Hello all,
Jean Guernon did an interesting offer in the thread "Scientists find
secret of life":
Jean wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
Nah. No etc. Only in 8,87 does it speak of some death that was
"conspired". An assassination.
I shall not use your favourite word which you capitalized below
and starts with an "L" and ends with an "R".
Perhaps you should read his quatrains a little
more if you are convinced that Nostradamus indeed saw the
future.
Perhaps YOU should do it a little BIT.
It would be insane then to trust Nostradamus but to ignore
or deny conspiracies. Or you actually don't trust the fact that
Nostradamus saw the future and those conspiracies.
Well, ok then, let's see where a smart ***** like you has seen the word
shall we?
Provide some other place in the Centuries where the word is used, IF YOU
ARE NOT A TOTAL LIAR, dear "conspirator".
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
Century I, Quatrain 13; conspiracy against a king.
Century II, Quatrain 27; about a coverup
Century III, Quatrain 51; conspiration
Century III, Quatrain 65; coverup of a murder on a priest
Century IV, Quatrain 6; conspiracy
Century V, Quatrain 2; seven conspirators
Century V, Quatrain 17; conspirators
Century VI, Quatrain 11; conspirators
Century X, Quatrain 61; conspirators.
And as addendum: since I know about the NWO-conspiracy, the
satanic leaders in the USA, Europe and others Nostradamus makes
much more sense to me.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
17 Sep 2004 05:07:21 PM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<414a24ad$0$860$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello all,
SNIPPED A BIT
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
Century I, Quatrain 13; conspiracy against a king.
Century II, Quatrain 27; about a coverup
Century III, Quatrain 51; conspiration
Century III, Quatrain 65; coverup of a murder on a priest
Century IV, Quatrain 6; conspiracy
Century V, Quatrain 2; seven conspirators
Century V, Quatrain 17; conspirators
Century VI, Quatrain 11; conspirators
Century X, Quatrain 61; conspirators.
And as addendum: since I know about the NWO-conspiracy, the
satanic leaders in the USA, Europe and others Nostradamus makes
much more sense to me.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Conspiracy/ies you ask named by the seer a good one for you you
perhaps overlooked but nonetheless, one that actually goes through.
Epistle:
37. What great oppression will then fall upon the Princes and
Governors of Kingdoms, especially those which will be maritime and
Eastern, whose tongues will be intermingled with all others: the
tongue of the Latins, and of the Arabs, via the Phoenicians. And all
these Eastern Kings will be chased, overthrown and exterminated, but
not altogether, by means of the forces of the Kings of the North, and
because of the drawing near of our age through the
* three secretly united in the search for death, treacherously laying
traps for one another. This renewed Triumvirate will last for seven
years, and the renown of this sect will extend around the world.*
I reckon it relates to India/ Pakistan and one other most likely
Kashmir, but not neccesarily.
Shhh, not a word to the White House!
LB
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
17 Sep 2004 08:31:51 PM |
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Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
J.
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<414a24ad$0$860$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello all,
SNIPPED A BIT
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
Century I, Quatrain 13; conspiracy against a king.
Century II, Quatrain 27; about a coverup
Century III, Quatrain 51; conspiration
Century III, Quatrain 65; coverup of a murder on a priest
Century IV, Quatrain 6; conspiracy
Century V, Quatrain 2; seven conspirators
Century V, Quatrain 17; conspirators
Century VI, Quatrain 11; conspirators
Century X, Quatrain 61; conspirators.
And as addendum: since I know about the NWO-conspiracy, the
satanic leaders in the USA, Europe and others Nostradamus makes
much more sense to me.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Conspiracy/ies you ask named by the seer a good one for you you
perhaps overlooked but nonetheless, one that actually goes through.
Epistle:
37. What great oppression will then fall upon the Princes and
Governors of Kingdoms, especially those which will be maritime and
Eastern, whose tongues will be intermingled with all others: the
tongue of the Latins, and of the Arabs, via the Phoenicians. And all
these Eastern Kings will be chased, overthrown and exterminated, but
not altogether, by means of the forces of the Kings of the North, and
because of the drawing near of our age through the
* three secretly united in the search for death, treacherously laying
traps for one another. This renewed Triumvirate will last for seven
years, and the renown of this sect will extend around the world.*
I reckon it relates to India/ Pakistan and one other most likely
Kashmir, but not neccesarily.
Shhh, not a word to the White House!
LB
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
19 Sep 2004 06:28:59 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<beM2d.67794$XP3.60515@edtnps84>...
Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
J.
Your proof of such?
LB
Snip
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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19 Sep 2004 12:24:10 PM |
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Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<beM2d.67794$XP3.60515@edtnps84>...
Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
J.
Your proof of such?
LB
It starts with the 3rd blood inundation (bloodbath) i.e. the third World
War.
I have told you over and over, when it will be around, when it will
first start, we will know who is the sterile lady and the sons. This is
not yet around. Or maybe you have a clue if you think it is now? But no
you don't. So?
This is a letter that is addressed to Henry II, but also to the one who
will be anointed in 2026 (can't be before then) at the height of that
war since it speaks of the duration of the length of communism in the
past, but to say it will resurge in the future with the first AC.
It is obvious. And you have nothing to show otherwise even the beginning
of this suite to the quatrains (the sterile lady).
J.
Snip
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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21 Sep 2004 05:16:32 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<_gj3d.86592$XP3.85562@edtnps84>...
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<beM2d.67794$XP3.60515@edtnps84>...
Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
J.
Your proof of such?
LB
It starts with the 3rd blood inundation (bloodbath) i.e. the third World
War.
That is what you think, how about The world approaching a great
conflagration?
I have told you over and over, when it will be around, when it will
first start, we will know who is the sterile lady and the sons. This is
not yet around. Or maybe you have a clue if you think it is now? But no
you don't. So?
I think you miss the whole point of the Epistle, it is central to the
Quatrains, and explains as well as gives context for the Quatrains ie
the subjects and themes they cover.
This is a letter that is addressed to Henry II, but also to the one who
will be anointed in 2026 (can't be before then)
How do you arrive at that date, and why can it not happen before then,
if I can identify 3 of the 5 people who figure in major changes to
global society, I cannot see how you arrive at that date, Hitler took
15 years to conflict 10 to get to power, but there were other players
at that time breaking the rules.
at the height of that
war since it speaks of the duration of the length of communism in the
past, but to say it will resurge in the future with the first AC.
Why do you think the length of communism is mentioned?
It is obvious. And you have nothing to show otherwise even the beginning
of this suite to the quatrains (the sterile lady).
J.
The sterile lady begins in chapter 13 of the Epistle, the start of the
prophetic piece of the letter and apart from two or chapters goes to
chapter 55 before it lapses back giving a second date.
Remember Nostradamus is giving the king a rundown of events, but is
also ensuring his letter is kept for posterity.
LB
See also
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10840654%255E28737,00.html
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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22 Sep 2004 03:03:33 AM |
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Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<_gj3d.86592$XP3.85562@edtnps84>...
