Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
It should also be recognized that transference can exist outside the
analytic situation in relation to other people in the person's environment
or life space.
Now recall a few details of "Shrub" Bush's history. As the
first-born child, he spent much of his early childhood in an essentially
single parent home since his father was frequently away on extended
business trips. To exacerbate matters even more, he had a younger sister
who died of leukemia just two months shy of her fourth birthday when
"Shrub" was just seven years old. The sister's illness probably took up
much of the mother's time, energy, and emotional focus making her less
available to her other children. I also suspect that his mother may have
been reactively depressed during this arduous and traumatic period making
her even less emotionally available during a crucially important,
developmental period of "Shrub" Bush's life.
Indicative of the trauma Mrs. Bush endured, after the daughter's
death, her hair turned completely white while she was still in her
twenties.
Lack of parental availability typically leads to lack of
parent-child attunement. And lack of parent-child attunement often makes
for deficient empathic ability and a relative inability to identify with
others. Frequently, such youngsters become rule busters or rule breakers
as adults in the psychopathic sense. Clinicians who have studied
attachment have noted the similarities between the behavioral
manifestations of insecure attachment and disruptive behavior disorders.
Antisocial behavior is seen, in part, as a covert communication to an
unresponsive, emotionally distant parental figure. Perhaps this
perspective illuminates, in part, the dynamic of "Shrub" Bush's
unilateralism, his disavowal of treaties, and his seeming proclivity to
violate international law with impunity. It is as if he thinks rules do
not apply to him.
Myriam Miedzian in "Growing Up Is Hard To Do" (The Baltimore Sun, 12
September 2000) perspicaciously and presciently addresses the assertion
that "Shrub" Bush evidences "deficient empathic ability and a relative
inability to identify with others." She writes:
So when he was a kid, George W. enjoyed putting firecrackers into
frogs, throwing them in the air, and then watching them blow up. Should
this be cause for alarm? How relevant is a man's childhood behavior to
what he is like as an adult? And in this case, to what he would be like as
president of the United States?
Cruelty to animals is a common precursor to later criminal
violence. [In fact, the triad of cruelty to animals, fire setting, and
enuresis are symptoms typically found in the histories of serial killers!]
But in rural West Texas, where George W. grew up, it was not uncommon for
some boys to indulge in such cruelty.
His blowing up frogs or shooting them with BB guns with friends
does not have the same significance it would have if, for example, a city
boy blew up the family cat. In fact, George's childhood friend, Terry
Throckmorton, openly and laughingly admits, "We were terrible to animals."
But there were surely many boys in George's hometown of Midland,
Texas, who would have been repelled at the thought of blowing up frogs. So
how much importance should we attribute to this early behavior?
Is boy George's lack of empathy [italics mine] and cruelty not
just childhood insensitivity, but rather a personality trait still present
in the man? If so, we have much to be concerned about.
Last year. George W. Bush gave an interview to a Talk magazine
reporter about the execution of convicted Texas murderer Karla Faye
Tucker, who became a Christian after her incarceration. Mr. Bush chose to
mimic the late Karla Faye begging for mercy: "Please," Bush whimpers, his
lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me."
Gov. George H. Ryan of Illinois favors the death penalty but has
put a temporary moratorium on executions because of recent DNA evidence
exonerating a number of prisoners on death rows.
By contrast, Mr. Bush has chosen to go ahead with executions in
Texas, including that of Gary Graham, whose court-appointed attorney was
judicially admonished for sleeping through much of his trial. Mr. Bush's
much-vaunted religious conversion seems to have done little to encourage
Christian mercy.
Can this conservative be compassionate?
It takes a certain capacity for empathy [italics mine] for a man
born to wealth and social standing to imagine what it is like to live on a
$12,000 a year salary and be unable to afford proper medical treatment for
an ill child.
As president, Mr. Bush would undoubtedly continue to oppose
raising the minimum wage or providing health insurance for all American
children.
When it comes to foreign policy, Roger Fisher and William Ury of
the Harvard Negotiation Project and authors of "Getting to Yes," say that
"the ability to see the situation as the other side sees it... is one of
the most important skills a negotiator can posses [because] failing to
deal with others sensitively... can be disastrous as negotiation."
Tragically, few men in political power excel at these qualities
and many mistakes have been made in our foreign policy.
