Nostradamus and the two tsunami's
Sumatra and New Orleans (Katrina)
As posted earlier, Nostradamus wrote nearly 500 years ago, that when the
five "naked eye planets" were visible together in the night or morning sky -
together with the full moon - that a mighty earthquake would strike Southern
Asia.
In late December 2004, Mars, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn were visible
in the early morning sky.
The full moon fell on December 26th, 2004.
The earthquake and tsunami occurred in Southern Asia on December 26th, 2004.
Nostradamus also wrote that when a horrible war was being prepared in the
West, that "the pestilence" would begin the following year.
The WEST invaded Iraq in 2003, and the tsunami struck Sumatra in 2004 (the
following year).
Nostradamus also wrote in a prophecy numbered: C9,Q48:
The great city of the maritime Ocean,
Surrounded by a crystalline swamp:
In the winter solstice and in the prime,
It will be tried by a frightful wind.
What is Nostradamus telling us in this prophecy?
Why does Nostradamus use the term "maritime Ocean"?
A maritime city - by definition is - "by the sea".
A great city of the ocean is by analogy "by the sea" and is already a
"maritime" city.
This great city (that Nostradamus warns about) is "twice maritime".
A great city of the Ocean that is "maritime".. is a great port city that is
"adjacent the sea" - but not on it.
This Ocean city that is "maritime" or "adjacent to the sea" is on an Inlet,
Bay or --> GULF.
Then Nostradamus tells us that this port city that is adjacent to the Sea
is...
"Surrounded by a crystalline swamp"... or still WATER appearing like
reflective glass.
What did the live news coverage, broadcast in bright sunlight, from overhead
in news helicopters make the flood waters appear as?
As sheet of glass.
Ever hear the phrase "the water is as smooth as glass"?
Glass = crystal.
Then Nostradamus gives us two dates for these events...
"In the winter solstice and the prime".
the Winter solstice fell on December 21st.
The Tsunami fell on December 26th.
Most interpretors of Nostradamus equate the "prime" with Spring. Prime is
actually defined "first".
The Prime, or the Catholic Liturgical Prime, is the "first hour" of worship
and is from 6:00am to 7:00 am.
The hurricane eye wall and "storm surge" hit New Orleans at 6:10 am.
EXACTLY at the PRIME, as Nostradamus foretold.
The Frightful wind that would "try" New Orleans is the catagory five
hurricane Katrina.
Nostradamus also wrote that when "Northern Italy was Olympic", there would
be a major catastrophe in Europe... another flood approaches.
In another prophecy Nostradamus warned - that something even greater than
these two tsunami's would occur between April and March.
The end of September, at the end of Virgo, is exactly "between" these two
dates.
Nostradamus also wrote a cryptic warning preceded by what many thought was
some kind of "astrology" - but obviously - is not.
This cryptic warning included: "Aries, Taurus, Cancer, Leo, Virgo".
This sequential warning (or countdown) should have been recognized not as
astrological signs, but as:
"March, April, May, June, July, August, September".
A countdown.
VIRGO. (August 23 - September 22)
C9,Q9
When the lamp burning with inextinguishable fire
Will be found in the temple of the Vestals:
Child to get fire, water passing through the sieve:
To perish in water Nimes, Toulouse the markets to fall.
Lines 1 & 2...
"When the sun is in Virgo".
Line 3...
"child to get fire"... (Luke 12:49)
"I came to bring fire to the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled!
I have a baptism to be baptized with; and what stress I am under until it is
completed".
What else does Nostradamus say about Virgo?
What does Nostradamus say about the "twentieth of Taurus"?
The constellation Taurus is directly overhead at midnight on the 20th of
September.
They have eyes and do not see.
JIM
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| User: "Claude Latremouille" |
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| Title: Re: C9,Q48; the two tsunami's - Katrina & Sumatra |
11 Sep 2005 10:08:24 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:35:47 -0600, "Jimgem3015" <Jimgem3015@comcast.com>
wrote in part about quatrain IX-48:
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-------------------- C E N T V R I E___I X. ------------------
----------------- (édition prétendue de 1568) ----------------
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------------------------ X L V I I I. ------------------------
--------- La grand cité d'occean maritime, -------------------
--------- Enuironnee de maretz en cristal: -------------------
--------- Dans le solstice hyemal & la prime, ----------------
--------- Sera temptee de vent espouuental. ------------------
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What is Nostradamus telling us in this prophecy?
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A good question. One can answer with certainty that the text is
sufficiently vague to appear to refer to many different events in
many different places.
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Why does Nostradamus use the term "maritime Ocean"?
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Actually, he does not write in English, so your quote is
incorrect. But it is a reasonable translation.
