Dear Dani,
Since you are an certified counselor, uh, I mean Psychologist, perhaps
you can
help me.
I fantasize about you day and night, I dream about your muffin top
belly, and
your pasty white thighs that are riddled with cottage cheese, and
those stretch
marks on your breasts. Not to mention your pointy nose and crossed
eyes
which simply drive me insane!
How can I stop my mind from thinking about you even in my dreams?
Can we go get some ice cream?
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11 Aug 2007 11:18:09 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat
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No, I'm Chastising you
Tell me again about the channeling with dead people JTEM. I hear
they talk to you in other languages.
Do you hear lots of voices in your head ?
Little known to posters here, but talked about in gay groups he haunts,
are his repeated claims he has heard voices of *cosmic masters* emanating
from his arsehole on full moon nights.
They speak to him in 'tongues'...
Doc :))~
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11 Aug 2007 09:58:51 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat
the
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
If you learn how to form complete sentences
If you pulled your head out of your ***** you might be able
to make a point.
I believe you were just chastising me for ad hominem attacks.. now
look who is committing them, JTEM, you freakin retard.
Incorrigible lil' fairy, ain't he? You oughta' take a gander at the people
who can't stand him over the many years he's been wallowing in the
usenet...like a retarded pig in warm mud.
Doc
Seriously, what's it like being an emotional basket case?
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10 Aug 2007 08:31:31 PM |
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On Aug 8, 5:34 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
What do you think Jesus thought of the way Saddam
Hussein treated his own people?
Unlike Saddam, Bush never locked up large numbers
of dissidents, subjecting them to torture which included
perverse sexual acts.
Um... errr.... skip that.
Anyhow, Bush never slaughtered thousands of dissidents
in order to keep control of Iraq.
Well.... um.... ignore that, too.
Anyhow, what is it that Saddam did but Bush didn't do?
I forgot.
Another mental defective.
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07 Aug 2007 08:32:00 PM |
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On Aug 7, 9:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 7, 4:53 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Aug 6, 8:37 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 5, 4:29 am, wrote:
Strange place indeed.
Yes, it's gotten much stranger in just the past couple of years, as
the roster of posters has been dwindling to (for the most part) just a
few hardcore Bush haters -- and me. The people posting here are the
hardest of hardcore *haters* who (for some strange reason) think
they're wonderful people. But they are interesting, I have to give
them that.
Jesus hates murder and pillage but Stevie's fashioned a tiny fig leaf
for that. It fits him perfectly.
What do you think Jesus thought of the way Saddam Hussein treated his
own people?
Pfffffft
He'd condemn Saddam and the Westerners that helped him into office and
propped him up.
Then He'd turn your silly ***** over his knee for thinking the West's
invasion and murder and pillage could be justified by the terrorism
the West supported in Iraq for so many years.
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07 Aug 2007 10:36:41 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jflemke@locallink.net> Spat the Words
On Aug 7, 9:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 7, 4:53 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Aug 6, 8:37 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 5, 4:29 am, wrote:
Strange place indeed.
Yes, it's gotten much stranger in just the past couple of years, as
the roster of posters has been dwindling to (for the most part) just
a
few hardcore Bush haters -- and me. The people posting here are the
hardest of hardcore *haters* who (for some strange reason) think
they're wonderful people. But they are interesting, I have to give
them that.
Jesus hates murder and pillage but Stevie's fashioned a tiny fig leaf
for that. It fits him perfectly.
What do you think Jesus thought of the way Saddam Hussein treated his
own people?
Pfffffft
He'd condemn Saddam and the Westerners that helped him into office and
propped him up.
Stevie proves his ignorance of the christ teachings once again.
He believes that another grievous wrong by the US is justified because
of the wrongs perpetuated by saddam. Stevie really needs to go over to
Iraq to find out how things really are. I think having a vested personal
interest in all this would really open his eyes.
Then He'd turn your silly ***** over his knee for thinking the West's
invasion and murder and pillage could be justified by the terrorism
the West supported in Iraq for so many years.
