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09 Apr 2005 11:48:26 PM |
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Su Zanadu wrote:
But we are *still* STUCK with him!
Aren't we?
:'(
Susan
"disgruntled American"
Not to worry, the Mullahs will be dismantling the unpopular regime in
America very soon.
Stat tuned!
Stat.
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| User: "" |
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10 Apr 2005 07:07:19 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:48:26 -0400, MonsieurStat
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
But we are *still* STUCK with him!
Aren't we?
:'(
Susan
"disgruntled American"
Not to worry, the Mullahs will be dismantling the unpopular regime in
America very soon.
Stat tuned!
Stat.
The sooner the better.
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| User: "The CO" |
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10 Apr 2005 08:27:37 AM |
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Su Zanadu wrote:
But we are *still* STUCK with him!
Aren't we?
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It occurs to me that a second term president doesn't really have to give
a damn. He can't be elected for a third term, so perhaps this is when
he would be likely to spring policies that would be unpopular. What can
the electorate do?
Perhaps the 2 term maximum works against the best interests of the people?
The CO
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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10 Apr 2005 11:00:52 AM |
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The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It occurs to me that a second term
president doesn't really have to give a
damn. He can't be elected for a third
term, so perhaps this is when he would
be likely to spring policies that would be
unpopular. What can the electorate do?
I think you are right!
How long of a term does your PM serve in Australia and can they serve
again if re elected?
Perhaps the 2 term maximum works
against the best interests of the people?
When it's a "Bush" it sure does!
The CO
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| User: "" |
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11 Apr 2005 07:59:54 AM |
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The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
Even slower than you think, it's actually another 3 years and 9
months.
Tony
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| User: "tw" |
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11 Apr 2005 07:59:48 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224284.250ac0fc042793e071ac72e3230c72ca@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
Even slower than you think, it's actually another 3 years and 9
months.
Tony
Unless he chokes on another pretzel..
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:02:52 AM |
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tw wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224284.250ac0fc042793e071ac72e3230c72ca@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
Even slower than you think, it's actually another 3 years and 9
months.
Tony
Unless he chokes on another pretzel..
.... while falling off of his two wheeler ...
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11 Apr 2005 09:16:06 AM |
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Marvin the Gay Clown wrote:
tw wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224284.250ac0fc042793e071ac72e3230c72ca@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
Even slower than you think, it's actually another 3 years and 9
months.
Tony
Unless he chokes on another pretzel..
... while falling off of his two wheeler ...
Hey Fag, try riding the trails that the President does, I bet you
won't last 5 minutes.
Tony
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android`" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:21:59 AM |
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wrote:
Marvin the Gay Clown wrote:
tw wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:1113224284.250ac0fc042793e071ac72e3230c72ca@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
Even slower than you think, it's actually another 3 years and 9
months.
Tony
Unless he chokes on another pretzel..
... while falling off of his two wheeler ...
Hey Fag, try riding the trails that the President does, I bet you
won't last 5 minutes.
Tony
Bet ya I could, so there.
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| User: "tw" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:28:54 AM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android`" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:1113229406.18b22e605bbef1879f3554ea802b65a7@teranews...
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Marvin the Gay Clown wrote:
tw wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224284.250ac0fc042793e071ac72e3230c72ca@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
Even slower than you think, it's actually another 3 years and 9
months.
Tony
Unless he chokes on another pretzel..
... while falling off of his two wheeler ...
Hey Fag, try riding the trails that the President does, I bet you
won't last 5 minutes.
Tony
Bet ya I could, so there.
I bet your dad couldn't do them as well as my dad though. I bet you a
MILLION POUNDS.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android`" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:36:22 AM |
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tw wrote:
"Marvin The Paranoid Android`" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:1113229406.18b22e605bbef1879f3554ea802b65a7@teranews...
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Marvin the Gay Clown wrote:
tw wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224284.250ac0fc042793e071ac72e3230c72ca@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
Even slower than you think, it's actually another 3 years and 9
months.