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<beM2d.67794$XP3.60515@edtnps84>...
Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
J.
Your proof of such?
LB
It starts with the 3rd blood inundation (bloodbath) i.e. the third World
War.
That is what you think, how about The world approaching a great
conflagration?
No. His visions are about things before 3797.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html#e42
42. Mais à celle fin mon filz que ie ne vague trop profondement pour la
capacité future de tô sens, & aussi que ie trouue que les lettres feront
si grâde & incomparable iactuse que ie trouue le môde auant
l'vniuerselle conflagratiô aduenir tant de deluges & si hautes
inondations, qu'il ne sera guieres terroir qui ne soit couert d'eau &
sera par si lôg temps que hors mis enographies & topographies, q le tout
ne soit pery:
But, to this end, my son, that I do not speculate too much on the future
capacity of your understanding, and since I know that the literature
will produce such a great and unprecedented bragging over my vision
before the universal conflagration to come, which concerns to so many
floods and to so many great inundation's that there will be hardly any
territories that wont be covered by water, and will be so for so long,
excepted in certain places, that everything will be destroyed :
After then will likely be another era of 7000 years with a totally new
civilization if the world survives which is likely. But he wasn't shown
that far.
I have told you over and over, when it will be around, when it will
first start, we will know who is the sterile lady and the sons. This is
not yet around. Or maybe you have a clue if you think it is now? But no
you don't. So?
I think you miss the whole point of the Epistle, it is central to the
Quatrains, and explains as well as gives context for the Quatrains ie
the subjects and themes they cover.
Nah. It is a follow up.
This is a letter that is addressed to Henry II, but also to the one who
will be anointed in 2026 (can't be before then)
How do you arrive at that date, and why can it not happen before then,
if I can identify 3 of the 5 people who figure in major changes to
global society, I cannot see how you arrive at that date, Hitler took
15 years to conflict 10 to get to power, but there were other players
at that time breaking the rules.
at the height of that
war since it speaks of the duration of the length of communism in the
past, but to say it will resurge in the future with the first AC.
Why do you think the length of communism is mentioned?
It is mentioned as being in the past, because it is addressed to the one
who will be anointed king in 2026 during next world war.
It is obvious. And you have nothing to show otherwise even the beginning
of this suite to the quatrains (the sterile lady).
J.
The sterile lady begins in chapter 13 of the Epistle, the start of the
prophetic piece of the letter and apart from two or chapters goes to
chapter 55 before it lapses back giving a second date.
No, it is all a sequence.
Remember Nostradamus is giving the king a rundown of events, but is
also ensuring his letter is kept for posterity.
LB
See also
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10840654%255E28737,00.html
Bah, a zebra doesn't change its strip as one of the lady was saying here
(Jane or Woods?). Look at what they did with the Iraq war. They should
be dumped from NATO along with France. They are butt buddies now.
Anyway, I digress. I don't see what is the relation with the epistle.
J.
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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22 Sep 2004 05:15:23 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<pla4d.112114$XP3.45147@edtnps84>...
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<_gj3d.86592$XP3.85562@edtnps84>...
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<beM2d.67794$XP3.60515@edtnps84>...
Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
J.
Your proof of such?
LB
It starts with the 3rd blood inundation (bloodbath) i.e. the third World
War.
That is what you think, how about The world approaching a great
conflagration?
No. His visions are about things before 3797.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html#e42
But the limit of "Human history" for Nostradamus was a mere 500 years!
ie 51 years left.
Just look at the level of leadership the world has, particuarly the
West their adversaries must be rubbing their hands with glee, for
having such an array of Turkey's as leaders.
42. Mais à celle fin mon filz que ie ne vague trop profondement pour la
capacité future de tô sens, & aussi que ie trouue que les lettres feront
si grâde & incomparable iactuse que ie trouue le môde auant
l'vniuerselle conflagratiô aduenir tant de deluges & si hautes
inondations, qu'il ne sera guieres terroir qui ne soit couert d'eau &
sera par si lôg temps que hors mis enographies & topographies, q le tout
ne soit pery:
But, to this end, my son, that I do not speculate too much on the future
capacity of your understanding, and since I know that the literature
will produce such a great and unprecedented bragging over my vision
before the universal conflagration to come, which concerns to so many
floods and to so many great inundation's that there will be hardly any
territories that wont be covered by water, and will be so for so long,
excepted in certain places, that everything will be destroyed :
How is anyone going to survive geological upheaval?
After then will likely be another era of 7000 years with a totally new
civilization if the world survives which is likely. But he wasn't shown
that far.
NO just the overarmed fools running the world now.
I think you miss the whole point of the Epistle, it is central to the
Quatrains, and explains as well as gives context for the Quatrains ie
the subjects and themes they cover.
Nah. It is a follow up.
So why does it go forward and backward through history?
With not too much left, a calm sedated populace for 300 years?
This is a letter that is addressed to Henry II, but also to the one who
will be anointed in 2026 (can't be before then)
How do you arrive at that date, and why can it not happen before then,
if I can identify 3 of the 5 people who figure in major changes to
global society, I cannot see how you arrive at that date, Hitler took
15 years to conflict 10 to get to power, but there were other players
at that time breaking the rules.
at the height of that
war since it speaks of the duration of the length of communism in the
past, but to say it will resurge in the future with the first AC.
Watch Putin put it back with funding from his helper the Turkey George
W.
Why do you think the length of communism is mentioned?
It is mentioned as being in the past, because it is addressed to the one
who will be anointed king in 2026 during next world war.
Not to give you 3 leaders from that point then?
It is obvious. And you have nothing to show otherwise even the beginning
of this suite to the quatrains (the sterile lady).
J.
The sterile lady begins in chapter 13 of the Epistle, the start of the
prophetic piece of the letter and apart from two or chapters goes to
chapter 55 before it lapses back giving a second date.
No, it is all a sequence.
Remember Nostradamus is giving the king a rundown of events, but is
also ensuring his letter is kept for posterity.
LB
See also
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10840654%255E28737,00.html
Bah, a zebra doesn't change its strip as one of the lady was saying here
(Jane or Woods?). Look at what they did with the Iraq war. They should
be dumped from NATO along with France. They are butt buddies now.
Anyway, I digress. I don't see what is the relation with the epistle.
J.
Epi 27. The countries, towns, cities, realms and provinces which will
have abandoned their old customs to gain liberty, but which will in
fact have enthralled themselves even more, will secretly have wearied
of their liberty. Faith lost in their perfect religion, they will
begin to strike to the left, only to return to the right. Holiness,
for a long time overcome, will be replaced in accordance with the
earliest writings.
Now who is he talking about here but the Eastern bloc of Europe.
LB
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
22 Sep 2004 09:12:23 PM |
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Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<pla4d.112114$XP3.45147@edtnps84>...
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<_gj3d.86592$XP3.85562@edtnps84>...
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<beM2d.67794$XP3.60515@edtnps84>...
Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
J.
Your proof of such?