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08 Aug 2007 04:42:20 AM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Stevie proves his ignorance of the christ teachings
once again. He believes that another grievous
wrong by the US is justified because of the wrongs
perpetuated by saddam.
Stevie is wrong on a great many of his facts, and it
seems he's always wrong on his conclusions, which
is why I'm surprised to see you stoop so low here....
He's right in that the United States was not behind
Saddam's rise to power. And he's right when he
says that most of Saddam's military equipment came
directly from Russia, and the old Soviet Union before
that. Very little of what the U.S. supplied Saddam
during his war against Iran made any difference. There
were chemical agents -- no denying that -- but the
technology was already more than five decades old
by the time the Iran/Iraq war began. It wasn't a case
where if Reagan didn't give it to him he never would
have gotten it.
Now, please, stick to reality. There's PLENTY to
attack this "Steven" for without having to invent
*****.
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08 Aug 2007 05:23:50 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat the
Words
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Stevie proves his ignorance of the christ teachings
once again. He believes that another grievous
wrong by the US is justified because of the wrongs
perpetuated by saddam.
Stevie is wrong on a great many of his facts, and it
seems he's always wrong on his conclusions, which
is why I'm surprised to see you stoop so low here....
I don't need any 3rd party arbitration between myself and stephen,
and I certainly don't need any pointers on picking apart stephen's
massive cognitive leaps or failures of logic. I don't even need
help on creating suitable insults as this is the funnest part of
the job.
It's nice that you have an opinion, although I think I don't stoop
low enough sometimes with the kind of human waste who try to defend
a mass-murderer like GWB. Stevie deserves nothing but contempt.
He's right in that the United States was not behind
Saddam's rise to power. And he's right when he
says that most of Saddam's military equipment came
directly from Russia, and the old Soviet Union before
that. Very little of what the U.S. supplied Saddam
during his war against Iran made any difference. There
were chemical agents -- no denying that -- but the
technology was already more than five decades old
by the time the Iran/Iraq war began. It wasn't a case
where if Reagan didn't give it to him he never would
have gotten it.
Now, please, stick to reality. There's PLENTY to
attack this "Steven" for without having to invent
*****.
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09 Aug 2007 01:32:45 AM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Stevie is wrong on a great many of his facts, and it
seems he's always wrong on his conclusions, which
is why I'm surprised to see you stoop so low here....
I don't need any 3rd party arbitration between myself
and stephen, and I certainly don't need any pointers
on picking apart stephen's massive cognitive leaps
or failures of logic.
Circumstances demonstrate that you're wrong, again.
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09 Aug 2007 01:42:39 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat the
Words
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Stevie is wrong on a great many of his facts, and it
seems he's always wrong on his conclusions, which
is why I'm surprised to see you stoop so low here....
I don't need any 3rd party arbitration between myself
and stephen, and I certainly don't need any pointers
on picking apart stephen's massive cognitive leaps
or failures of logic.
Circumstances demonstrate that you're wrong, again.
Circumstances don't demonstrate anything. You get back to me
when you have something meaningful to say.
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12 Aug 2007 02:33:37 AM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Circumstances don't demonstrate anything.
Practicing a little autistic license, I see...
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08 Aug 2007 04:38:44 PM |
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On Aug 8, 5:42 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
.. Very little of what the U.S. supplied Saddam
during his war against Iran made any difference.
I suppose it depends on what your definition of very little is.
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php
I also suppose it depends on where your moral stance lies in terms of
aiding genocidal tyrants.
There
were chemical agents -- no denying that -- but the
technology was already more than five decades old
by the time the Iran/Iraq war began. It wasn't a case
where if Reagan didn't give it to him he never would
have gotten it.
I suppose you've just made an admission that the US provided support
to a psychopath.
Now, please, stick to reality. There's PLENTY to
attack this "Steven" for without having to invent
*****.
Well here's reality. As shown to an earlier post CIA support of
Saddam and the Ba'ath Party goes back to the late 50's. There's no
reason to simply limit discussion of our support for this tyrant to
the 50's or to the Iran/Iraq war.
Seeing how I haven't done that earlier, let's add to the discussion.