Tony
Unless he chokes on another pretzel..
... while falling off of his two wheeler ...
Hey Fag, try riding the trails that the President does, I bet you
won't last 5 minutes.
Tony
Bet ya I could, so there.
I bet your dad couldn't do them as well as my dad though. I bet you a
MILLION POUNDS.
Oh yeah??
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| User: "TheCO" |
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11 Apr 2005 01:40:49 AM |
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Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
It occurs to me that a second term
president doesn't really have to give a
damn. He can't be elected for a third
term, so perhaps this is when he would
be likely to spring policies that would be
unpopular. What can the electorate do?
I think you are right!
How long of a term does your PM serve in Australia and can they serve
again if re elected?
Term for a *government* 4 years, but the PM not directly elected.
You can and do get changes in PM during the course of a government,
since the PM is simply the leader of the party in government (what you
refer to as the 'Majority Leader' I think.) The 'Minority Leader' is
called the Leader of the Opposition in Oz, at both state and federal
levels. (The State equivalent to the PM is the Premier, but the setup
is the same.)
So there is no maximum, or minimum, time that a PM can serve.
Howard is the second longest serving PM in our History, only Sir Robert
'Pig Iron Bob' Menzies had a longer term.
(The nickname comes from his insistence on selling pig iron to the
Japanese prior to WW2. We got it back as shrapnel.)
The PM has less executive authority than your President (they are not
really equivalent) at least in theory, the cabinet does a lot more than
the PM and he has no right of veto on a bill. The only person that can
do that is the Governor General, who also has the power to dismiss
parliament in certain situations. He is appointed not elected.
You seem to have elected officials for just about everything, including
judges and sheriffs and the like, even Police Chiefs?
In Oz, they are all appointed by government, and there is only one
police force in each state so there are no elections for that either,
that's a promotion/appointment for a serving senior policeman.
Oh, a 'sheriff' here is not a local police officer, but an officer of
the court and has no Police like duties. Bottom line is that law
enforcment, judges etc are not elected officials, they are career
people, either in the public service (Justice Administration). Oh, and a
mayor has no authority over the Police force since it is a state
government instrumentality, in fact a mayor on his own has very little
Perhaps the 2 term maximum works
against the best interests of the people?
When it's a "Bush" it sure does!
Don't think it matters who it is actually.
One of the problems with elected (anything) is that for their term of
office they pretty much run things how they wish, unless there is a
coherent and almost as numerous opposition. There is no mechanism by
which the people can force them to not make laws they don't want or make
laws that they do want. All you can do is wait til there term is up and
vote them out. Not much of a deterrent is it?
The Swedes have a peoples initiated referendum system that *can* force
governments to act by making a law or rescinding one that is unpopular,
so that is closer to *real* democracy than either Oz or the US enjoys.
The CO
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:09:30 PM |
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The CO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history
judges the man, say 10 years from now.
Did you say "History" ????
:)
This one's a classic!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/browse_thread/thread/702976361308e57/3bb345641932ad47?q=doonesbury&rnum=1
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| User: "" |
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11 Apr 2005 08:02:34 AM |
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The CO wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
Of course it was.
You are one of the few people here who have some intelligence when
dealing with this subject, most of the others are driven by emotions
and ignorance.
Tony
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| User: "tw" |
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11 Apr 2005 08:07:34 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224457.ecd908a89aa3ec10b95126dc12262f83@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
Of course it was.
You are one of the few people here who have some intelligence when
dealing with this subject, most of the others are driven by emotions
and ignorance.
..as opposed to whatever dark, sexual demons drive your opiate-radlled
thinking you fat weirdo. Of course, you've never canvased anyobdy's opinions
on these matters. For example, you have absolutely no idea what my position
re Iraq or Afghanistan is (though bo doubt you think you do, whcih
illustrates my point quite nicely)
Tony
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| User: "" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:00:37 AM |
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TW wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224457.ecd908a89aa3ec10b95126dc12262f83@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
Of course it was.
