Leigh_Bee a écrit:

jimgem3015@aol.com (JimGem3015) wrote in message news:<20040219160317.20206.00000013@mb-m27.aol.com>...

Cen.9, Qua.1 Clinton's "One-eyed Monster".

French:
Dans la maison du traducteur de Bourc,
Seront les letters trouvees sur la table,
Borgne, roux, blanc, chenu tiendra de cours,
Qui changera au nouveau Connetable.

English:
In the house of the translator by scholarship,
The letters will be found on the table,
One eyed, reddish, white, hoary-headed will hold the course,
Which will change for the new Constable.

House = White House.

SNIP
If you use Leoni perhaps you should include his commentary:

CIXQ 1. Another of the very specific and yet obscure variety. One of
the best known of the 16th-century scholars engaged in translations of
the classics was Etienne de la Boetie (15,30-63), the intimate friend
of Montaigne, who was mixed up in a fracas with Anne de SNIP

Indeed "connétable" is in the Harraps: [kCnetabl] nm Hist High Constable"

Funny that you get up to Louis XIII but do not see that this quatrain is about
the other favorites who betrayed him, Cinq-Mars and Thou, and that Richelieu was
more the real connetable after the death of Luynes (1621), when Louis XIII had
decided to rule over France with only Brûlart de Sillery and his son, the
marquis (?) de Puisieux, as well as with La Vieuville. Marie de Medicis
convinces him to take Richelieu who focusses mainly (although not totally
exclusively) on military affairs. (She wanted to regain the influence she once
had. Although in the end it would not work out that way.) Anyway, in short, this
quatrain was about this epoch, Cinq-Mars for instance, incidentally, was red
headed, to mention one of the four described in one line. This indeed is about
this era of Louis XIII, before Mazarrin. But I won't elaborate further here, you
think also that the quatrain is about some past events, but to express my
surprise to see that you would think that any quatrain can be unfulfilled
prophecies. Sorry to see that. Don't you think it is takes away the power of the
prophecies, not to mention the interest in the Seer, to adopt this (almost a
Lemesurier's) point of view?

J.

LB

Leigh_Bee a écrit:

jimgem3015@aol.com (JimGem3015) wrote in message
news:<20040219160317.20206.00000013@mb-m27.aol.com>...

Cen.9, Qua.1 Clinton's "One-eyed Monster".

French:
Dans la maison du traducteur de Bourc,
Seront les letters trouvees sur la table,
Borgne, roux, blanc, chenu tiendra de cours,
Qui changera au nouveau Connetable.

English:
In the house of the translator by scholarship,
The letters will be found on the table,
One eyed, reddish, white, hoary-headed will hold the course,
Which will change for the new Constable.

House = White House.

SNIP
If you use Leoni perhaps you should include his commentary:

CIXQ 1. Another of the very specific and yet obscure variety. One of
the best known of the 16th-century scholars engaged in translations of
the classics was Etienne de la Boetie (15,30-63), the intimate friend
of Montaigne, who was mixed up in a fracas with Anne de Montmorency,
Constable of France (the chief of France's armed forces). The tyranny
of the Constable in suppressing rebellion at Bordeaux had inspired the
precocious La Boetie in 1548 to write La servitude volontaire or
Contr'un. Though not published till 1570, it had a wide circulation in
manuscript, and has since become one of the sacred scriptures of
democracy (in English translation it is entitled Anti-Dictator). Our
prophet made use of the title (or perhaps it's coincidence) in the
Epistle (para. 30). Montmorency had been Constable since 1538 and
apparently Nostradamus foresaw that the unwonted forbearance that
Montmorency had shown the eighteen-year-old idealist would not be
maintained by Montmorency's successor (possibly foreseen by
Nostradamus as Anne's zealous son Henry bent on avenging the insult to
the family honor). As it happened, Montmorency held his post till his
death in 1567 (though his powers were largely given to the more able
Guise with the title "Lieutenant General of the Realm"). Thereafter
only three other men received the title Constable: Henry de
Montmorency (his son) in 1593 (he to whom the Sixains were dedicated,
also the father of the alleged subject of one of Nostradamus' most
famous quatrains-918); Charles de Luynes, the favorite of Louis XIII,
in 1621, just before his death; and finally, in 1622, the
near-octogenerian Duke of Lesdiguieres, as a reward for abjuring
Protestantism after a lifetime as a Huguenot leader and general. The
prophecy was not fulfilled as intended, and could not have been, since
La Boetie died four year before the first change of Constable. All
further chance of fulfillment ended in 1626 with the death of France's
last Constable, who, curiously enough, was already alive and in his
adolescence when the prophecy was written.

Indeed "connétable" is in the Harraps: [kCnetabl] nm Hist High Constable"

Funny that you get up to Louis XIII but do not see that this quatrain is
about the other favorites who betrayed him, Cinq-Mars and Thou, and that
Richelieu was more the real connetable after the death of Luynes (1621),
when Louis XIII had decided to rule over France with only Brûlart de
Sillery and his son, the marquis (?) de Puisieux, as well as with La
Vieuville. Marie de Medicis convinces him to take Richelieu who focusses
mainly (although not totally exclusively) on military affairs. (She
wanted to regain the influence she once had. Although in the end it
would not work out that way.) Anyway, in short, this quatrain was about
this epoch, Cinq-Mars for instance, incidentally, was red headed, to
mention one of the four described in one line. This indeed is about this
era of Louis XIII, before Mazarrin. But I won't elaborate further here,
you think also that the quatrain is about some past events, but to
express my surprise to see that you would think that any quatrain can be
unfulfilled prophecies. Sorry to see that. Don't you think it is takes
away the power of the prophecies, not to mention the interest in the
Seer, to adopt this (almost a Lemesurier's) point of view?

J.

Interpretation:
Cen.9, Qua.1
In the White House of the great communicator, by scholarship:
The intern in the Oval Office, One-eyed monster, fellatio; direction,
length of stroke, flow, and career,
Which will change for the new stable keeper.

Just keep your hand on the prize and your eye on the ball,
LB

Correction....

"House of Metaphor"... line one is intended to tell us that this quatrain is
full of metaphors.