I shall never forget former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, who
played a major role in one of our greatest foreign policy mistakes - the
Vietnam War - speaking regretfully of errors he and others made during the
Cold War. In a 1988 interview, he told me that "the necessity of looking
at your actions through the eyes of your opponent - that is absolutely
fundamental, and we don't do that."
Do we really want a man who appears to be empathically challenged
[italics mine] to hold the most powerful position in America?
But even more salient, "Shrub" Bush's developmentally immature and
regressive obsession with Mr. Hussein seems to be part of an unfolding
Oedipal drama. For him, the goal is to "defeat" the idealized father who
"Shrub" was never able to measure up to and in whose footsteps "Shrub"
seems to have assiduously sought to tread by defeating and destroying Mr.
Hussein, someone his father was unable to vanquish. In this fashion, Mr.
Bush hopes to win the Oedipal battle. Or as a colleague who is a socially
committed, board certified psychiatrist, Dr. Carol Wolman, put it in
"Diagnosing Dubya: Is the President Nuts?": "Dubya may be acting out a
classical Oedipal drama - overcome Daddy to get Mommy. By deposing Saddam,
when his father did not, he may want to prove himself more worthy of his
mother's love. His rationale that he is avenging the [alleged]
assassination attempt on George, Sr., may be a reaction formation - his
way of hiding his true motive from himself." And I might add, to deny,
suppress, and repress his own ambivalence and hostility toward his father.
And so we are left with foreign policy as psychodrama, as well as
service to Israel and, as Nelson Mandela has pointed out, US oil interests
and the military industrial complex.
Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD, PD, PC, is a clinical
psychologist/psychotherapist. He has a PhD in Personality/Social
Psychology/Cultural Anthropology and the equivalent of a second PhD in
Clinical Psychology.
He has spent his professional life working with "underserved"
patients -- people of color, working class whites, and children and
adolescents -- in public settings and is currently in private practice.
http://www.cgjungpage.org/content/view/575/
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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18 Jun 2004 03:42:32 AM |
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RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
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| User: "RotoRooter" |
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18 Jun 2004 04:33:12 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
assertions.
BTW, how many of the Iraq prison torture photos do you have enlarged into
posters adorning your small trailer's walls?
Any family ties to Gen. Karpinski?
Hee, hee, hee...
RotoRooter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the truth hurts like hell!
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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18 Jun 2004 05:29:14 AM |
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RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite *****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the two.
This is what they call journalists, no wonder they got so many to believe that
the UN resolution was not final on Iraq. They are anti-US assholes,
journalists!!! There is no professional pride. They don't care to spread lies
tat can be verified by anyone who check what the commission said, because no one
will there, they will buy the lies as long as it cast a shadow on the US.
These are European journalists. not Islamic countries one,. they represent the
whole of Europe, and today they won't have a president because the one Chirac
and Shroeder want opposed the Iraq intervention. So it shows you that Europe is
not beyond hope. But the fucking assholes they have put there who they call
"journalists" for all of Europe are idiots. It explains a lot.
Anyway, nothing an idiot like you would understand anyway. Only one thing to
tell you personally: Go drown yourself, loser.
J.
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| User: "G." |
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19 Jun 2004 06:30:46 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the Saddam
regime. Bush himself is on record (last September) as saying his
administration found no evidence that Al Qaeda and Saddam were in cohoots.
Sure, its a popular theory among Americans, but beliefs don't count as
evidence, space cadet. Sounds like you're obsessing about your support of
the fading Bushmeat and his now unpopular war fiasco.
And you're trying hard to soothe your irritated soul. You supported a
bunch of fools, and unneeded warfare. Instead of trying to pin it on the
media, you should be sorry for all those who died and were maimed on both
sides in this idiotic war, and that includes Afghanistan, too.
This is what they call journalists, no wonder they got so many to
believe that
the UN resolution was not final on Iraq. They are anti-US assholes,
journalists!!! There is no professional pride. They don't care to spread
lies
tat can be verified by anyone who check what the commission said,
because no one
will there, they will buy the lies as long as it cast a shadow on the
US.
These are European journalists. not Islamic countries one,. they
represent the
whole of Europe, and today they won't have a president because the one
Chirac
and Shroeder want opposed the Iraq intervention. So it shows you that
Europe is
not beyond hope. But the fucking assholes they have put there who they
call
"journalists" for all of Europe are idiots. It explains a lot.