You are one of the few people here who have some intelligence when
dealing with this subject, most of the others are driven by emotions
and ignorance.
.as opposed to whatever dark, sexual demons drive your opiate-radlled thinking
Tommy Boy, since it is you and Amy who contantly post about such
things in this group, logic tells us that it is you two that have
these things on your mind.
Tony
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| User: "tw" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:03:56 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113227925.c91d76afd171c920729da4edbff575d1@teranews...
TW wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224457.ecd908a89aa3ec10b95126dc12262f83@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
Of course it was.
You are one of the few people here who have some intelligence when
dealing with this subject, most of the others are driven by emotions
and ignorance.
.as opposed to whatever dark, sexual demons drive your opiate-radlled
thinking
Tommy Boy, since it is you and Amy who contantly post about such
things in this group,
Not strictly true, fatso. Amy merely reposts YOUR POSTS on the matter.
logic tells us that it is you two that have
these things on your mind.
LOL! YOu and logic aren't even passing acquaintances, in fact I doubt you've
ever met.
Of course, you've never canvased anyobdy's opinions
on these matters. For example, you have absolutely no idea what my position
re Iraq or Afghanistan is (though no doubt you think you do, whcih
illustrates my point quite nicely)
Tony
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11 Apr 2005 09:14:32 AM |
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TW wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113227925.c91d76afd171c920729da4edbff575d1@teranews...
TW wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224457.ecd908a89aa3ec10b95126dc12262f83@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
Of course it was.
You are one of the few people here who have some intelligence when
dealing with this subject, most of the others are driven by emotions
and ignorance.
.as opposed to whatever dark, sexual demons drive your opiate-radlled
thinking
Tommy Boy, since it is you and Amy who contantly post about such
things in this group,
Not strictly true
Liar, it is entirely true and you're afraid to face up to your
obsession.
logic tells us that it is you two that have
these things on your mind.
LOL!
The truth is funny?
Of course, you've never canvased anyobdy's opinions
on these matters. For example, you have absolutely no idea what my position
re Iraq or Afghanistan is (though no doubt you think you do, whcih
illustrates my point quite nicely)
Tommy Boy, if you haven't given them by nowm who the ***** cares what
you have to say?
Tony
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| User: "tw" |
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11 Apr 2005 09:18:44 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113228762.6c66d6ebaf7faac7e1a53af8186f58fc@teranews...
TW wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113227925.c91d76afd171c920729da4edbff575d1@teranews...
TW wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113224457.ecd908a89aa3ec10b95126dc12262f83@teranews...
The CO wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other
than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of
Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
Of course it was.
You are one of the few people here who have some intelligence when
dealing with this subject, most of the others are driven by emotions
and ignorance.
.as opposed to whatever dark, sexual demons drive your opiate-radlled
thinking
Tommy Boy, since it is you and Amy who contantly post about such
things in this group,
Not strictly true
Liar, it is entirely true and you're afraid to face up to your
obsession.
LOL! Now, let's de-snip the second part of that statement
Not strictly true.Amy merely reposts YOUR POSTS on the matter.
Which, I agree IS entirely true..
logic tells us that it is you two that have
these things on your mind.
LOL!
The truth is funny?
The truth that you woudln't know logic if it smacked you in yuor fat face
and sent you running to Aruba is pretty funny, yes.
Of course, you've never canvased anyobdy's opinions
on these matters. For example, you have absolutely no idea what my
position
re Iraq or Afghanistan is (though no doubt you think you do, whcih
illustrates my point quite nicely)
Tommy Boy, if you haven't given them by nowm who the ***** cares what
you have to say?
Ah.. so you admit you make these statements from a position of wilful
ignorance. Grand!
Tony
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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11 Apr 2005 04:27:14 PM |
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TheCO wrote:
Su Zanadu wrote:
The CO wrote:
Yes, for another 3 and half years.