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A maritime city - by definition is - "by the sea".
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Yes, by definition. But Nostradamus is a very tricky guy.
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A great city of the ocean is by analogy "by the sea" and is already a
"maritime" city.
This great city (that Nostradamus warns about) is "twice maritime".
A great city of the Ocean that is "maritime".. is a great port city that is
"adjacent the sea" - but not on it.
This Ocean city that is "maritime" or "adjacent to the sea" is on an Inlet,
Bay or --> GULF.
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As in Gulf of Mexico? Hmmm, methinks you want to read into it
what you want to find. As I have noted, Nostradamus is a very
tricky guy. Let's play his game, shall we?
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A city by the sea is often bordered by a sandy beach, allowing
her citizens to enjoy the sea close to home. You might be
interested to learn that -- over the last few years -- the Paris
authorities have created along the quays of the Seine a temporary
artificial beach which allows during part of the Summer the good
people of Paris to pretend that they are near the sea, where the
children can play in the sand, where their parents can relax in
the Sun on their "chaise longue", in a word, a situation called
"Paris plage".
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So, even though Paris is definitely not on the sea or adjacent to
the sea, for Nostradamus to call Paris a great maritime city is
not entirely ridiculous.
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How do we know that he is referring to Paris? We don't, unless we
read the balance of the poem.
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Then Nostradamus gives us two dates for these events...
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No, he does not. He gives us the period of the year during which
this event happens, and the time of day when this event happens.
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"In the winter solstice and the prime".
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So he tells us that it happens near the Winter Solstice and at 6
a.m.
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What is the event? A frightening wind storm.
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When did a very strong wind storm hit Paris? On December 26,
1999, at about 7 a.m. Paris time, 6 a.m. solar time.
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Why would Nostradamus be interested in such a storm? Because it
causes damage to 'his' church, NOTRE-DAME of Paris. Because it
happens on December 26, a date he wants us to remember. Because
it happens along the path of totality followed by the August 11,
1999, solar eclipse.
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The remainder of your post is a perfect example of HOW NOT TO
interpret Nostradamus. Your recipe? You take what you like and
discard what you don't like. Nostradamus à la carte!
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the Winter solstice fell on December 21st.
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Most years it does, yes, or on the 22nd.
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The Tsunami fell on December 26th.
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True, but there is no tsunami in this quatrain. A wind storm is
the meteorological event, not a gigantic wave generated by an
earthquake.
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Most interpretors of Nostradamus equate the "prime" with Spring.
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Yes, and they are idiots.
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Prime is
actually defined "first".
The Prime, or the Catholic Liturgical Prime, is the "first hour" of worship
and is from 6:00am to 7:00 am.
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Back to your à la carte menu:
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The hurricane eye wall and "storm surge" hit New Orleans at 6:10 am.
EXACTLY at the PRIME, as Nostradamus foretold.
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Perhaps, but not at or near the Winter Solstice.
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So your explanation fails on the basis that hurricane Katrina did
not and cannot happen in the Winter, as the hurricane season is
in the Summer.
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To summarize: A great city (Paris), whose river Seine flows into
the sea, whose shores are surrounded by glass buildings, near the
Winter Solstice, and in the early morning, shall be frightened by
an unusually strong wind storm.
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It happened on December 26, 1999, at 6 a.m. (solar time) in
Paris. The path of that storm followed closely the path of the
total eclipse of the Sun of August 11, 1999. The name given by
meteorologists to that storm was Lothar.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
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C L A U D E L A T R E M O U I L L E
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| Title: Re: C9,Q48; the two tsunami's - Katrina & Sumatra |
11 Sep 2005 05:26:42 PM |
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The mere fact that nothing significant is related to the hypothese of
erstwhile stretcher posting his usual dodgy take, seems as always to
have eluded his notion, he does however get Europe, but not with
anything related.
Delores is still your aim dearie in the worst methodology dept, but
you are but a whisker behind.
LB
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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| Title: Re: C9,Q48; the two tsunami's - Katrina & Sumatra |
10 Sep 2005 02:46:57 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Jimgem3015"
<Jimgem3015@comcast.com> scribed:
Nostradamus and the two tsunami's
Sumatra and New Orleans (Katrina)
A) Nostradamus DID NOT predict any tsunamis, and
B) New Orleans DID NOT suffer a tsunami.
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| User: "Jimgem3015" |
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| Title: Re: C9,Q48; the two tsunami's - Katrina & Sumatra |
11 Sep 2005 02:05:25 PM |
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"Never anonymous Bud" <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
news:cvd6i1pneonbathr6hpg71q2kg8h7chb1u@4ax.com...