LB
It starts with the 3rd blood inundation (bloodbath) i.e. the third World
War.
That is what you think, how about The world approaching a great
conflagration?
No. His visions are about things before 3797.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html#e42
But the limit of "Human history" for Nostradamus was a mere 500 years!
ie 51 years left.
Nope. 3797. In that there is even a 1000 years of peace.
Gee I don't know were you take you cue from but it seems to be outside
anything remotely connected with the Seer.
Just look at the level of leadership the world has, particuarly the
West their adversaries must be rubbing their hands with glee, for
having such an array of Turkey's as leaders.
I can't say otherwise, for instance, with France and germany as allies
who needs enemies?
J.
42. Mais à celle fin mon filz que ie ne vague trop profondement pour la
capacité future de tô sens, & aussi que ie trouue que les lettres feront
si grâde & incomparable iactuse que ie trouue le môde auant
l'vniuerselle conflagratiô aduenir tant de deluges & si hautes
inondations, qu'il ne sera guieres terroir qui ne soit couert d'eau &
sera par si lôg temps que hors mis enographies & topographies, q le tout
ne soit pery:
But, to this end, my son, that I do not speculate too much on the future
capacity of your understanding, and since I know that the literature
will produce such a great and unprecedented bragging over my vision
before the universal conflagration to come, which concerns to so many
floods and to so many great inundation's that there will be hardly any
territories that wont be covered by water, and will be so for so long,
excepted in certain places, that everything will be destroyed :
How is anyone going to survive geological upheaval?
After then will likely be another era of 7000 years with a totally new
civilization if the world survives which is likely. But he wasn't shown
that far.
NO just the overarmed fools running the world now.
I think you miss the whole point of the Epistle, it is central to the
Quatrains, and explains as well as gives context for the Quatrains ie
the subjects and themes they cover.
Nah. It is a follow up.
So why does it go forward and backward through history?
With not too much left, a calm sedated populace for 300 years?
This is a letter that is addressed to Henry II, but also to the one who
will be anointed in 2026 (can't be before then)
How do you arrive at that date, and why can it not happen before then,
if I can identify 3 of the 5 people who figure in major changes to
global society, I cannot see how you arrive at that date, Hitler took
15 years to conflict 10 to get to power, but there were other players
at that time breaking the rules.
at the height of that
war since it speaks of the duration of the length of communism in the
past, but to say it will resurge in the future with the first AC.
Watch Putin put it back with funding from his helper the Turkey George
W.
Why do you think the length of communism is mentioned?
It is mentioned as being in the past, because it is addressed to the one
who will be anointed king in 2026 during next world war.
Not to give you 3 leaders from that point then?
It is obvious. And you have nothing to show otherwise even the beginning
of this suite to the quatrains (the sterile lady).
J.
The sterile lady begins in chapter 13 of the Epistle, the start of the
prophetic piece of the letter and apart from two or chapters goes to
chapter 55 before it lapses back giving a second date.
No, it is all a sequence.
Remember Nostradamus is giving the king a rundown of events, but is
also ensuring his letter is kept for posterity.
LB
See also
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10840654%255E28737,00.html
Bah, a zebra doesn't change its strip as one of the lady was saying here
(Jane or Woods?). Look at what they did with the Iraq war. They should
be dumped from NATO along with France. They are butt buddies now.
Anyway, I digress. I don't see what is the relation with the epistle.
J.
Epi 27. The countries, towns, cities, realms and provinces which will
have abandoned their old customs to gain liberty, but which will in
fact have enthralled themselves even more, will secretly have wearied
of their liberty. Faith lost in their perfect religion, they will
begin to strike to the left, only to return to the right. Holiness,
for a long time overcome, will be replaced in accordance with the
earliest writings.
Now who is he talking about here but the Eastern bloc of Europe.
LB
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| User: "Cuan" |
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19 Sep 2004 04:59:04 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:31:51 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Bah, the epistle will be in the far future. WW3 first. In 20 years.
Well, you are partly correct, imho. WWIII will come first, and that
epistle describes how it will all end up. Don't quite know about the
20yrs part - that sounds circumstantially unlikely.
Leigh_Bee a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<414a24ad$0$860$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello all,
SNIPPED A BIT
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
Century I, Quatrain 13; conspiracy against a king.
Century II, Quatrain 27; about a coverup
Century III, Quatrain 51; conspiration
Century III, Quatrain 65; coverup of a murder on a priest
Century IV, Quatrain 6; conspiracy
Century V, Quatrain 2; seven conspirators
Century V, Quatrain 17; conspirators
Century VI, Quatrain 11; conspirators
Century X, Quatrain 61; conspirators.
And as addendum: since I know about the NWO-conspiracy, the
satanic leaders in the USA, Europe and others Nostradamus makes
much more sense to me.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Conspiracy/ies you ask named by the seer a good one for you you
perhaps overlooked but nonetheless, one that actually goes through.
Epistle:
37. What great oppression will then fall upon the Princes and
Governors of Kingdoms, especially those which will be maritime and
Eastern, whose tongues will be intermingled with all others: the
tongue of the Latins, and of the Arabs, via the Phoenicians. And all
these Eastern Kings will be chased, overthrown and exterminated, but
not altogether, by means of the forces of the Kings of the North, and
because of the drawing near of our age through the
* three secretly united in the search for death, treacherously laying
traps for one another. This renewed Triumvirate will last for seven
years, and the renown of this sect will extend around the world.*
I reckon it relates to India/ Pakistan and one other most likely
Kashmir, but not neccesarily.
Shhh, not a word to the White House!
LB
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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16 Sep 2004 07:49:48 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
Hello all,
Jean Guernon did an interesting offer in the thread "Scientists find
secret of life":
Jean wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
Nah. No etc. Only in 8,87 does it speak of some death that was
"conspired". An assassination.
I shall not use your favourite word which you capitalized below
and starts with an "L" and ends with an "R".
Perhaps you should read his quatrains a little
more if you are convinced that Nostradamus indeed saw the
future.
Perhaps YOU should do it a little BIT.
It would be insane then to trust Nostradamus but to ignore
or deny conspiracies. Or you actually don't trust the fact that
Nostradamus saw the future and those conspiracies.
Well, ok then, let's see where a smart ***** like you has seen the word
shall we?
Provide some other place in the Centuries where the word is used, IF YOU
ARE NOT A TOTAL LIAR, dear "conspirator".
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Let's see if it is YOU:
What you said (from above):
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
What I reply (from above) is that there is nowhere the word conspiracy
or conspirators (nor "conspirors" LOL) appears, but in one quatrain
where it has the word "conspired".
Now you think you debunk someone because you come up with quatrains that
DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE WORDS, but which you have someone your read
(who?) who says it is about conspiracies? LOL
Is that the best you can do to "debunk" me?
Conspiracy fit best? LOL
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
[snip]
Let's see what the first one says, for fun:
http://www.propheties.it/no/settima%20centuria/c7q14.htm
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old
Yikes, no "mentioning conspiracies, conspirors etcetera"!?