Anyway, nothing an idiot like you would understand anyway. Only one
thing to
tell you personally: Go drown yourself, loser.
AND THE REST OF YOUR MESSAGE is indecipherable so I won't bother to
respond. Cut down on the booze, Jeano.
G.
J.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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19 Jun 2004 02:35:52 PM |
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G. a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the Saddam
regime.
*****.
The commission has found numerous contacts occurred between Saddam's secret
police and Al Qaeda, dumbo.
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning of 9-11 or
not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't, they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
9-11 was probably all planned by Bin Laden. But doesn't mean that Saddam didn't
help Binny, he just didn't partake in this particular event, but to give him the
anthrax, most certainly. But they can't prove it, they did meet Atta in Prague,
but they don't know what occurred. Doesn't mean nothing occurred. DoN't mean
that it is not the most probable thing that occurred. IT ONLY MEAN THEY HAVE NO
PROOF BECAUSE THE TERRORISTS DIDN'T LEAVE ANY.
J.
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| User: "" |
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20 Jun 2004 11:43:21 AM |
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
G. a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the Saddam
regime.
*****.
The commission has found numerous contacts occurred between Saddam's secret
police and Al Qaeda, dumbo.
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning of 9-11 or
not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't, they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
9-11 was probably all planned by Bin Laden. But doesn't mean that Saddam didn't
help Binny, he just didn't partake in this particular event, but to give him the
anthrax, most certainly. But they can't prove it, they did meet Atta in Prague,
but they don't know what occurred. Doesn't mean nothing occurred. DoN't mean
that it is not the most probable thing that occurred. IT ONLY MEAN THEY HAVE NO
PROOF BECAUSE THE TERRORISTS DIDN'T LEAVE ANY.
J.
ROFLMAO!!!! You are such a loser FROG. Your crack induced world
probably glows a lime green hue at night dosen't it? Hahahahaha give
it up Guernon we all know what and who you are.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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19 Jun 2004 03:44:04 PM |
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this news:
G. a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the Saddam
regime.
*****.
The commission has found numerous contacts occurred between Saddam's secret
police and Al Qaeda, dumbo.
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning of 9-11 or
not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't, they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case, CAHOOTS
alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the faulty WMD data.
Also, could close to half of all Americans be wrong in believing Saddam was
behind or directly involved in 9-11? With numbers like that it's
practically a fact that Saddam was involved or directly responsible ( or in
CAHOOTS to quote the Commission ).
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20 Jun 2004 08:55:11 AM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android <marv@HeartOfGold.com> Spat the Words
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this
news:
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning
of 9-11 or not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't,
they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case,
CAHOOTS alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the
faulty WMD data.
Yeah, it's that whole CAHOOTS thing that's the real question.
Of course, we know all those 'evil-doers' are in CAHOOTS.
They're all 'evil-doers' and they all do evil, so they must
be in CAHOOTS. Saddam was CAVORTIN and CAHOOTIN with the
AlQaedans, it's sure as the day is long, and would I lie
to you?
Also, could close to half of all Americans be wrong in believing
Saddam was behind or directly involved in 9-11? With numbers like that
it's practically a fact that Saddam was involved or directly
responsible ( or in CAHOOTS to quote the Commission ).
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20 Jun 2004 11:50:38 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:55:11 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Marvin The Paranoid Android <marv@HeartOfGold.com> Spat the Words
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this
news:
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning
of 9-11 or not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't,
they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case,
CAHOOTS alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the
faulty WMD data.
Yeah, it's that whole CAHOOTS thing that's the real question.
Of course, we know all those 'evil-doers' are in CAHOOTS.
They're all 'evil-doers' and they all do evil, so they must
be in CAHOOTS. Saddam was CAVORTIN and CAHOOTIN with the
AlQaedans, it's sure as the day is long, and would I lie
to you?
Also, could close to half of all Americans be wrong in believing
Saddam was behind or directly involved in 9-11? With numbers like that
it's practically a fact that Saddam was involved or directly
responsible ( or in CAHOOTS to quote the Commission ).
Hahahahaha. Guess we better go to the woodpile and get a switch to
lick the tar out of those hillbillies that are in CAHOOTS eh?