From the Riegle Report:
http://www.gulfweb.org/bigdoc/report/r_1_2.html
Scroll down to the section entitled:
U.S. Exports of Biological Materials to Iraq
The Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs has
oversight responsibility for the Export Administration Act. Pursuant
to the Act, Committee staff contacted the U.S. Department of Commerce
and requested information on the export of biological materials during
the years prior to the Gulf War. After receiving this information, we
contacted a principal supplier of these materials to determine what,
if any, materials were exported to Iraq which might have contributed
to an offensive or defensive biological warfare program. Records
available from the supplier for the period from 1985 until the present
show that during this time, pathogenic (meaning "disease producing"),
toxigenic (meaning "poisonous"), and other biological research
materials were exported to Iraq pursuant to application and licensing
by the U.S. Department of Commerce. Records prior to 1985 were not
available, according to the supplier. These exported biological
materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of
reproduction. According to the Department of Defense's own Report to
Congress on the Conduct of the Persian Gulf War, released in April
1992: "By the time of the invasion of Kuwait, Iraq had developed
biological weapons. It's advanced and aggressive biological warfare
program was the most advanced in the Arab world...
The Senate Banking Committee and the US Department of Commerce are
known to be inhabited by leftists loonies that publish drivel.
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09 Aug 2007 01:31:20 AM |
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John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
I suppose it depends on what your definition of very little is.
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php
What's missing is a few rather significant facts:
The Iranian military was devistated by the overthrow of the
Shah. Much of the officer corp fled the nation, and the Shah
had invested heavily in American military hardware... hardware
that is useless without the proper training, ammunition and
spare parts.
In what was effectively a "sneak attack," the Iraqis MAULED
the Iranians. The Iranian military, even under the Shah, was
smaller than Iraq's (The Shah had no offensive desires, and
didn't need a bigger military), and was already in shambles
BEFORE the war. The Iragi's quickly overran them, and then
took up defensive positions.
By the time of the cease-fire (and all that "Effective" Iraqi
chemical warfare), the Iranians were fighting on Iraqi soil.
Yes, one of those "Largest battles of the war," your cite
mentions, though not by name, was the battle for the
Iraqi city of Basra!
IMPORTANT: Despite every military advantage in the
world, despite all these oh so "Effective" help you're
claiming, the Iranians drove the Iraqi's out of their country
and were fightin on Iraqi soil.
There
were chemical agents -- no denying that -- but the
technology was already more than five decades old
by the time the Iran/Iraq war began. It wasn't a case
where if Reagan didn't give it to him he never would
have gotten it.
I suppose you've just made an admission that the US
provided support to a psychopath.
Iran used chemical weapons.
Uppity Kurds have been slaughtered by Iraq, Iran &
Turkey for years.
Now, please, stick to reality. There's PLENTY to
attack this "Steven" for without having to invent
*****.
Well here's reality. As shown to an earlier post CIA
support of Saddam and the Ba'ath Party goes back
to the late 50's.
Saddam was a Soviet client state. They were often in
opposition to Iran, and Iran was our good buddy.
Far from backing Saddam, the CIA had been backing
the Kurds for decades... at least since President Nixon.
From the Riegle Report:
You're just repeating the same claims, without addressing
any of the larger issues.
Fact remains that, despite every advantage, and despite
any material assistance you want to claim, Iraq went from
rolling over a crippled Iran to getting their ***** kicked.
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09 Aug 2007 08:11:00 AM |
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On Aug 9, 2:31 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
I suppose it depends on what your definition of very little is.
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php
What's missing is a few rather significant facts:
I don't disagree with much of what you say here. It was never my
point that other countries never provided aid to Saddam or that Russia
wasn't Iraq's primary supplier of military hardware. France provided
assistance in the building of the Osiraq reactor.
My issue is that America has been prividing aid to murderers for
generations, Saddam among them. Woods alluded to this in an earlier
post.
It's part of the Grand Chess Game. You choose a ***** that will
serve your goals and best interests and the best interests of the
people ruled by this ***** be damned. In many cases we end up with
having to deal with problems in return, ie Saddams WMD threat aided by
our providing him with his precursor materials.