Anyway, that is not the object, you come to say that Nostradamus
mentions the words conspiracies conspirators... What I reply is that the
word conspiracy or conspirators are not there except in one place. And
here you come back with some quatrain that do not contain that word.
Now, of course history is full of conspirators. Look at the dems
politics, it is conspiracy against the US of A. Just because they are
not in power. But your little satanic ***** has nothing to do with the
White House. Just like your little demonstration has nothing to do with
my reply to your pretense that Nostradamus mentions "conspiracy",
"conspirators" etc. Of course if you post enough quatrains you are bound
to find conspirators, strategy in war is the art of conspiracy.
Can you ever he honest? It is not by starting a new thread that you make
the old thread go away. You can fool some people some time (mostly the
morons who believe your ***** and anything anti-US) but you cannot fool
all the people all the time.
But maybe I should say it is a nice try since you get into Nostradamus
even if you lie about me again. Or were lying about him.
The truth is that one day will come when there will be a resurgence of
these practices. but nowhere does it say that there will be a conspiracy.
http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q26.htm
3,26 : Resurgence of the ancient divinatory practices in use by the
Greeks of the antiquity. Event to come.
Another one also speaks of the same thing: That the satanic practices
and superstitions resurface but again, if not in the past, in the
future, a bit before the AC appearance in fact...
http://www.propheties.it/no/prima%20centuria/c1q42.htm
1,42 : Satanic rituals and superstitions (1679 1752 or year to come, 2051?)
There will be also proliferation of religious sects, but that is not
compatible with satanic rituals.
Doesn't speak of conspiracies linked to that there, doesn't speak of
some leader(s) dwelling in that kind of behavior. Just that it will come
back amongst the people, and this may be in our past yet.
Now, There are lots of conspiracies, indeed, in the future, they are by
islamic forces. Not by Western forces.
Look at the future in the Centuries, look on the only reliable site in
the world, my site, if you wish. You won't find anything of the sort.
J.
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
17 Sep 2004 12:12:54 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:Mwq2d.37162$KU5.26108@edtnps89...
Barbarossa a écrit:
Hello all,
Jean Guernon did an interesting offer in the thread "Scientists find
secret of life":
Jean wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
Nah. No etc. Only in 8,87 does it speak of some death that was
"conspired". An assassination.
I shall not use your favourite word which you capitalized below
and starts with an "L" and ends with an "R".
Perhaps you should read his quatrains a little
more if you are convinced that Nostradamus indeed saw the
future.
Perhaps YOU should do it a little BIT.
It would be insane then to trust Nostradamus but to ignore
or deny conspiracies. Or you actually don't trust the fact that
Nostradamus saw the future and those conspiracies.
Well, ok then, let's see where a smart ***** like you has seen the word
shall we?
Provide some other place in the Centuries where the word is used, IF YOU
ARE NOT A TOTAL LIAR, dear "conspirator".
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Let's see if it is YOU:
What you said (from above):
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
What I reply (from above) is that there is nowhere the word conspiracy
or conspirators (nor "conspirors" LOL) appears, but in one quatrain
where it has the word "conspired".
Now you think you debunk someone because you come up with quatrains that
DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE WORDS, but which you have someone your read
(who?) who says it is about conspiracies? LOL
Is that the best you can do to "debunk" me?
Conspiracy fit best? LOL
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
[snip]
Let's see what the first one says, for fun:
http://www.propheties.it/no/settima%20centuria/c7q14.htm
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old
Yikes, no "mentioning conspiracies, conspirors etcetera"!?
That is because I did not mention that quatrain. I mentioned
Century I, Quatrain 7; about 14 conspirators of 1 group
I did not mention Century VII, Quatrain 14 at all, you just come
up with another quatrain and then state that the word conspiracy
or conspirators is not in that quatrain. That is deliberate misquoting,
which is a huge violation of nettiquette, it makes you a Liar.
<snip>
http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q26.htm
3,26 : Resurgence of the ancient divinatory practices in use by the
Greeks of the antiquity. Event to come.
Another one also speaks of the same thing: That the satanic practices
and superstitions resurface but again, if not in the past, in the
future, a bit before the AC appearance in fact...
Althoug I did not mention this quatrain it surely fits in the satanic plot
of the NWO, to use your words: thank you very much.
http://www.propheties.it/no/prima%20centuria/c1q42.htm
1,42 : Satanic rituals and superstitions (1679 1752 or year to come,
2051?)
There will be also proliferation of religious sects, but that is not
compatible with satanic rituals.
Of course it is. Although I did not mention this quatrain in my first
post in this thread it fits perfectly in the plot of the satanic NWO
conspiracy
How about Century V, Quatrain 77:
It fits perfectly in the freemasonry doctrine where Lucifer is the fire.
It is well known that the illuminatie and Freemasonry has infiltrated the
Christian church and also The Vatican. That is why when the pope
addresses the people on Vatican Square he is facing an erected Oblisk,
which is dedicated to Isis.
Further proof of infiltration of the Christian church by evil forces can
be found in the fact that homosexuality is no longer condemned in a
lot of churches. The Holy Bible clearly condems sodomy. The
worshippers of Lucifer (illuminatie, freemasonry) have already infiltrated
the Christian church to seduce the masses away from the true
Christianity and that is why you like the fascist Bush! You also have
turned yourself away from the true Christian dogmas like Thou Shalled
Not Kill. Nostradamus warns you, but you just don't get it.
Furthermore, in many quatrains and also in his letters to his "son" and
King Henry he warns for very difficult times ahead for the Christian
church. That is also the case in the satanic NWO order where it is
their aim and goal to destroy Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
Please go back to the first message in this thread, find out which quatrains
I mentioned and then come back.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
17 Sep 2004 12:41:11 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:Mwq2d.37162$KU5.26108@edtnps89...
Barbarossa a écrit:
Hello all,
Jean Guernon did an interesting offer in the thread "Scientists find
secret of life":
Jean wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
Nah. No etc. Only in 8,87 does it speak of some death that was
"conspired". An assassination.
I shall not use your favourite word which you capitalized below
and starts with an "L" and ends with an "R".
Perhaps you should read his quatrains a little
more if you are convinced that Nostradamus indeed saw the
future.
Perhaps YOU should do it a little BIT.
It would be insane then to trust Nostradamus but to ignore
or deny conspiracies. Or you actually don't trust the fact that
Nostradamus saw the future and those conspiracies.
Well, ok then, let's see where a smart ***** like you has seen the word
shall we?
Provide some other place in the Centuries where the word is used, IF YOU
ARE NOT A TOTAL LIAR, dear "conspirator".
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Let's see if it is YOU:
What you said (from above):
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
What I reply (from above) is that there is nowhere the word conspiracy
or conspirators (nor "conspirors" LOL) appears, but in one quatrain
where it has the word "conspired".
Now you think you debunk someone because you come up with quatrains that
DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE WORDS, but which you have someone your read
(who?) who says it is about conspiracies? LOL
Is that the best you can do to "debunk" me?