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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20 Jun 2004 11:48:42 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:55:11 GMT, R. Foreman depressed me with this news:
Marvin The Paranoid Android <marv@HeartOfGold.com> Spat the Words
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this
news:
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning
of 9-11 or not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't,
they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case,
CAHOOTS alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the
faulty WMD data.
Yeah, it's that whole CAHOOTS thing that's the real question.
Of course, we know all those 'evil-doers' are in CAHOOTS.
They're all 'evil-doers' and they all do evil, so they must
be in CAHOOTS. Saddam was CAVORTIN and CAHOOTIN with the
AlQaedans, it's sure as the day is long, and would I lie
to you?
CAVORTIN'????
NUKE 'EM!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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20 Jun 2004 12:53:25 PM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android <marv@HeartOfGold.com> Spat the Words
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:55:11 GMT, R. Foreman depressed me with this
news:
Marvin The Paranoid Android <marv@HeartOfGold.com> Spat the Words
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this
news:
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning
of 9-11 or not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or
wasn't,
they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case,
CAHOOTS alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the
faulty WMD data.
Yeah, it's that whole CAHOOTS thing that's the real question.
Of course, we know all those 'evil-doers' are in CAHOOTS.
They're all 'evil-doers' and they all do evil, so they must
be in CAHOOTS. Saddam was CAVORTIN and CAHOOTIN with the
AlQaedans, it's sure as the day is long, and would I lie
to you?
CAVORTIN'????
CAVORTIN and ASNORTIN.
NUKE 'EM!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Bushmeat back on the couch |
22 Jun 2004 02:41:53 PM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this news:
G. a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the Saddam
regime.
*****.
The commission has found numerous contacts occurred between Saddam's secret
police and Al Qaeda, dumbo.
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning of 9-11 or
not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't, they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case, CAHOOTS
alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the faulty WMD data.
Also, could close to half of all Americans be wrong in believing Saddam was
behind or directly involved in 9-11? With numbers like that it's
practically a fact that Saddam was involved or directly responsible ( or in
CAHOOTS to quote the Commission ).
He was in cahoots with the terrorists, doesn't mean he planned that particular
operation. We know it was Binny who orchestrated 9-11 from his own tapes. Saddam
at most gave them the anthrax which they used very clumsingly as if they had not
really planned much about it... even if this merely the most probable sequence
of event, and nothing is proven.
Saddam was invaded because of what he planned and did against Kuwait, against
Israel, as the UN resolution warranted. But it would also have been about WMD if
the UNSCOM bioweapons inspector had not been German. Technically eh was in
breach of all the resolution. That is why he was invaded, not because of any
other reason.
The losers can pretend otherwise, it doesn't matter, it doesn't change the sad
reality.
J.
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| User: "Dr. Blunt" |
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| Title: Re: Bushmeat back on the couch |
23 Jun 2004 02:12:38 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this
news:
G. a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker,
and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but
pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks
like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the
theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US
anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the
9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam,
when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized
the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words
to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between
the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the
Saddam
regime.
*****.
The commission has found numerous contacts occurred between Saddam's
secret
police and Al Qaeda, dumbo.
Buy a fucking clue.
Contacts occur frequently between the CIA, State Dept., FBI and the Mafia,
as well as with dictatorial regimes, presently and historically. All that
proves is that they MET and discussed something. Show me the evidence that
they DECIDED on doing something together against the the USA. No, we don't
have those factual specifics, do they? Before Saddam was a dire enemy,
Def. Sec. Rumsfeld met with Saddam in 1983. What was discussed, or
decided? Huh, space fuzz?
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning
of 9-11 or
not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't, they don't
know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
Read the above, space fuzz. Doesn't prove they were planning anything, or
decided on anything. Just that they met and discussed something.
And, we have no moral right or strategic right to attack another nation if
we can't prove their culpable in a scheme against us, nor does any nation
have that right. How'd you like it if someone attacked you just on the
suspicion, or belief, you had intent to hurt them? You'd want to get back
at those suckers for the unnecessary harm they caused. Nope, it doesn't
jive with our judicial part of the Constitution or with the Geneva
Treaty...or with the New Testament teachings, just in case you're a Xtian.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case,
CAHOOTS
alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the faulty WMD
data.
Read the above, space fuzz.