The evidence of our involvement in Saddam's career is clear regardless
of whoever else may have helped him. I'm more concerned with the
moral and practical aspects of this activity in the propagation of a
brutal and destructive foreign policy than I am with who provided
Saddam with most of his military and economic aid.
Congratulations on a gentlemanly and adult response. It's not like
you took a long list of clearly established American sins, childishly
twisted and propagandized them and then blamed Jimmy Carter for the
longterm results of decades of destructive policy.
Nice to read posts that haven't been written with the mentality of a
five-year-old that got his hand caught in the cookie jar.
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09 Aug 2007 12:39:42 PM |
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John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
My issue is that America has been prividing aid to
murderers for generations, Saddam among them.
The U.S. aid was designed to achieve one goal: A
stalemate. We kept either side from controlling the
Gulf, which they would have if they won.
The evidence of our involvement in Saddam's career
is clear regardless of whoever else may have helped
him.
I have to strongly disagree. In fact, NONE of it survives
the duck test....
For starters, not one lick of it dates until AFTER the
fact. It's no different than all that fake intel "Proving"
Al qaida involvement HERE, or Saddam behind this
terrorist attack THERE.... none of it existed until long
after the fact... when it served agendas.
Congratulations on a gentlemanly and adult response.
It's not like you took a long list of clearly established
American sins, childishly twisted and propagandized
them and then blamed Jimmy Carter for the longterm
results of decades of destructive policy.
Jimmy Carter was the one & only President who put his
foot down, refusing to support aggressors & thugs. He
even stopped Egypt from invading Libya, and withheld
deliveries to Israel when they were attacking their
neighbors!
Carter was the closest to "Mother Teresa" that a U.S.
President ever got. Oh, don't get me wrong. He was
far froma pacifist. He was a strong believer in the
nuclear deterent, and was ultimately the father of the
MX missile, stealth bomber & cruise missile. In fact,
he had cancelled the B-1 bomber, promising something
better (hinting at the stealth), which Reagan turned into
a campaign issue....
Ironically, Reagan got elected, learned all about the
stealth and then threw billions & billions of dollars at
the B-1 bomber anyway, because he was too much of
a coward to admit that he was wrong.
Nice to read posts that haven't been written with the mentality of a
five-year-old that got his hand caught in the cookie jar.
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09 Aug 2007 06:49:04 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat the
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John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
My issue is that America has been prividing aid to
murderers for generations, Saddam among them.
The U.S. aid was designed to achieve one goal: A
stalemate. We kept either side from controlling the
Gulf, which they would have if they won.
The evidence of our involvement in Saddam's career
is clear regardless of whoever else may have helped
him.
I have to strongly disagree. In fact, NONE of it survives
the duck test....
For starters, not one lick of it dates until AFTER the
fact. It's no different than all that fake intel "Proving"
Al qaida involvement HERE, or Saddam behind this
terrorist attack THERE.... none of it existed until long
after the fact... when it served agendas.
Congratulations on a gentlemanly and adult response.
It's not like you took a long list of clearly established
American sins, childishly twisted and propagandized
them and then blamed Jimmy Carter for the longterm
results of decades of destructive policy.
Jimmy Carter was the one & only President who put his
foot down, refusing to support aggressors & thugs. He
even stopped Egypt from invading Libya, and withheld
deliveries to Israel when they were attacking their
neighbors!
Carter was the closest to "Mother Teresa" that a U.S.
President ever got. Oh, don't get me wrong. He was
far froma pacifist. He was a strong believer in the
nuclear deterent, and was ultimately the father of the
MX missile, stealth bomber & cruise missile. In fact,
he had cancelled the B-1 bomber, promising something
better (hinting at the stealth), which Reagan turned into
a campaign issue....
Ironically, Reagan got elected, learned all about the
stealth and then threw billions & billions of dollars at
the B-1 bomber anyway, because he was too much of
a coward to admit that he was wrong.
JTEM, clearly you have views and opinions about things, and you
seem to want to be taken seriously, so there is just one question
I have and that is related to you 'channelling' with dead people.
In all seriousness, tell me more about this so I might dispell once
and for all any notions I might have which put you in the 'kook'
category.