Conspiracy fit best? LOL
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
[snip]
Let's see what the first one says, for fun:
http://www.propheties.it/no/settima%20centuria/c7q14.htm
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old
Yikes, no "mentioning conspiracies, conspirors etcetera"!?
That is because I did not mention that quatrain. I mentioned
Century I, Quatrain 7; about 14 conspirators of 1 group
I did not mention Century VII, Quatrain 14 at all, you just come
up with another quatrain and then state that the word conspiracy
or conspirators is not in that quatrain. That is deliberate misquoting,
which is a huge violation of nettiquette, it makes you a Liar.
<snip>
http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q26.htm
3,26 : Resurgence of the ancient divinatory practices in use by the
Greeks of the antiquity. Event to come.
Another one also speaks of the same thing: That the satanic practices
and superstitions resurface but again, if not in the past, in the
future, a bit before the AC appearance in fact...
Althoug I did not mention this quatrain it surely fits in the satanic plot
of the NWO, to use your words: thank you very much.
http://www.propheties.it/no/prima%20centuria/c1q42.htm
1,42 : Satanic rituals and superstitions (1679 1752 or year to come,
2051?)
There will be also proliferation of religious sects, but that is not
compatible with satanic rituals.
Of course it is. Although I did not mention this quatrain in my first
post in this thread it fits perfectly in the plot of the satanic NWO
conspiracy
How about Century V, Quatrain 77:
It fits perfectly in the freemasonry doctrine where Lucifer is the fire.
The bad guy then.
It is well known that the illuminatie and Freemasonry has infiltrated the
Christian church and also The Vatican. That is why when the pope
addresses the people on Vatican Square he is facing an erected Oblisk,
which is dedicated to Isis.
Hahaha you are insane. The pope now. LOL
Further proof of infiltration of the Christian church by evil forces can
be found in the fact that homosexuality is no longer condemned in a
lot of churches. The Holy Bible clearly condems sodomy. The
worshippers of Lucifer (illuminatie, freemasonry) have already infiltrated
the Christian church to seduce the masses away from the true
Christianity and that is why you like the fascist Bush!
What? I am not homosexual. Another proof you are crazy.
You also have
turned yourself away from the true Christian dogmas like Thou Shalled
Not Kill.
Again, I haven't. I showed you that if the bible says in Exodus 20,13,
"thou shalt not kill" it says in 21,12, Whoever strikes a man so that he
dies shall be put to death.
Jesus said he was there to fulfill the scriptures. You are the one who
refutes that.
Nostradamus warns you, but you just don't get it.
Nostradamus warns me of what? Your hallucinations are not in Nostradamus
writing, they are in your head.
Furthermore, in many quatrains and also in his letters to his "son" and
King Henry he warns for very difficult times ahead for the Christian
church. That is also the case in the satanic NWO order where it is
their aim and goal to destroy Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
Nah, only in the letter to Henri II, and it is from faithless communists
(nothing to do with Christian Bush) that will flourish with the
anti-christs, who won't believe in God.
But that is in a while, first the aggressors will be the Muslims who are
totalitarian fanatics who think Christians and jews are enemies of Islam
just because they have a different faith.
Please go back to the first message in this thread, find out which quatrains
I mentioned and then come back.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Dream on. I don't buy your *****. ANd you make up stuff about me right
here. Why should I play your conspiracies idiot game?
You are a paranoid ***** and a liar.
J.
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
17 Sep 2004 05:25:33 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:XkF2d.39761$KU5.11088@edtnps89...
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:Mwq2d.37162$KU5.26108@edtnps89...
Barbarossa a écrit:
Hello all,
Jean Guernon did an interesting offer in the thread "Scientists find
secret of life":
Jean wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
Nah. No etc. Only in 8,87 does it speak of some death that was
"conspired". An assassination.
I shall not use your favourite word which you capitalized below
and starts with an "L" and ends with an "R".
Perhaps you should read his quatrains a little
more if you are convinced that Nostradamus indeed saw the
future.
Perhaps YOU should do it a little BIT.
It would be insane then to trust Nostradamus but to ignore
or deny conspiracies. Or you actually don't trust the fact that
Nostradamus saw the future and those conspiracies.
Well, ok then, let's see where a smart ***** like you has seen the word
shall we?
Provide some other place in the Centuries where the word is used, IF
YOU
ARE NOT A TOTAL LIAR, dear "conspirator".
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Let's see if it is YOU:
What you said (from above):
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
What I reply (from above) is that there is nowhere the word conspiracy
or conspirators (nor "conspirors" LOL) appears, but in one quatrain
where it has the word "conspired".
Now you think you debunk someone because you come up with quatrains that
DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE WORDS, but which you have someone your read
(who?) who says it is about conspiracies? LOL
Is that the best you can do to "debunk" me?
Conspiracy fit best? LOL
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
[snip]
Let's see what the first one says, for fun:
http://www.propheties.it/no/settima%20centuria/c7q14.htm
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old
Yikes, no "mentioning conspiracies, conspirors etcetera"!?
That is because I did not mention that quatrain. I mentioned
Century I, Quatrain 7; about 14 conspirators of 1 group
I did not mention Century VII, Quatrain 14 at all, you just come
up with another quatrain and then state that the word conspiracy
or conspirators is not in that quatrain. That is deliberate misquoting,
which is a huge violation of nettiquette, it makes you a Liar.
<snip>
http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q26.htm
3,26 : Resurgence of the ancient divinatory practices in use by the
Greeks of the antiquity. Event to come.
Another one also speaks of the same thing: That the satanic practices
and superstitions resurface but again, if not in the past, in the
future, a bit before the AC appearance in fact...
Althoug I did not mention this quatrain it surely fits in the satanic
plot
of the NWO, to use your words: thank you very much.
http://www.propheties.it/no/prima%20centuria/c1q42.htm
1,42 : Satanic rituals and superstitions (1679 1752 or year to come,
2051?)
There will be also proliferation of religious sects, but that is not
compatible with satanic rituals.
Of course it is. Although I did not mention this quatrain in my first
post in this thread it fits perfectly in the plot of the satanic NWO
conspiracy
How about Century V, Quatrain 77:
It fits perfectly in the freemasonry doctrine where Lucifer is the fire.
The bad guy then.
Nope, a clear warning by Nostradamus not to trust the "Christian" church
too much!
It is well known that the illuminatie and Freemasonry has infiltrated
the
Christian church and also The Vatican. That is why when the pope
addresses the people on Vatican Square he is facing an erected Oblisk,
which is dedicated to Isis.
Hahaha you are insane. The pope now. LOL
Nope, haven't you noticed that when the pope addresses the masses on
Vatican Square he is actually facing an erect obelisk? Which is a pagan
monument from Egypt and which is dedicated to Egypt and the Egyptian
pagan god Isis? You sure have some serious reading to do! The reason
why there is an obelisk in Rome is why the "all seeing eye" of Horus is on
the American 1 dollar bill. It is all there, but you just don't see/get it
do you?
