be said. They
need to be said plainly, straightforwardly and often.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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19 Apr 2007 09:08:00 AM |
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On Apr 19, 5:53 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 19, 4:37 am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:1176954048.425086.236790@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods. He clearly knows that his
team screwed the pooch, what the facts are. But if it's your life's
goal to be as our establishment gods then you can rise above reality,
if you practice. You can become one of them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
Or is it you?
It's a game and he's missing the joke.
He is the joke!
"Steven" isn't the only issue. Steven's representative of a number of
ills that have plagued this country.
Steven represents the lies, mischaracterization, the perversion of
faith, the lack of respect for human life that results in things like
the invasion of Iraq.
This country was manipulated by fear, lies and anger into doing
incredible damage in the Middle East. People are suffering on a grand
scale because we were deceived on a grand scale. Sadly enough it's
not the first time in our history it's happened. We need to be aware
of these things so they'll never happen again.
The people involved in these murderous charades should be held in open
contempt. Their methods and motivations should be held up for
inspection and denuded. They should be ostracized.
No just so we're clear, are you including Tony Blair, Hillary Clinton,
Richard Gephardt, Jay Rockefeller, and John Edwards (among many
others), or do they have no reponsibility? Or does your hatred for
Bush give those people a pass?
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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19 Apr 2007 09:30:47 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176991680.700523.105680@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 19, 5:53 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 19, 4:37 am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:1176954048.425086.236790@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods. He clearly knows that his
team screwed the pooch, what the facts are. But if it's your life's
goal to be as our establishment gods then you can rise above reality,
if you practice. You can become one of them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
Or is it you?
It's a game and he's missing the joke.
He is the joke!
"Steven" isn't the only issue. Steven's representative of a number of
ills that have plagued this country.
Steven represents the lies, mischaracterization, the perversion of
faith, the lack of respect for human life that results in things like
the invasion of Iraq.
This country was manipulated by fear, lies and anger into doing
incredible damage in the Middle East. People are suffering on a grand
scale because we were deceived on a grand scale. Sadly enough it's
not the first time in our history it's happened. We need to be aware
of these things so they'll never happen again.
The people involved in these murderous charades should be held in open
contempt. Their methods and motivations should be held up for
inspection and denuded. They should be ostracized.
No just so we're clear, are you including Tony Blair, Hillary Clinton,
Richard Gephardt, Jay Rockefeller, and John Edwards (among many
others), or do they have no reponsibility? Or does your hatred for
Bush give those people a pass?
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| User: "WH" |
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19 Apr 2007 09:37:10 AM |
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On 19 Apr, 16:08, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:53 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 19, 4:37 am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:1176954048.425086.236790@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods. He clearly knows that h=
is
team screwed the pooch, what the facts are. But if it's your life's
goal to be as our establishment gods then you can rise above realit=
y,
if you practice. You can become one of them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
Or is it you?
It's a game and he's missing the joke.
He is the joke!
"Steven" isn't the only issue. Steven's representative of a number of
ills that have plagued this country.
Steven represents the lies, mischaracterization, the perversion of
faith, the lack of respect for human life that results in things like
the invasion of Iraq.
This country was manipulated by fear, lies and anger into doing
incredible damage in the Middle East. People are suffering on a grand
scale because we were deceived on a grand scale. Sadly enough it's
not the first time in our history it's happened. We need to be aware
of these things so they'll never happen again.
The people involved in these murderous charades should be held in open
contempt. Their methods and motivations should be held up for
inspection and denuded. They should be ostracized.
No just so we're clear, are you including Tony Blair, Hillary Clinton,
Richard Gephardt, Jay Rockefeller, and John Edwards (among many
others), or do they have no reponsibility? Or does your hatred for
Bush give those people a pass?- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
Childish fuckin' idiot!
WH
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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19 Apr 2007 09:57:50 AM |
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On Apr 19, 7:37 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 19 Apr, 16:08, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:53 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 19, 4:37 am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:1176954048.425086.236790@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Is everyone wrong? Are we all plebian fools?
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods. He clearly knows that=
his
team screwed the pooch, what the facts are. But if it's your lif=
e's
goal to be as our establishment gods then you can rise above real=
ity,
if you practice. You can become one of them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
Or is it you?
It's a game and he's missing the joke.
He is the joke!
"Steven" isn't the only issue. Steven's representative of a number of
ills that have plagued this country.
Steven represents the lies, mischaracterization, the perversion of
faith, the lack of respect for human life that results in things like
the invasion of Iraq.