Also, could close to half of all Americans be wrong in believing
Saddam was
behind or directly involved in 9-11? With numbers like that it's
practically a fact that Saddam was involved or directly responsible
( or in
CAHOOTS to quote the Commission ).
Are you drunk (again) or just merely stupid? Over 70% believe in angels,
too, but that doesn't make angels a fact...or any number of other majority
beliefs doesn't constitute evidence of something. And for a military
pre-emptive, unilateral attack on a nation, with many thousands dead and
maimed, we'd better be damned positive of our justification with hard
evidence, not beliefs, space fuzz.
He was in cahoots with the terrorists, doesn't mean he planned that
particular
operation. We know it was Binny who orchestrated 9-11 from his own
tapes. Saddam
at most gave them the anthrax which they used very clumsingly as if they
had not
really planned much about it... even if this merely the most probable
sequence
of event, and nothing is proven.
Based on the widespread American belief the Saudi government had something
to do with the 911 attacks, we should, based on your criteria for military
invasions, attack Saudi Arabia, remove its "evil" government, and occupy
and reconstruct it into something more cooperative (or more lucrative).
Bush had the Bin Ladens quickly flown out of the USA and back to their
homeland, without interrogation or investigation while they were
conveniently here. Now, does that sound like Bush and his monkeys are
really interested in getting at the "bad guys?" Nope, space fuzz.
Saddam was invaded because of what he planned and did against Kuwait,
against
Israel, as the UN resolution warranted. But it would also have been
about WMD if
the UNSCOM bioweapons inspector had not been German. Technically eh was
in
breach of all the resolution. That is why he was invaded, not because of
any
other reason.
Well, space fuzz, Daddy Warbucks Bush attacked Iraq for its invasion of
Kuwait and didn't want to, in his own words in his memoirs, remove Saddam
or occupy Iraq. He felt it could result in a regional disaster. Iraq was
already punished for its invasion of Kuwait, so Junior or the UN didn't
have to re-invade to bump up the score. Iraq was complying with UN
resolutions right up to the point that Bushmeat cut it short and invaded
March 19th last year. Go back and read the sequence of events as recorded
by the UN. Sure, Saddam delayed, but ultimately relented. And are you
saying that because German UN inspectors were present, that they were
siding with Saddam? What? Because they're German? Or, because you think
Germans are Nazis? Your remark shows extreme desperation, as well as
bigotry and paranoid fantasizing.
The losers can pretend otherwise, it doesn't matter, it doesn't change
the sad
reality.
J.
The sad reality is that there are foolish, fanatical people like yourself
who can't accept that leaders make horrible mistakes, lie like rugs, serve
themselves and their friends with "hidden agendas," don't give a *****
about human life wasted in their power/wealth schemes, ad nauseam.
Instead, you'll go down like rats on a sinking ship still munching on
their priveleged lying and scheming asses, biting at anyone who tries to
show you some truth. So, believe the *****, space fuzz, create your own
rationalizations for supporting it, and stick your silly, stupid head up
your *****, space fuzz. Hee, hee, hee...you're right about one thing
though, for you and the Bushmeat faithful any aspersions cast upon your
beloved leaders "doesn't matter." Believe what you want, and suffer the
consequences morally, and otherwise. Hee, hee, hee...
Dr. Blunt --------------------- Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since
1998.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Bushmeat back on the couch |
24 Jun 2004 01:45:53 PM |
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Dr. Blunt a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_NeCc.18040535$Id.2972733@news.easynews.com...
Dr. Blunt a écrit:
[snip]
You are a fraud. The question is not even in question here after all the
fraudulent stuff you have done here. Only one question: A slowlog fraud?
The rest of your comments below being utter total lies and excrement's,
I chose
to snip them.
J.
Continue to snip them all you want, [snip]
Well (not that I need your permission but), thank you very much.
J.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bushmeat back on the couch |
20 Jun 2004 11:48:06 AM |
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:44:04 -0400, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marv@HeartOfGold.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this news:
G. a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the Saddam
regime.
*****.
The commission has found numerous contacts occurred between Saddam's secret
police and Al Qaeda, dumbo.
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning of 9-11 or
not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't, they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case, CAHOOTS
alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the faulty WMD data.
It hasn't been proven that Binny and Sodomy were linked. That's just
Putin spouting off trying to get the idiot Bush re-elected. Russia has
a lot to gain by getting this imbicile re-elected.