The Roman Catholic Church is highly infiltrated by evil forces. That is why
the the pope of 1978 was murdered within three weeks after his
appointment.
Further proof of infiltration of the Christian church by evil forces can
be found in the fact that homosexuality is no longer condemned in a
lot of churches. The Holy Bible clearly condems sodomy. The
worshippers of Lucifer (illuminatie, freemasonry) have already
infiltrated
the Christian church to seduce the masses away from the true
Christianity and that is why you like the fascist Bush!
What? I am not homosexual. Another proof you are crazy.
Where did I say that you were a homosexual? Please read the messages
in this forum a lot bettter! What I said is that the Christian churches are
already infiltrated by those evil forces. Although the Holy Bible condems
sodomy homosexuality is not being condemned by a lot of so called
"Christian" churches anymore.
Furthermore, I said, that the evil antichrist forces have infiltrated the
"christian" churches, "chistians" blessing the weapons. They soon forget
one of the Holy Ten Commandments: thou shalled not kill". Bush is a
fascist. He will not be there when we "assemble".
You also have
turned yourself away from the true Christian dogmas like Thou Shalled
Not Kill.
Again, I haven't. I showed you that if the bible says in Exodus 20,13,
"thou shalt not kill" it says in 21,12, Whoever strikes a man so that he
dies shall be put to death.
The Ten Commandments came from God, any other institution is man
made. If you believe the Bible that is.
Jesus said he was there to fulfill the scriptures. You are the one who
refutes that.
It is totally clear what Jesus wanted His followers to be. They entered
arenas unarmed to be eaten by lions. Total pacifists!
Dream on. I don't buy your *****. ANd you make up stuff about me right
here. Why should I play your conspiracies idiot game?
You are a paranoid ***** and a liar.
I have just proven that you are a liar. You deliberately misquote messages
of me. I mentioned quatrains in which Nostradamus mentioned conspiracies
or conspirators. You then deliberately misquoted me and you came with
quatrains which I did not mention at all and then you call me a liar? You
are
the liar.
So, please go back to the first message in this thread where I already
debunked you.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
17 Sep 2004 08:48:50 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:XkF2d.39761$KU5.11088@edtnps89...
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:Mwq2d.37162$KU5.26108@edtnps89...
Barbarossa a écrit:
Hello all,
Jean Guernon did an interesting offer in the thread "Scientists find
secret of life":
Jean wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
Nah. No etc. Only in 8,87 does it speak of some death that was
"conspired". An assassination.
I shall not use your favourite word which you capitalized below
and starts with an "L" and ends with an "R".
Perhaps you should read his quatrains a little
more if you are convinced that Nostradamus indeed saw the
future.
Perhaps YOU should do it a little BIT.
It would be insane then to trust Nostradamus but to ignore
or deny conspiracies. Or you actually don't trust the fact that
Nostradamus saw the future and those conspiracies.
Well, ok then, let's see where a smart ***** like you has seen the word
shall we?
Provide some other place in the Centuries where the word is used, IF
YOU
ARE NOT A TOTAL LIAR, dear "conspirator".
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Let's see if it is YOU:
What you said (from above):
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
What I reply (from above) is that there is nowhere the word conspiracy
or conspirators (nor "conspirors" LOL) appears, but in one quatrain
where it has the word "conspired".
Now you think you debunk someone because you come up with quatrains that
DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE WORDS, but which you have someone your read
(who?) who says it is about conspiracies? LOL
Is that the best you can do to "debunk" me?
Conspiracy fit best? LOL
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
[snip]
Let's see what the first one says, for fun:
http://www.propheties.it/no/settima%20centuria/c7q14.htm
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old
Yikes, no "mentioning conspiracies, conspirors etcetera"!?
That is because I did not mention that quatrain. I mentioned
Century I, Quatrain 7; about 14 conspirators of 1 group
I did not mention Century VII, Quatrain 14 at all, you just come
up with another quatrain and then state that the word conspiracy
or conspirators is not in that quatrain. That is deliberate misquoting,
which is a huge violation of nettiquette, it makes you a Liar.
<snip>
http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q26.htm
3,26 : Resurgence of the ancient divinatory practices in use by the
Greeks of the antiquity. Event to come.
Another one also speaks of the same thing: That the satanic practices
and superstitions resurface but again, if not in the past, in the
future, a bit before the AC appearance in fact...
Althoug I did not mention this quatrain it surely fits in the satanic
plot
of the NWO, to use your words: thank you very much.
http://www.propheties.it/no/prima%20centuria/c1q42.htm
1,42 : Satanic rituals and superstitions (1679 1752 or year to come,
2051?)
There will be also proliferation of religious sects, but that is not
compatible with satanic rituals.
Of course it is. Although I did not mention this quatrain in my first
post in this thread it fits perfectly in the plot of the satanic NWO
conspiracy
How about Century V, Quatrain 77:
It fits perfectly in the freemasonry doctrine where Lucifer is the fire.
The bad guy then.
Nope, a clear warning by Nostradamus not to trust the "Christian" church
too much!
It is well known that the illuminatie and Freemasonry has infiltrated
the
Christian church and also The Vatican. That is why when the pope
addresses the people on Vatican Square he is facing an erected Oblisk,
which is dedicated to Isis.
Hahaha you are insane. The pope now. LOL
Nope, haven't you noticed that when the pope addresses the masses on
Vatican Square he is actually facing an erect obelisk?
Yeah we know you are totally brainwashed by your conspiracies theories.
Further proof of infiltration of the Christian church by evil forces can
be found in the fact that homosexuality is no longer condemned in a
lot of churches. The Holy Bible clearly condems sodomy. The
worshippers of Lucifer (illuminatie, freemasonry) have already
infiltrated
the Christian church to seduce the masses away from the true
Christianity and that is why you like the fascist Bush!
What? I am not homosexual. Another proof you are crazy.
Where did I say that you were a homosexual?
You say that is why I like Bush. This is crazy. Anyway. Bush is against
homosexual marriage, not a very popular view. To pretend he is
worshiping the devil and come up with a lame connection like that just
because he has to deal with the democratic majority who don't, care
about that is crazy, especially that he is more like Flanders than he is
like err, Mr. Burn. LOL
You also have
turned yourself away from the true Christian dogmas like Thou Shalled
Not Kill.
Again, I haven't. I showed you that if the bible says in Exodus 20,13,
"thou shalt not kill" it says in 21,12, Whoever strikes a man so that he
dies shall be put to death.
The Ten Commandments came from God, any other institution is man
made. If you believe the Bible that is.
The bible is from God since it is written by the prophets.
Sure it changed, we no longer kill people who commit bestiality or
sodomy, then it was normal since they were killers by the spread of
disease, today it is different. Still even today, by this principle,
those who live by the sword will die by the sword. And it is our lord
Jesus Christ who said it, not me.
Dream on weasel. Appeasement of terrorists only make them stronger.
Jesus said he was there to fulfill the scriptures. You are the one who
refutes that.