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Jimgem3015"
<Jimgem3015@comcast.com> scribed:
Nostradamus and the two tsunami's
Sumatra and New Orleans (Katrina)
A) Nostradamus DID NOT predict any tsunamis, and
B) New Orleans DID NOT suffer a tsunami.
C9,Q55
The horrible war which is being prepared in the West,
The following year the pestilence
So very horrible that young, old, nor beast,
Blood, fire Mercury, Mars, Jupiter in France.
Fire Mercury = "child to get fire": C9,Q48 & Luke 12:49
C3,Q3
Mars and Mercury, and the silver assembled,
Towards the south extreme dryness:
In the depths of Asia one will say the earth trembles,
Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity.
Silvery Moon = Full moon.
Mars and Mercury in Sagittarius = Late Dec.
C2,Q65
The sloping park great calamity
To be done through Hesperia and Insubria:
The fire in the ship, plague and captivity,
Mercury in Sagittarius Saturn will fade.
Incline Park; Lake Tahoe, California. 50 miles from Mammoth Mountain, with
its seeping carbon monocide, and expanding volcanicdome.
Mercury in December, the evil will fade.
But not for long.
C4,Q28
When Venus will be covered by the Sun,
Under the splendor will be a hidden form:
Mercury will have exposed them to the fire,
Through warlike noise it will be insulted.
When Christians (Sun) are in Muslim (Venus) countries.
I.E. Venus holds all of North Africa.
C4,Q33
Jupiter joined more to Venus than to the Moon,
Appearing in white fulness:
Venus hidden under the whiteness of Neptune
Struck by Mars through the white stew.
Full Moon.
Venus hidden under the sea waves.
The white stew caused by shaking.
Mercury, Mars, Full Moon, December, Earthquake, Tsunami.
They have eyes and do not see.
C2
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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11 Sep 2005 04:01:40 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Jimgem3015"
<Jimgem3015@comcast.com> scribed:
C9,Q55
The horrible war which is being prepared in the West,
The following year the pestilence
So very horrible that young, old, nor beast,
Blood, fire Mercury, Mars, Jupiter in France.
Fire Mercury = "child to get fire": C9,Q48 & Luke 12:49
A) Has nothing to do with the U.S. or our current 'war', and
B) There's NOTHING pointing to 'child' in that quatrain.
C3,Q3
Mars and Mercury, and the silver assembled,
Towards the south extreme dryness:
In the depths of Asia one will say the earth trembles,
Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity.
Silvery Moon = Full moon.
Mars and Mercury in Sagittarius = Late Dec.
Has nothing to do with the U.S., or anything recent.
(there is a full Moon EVERY month, every year!)
C2,Q65
The sloping park great calamity
To be done through Hesperia and Insubria:
The fire in the ship, plague and captivity,
Mercury in Sagittarius Saturn will fade.
Incline Park; Lake Tahoe, California. 50 miles from Mammoth Mountain, with
its seeping carbon monocide, and expanding volcanic dome.
Mercury in December, the evil will fade.
But not for long.
Nothing to do with Lake Tahoe or any other U.S. location,
or any recent event.
And Lake Tahoe is NOT close to Mammoth LAKES (not mountain)
(over 100 miles) which is an old super-volcano caldera.
The now-dismissed 'bulge' in California was in Palmdale,
on the San Andreas fault, which is FAR away, and not volcanic
at all.
C4,Q28
When Venus will be covered by the Sun,
Under the splendor will be a hidden form:
Mercury will have exposed them to the fire,
Through warlike noise it will be insulted.
When Christians (Sun) are in Muslim (Venus) countries.
I.E. Venus holds all of North Africa.
Not even the LEAST bit close of an interpretation,
or having anything to do with the U.S..
And Christians are NOT 'the Sun',
though most DO believe the world revolves around them.
C4,Q33
Jupiter joined more to Venus than to the Moon,
Appearing in white fulness:
Venus hidden under the whiteness of Neptune
Struck by Mars through the white stew.
Full Moon.
Venus hidden under the sea waves.
The white stew caused by shaking.
Nothing to do with the U.S., or any recent event.
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| User: "Jimgem3015" |
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12 Sep 2005 09:14:59 PM |
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"Never anonymous Bud" <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
news:7969i15m6db1d3pibjk2v3bsmofsksirmn@4ax.com...
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Jimgem3015"
<Jimgem3015@comcast.com> scribed:
C2,Q65
The sloping park great calamity
To be done through Hesperia and Insubria:
The fire in the ship, plague and captivity,
Mercury in Sagittarius Saturn will fade.
Incline Park; Lake Tahoe, California. 50 miles from Mammoth Mountain, with
its seeping carbon monocide, and expanding volcanic dome.