It sure is SLOW going!
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for Ford. The
only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush cabal,
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy and
Johnson.
Actually, I'm a moderate Republican, switched to Democrat when I saw the
fundie loons taking over the party. Never voted Democrat in my life
until Reagan's second go-round. There are a lot like me out there.
Woods
I was in favour of the attack on Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq.
I still think that in the long term it was the best
It occurs to me that a second term
president doesn't really have to give a
damn. He can't be elected for a third
term, so perhaps this is when he would
be likely to spring policies that would be
unpopular. What can the electorate do?
I think you are right!
How long of a term does your PM serve in Australia and can they serve
again if re elected?
Term for a *government* 4 years, but the PM not directly elected.
You can and do get changes in PM during the course of a government,
since the PM is simply the leader of the party in government (what you
refer to as the 'Majority Leader' I think.) The 'Minority Leader' is
called the Leader of the Opposition in Oz, at both state and federal
levels. (The State equivalent to the PM is the Premier, but the setup
is the same.)
So there is no maximum, or minimum, time that a PM can serve.
Howard is the second longest serving PM in our History, only Sir Robert
'Pig Iron Bob' Menzies had a longer term.
(The nickname comes from his insistence on selling pig iron to the
Japanese prior to WW2. We got it back as shrapnel.)
The PM has less executive authority than your President (they are not
really equivalent) at least in theory, the cabinet does a lot more than
the PM and he has no right of veto on a bill. The only person that can
do that is the Governor General, who also has the power to dismiss
parliament in certain situations. He is appointed not elected.
You seem to have elected officials for just about everything, including
judges and sheriffs and the like, even Police Chiefs?
In Oz, they are all appointed by government, and there is only one
police force in each state so there are no elections for that either,
that's a promotion/appointment for a serving senior policeman.
Oh, a 'sheriff' here is not a local police officer, but an officer of
the court and has no Police like duties. Bottom line is that law
enforcment, judges etc are not elected officials, they are career
people, either in the public service (Justice Administration). Oh, and a
mayor has no authority over the Police force since it is a state
government instrumentality, in fact a mayor on his own has very little
Perhaps the 2 term maximum works
against the best interests of the people?
When it's a "Bush" it sure does!
Don't think it matters who it is actually.
One of the problems with elected (anything) is that for their term of
office they pretty much run things how they wish, unless there is a
coherent and almost as numerous opposition. There is no mechanism by
which the people can force them to not make laws they don't want or make
laws that they do want. All you can do is wait til there term is up and
vote them out. Not much of a deterrent is it?
The Swedes have a peoples initiated referendum system that *can* force
governments to act by making a law or rescinding one that is unpopular,
so that is closer to *real* democracy than either Oz or the US enjoys.
The CO
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11 Apr 2005 08:49:12 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10 years
from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other than
their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all Republican
Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for Ford. The
only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy and
Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out of
his element.
Actually, I'm a moderate Republican, switched to Democrat when I saw the
fundie loons taking over the party. Never voted Democrat in my life
until Reagan's second go-round. There are a lot like me out there.
I was originally a staunch Labor (sorta like your democrats) voter. But
the ALP here has gone way too left wing radical, and gone from being
mildly green to rabidly so and have picked up their absolute pacifist
attitudes with it. They were decimated at the last election.
Interestingly they now lead the government by 4 points after ditching
their leader and recycling a previous one. Whether this continues will
depend on a number of things, but we have 3 + years to go before the
next election so it's not yet significant. There is some evidence the
ALP are trying to regain the middle ground as they have learned a hard
lesson that many people don't appreciate some of the extremist greenie
attitudes.
The CO
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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13 Apr 2005 04:40:27 PM |
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TheCO wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other
than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all
Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for Ford.
The only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy
and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out of
his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that really
started the Cuban missile crisis, and he put his brother in the AG
position just because his daddy wanted him to. "Do what Daddy tells
you" is not a valid rational for selecting your staff.