It is totally clear what Jesus wanted His followers to be. They entered
arenas unarmed to be eaten by lions. Total pacifists!
Like the Romans had nothing to do with that. LOL
You are insane.
Dream on. I don't buy your *****. ANd you make up stuff about me right
here. Why should I play your conspiracies idiot game?
You are a paranoid ***** and a liar.
I have just proven that you are a liar. You deliberately misquote messages
of me. I mentioned quatrains in which Nostradamus mentioned conspiracies
or conspirators. You then deliberately misquoted me and you came with
quatrains which I did not mention at all and then you call me a liar? You
are
the liar.
Nah, you are the liar. You said that Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps
on mentioning "conspiracies", "conspirors" etcetera. He never used these
words despite what you said. To pretend that I said anything else is a
lie too.
Now, I have mistaken the first one of the quatrain you mentioned, but
this was an error. This I admit.
Anyway, my point was that there are no such words in the quatrains.
Not that there are no conspiracies in History. I have told you that, yet
you lie again by ignoring that. it is like you have so much nothing you
need to take your debunked pretense over and over again even when they
are debunked to the bone.
In other words, you suck.
J.
So, please go back to the first message in this thread where I already
debunked you.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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Barbarossa a écrit:
Hello all,
Jean Guernon did an interesting offer in the thread "Scientists find
secret of life":
Jean wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
Nah. No etc. Only in 8,87 does it speak of some death that was
"conspired". An assassination.
I shall not use your favourite word which you capitalized below
and starts with an "L" and ends with an "R".
Perhaps you should read his quatrains a little
more if you are convinced that Nostradamus indeed saw the
future.
Perhaps YOU should do it a little BIT.
It would be insane then to trust Nostradamus but to ignore
or deny conspiracies. Or you actually don't trust the fact that
Nostradamus saw the future and those conspiracies.
Well, ok then, let's see where a smart ***** like you has seen the
word
shall we?
Provide some other place in the Centuries where the word is used, IF
YOU
ARE NOT A TOTAL LIAR, dear "conspirator".
See Century IV, Quatrain 89!
Mission already completed! So, JG, who is the liar in this NG?
But there are more quartrains in which conspiracy fits the best:
Let's see if it is YOU:
What you said (from above):
Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps on mentioning conspiracies,
conspirors etcetera.
What I reply (from above) is that there is nowhere the word conspiracy
or conspirators (nor "conspirors" LOL) appears, but in one quatrain
where it has the word "conspired".
Now you think you debunk someone because you come up with quatrains
that
DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE WORDS, but which you have someone your read
(who?) who says it is about conspiracies? LOL
Is that the best you can do to "debunk" me?
Conspiracy fit best? LOL
Century I, Quatrain 7; 14 conspirators of one group
[snip]
Let's see what the first one says, for fun:
http://www.propheties.it/no/settima%20centuria/c7q14.htm
He will come to expose the false topography,
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old
Yikes, no "mentioning conspiracies, conspirors etcetera"!?
That is because I did not mention that quatrain. I mentioned
Century I, Quatrain 7; about 14 conspirators of 1 group
I did not mention Century VII, Quatrain 14 at all, you just come
up with another quatrain and then state that the word conspiracy
or conspirators is not in that quatrain. That is deliberate misquoting,
which is a huge violation of nettiquette, it makes you a Liar.
<snip>
http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q26.htm
3,26 : Resurgence of the ancient divinatory practices in use by the
Greeks of the antiquity. Event to come.
Another one also speaks of the same thing: That the satanic practices
and superstitions resurface but again, if not in the past, in the
future, a bit before the AC appearance in fact...
Althoug I did not mention this quatrain it surely fits in the satanic
plot
of the NWO, to use your words: thank you very much.
http://www.propheties.it/no/prima%20centuria/c1q42.htm
1,42 : Satanic rituals and superstitions (1679 1752 or year to come,
2051?)
There will be also proliferation of religious sects, but that is not
compatible with satanic rituals.
Of course it is. Although I did not mention this quatrain in my first
post in this thread it fits perfectly in the plot of the satanic NWO
conspiracy
How about Century V, Quatrain 77:
It fits perfectly in the freemasonry doctrine where Lucifer is the
fire.
The bad guy then.
Nope, a clear warning by Nostradamus not to trust the "Christian" church
too much!
It is well known that the illuminatie and Freemasonry has infiltrated
the
Christian church and also The Vatican. That is why when the pope
addresses the people on Vatican Square he is facing an erected Oblisk,
which is dedicated to Isis.
Hahaha you are insane. The pope now. LOL
Nope, haven't you noticed that when the pope addresses the masses on
Vatican Square he is actually facing an erect obelisk?
Yeah we know you are totally brainwashed by your conspiracies theories.
See, this is not a theory. These are facts. There is an oblisk in Washington
DC. It is there to symbolize the link between the leaders in Washington
DC and the ancient pagan Egyptian leaders. The pyramid is also on the US
1 dollar bill, so is the all seeying eye of Horus. There is an obelisk in
Paris
(Paris = Par Isis, meaning to or for Isis). The obelisk there is at one end
of
the main road in Paris, the Champs Elyssee which is orientated on the rise
of Sirius, the dogstar in Canes Major, which is related to the Isis/Osirus
mythology. And there is an obelisk in Rome. A true Christian would not
allow such a pagan symbol to be in Vatican city
Further proof of infiltration of the Christian church by evil forces
can
be found in the fact that homosexuality is no longer condemned in a
lot of churches. The Holy Bible clearly condems sodomy. The
worshippers of Lucifer (illuminatie, freemasonry) have already
infiltrated
the Christian church to seduce the masses away from the true
Christianity and that is why you like the fascist Bush!
What? I am not homosexual. Another proof you are crazy.
Where did I say that you were a homosexual?
You say that is why I like Bush. This is crazy. Anyway. Bush is against
homosexual marriage, not a very popular view. To pretend he is
worshiping the devil and come up with a lame connection like that just
because he has to deal with the democratic majority who don't, care
about that is crazy, especially that he is more like Flanders than he is
like err, Mr. Burn. LOL
What I said was that evil forces have infiltrated in the Christian church
seducing the masses away from true Christianity. That is why "they"
allow sodomy and that is why people like you order killings of other
people.
You also have
turned yourself away from the true Christian dogmas like Thou Shalled
Not Kill.
Again, I haven't. I showed you that if the bible says in Exodus 20,13,
"thou shalt not kill" it says in 21,12, Whoever strikes a man so that he
dies shall be put to death.
The Ten Commandments came from God, any other institution is man
made. If you believe the Bible that is.
The bible is from God since it is written by the prophets.
Sure it changed, we no longer kill people who commit bestiality or
sodomy, then it was normal since they were killers by the spread of
disease, today it is different. Still even today, by this principle,
those who live by the sword will die by the sword. And it is our lord
Jesus Christ who said it, not me.