Nice to read posts that haven't been written with the mentality of a
five-year-old that got his hand caught in the cookie jar.
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10 Aug 2007 02:48:57 AM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
JTEM, clearly you have views and opinions about
things, and you seem to want to be taken seriously,
Dud (not a typo), you're not disputing me, you're not
refusing to take me seriously, you're refusing to take
reality seriously.
Everything I've stated is a fact.
And there lies your critical flaw. You're an emotional
basket case. Your feelings towards me cause you to
reject the facts I stated.
...speaking of "Serious," this is a VERY serious
problem, one that should worry you.
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10 Aug 2007 10:29:54 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat the
Words
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
JTEM, clearly you have views and opinions about
things, and you seem to want to be taken seriously,
Dud (not a typo), you're not disputing me, you're not
refusing to take me seriously, you're refusing to take
reality seriously.
Your failure to discuss your channeling dead people is noted. I'll have
to continue considering you a kook.
Everything I've stated is a fact.
And there lies your critical flaw. You're an emotional
basket case. Your feelings towards me cause you to
reject the facts I stated.
...speaking of "Serious," this is a VERY serious
problem, one that should worry you.
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11 Aug 2007 12:01:26 AM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Your failure
What, did someone hit you on the head? You honestly
have no idea what the topic of discussion was here?
Please. You're an emotional freak. Your feeling dictate
your (alternative) reality.
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11 Aug 2007 04:18:51 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat the
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I live in Alternative reality.
I know JTEM, I know.
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12 Aug 2007 02:32:39 AM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
I often lick the ***** of stray dogs.
Thanks for sharing.
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12 Aug 2007 05:12:54 AM |
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In A Series of Grunts and Clicks, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Conveyed the Following
My daddy used to spank me before sex
Have you considered seeking professional therapy JTEM ?
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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13 Aug 2007 07:04:26 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns998A2AE132172rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
In A Series of Grunts and Clicks, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Conveyed the Following
My daddy used to spank me before sex
Have you considered seeking professional therapy JTEM ?
He'd choose a therapist who looked like his daddy...
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11 Aug 2007 08:45:40 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9988DAB19AD44rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat
the
Words
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
JTEM, clearly you have views and opinions about
things, and you seem to want to be taken seriously,
Dud (not a typo), you're not disputing me, you're not
refusing to take me seriously, you're refusing to take
reality seriously.
Your failure to discuss your channeling dead people is noted. I'll have
to continue considering you a kook.
Everything I've stated is a fact.
And there lies your critical flaw. You're an emotional
basket case. Your feelings towards me cause you to
reject the facts I stated.
...speaking of "Serious," this is a VERY serious
problem, one that should worry you.
Uh...is that as serious as the bed-wetting problem that you repeatedly
claim Wolfy is having?
Is it also a serious problem that I refuse to be your 'monkey' and dance
for you as you repeatedly command as my supposed god?
LOL! Yeah, Johnny, you arsehole, you have all the makings of a personality
we should take seriously, alright.
Doc :))~
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10 Aug 2007 05:41:41 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9987B540FE7C3rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Spat
the
Words
John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
My issue is that America has been prividing aid to
murderers for generations, Saddam among them.
The U.S. aid was designed to achieve one goal: A
stalemate. We kept either side from controlling the
Gulf, which they would have if they won.
The evidence of our involvement in Saddam's career
is clear regardless of whoever else may have helped
him.
I have to strongly disagree. In fact, NONE of it survives
the duck test....
For starters, not one lick of it dates until AFTER the
fact. It's no different than all that fake intel "Proving"
Al qaida involvement HERE, or Saddam behind this
terrorist attack THERE.... none of it existed until long
after the fact... when it served agendas.
Congratulations on a gentlemanly and adult response.
It's not like you took a long list of clearly established
American sins, childishly twisted and propagandized
them and then blamed Jimmy Carter for the longterm
results of decades of destructive policy.
Jimmy Carter was the one & only President who put his
foot down, refusing to support aggressors & thugs. He
even stopped Egypt from invading Libya, and withheld
deliveries to Israel when they were attacking their
neighbors!