Mercury in December, the evil will fade.
But not for long.
Nothing to do with Lake Tahoe or any other U.S. location,
or any recent event.
And Lake Tahoe is NOT close to Mammoth LAKES (not mountain)
(over 100 miles) which is an old super-volcano caldera.
The now-dismissed 'bulge' in California was in Palmdale,
WRONG BUD...
on the San Andreas fault, which is FAR away, and not volcanic
at all.
HEY THIS BUDS FOR YOU ....
You're right. I said 50 miles. Mammoth Mountain is 100 miles from Lake
Tahoe.
100 miles is not much when talking geologic influences:
AND you're wrong about Mammoth Mountain.
http://lvo.wr.usgs.gov/gallery/MapGallery.html
will take everyone to a web site that covers the volcanic activity on
Mammoth Mountain, a WHOPPING 100 miles from:
"Lake Tahoe - Navada State Park"
P.O. Box 8867,
INCLINE VILLAGE, NV 89452
LAKE TAHOE STATE PARK @ INCLINE VILLAGE = (INCLINE PARK)...Look up the
fault lines that run through this area. Doesn't one run from there to San
Francisco?
Incline Park just might be in the USA.
Hesperia = the west.
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| User: "The Other Guy" |
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11 Sep 2005 01:12:13 AM |
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But Nostradamus did make specific reference to the alignment of the planets bringing about
tumultuous times (again).
Even you can't argue that one BUD !!! (let me re-phrase that "any person with a sense of
logical can't argue that one." - I guess that excludes you BUD.)
:-)
"Never anonymous Bud" wrote in message
Using a finger dipped in purple ink,
"Jimgem3015" scribed:
Nostradamus and the two tsunami's
Sumatra and New Orleans (Katrina)
A) Nostradamus DID NOT predict any tsunamis, and
B) New Orleans DID NOT suffer a tsunami.
--
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| User: "" |
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10 Sep 2005 04:06:56 PM |
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You go to great lengths to prove your point, your reference is slight,
taking elements from other Q's to make a match, is less than a
scholarly approach, have you thought of Dog whistling as a career?
Those with a clue, know it is only relevant or significant to
Nostradamus if he has written of it, and he clearly has not. Do you
have an identity problem to try and put yourself centre stage in most
Q's?
LB
Could not see the wood, for the trees!
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| User: "Jimgem3015" |
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11 Sep 2005 02:30:02 PM |
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<leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:1126386416.850391.247510@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
You go to great lengths to prove your point, your reference is slight,
taking elements from other Q's to make a match, is less than a
scholarly approach, have you thought of Dog whistling as a career?
Those with a clue, know it is only relevant or significant to
Nostradamus if he has written of it, and he clearly has not. Do you
have an identity problem to try and put yourself centre stage in most
Q's?
LB
Could not see the wood, for the trees!
Geeze, if Nostradamus was actually a prophet, what does that have to say
about Mohammed and his claim to being the last prophet?
Are you a Muslim?
Doesn't Jesus say; "I am the first and the last"?
Do you really?
I don't think so.
Yeah?
Well, denial is a part of Islam.
Yeah I have.
You?
Sura 2:106
Such of our revelations as we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, we bring in
its place a better one, or like thereof. Knowist thou not that Allah is able
to do all things?
This also hides intructive conflicts, errors, mistakes...and allows Mohammed
to "change horses in the middle of the stream".
It matters not.
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| User: "" |
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11 Sep 2005 05:15:56 PM |
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Here we go more propaganda, you know one is in trouble when other
prophets are cobbled to the one you are to vindicate through erroneous
means (first mistake)
Geeze, if Nostradamus was actually a prophet, what does that have to
say
about Mohammed and his claim to being the last prophet?
Are you a Muslim?
Which deity I claim as mine is irrelevant
Doesn't Jesus say; "I am the first and the last"?
Funny I thought that was God;s handle "Alph/ome"
Do you really? I don't think so.
Yeah?
Well, denial is a part of Islam.
And no doubt half blind psuedo christians!
Yeah I have.
You?
Sura 2:106
Such of our revelations as we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, we
bring in
its place a better one, or like thereof. Knowist thou not that Allah is
able
to do all things?
This also hides intructive conflicts, errors, mistakes...and allows
Mohammed
to "change horses in the middle of the stream".
Any lawyer will tell you that, and any person who wants to justify his
actions no matter how reprehensible they are.
It matters not.
Hey I found your patron saint, the learned Nostradamus thou and Claudie
etc followest
http://ozarkmt.com/prophecies.htm
See the BS you promulgate, and more by a real Xpert!
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