The Bible is not from God, only the Holy Ten Commandments are
directly from God, when God appeared at Moses. The remarks by
Jesus Christ the he who lives by the sword will die by the sword is
not a condoning or justification of living by the sword! When he calls
on the people to maintain the Holy Ten Commandments he orders
them Thou shalled not kill and to turn the other cheeck. Jesus Christ
never ordered to take swords and kill. He teaches pacifism.
Dream on weasel. Appeasement of terrorists only make them stronger.
Nope, by killing muslims you only create more Bin Ladens and suicide
killers. That is what Jesus warned us for and that is what happens. Once,
you only had a handful and had the international politics been fair to
muslims terrorism would not have emerged.
Jesus said he was there to fulfill the scriptures. You are the one who
refutes that.
It is totally clear what Jesus wanted His followers to be. They entered
arenas unarmed to be eaten by lions. Total pacifists!
Like the Romans had nothing to do with that. LOL
Whether they did ot did not is not relevant. The first Christians in Rome
acted totally in the spirit of Jesus Christ, pacifism.
You are insane.
You mean, the first true Christians and Jesus Christ were insane?
Dream on. I don't buy your *****. ANd you make up stuff about me right
here. Why should I play your conspiracies idiot game?
You are a paranoid ***** and a liar.
Nope, you are the Liar in this NG. You lie about the true intentions of
Jesus Christ and you lied about the quatrains which I used to demonstrate
that Nostradamus too used the words conspiracy and conspirators
frequently.
I have just proven that you are a liar. You deliberately misquote
messages
of me. I mentioned quatrains in which Nostradamus mentioned conspiracies
or conspirators. You then deliberately misquoted me and you came with
quatrains which I did not mention at all and then you call me a liar?
You
are
the liar.
Nah, you are the liar. You said that Nostradamus in his quatrains keeps
on mentioning "conspiracies", "conspirors" etcetera. He never used these
words despite what you said. To pretend that I said anything else is a
lie too.
That is a huge lie again. You came here with at least one quatrain, VIII,
87 where Nostradamus mentioned the worth conspiracy. You "invited" me
to come up with one more quatrain in which the words "conspiracy" or
"conspirators" exist. I came with IV, 89. I mentioned more quatrains where
those words are used. Then you deliberately used other quatrains to proof
me wrong. You mentioned quatrains which I never used. You are the
Liar. Go to the quatrains I mentioned in the first post of this thread.
Don't
"invent" new quatrains which I never mentioned.
Now, I have mistaken the first one of the quatrain you mentioned, but
this was an error. This I admit.
You did more than that. I claimed that Nostradamus used those words
in his quatrains. You denied that. Then you come with one example.
You deliberately tried to use other quatrains to iscredit me. The first
quatrain I mentioned was IV, 89 (immediately debunking your claims),
then I mentioned others with those words in them. Then you came with
quatrains I never mentioned and then you claimed that those words were
not in them. That is lame debating tactics
Anyway, my point was that there are no such words in the quatrains.
Yes, they are, I just found another one: VI, 74.
You, sir, have lost this debate.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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19 Sep 2004 12:17:01 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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[snip totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
The Bible is not from God,
Yes it is.
[snip]
them Thou shalled not kill and to turn the other cheeck. Jesus Christ
never ordered to take swords and kill. He teaches pacifism.
Only in your terrorists butt cheeks kissing dreams.
J.
[snip more totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
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20 Sep 2004 04:38:20 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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[snip totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
The Bible is not from God,
Yes it is.
The Bible is handwritten by many men over many centuries. Only the Holy
Ten Commandments are directly from God.
[snip]
them Thou shalled not kill and to turn the other cheeck. Jesus Christ
never ordered to take swords and kill. He teaches pacifism.
Only in your terrorists butt cheeks kissing dreams.
"He who is without sin casts the first stone". That is what Jesus said when
a mob tried to stone Maria Magdalena. Result? No one dared to throw
a stone, because no one is without sin.
"What to do when someone slaps your face? You turn the other cheeck".
That is what Jesus Christ teaches and he teaches Thou shalled not kill
and love thy neighbours.
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
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20 Sep 2004 02:12:43 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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[snip totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
The Bible is not from God,
Yes it is.
The Bible is handwritten by many men over many centuries. Only the Holy
Ten Commandments are directly from God.
Yes it is, through the prophets.
[snip]
them Thou shalled not kill and to turn the other cheeck. Jesus Christ
never ordered to take swords and kill. He teaches pacifism.
Only in your terrorists butt cheeks kissing dreams.
"He who is without sin casts the first stone". That is what Jesus said when
a mob tried to stone Maria Magdalena. Result? No one dared to throw
a stone, because no one is without sin.
Yeah well, the children who survived the school stand off will gladly
throw the first stone, so that all can join the party.
Thank you very much.
J.
"What to do when someone slaps your face? You turn the other cheeck".
That is what Jesus Christ teaches and he teaches Thou shalled not kill
and love thy neighbours.
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
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20 Sep 2004 07:21:56 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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[snip totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
The Bible is not from God,
Yes it is.
The Bible is handwritten by many men over many centuries. Only the Holy
Ten Commandments are directly from God.
Yes it is, through the prophets.
Prophets are not God. Whether God spoke through them is totally
undecided.
[snip]
them Thou shalled not kill and to turn the other cheeck. Jesus Christ
never ordered to take swords and kill. He teaches pacifism.
Only in your terrorists butt cheeks kissing dreams.
"He who is without sin casts the first stone". That is what Jesus said
when
a mob tried to stone Maria Magdalena. Result? No one dared to throw
a stone, because no one is without sin.
Yeah well, the children who survived the school stand off will gladly
throw the first stone, so that all can join the party.
Are they without any sin? The smallest child is born in sin according to
the Bible.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
21 Sep 2004 02:09:51 AM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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[snip totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
The Bible is not from God,
Yes it is.
The Bible is handwritten by many men over many centuries. Only the Holy
Ten Commandments are directly from God.
Yes it is, through the prophets.
Prophets are not God. Whether God spoke through them is totally
undecided.
Shows you are not a real Christian.
J.
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: Conspiracies mentioned by Nostradamus |
21 Sep 2004 09:23:53 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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[snip totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
The Bible is not from God,
Yes it is.
The Bible is handwritten by many men over many centuries. Only the Holy
Ten Commandments are directly from God.
Yes it is, through the prophets.
Prophets are not God. Whether God spoke through them is totally
undecided.
Shows you are not a real Christian.
False, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ and not the prophets.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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21 Sep 2004 09:39:51 AM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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[snip totally paranoid conspiracy ***** by barbarossa the nut]
The Bible is not from God,
Yes it is.
The Bible is handwritten by many men over many centuries. Only the Holy
Ten Commandments are directly from God.
Yes it is, through the prophets.
Prophets are not God. Whether God spoke through them is totally
undecided.
Shows you are not a real Christian.
False, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ and not the prophets.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Act 3,21
God has spoken through the mouth of his holy prophets.
Or maybe you reject the holy spirit?
J.
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