Carter was the closest to "Mother Teresa" that a U.S.
President ever got. Oh, don't get me wrong. He was
far froma pacifist. He was a strong believer in the
nuclear deterent, and was ultimately the father of the
MX missile, stealth bomber & cruise missile. In fact,
he had cancelled the B-1 bomber, promising something
better (hinting at the stealth), which Reagan turned into
a campaign issue....
Ironically, Reagan got elected, learned all about the
stealth and then threw billions & billions of dollars at
the B-1 bomber anyway, because he was too much of
a coward to admit that he was wrong.
JTEM, clearly you have views and opinions about things, and you
seem to want to be taken seriously, so there is just one question
I have and that is related to you 'channelling' with dead people.
In all seriousness, tell me more about this so I might dispell once
and for all any notions I might have which put you in the 'kook'
category.
It's just one of those RARE times JTEM was sober enough to think straight.
Don't expect a consistently coherent, reasoned stream of posts to follow.
I've seen the poor drunkard have a flash of lucidity, insight and
reasonable intelligence a (very) few times before -- only to have him slip
back into a psychotic, dimwitted, harassing, deluded, arrogant state of
mind again.
Poor lil' traumatized fairy lush...somethin' terrible must've happened to
him when he was little -- like his despondent perverted daddy cornholed
him nightly, possibly. Make no mistake. He's a damned kook and an
inveterate troll. And I know he's a con artist. God knows how many slimy
grifter games he's piloted in his pathetic life span so far...
Doc
Nice to read posts that haven't been written with the mentality of a
five-year-old that got his hand caught in the cookie jar.
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10 Aug 2007 08:42:09 PM |
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On Aug 9, 9:11 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Aug 9, 2:31 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
I suppose it depends on what your definition of very little is.
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/arming_iraq.php
What's missing is a few rather significant facts:
I don't disagree with much of what you say here. It was never my
point that other countries never provided aid to Saddam or that Russia
wasn't Iraq's primary supplier of military hardware. France provided
assistance in the building of the Osiraq reactor.
My issue is that America has been prividing aid to murderers for
generations, Saddam among them. Woods alluded to this in an earlier
post.
So you grew up hating America? Or was it a transformation later in
life?
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10 Aug 2007 09:37:51 PM |
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On Aug 10, 9:42 pm, wrote:
On Aug 9, 9:11 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
So you grew up hating America? Or was it a transformation later in
life?
Castillo Armas was then followed by a succession of U.S.-approved
Guatemalan military regimes, regimes whose military men, over the
years, would be trained in torture, assassination, and counter-
insurgency techniques at the Pentagon's infamous School of the
Americas. The CIA-induced Guatemalan coup and the four decades of
brutal, torturous, U.S.-government-supported military rule that came
with it precipitated a civil war in Guatemala that would last some 40
years and ultimately take the lives of more than 200,000 Guatemalan
people.
In their book Bitter Fruit: The Story of the American Coup in
Guatemala, Stephen Schlesinger and Stephen Kinzer write,
The [Historical Clarification Commission], which was headed by a
German lawyer, Christian Tomuschat, estimated that the conflict had
caused more than 200,000 deaths, and blamed the military for 93
percent of them. In a speech presenting the report, Mr. Tomuschat said
that while he and his fellow commissioners knew when they began their
work more or less what had happened during the conflict, "no one of us
could have imagined the dimensions of this tragedy, not even the
Guatemalan commissioners who had lived through the experience
directly."
"It is with profound sadness that the commission learned of the
extreme cruelty with which many of the violations were committed, of
the large number of girls and boys who were victims of violent cruelty
and murder, and of the special brutality directed against women,
especially against Mayan women, who were tortured, raped and
murdered," Mr. Tomuschat said. "State security forces blindly pursued
the anti-Communist struggle without respect for any legal principles
or the most elemental ethical and religious values."
In 1999, President Clinton, visiting Guatemala, candidly admitted,
"For the United States, it is important that I state clearly that
support for military forces and intelligence units which engaged in
violence and widespread repression was wrong, and the United States
must not repeat that mistake."