This country was manipulated by fear, lies and anger into doing
incredible damage in the Middle East. People are suffering on a grand
scale because we were deceived on a grand scale. Sadly enough it's
not the first time in our history it's happened. We need to be aware
of these things so they'll never happen again.
The people involved in these murderous charades should be held in open
contempt. Their methods and motivations should be held up for
inspection and denuded. They should be ostracized.
No just so we're clear, are you including Tony Blair, Hillary Clinton,
Richard Gephardt, Jay Rockefeller, and John Edwards (among many
others), or do they have no reponsibility? Or does your hatred for
Bush give those people a pass?- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
Childish fuckin' idiot!
Why is that? Because I'd like to know if all the other people who
approved the use of military force in Iraq have some responsibility
for their actions? Why is that childish? Please explain.
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19 Apr 2007 05:50:29 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Please explain.
No use explainig anything to a retard that can't understand anything!!
Where would there be logic in that?
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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19 Apr 2007 07:12:15 PM |
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On Apr 19, 7:37 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Childish fuckin' idiot!
On Apr 19, 3:57 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> replied;
Why is that? Because I'd like to know if all the other people who
approved the use of military force in Iraq have some responsibility
for their actions? Why is that childish? Please explain
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Wonderful.
Chris writes three words.
Stephen responds with three questions.
At least he had the sense to confine his questioning to a single word.
Presumably he has no issue with being a 'fuckin' idiot.
And why indeed should he?
Werewolfy
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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19 Apr 2007 07:57:21 PM |
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On Apr 19, 5:12 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Apr 19, 7:37 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Childish fuckin' idiot!
On Apr 19, 3:57 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> replied;
Why is that? Because I'd like to know if all the other people who
approved the use of military force in Iraq have some responsibility
for their actions? Why is that childish? Please explain
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Wonderful.
Chris writes three words.
Stephen responds with three questions.
At least he had the sense to confine his questioning to a single word.
Presumably he has no issue with being a 'fuckin' idiot.
And why indeed should he?
They're legitimate questions. I'm still waiting for an answer. By the
way, have you noticed he asks me questions as well? Questions are a
legitimate part of debate. Actual debate, not simply a string of silly
personal attacks.
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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19 Apr 2007 10:22:47 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177030641.800368.101460@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 19, 5:12 pm, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Apr 19, 7:37 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Childish fuckin' idiot!
On Apr 19, 3:57 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> replied;
Why is that? Because I'd like to know if all the other people who
approved the use of military force in Iraq have some responsibility
for their actions? Why is that childish? Please explain
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Wonderful.
Chris writes three words.
Stephen responds with three questions.
At least he had the sense to confine his questioning to a single word.
Presumably he has no issue with being a 'fuckin' idiot.
And why indeed should he?
They're legitimate questions. I'm still waiting for an answer. By the
way, have you noticed he asks me questions as well? Questions are a
legitimate part of debate. Actual debate, not simply a string of silly
personal attacks.
I way prefer personal attacks!!! What is there to debate with an idiot?
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18 Apr 2007 11:07:26 PM |
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On Apr 18, 8:40 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Steven knows he's selling a bill of goods.
What is it about extreme leftists that causes them to question the
motives of people with whom they disagree? I couldn't possibly believe
what I believe, right? I've heard that theory quite often from the
various fringe leftists I have encountered from time to time.
He clearly knows that his team screwed the pooch, what the facts
are. But if it's your life's goal to be as our establishment gods then
you can rise above reality, if you practice. You can become one of
them.
We're here to serve an ego that's been underpriviledged since his
youth.
It's fascinating the way *projection* gets thrown around this group on
such a regular basis.
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18 Apr 2007 05:39:20 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:58 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are foreign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratically
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do you
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
"Insurgents" != "al qaeda"
Woods
Bush and Co. should be tried for war crimes.
Does "and Co." include Tony Blair? Hillary Clinton? Richard Gephardt?
Jay Rockefeller? John Edwards? And others? Just so I know.
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18 Apr 2007 06:19:03 PM |
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On Apr 18, 6:39 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:58 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are foreign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratically
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do you
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
"Insurgents" != "al qaeda"
Woods
But then Ali Alawi contends that the violence wouldn't get any worse
if we simply left.
Doesn't say much for our influence there does it?
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18 Apr 2007 06:53:10 PM |
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On Apr 18, 4:19 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:39 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:58 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are foreign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratically
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do you
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
"Insurgents" != "al qaeda"
Woods
But then Ali Alawi contends that the violence wouldn't get any worse
if we simply left.
