Century 6 - Quatrain 13:
A doubtful one will not come far from the realm,
The greater part will want to uphold him:
A Capitol will not want him to reign at all,
He will be unable to bear his great burden.
1. A doubtful one = an intellectually lightweight George W. Bush?
Did he really win in Florida in 2000, or was Al Gore cheated out of
the popular vote in Florida by shady tactics?
2. The greater part will want to uphold him = the American people
rallying around their new president after 9/11?
3. A Capitol will not want him to reign at all = right wing elements
of the Republican Party, or those behind the scenes (Rove and the
neo-cons) that may have put Bush into office to be their rehearsed
puppet spokesman for their agenda? Will Bush rebel against his own
handlers in his second term, and will they turn against him?
4. He will be unable to bear his great burden = a nervous breakdown or
health problem coming from the overwhelming pressures put upon a
basically good, yet emotionally and intellectually immature man?
Based on comments made by Hogue: http://hogueprophecy.com/archiv14.htm
Is Hogue on to something here, or is he way off?
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: C6 Q13 - A doubtful one = George W. Bush? |
07 Nov 2004 07:34:37 PM |
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In article <cg6to0tldsu2acsg50ctb9gd9u3tt0flpr@4ax.com>, Lone Ranger <snowball2002@bigfoot.com.spamalamadingdong> wrote:
Century 6 - Quatrain 13:
A doubtful one will not come far from the realm,
The greater part will want to uphold him:
A Capitol will not want him to reign at all,
He will be unable to bear his great burden.
1. A doubtful one = an intellectually lightweight George W. Bush?
Did he really win in Florida in 2000, or was Al Gore cheated out of
the popular vote in Florida by shady tactics?
2. The greater part will want to uphold him = the American people
rallying around their new president after 9/11?
3. A Capitol will not want him to reign at all = right wing elements
of the Republican Party, or those behind the scenes (Rove and the
neo-cons) that may have put Bush into office to be their rehearsed
puppet spokesman for their agenda? Will Bush rebel against his own
handlers in his second term, and will they turn against him?
4. He will be unable to bear his great burden = a nervous breakdown or
health problem coming from the overwhelming pressures put upon a
basically good, yet emotionally and intellectually immature man?
Based on comments made by Hogue: http://hogueprophecy.com/archiv14.htm
Is Hogue on to something here, or is he way off?
I've never known Hogue to be anything *but* way off.
Woods
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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| Title: Re: C6 Q13 - A doubtful one = George W. Bush? |
08 Nov 2004 04:43:22 PM |
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(Woodswun) wrote in message news:<N2Ajd.48877$JS4.24598@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <cg6to0tldsu2acsg50ctb9gd9u3tt0flpr@4ax.com>, Lone Ranger <snowball2002@bigfoot.com.spamalamadingdong> wrote:
Century 6 - Quatrain 13:
A doubtful one will not come far from the realm,
The greater part will want to uphold him:
A Capitol will not want him to reign at all,
He will be unable to bear his great burden.
1. A doubtful one = an intellectually lightweight George W. Bush?
Did he really win in Florida in 2000, or was Al Gore cheated out of
the popular vote in Florida by shady tactics?
2. The greater part will want to uphold him = the American people
rallying around their new president after 9/11?
3. A Capitol will not want him to reign at all = right wing elements
of the Republican Party, or those behind the scenes (Rove and the
neo-cons) that may have put Bush into office to be their rehearsed
puppet spokesman for their agenda? Will Bush rebel against his own
handlers in his second term, and will they turn against him?
4. He will be unable to bear his great burden = a nervous breakdown or
health problem coming from the overwhelming pressures put upon a
basically good, yet emotionally and intellectually immature man?
Based on comments made by Hogue: http://hogueprophecy.com/archiv14.htm
Is Hogue on to something here, or is he way off?
I've never known Hogue to be anything *but* way off.
Woods
If one puts H Roberts take of 1947 and updated by his son, next to
Hogues, well it has hardly advanced much for the 30+ years since in
fact a rather ordinary attempt, is it, or is it not, and scatter gun
approach, as well as these hypotheses he has but does not apply.
But he did dare to take up the Randi 10.
LB
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| User: "christisnotdore" |
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| Title: Re: C6 Q13 - A doubtful one = George W. Bush? |
09 Nov 2004 06:17:07 PM |
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(Woodswun) wrote in message news:<N2Ajd.48877$JS4.24598@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <cg6to0tldsu2acsg50ctb9gd9u3tt0flpr@4ax.com>, Lone Ranger <snowball2002@bigfoot.com.spamalamadingdong> wrote:
Century 6 - Quatrain 13:
A doubtful one will not come far from the realm,
The greater part will want to uphold him:
A Capitol will not want him to reign at all,
He will be unable to bear his great burden.