Johnson was crude and boorish, and he belonged more in a junk yard than
the White House. (Of course, I was a kid at the time, but that's the
general impression I get of the guy in hindsight).
Actually, I'm a moderate Republican, switched to Democrat when I saw
the fundie loons taking over the party. Never voted Democrat in my
life until Reagan's second go-round. There are a lot like me out there.
I was originally a staunch Labor (sorta like your democrats) voter. But
the ALP here has gone way too left wing radical, and gone from being
mildly green to rabidly so and have picked up their absolute pacifist
attitudes with it. They were decimated at the last election.
Interestingly they now lead the government by 4 points after ditching
their leader and recycling a previous one. Whether this continues will
depend on a number of things, but we have 3 + years to go before the
next election so it's not yet significant. There is some evidence the
ALP are trying to regain the middle ground as they have learned a hard
lesson that many people don't appreciate some of the extremist greenie
attitudes.
I'm more of the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" mindset. You get a
lot more cooperation if you are cooperative and treat others with
dignity - but you do have that stick available, if it comes down to it.
(But not to bully).
Woods
The CO
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14 Apr 2005 10:33:46 AM |
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Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other
than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all
Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for Ford.
The only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy
and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out of
his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that really
started the Cuban missile crisis,
Sheesh, you hate your own country much more than even I thought you
did.
The USSR had nuclear capable missiles in Cuba and you blame our
President? You're wacked out, and this proves it more than anything
else you have ever posted.
I'm more of the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" mindset. You get a
lot more cooperation if you are cooperative and treat others with
dignity - but you do have that stick available, if it comes down to it.
(But not to bully).
Woods
Please, who are you bullshitting, the only stick you support using is
one like the French use, the kind where you hit yourself on the ***** to
make you run away faster.
Tony
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15 Apr 2005 03:21:17 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492714.3a425f33bf01a0b270c5c2a320634f4b@teranews...
Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other
than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all
Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat
Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for Ford.
The only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy
and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out of
his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that really
started the Cuban missile crisis,
Sheesh, you hate your own country much more than even I thought you
did.
The USSR had nuclear capable missiles in Cuba and you blame our
President?
The President put IRBMs in Turkey and you blame the Soviets for doing the
same thing in Cuba?! JFK was spoiling for a scrap.
You're wacked out, and this proves it more than anything
else you have ever posted.
...and you simply don't have a clue about international politics.
I'm more of the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" mindset. You get a
lot more cooperation if you are cooperative and treat others with
dignity - but you do have that stick available, if it comes down to it.
(But not to bully).
Woods
Please, who are you bullshitting, the only stick you support using is
one like the French use, the kind where you hit yourself on the ***** to
make you run away faster.
...run away to Aruba?
Tony
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14 Apr 2005 05:05:51 PM |
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wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other
than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all
Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for Ford.
The only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy
and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out of
his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that really
started the Cuban missile crisis,
Sheesh, you hate your own country much more than even I thought you
did.
The USSR had nuclear capable missiles in Cuba and you blame our
President? You're wacked out, and this proves it more than anything
else you have ever posted.
You are aware, aren't you, that Russia was attempting to place missiles
in Cuba in response to our placement of missiles in Europe? You did
know that, right?
I'm more of the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" mindset. You get a
lot more cooperation if you are cooperative and treat others with
dignity - but you do have that stick available, if it comes down to it.
(But not to bully).
Woods
Please, who are you bullshitting, the only stick you support using is
one like the French use, the kind where you hit yourself on the ***** to
make you run away faster.
Um .... go ahead and think that if you like.
Woods
Tony
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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14 Apr 2005 06:42:07 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is
other than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all
Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat
Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for
Ford. The only ones I really have a problem with are the
Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy
and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out
of his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that
really started the Cuban missile crisis,
Sheesh, you hate your own country much more than even I thought you
did.