Doesn't say much for our influence there does it?
When the Iraqi government (and not just one man) agrees that we should
leave, I will no longer support a continued presence in Iraq.
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18 Apr 2007 05:52:30 PM |
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On Apr 18, 6:39 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:58 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are foreign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratically
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do you
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
"Insurgents" != "al qaeda"
Woods
It was an "Al Queda" attack against a Shia target. We'll try to keep
Steven on the right track here. We don't want anyone disturbing the
facts and the proper context.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 06:49:15 PM |
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On Apr 18, 3:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:39 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:58 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outside
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are foreign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratically
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do you
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
"Insurgents" != "al qaeda"
Woods
It was an "Al Queda" attack against a Shia target. We'll try to keep
Steven on the right track here. We don't want anyone disturbing the
facts and the proper context.
Hey, slick way to correct Woods while making it look like you're
correcting me. I wish Woods would read this article I posted
previously (in another thread), and she apparently snipped without
reading:
The Iraq Parliament Attack: Al-Qaeda Sends a Message
Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007
By BRIAN BENNETT/BAGHDAD
[excerpt] Within an hour of the explosion, a message from the al-Qaeda-
controlled Islamic State in Iraq was posted on a prominent militant
website, muslm.net, calling the blast a "message" to anyone who
cooperates with "the occupier and its agents." It said ominously, "We
will reach you wherever you are"
The extremists want to stop efforts of reconciliation between the
Iraqi government and an Iraqi-led, nationalist faction of the
insurgency that has turned on al-Qaeda in recent weeks. That was the
likely motive in an earlier attack on March 23, when Deputy Prime
Minister Salam al-Zubaie was hospitalized after an attack reportedly
carried out by a guard who detonated a suicide vest at al-Zubaie's
compound on the edge of the Green Zone. Al-Zubaie, a Sunni from a
powerful tribe west of Baghdad, is an important promoter of the
reconciliation policy. [end excerpt]
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1609521,00.html?xid=rss-topstories
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| User: "WH" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
19 Apr 2007 09:34:04 AM |
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On 19 Apr, 01:49, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 18, 3:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:39 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:58 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily =
in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was outsi=
de
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are fore=
ign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratically
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do y=
ou
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
"Insurgents" !=3D "al qaeda"
Woods
It was an "Al Queda" attack against a Shia target. We'll try to keep
Steven on the right track here. We don't want anyone disturbing the
facts and the proper context.
Hey, slick way to correct Woods while making it look like you're
correcting me. I wish Woods would read this article I posted
previously (in another thread), and she apparently snipped without
reading:
The Iraq Parliament Attack: Al-Qaeda Sends a Message
Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007
By BRIAN BENNETT/BAGHDAD
[excerpt] Within an hour of the explosion, a message from the al-Qaeda-
controlled Islamic State in Iraq was posted on a prominent militant
website, muslm.net, calling the blast a "message" to anyone who
cooperates with "the occupier and its agents." It said ominously, "We
will reach you wherever you are"
The extremists want to stop efforts of reconciliation between the
Iraqi government and an Iraqi-led, nationalist faction of the
insurgency that has turned on al-Qaeda in recent weeks. That was the
likely motive in an earlier attack on March 23, when Deputy Prime
Minister Salam al-Zubaie was hospitalized after an attack reportedly
carried out by a guard who detonated a suicide vest at al-Zubaie's
compound on the edge of the Green Zone. Al-Zubaie, a Sunni from a
powerful tribe west of Baghdad, is an important promoter of the
reconciliation policy. [end excerpt]
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1609521,00.html?xid=3Drss..=
..- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
It's someone's opinion douglas, not necessarily the truth. It's a made
up story. You disingenuous twat!
WH
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
19 Apr 2007 09:56:05 AM |
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On Apr 19, 7:34 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 19 Apr, 01:49, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 18, 3:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:39 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:58 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening dail=
y in
the U.S. capitol?
This was an Al Qaeda attack against Iraqi civilians. This was out=
side
agitators murdering Iraqis. Sadistic terrorists targeting innocent
civilians. These are not Randy's "freedom fighters." These are fo=
reign
terrorists who intend to ensure there will be no reconciliation
between some factions of the Sunni insurgency and the democratica=
lly
elected Iraqi government. It's sickening. It's maddening. What do=
you
think would happen if we were to suddenly abandon the Iraqi
government?