1. A doubtful one = an intellectually lightweight George W. Bush?
Did he really win in Florida in 2000, or was Al Gore cheated out of
the popular vote in Florida by shady tactics?
2. The greater part will want to uphold him = the American people
rallying around their new president after 9/11?
3. A Capitol will not want him to reign at all = right wing elements
of the Republican Party, or those behind the scenes (Rove and the
neo-cons) that may have put Bush into office to be their rehearsed
puppet spokesman for their agenda? Will Bush rebel against his own
handlers in his second term, and will they turn against him?
4. He will be unable to bear his great burden = a nervous breakdown or
health problem coming from the overwhelming pressures put upon a
basically good, yet emotionally and intellectually immature man?
Based on comments made by Hogue: http://hogueprophecy.com/archiv14.htm
Is Hogue on to something here, or is he way off?
I've never known Hogue to be anything *but* way off.
Unwritten rule: high profile seers will have terrible averages about
really important (in a global sense) predictions since they could
affect many people. Some very gifted psychics are afraid even to make
sports predictions in public. My opinion after studying several
experts.
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| User: "Claude Latremouille" |
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| Title: Re: C6 Q13 - A doubtful one = George W. Bush? |
07 Nov 2004 06:33:34 PM |
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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:56:45 +0100, Lone Ranger
<snowball2002@bigfoot.com.spamalamadingdong> wrote about:
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Century 6 - Quatrain 13:
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------------ C E N T V R I E___S I X S I E S M E. ------------
----------------- (édition de novembre 1557) -----------------
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---------------------------- X I I I -------------------------
--------- Vn dubieux ne viendra loing du regne, --------------
--------- La plus grand part le vouldra soustenir: -----------
--------- Vn capitole ne vouldra point qu'il regne, ----------
--------- Sa grande charge ne pourra maintenir. --------------
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I know, I know, he did not quote what Nostradamus wrote, and
that's the problem. For instance, the expression "Vn dubieux"
cannot be translated into English unless one is certain of what
it means. One cannot be certain of that, as the word "dubieux"
does not exist in French. It only exists in English (dubious). As
it comes from the Latin (dubiosus), it can only be guessed at.
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"Vn dubieux", could be a man who doubts.
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"Vn dubieux", could also be a man about whom one has doubts.
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So, to translate it as...
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A doubtful one will not come far from the realm,
The greater part will want to uphold him:
A Capitol will not want him to reign at all,
He will be unable to bear his great burden.
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....misses the point. And the rest of the poem is equally poorly
translated.
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At the end, you ask:
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Is Hogue on to something here, or is he way off?
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Depends when Hogue wrote the above. If he wrote it before August
9, 1974, well, he could not be blamed for missing the boat. If he
wrote it since, he is not very smart. Why? Because on August 9,
1974, the entire world got the answer to this riddle. So, let's
work it out:
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LINE 3 -- Vn capitole ne vouldra point qu'il regne, ----------
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The US Congress had already begun the process leading to the
impeachment of a US President. The US Congress is housed in a
Capitole, which is a requirement for line 3 of the poem.
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LINE 2 -- La plus grand part le vouldra soustenir: -----------
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That one was a puzzle: how can a man on the verge of being
impeached possibly receive the support of a great majority?
Answer: Take a historical look at this President. Did ne not
receive the greatest popular vote, in the 1972 elections? Yes, he
did. So, line 2 makes sense after all.
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LINE 1 -- Vn dubieux ne viendra loing du regne, --------------
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If this President is actually ruling, how can one say that he
shall come very close to... ruling? Answer: Take another
historical look at his political life. In 1960, he was beaten by
a nose, in his contest against John F. Kennedy. So, line 1 makes
some sense.
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How about this 'dubious'? Answer: Considering that this President
was beaten by a Catholic, a faith which does not allow for doubt,
whereas Protestantism does allow for doubt, this is Nostradamus'
way of pointing to the religion of the victor, by pointing to the
religion of the defeated one. Clever, eh?!
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So, putting two and two together, we come to line 4, as usual,
the punch line:
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LINE 4 -- Sa grande charge ne pourra maintenir. --------------
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His great office he shall be unable to keep. Correct. Before
resigning, Richard M. Nixon made a speech in which he states that
he no longer enjoys the support of enough people in Congress to
be able to continue. So, the guy who says of himself 'I am not a
quitter' does exactly that: he quits, not without stating that he
does not want to leave, but that he cannot stay. And Nostradamus
gets the point, using the very same word 'ne pourra maintenir',
and not 'ne vouldra maintenir'
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You may tell Hogue that he should not touch Nostradamus' texts
with a ten-foot pole... unless he were to start learning French.
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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