Also, could close to half of all Americans be wrong in believing Saddam was
behind or directly involved in 9-11? With numbers like that it's
practically a fact that Saddam was involved or directly responsible ( or in
CAHOOTS to quote the Commission ).
The half of the Americans that believe this garbage are also
believers in the tooth fairy....nuff said. Hahahahah
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: knock knock zaakaass... who's there? Re: Bushmeat back on the couch |
22 Jun 2004 02:48:33 PM |
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a écrit:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:44:04 -0400, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marv@HeartOfGold.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:35:52 GMT, Jean Guernon depressed me with this news:
G. a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:_tzAc.17699955$Id.2921486@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like
a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite
*****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this
sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when
they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the
sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to
say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the
two.
HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUTER SPACE? The 911 Commission said they found NO
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of a link between Osama's Al Qaeda group and the Saddam
regime.
*****.
The commission has found numerous contacts occurred between Saddam's secret
police and Al Qaeda, dumbo.
Buy a fucking clue.
The only thing they don't KNOW is whether Saddam was in the planning of 9-11 or
not. They DON'T KNOW that. Doesn't mean he was, or wasn't, they don't know.
But THEY KNOW that they WERE in CAHOOTS. This is known fact.
I missed that part concerning CAHOOTS, but that being the case, CAHOOTS
alone is enough to justify the invasion, regardless of the faulty WMD data.
It hasn't been proven that Binny and Sodomy were linked.
Yes it has.
That's just
Putin spouting off trying to get the idiot Bush re-elected. Russia has
a lot to gain by getting this imbicile re-elected.
Hahaha, yeah, right, Putin is making this up so that Bush gets reelected, jeez
Zaakaasss, you are losing it more and more... LOL
Maybe you should call it quit before you start seeing Binny pushing for Bush
reelection... oh but wait, you ALREADY do! Forgot... it is one of your crazy
braindiseased theories. Hahaha
Delirium tremens is knocking at your door, zaakaasss, will you open or just
simply go and drown yourself.
J.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: Bushmeat back on the couch |
21 Jun 2004 02:16:59 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:29:14 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
RotoRooter a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:YVxAc.17695640$Id.2920829@news.easynews.com...
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and
liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
It's merely conjecture on your part that it's propaganda. Looks like a
simple case of psychological theory to me. If you can prove the theory
advanced as *****, then offer up your evidence to refute its
You are crazy.
You make up lies.
Then you believe them, exactly like the rest of the anti-US anti-semite *****
you spread.
This shows that you are an extreme case of this sickness.
But I was looking at today's European news. They are ill from this sickness too.
They are fucking journalist, yet this morning they pretend that the 9-11
commission said that there were no link between AlQaeda and Saddam, when they
said there were many links, just no evidence that Saddam organized the sequence
of 9-11 with them. that is all they say. Well, they use Bush words to say he is
lying and that the commission said there were no link at all between the two.
This is what they call journalists, no wonder they got so many to believe that
the UN resolution was not final on Iraq. They are anti-US assholes,
journalists!!! There is no professional pride. They don't care to spread lies
tat can be verified by anyone who check what the commission said, because no one
will there, they will buy the lies as long as it cast a shadow on the US.
These are European journalists. not Islamic countries one,. they represent the
whole of Europe, and today they won't have a president because the one Chirac
and Shroeder want opposed the Iraq intervention. So it shows you that Europe is
not beyond hope. But the fucking assholes they have put there who they call
"journalists" for all of Europe are idiots. It explains a lot.
Anyway, nothing an idiot like you would understand anyway. Only one thing to
tell you personally: Go drown yourself, loser.
J.
spurious ramblings of a psychotic megalomaniac.
"Norman!"
"Yes mother?"
= or =
"Jean!"
"Yes Pres. Bush?"
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bushmeat back on the couch |
18 Jun 2004 07:25:42 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:42:32 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
RotoRooter a écrit:
Bush's Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein
Written by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD
Now that you show you are a desperate anti-semite anti-US sucker, and liar, The
more ***** you post, the more it shows you really have nothing but pure
propaganda *****.
Much like dorkshyte zaakaasss finally...
Any family ties?
J.
Holy ***** FROG, are you that obsessed with tose pond scum Americans?
Get a brain would you asswipe!
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