<snip>
Since the 9/11 attacks, U.S. officials have consistently maintained
that foreigners hate "us" because of our "freedom and values." Rather
than accepting that official mantra, Americans would be better served
by studying the history of the U.S. government's foreign policy,
including its anti-democracy "successes" in Iran, Guatemala, and
Chile, to get a grasp on why so many people around the world hate the
U.S. government - and to appreciate why the only solution to America's
woes lies in a dismantling of the interventionist empire that
currently holds our nation in its grip and in a restoration of a non-
interventionist republic that guided the founding of our nation.
http://www.fff.org/comment/com0502f.asp
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10 Aug 2007 08:32:49 PM |
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On Aug 8, 5:42 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Stevie proves his ignorance of the christ teachings
once again. He believes that another grievous
wrong by the US is justified because of the wrongs
perpetuated by saddam.
Stevie is wrong on a great many of his facts, and it
seems he's always wrong on his conclusions, which
is why I'm surprised to see you stoop so low here....
He's right in that the United States was not behind
Saddam's rise to power. And he's right when he
says that most of Saddam's military equipment came
directly from Russia, and the old Soviet Union before
that. Very little of what the U.S. supplied Saddam
during his war against Iran made any difference. There
were chemical agents -- no denying that -- but the
technology was already more than five decades old
by the time the Iran/Iraq war began. It wasn't a case
where if Reagan didn't give it to him he never would
have gotten it.
Now, please, stick to reality. There's PLENTY to
attack this "Steven" for without having to invent
*****.
Ok, at least you're not so far gone that you cannot see
that John is making things up.
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10 Aug 2007 09:57:32 PM |
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On Aug 10, 9:32 pm, wrote:
Ok, at least you're not so far gone that you cannot see
that John is making things up.
Where Did Iraq Get Its Weapons of Mass Destruction?
Compiled: April 2003
http://www.fff.org/comment/com0304p.asp
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| User: "" |
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10 Aug 2007 08:28:56 PM |
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On Aug 7, 11:36 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net> Spat the Words
On Aug 7, 9:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 7, 4:53 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Aug 6, 8:37 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 5, 4:29 am, wrote:
Strange place indeed.
Yes, it's gotten much stranger in just the past couple of years, as
the roster of posters has been dwindling to (for the most part) just
a
few hardcore Bush haters -- and me. The people posting here are the
hardest of hardcore *haters* who (for some strange reason) think
they're wonderful people. But they are interesting, I have to give
them that.
Jesus hates murder and pillage but Stevie's fashioned a tiny fig leaf
for that. It fits him perfectly.
What do you think Jesus thought of the way Saddam Hussein treated his
own people?
Pfffffft
He'd condemn Saddam and the Westerners that helped him into office and
propped him up.
Stevie proves his ignorance of the christ teachings once again.
He believes that another grievous wrong by the US is justified because
of the wrongs perpetuated by saddam. Stevie really needs to go over to
Iraq to find out how things really are. I think having a vested personal
interest in all this would really open his eyes.
Then He'd turn your silly ***** over his knee for thinking the West's
invasion and murder and pillage could be justified by the terrorism
the West supported in Iraq for so many years.
You know my friend, you and the other crazies here are the ones who
would benefit from a visit to Iraq. It would open yours eyes to what
is truely going on, not the fairy tales that you believe from your
leftwing leaders.
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08 Aug 2007 04:50:26 PM |
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On Aug 7, 11:36 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net> Spat the Words
He'd condemn Saddam and the Westerners that helped him into office and
propped him up.
Stevie proves his ignorance of the christ teachings once again.
He believes that another grievous wrong by the US is justified because
of the wrongs perpetuated by saddam. Stevie really needs to go over to
Iraq to find out how things really are. I think having a vested personal
interest in all this would really open his eyes.
Stevie sifts Christ thru an American conservative ethos that's based
on the concept of an entitled ease and comfort.
Yes, the Prince of Peace offered his Kingdom to people who would be
willing to invade other nations under false pretences after aiding and
supporting a psychopathic butcher and his crew for 30 odd years.
Jesus was always a big one for going with the lesser of several evils.
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