"Insurgents" !=3D "al qaeda"
Woods
It was an "Al Queda" attack against a Shia target. We'll try to keep
Steven on the right track here. We don't want anyone disturbing the
facts and the proper context.
Hey, slick way to correct Woods while making it look like you're
correcting me. I wish Woods would read this article I posted
previously (in another thread), and she apparently snipped without
reading:
The Iraq Parliament Attack: Al-Qaeda Sends a Message
Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007
By BRIAN BENNETT/BAGHDAD
[excerpt] Within an hour of the explosion, a message from the al-Qaeda-
controlled Islamic State in Iraq was posted on a prominent militant
website, muslm.net, calling the blast a "message" to anyone who
cooperates with "the occupier and its agents." It said ominously, "We
will reach you wherever you are"
The extremists want to stop efforts of reconciliation between the
Iraqi government and an Iraqi-led, nationalist faction of the
insurgency that has turned on al-Qaeda in recent weeks. That was the
likely motive in an earlier attack on March 23, when Deputy Prime
Minister Salam al-Zubaie was hospitalized after an attack reportedly
carried out by a guard who detonated a suicide vest at al-Zubaie's
compound on the edge of the Green Zone. Al-Zubaie, a Sunni from a
powerful tribe west of Baghdad, is an important promoter of the
reconciliation policy. [end excerpt]
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1609521,00.html?xid=3Drss.=
..=2ED=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
It's someone's opinion douglas, not necessarily the truth. It's a made
up story.
It's a legitimate news story. It has been reported that a faction of
the Sunni insurgency was working on reconciliation with the Iraqi
government, and these Al Qaeda terrorists (who posted on a website, as
the article above mentions) will do whatever it takes to prevent a
Sunni reconciliation with the Iraqi government.
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 06:08:19 PM |
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On Apr 18, 6:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
It was an "Al Queda" attack against a Shia target. We'll try to keep
Steven on the right track here. We don't want anyone disturbing the
facts and the proper context.
It's important, of course, to do deal with the facts and maintain
proper context because if it's really an Al Queda attack against
innocent freedom yearning Iraqis then Steven's still able to spin his
myths.
To admit to what really happened today would be to understand that
what you really have in Iraq, have had in Iraq, is a civil war. A
civil war with "Al Queda" fighting with the Sunnis.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 06:51:33 PM |
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On Apr 18, 4:08 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
It was an "Al Queda" attack against a Shia target. We'll try to keep
Steven on the right track here. We don't want anyone disturbing the
facts and the proper context.
It's important, of course, to do deal with the facts and maintain
proper context because if it's really an Al Queda attack against
innocent freedom yearning Iraqis then Steven's still able to spin his
myths.
To admit to what really happened today would be to understand that
what you really have in Iraq, have had in Iraq, is a civil war. A
civil war with "Al Queda" fighting with the Sunnis.
Please read the article I just posted above. Of course, since you have
me killfiled, you may not see it and remain in your ill-informed
state.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 06:51:52 PM |
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On Apr 18, 4:08 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
It was an "Al Queda" attack against a Shia target. We'll try to keep
Steven on the right track here. We don't want anyone disturbing the
facts and the proper context.
It's important, of course, to do deal with the facts and maintain
proper context because if it's really an Al Queda attack against
innocent freedom yearning Iraqis then Steven's still able to spin his
myths.
To admit to what really happened today would be to understand that
what you really have in Iraq, have had in Iraq, is a civil war. A
civil war with "Al Queda" fighting with the Sunnis.
Please read the article I just posted above. Of course, since you have
me killfiled, you may not see it and remain in your ill-informed
state.
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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| Title: Re: Bombs kill nearly 200 in Baghdad after PM's pledge |
18 Apr 2007 03:56:55 PM |
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On Apr 18, 4:18 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What would be the level of horror be if this were happening daily in
the U.S. capitol?
This is a success that Mr. Bush is claiming. It's happening over there
and not here. Part of his overall ME strategy.
Ali Alawi said week before last on Charlie Rose that the violence in
Iraq wouldn't get any worse if we left.
Turns out, in actuality, that one of the things we're doing with the
establishment of government structure there is providing a platform
for the Shiites to bring Sunnis under heel. The only new government
ministry they really insisted on running after the elections was the
Ministry of Interior. You know what Saddam did with his Ministry of
Interior? Control over domestic surveillance and those commando
teams. All those torture centers at your disposal.
Of course then Sunnis are contesting this on any one of a number of
levels.
Play along with the Americans and their "dream" of freedom and
democracy in Iraq. We'll provide what it takes to bring our own peace
and stability to Iraq.
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