The USSR had nuclear capable missiles in Cuba and you blame our
President? You're wacked out, and this proves it more than anything
else you have ever posted.
You are aware, aren't you, that Russia was attempting to place missiles
in Cuba in response to our placement of missiles in Europe? You did
know that, right?
It was actually in response of nuclear missle bases in Turkey which is
as close to Russia as Cuba is to the US. But for some reason, Americans
think it is ok when they do these things (because they believe it is for
an ultimate good?), but not if others do it (because it can't be
anything but for evil reasons?).
Stat.
I'm more of the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" mindset. You get
a lot more cooperation if you are cooperative and treat others with
dignity - but you do have that stick available, if it comes down to
it. (But not to bully).
Woods
Please, who are you bullshitting, the only stick you support using is
one like the French use, the kind where you hit yourself on the ***** to
make you run away faster.
Um .... go ahead and think that if you like.
Woods
Tony
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Has Lowest Approval Rating in History |
14 Apr 2005 09:06:04 PM |
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MonsieurStat wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is
other than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about
all Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat
Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for
Ford. The only ones I really have a problem with are the
Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated
Kennedy and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out
of his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that
really started the Cuban missile crisis,
Sheesh, you hate your own country much more than even I thought you
did.
The USSR had nuclear capable missiles in Cuba and you blame our
President? You're wacked out, and this proves it more than anything
else you have ever posted.
You are aware, aren't you, that Russia was attempting to place
missiles in Cuba in response to our placement of missiles in Europe?
You did know that, right?
It was actually in response of nuclear missle bases in Turkey which is
as close to Russia as Cuba is to the US. But for some reason, Americans
think it is ok when they do these things (because they believe it is for
an ultimate good?), but not if others do it (because it can't be
anything but for evil reasons?).
Stat.
Well, with ~Stalin~ it couldn't have been for any good reasons, but
can't speak for the others. I pretty much think they've mostly been
obnoxious, with a couple of halfway decent one thrown in there.
Woods
I'm more of the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" mindset. You
get a lot more cooperation if you are cooperative and treat others
with dignity - but you do have that stick available, if it comes
down to it. (But not to bully).
Woods
Please, who are you bullshitting, the only stick you support using is
one like the French use, the kind where you hit yourself on the ***** to
make you run away faster.
Um .... go ahead and think that if you like.
Woods
Tony
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| User: "WH" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Has Lowest Approval Rating in History |
16 Apr 2005 05:48:04 AM |
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Woodswun wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is
other
than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all
Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat
Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for
Ford.
The only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush
cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated
Kennedy
and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out
of
his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that
really
started the Cuban missile crisis,
Sheesh, you hate your own country much more than even I thought you
did.
The USSR had nuclear capable missiles in Cuba and you blame our
President? You're wacked out, and this proves it more than anything
else you have ever posted.
You are aware, aren't you, that Russia was attempting to place
missiles
in Cuba in response to our placement of missiles in Europe? You did
know that, right?
Come on pantyboy. Woods asked you a question here and you've avoided
it. Let's have your answer..chop chop..come on!
WH
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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14 Apr 2005 12:07:46 PM |
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wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
TheCO wrote:
It will be interesting to see how history judges the man, say 10
years from now. I know that the Democrats will never say he is other
than their worst nightmare, but then they say that about all
Republican Presidents, as do the Republicans about Democrat Presidents.
Well, I don't know about that. I have a very high regard for Ford.
The only ones I really have a problem with are the Reagan/Bush cabal,
Yet they got re-elected.
haven't had any problems with any of the other ones. Hated Kennedy
and Johnson.
Actually, I liked Kennedy.... Johnson struck me as completely out of
his element.
Kennedy was just as dangerous as Bush, IMHO. He's the one that really
started the Cuban missile crisis,
Sheesh, you hate your own country much more than even I thought you
did.
Hey Meathead, lacking confidence in your elected leaders is the opposite
of hating your country.
Ease up on knocking down your little straw men ... it's getting tedious.
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