Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Say It Loud. Improvise. Keep 'Em Guessing.
By EDWARD WONG
Published: April 22, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/weekinreview/22wong.html?_r=1&ref=weekinreview&oref=slogin
<quote>
In other words, beneath all his fiery talk, Mr. Sadr seems to
understand that the Shiite-dominated security forces - which include
many recruits from his militia - still need training and equipment
from the Americans to take on the relentless Sunni militants in the
widening civil war. The horrific bombings in mostly Shiite areas of
Baghdad on Thursday, which killed at least 171 people, underscored the
fears of some Shiites that they are perhaps farther than ever from
defeating the Sunni-led insurgency.
That might help explain why Mr. Sadr, despite his chest-beating, has
also pulled his punches on President Bush's new Baghdad security plan,
and in the process has drawn some less-than-enthusiastic comments from
members of his fractious militia.
<snip>
The endless stream of Sunni-built car bombs, and the inability of the
Americans to stop them, has also tested the patience of Sadr
officials. "It's on its way to failure," Mr. Mutairi said of the
security plan.
One of the biggest threats to the plan is the possibility that as the
bombings continue, Shiite militiamen will step up their killings of
Sunni Arabs, plunging the capital back into a cycle of sectarian
revenge.
Should that happen, it would expose once again another glaring
contradiction in Mr. Sadr's policies - his attempts to ally with anti-
American Sunni Arabs even as his militiamen slaughter them.
During the mass protest in Najaf on April 9, Sadr officials brought in
a few conservative Sunni Arabs in a show of cross-sectarian unity. But
the violence on the ground, especially in Baghdad, where Shiite
militias have driven Sunni Arabs from entire neighborhoods, suggests
that Mr. Sadr is just paying lip service to Sunni-Shiite harmony.
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22 Apr 2007 01:49:41 PM |
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On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Say It Loud. Improvise. Keep 'Em Guessing.
By EDWARD WONG
Published: April 22, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/weekinreview/22wong.html?_r=1&ref=w...
<quote>
In other words, beneath all his fiery talk, Mr. Sadr seems to
understand that the Shiite-dominated security forces - which include
many recruits from his militia - still need training and equipment
from the Americans to take on the relentless Sunni militants in the
widening civil war. The horrific bombings in mostly Shiite areas of
Baghdad on Thursday, which killed at least 171 people, underscored the
fears of some Shiites that they are perhaps farther than ever from
defeating the Sunni-led insurgency.
That might help explain why Mr. Sadr, despite his chest-beating, has
also pulled his punches on President Bush's new Baghdad security plan,
and in the process has drawn some less-than-enthusiastic comments from
members of his fractious militia.
<snip>
The endless stream of Sunni-built car bombs, and the inability of the
Americans to stop them, has also tested the patience of Sadr
officials. "It's on its way to failure," Mr. Mutairi said of the
security plan.
One of the biggest threats to the plan is the possibility that as the
bombings continue, Shiite militiamen will step up their killings of
Sunni Arabs, plunging the capital back into a cycle of sectarian
revenge.
Should that happen, it would expose once again another glaring
contradiction in Mr. Sadr's policies - his attempts to ally with anti-
American Sunni Arabs even as his militiamen slaughter them.
During the mass protest in Najaf on April 9, Sadr officials brought in
a few conservative Sunni Arabs in a show of cross-sectarian unity. But
the violence on the ground, especially in Baghdad, where Shiite
militias have driven Sunni Arabs from entire neighborhoods, suggests
that Mr. Sadr is just paying lip service to Sunni-Shiite harmony.
Yet there was a leader of a faction of the Sunni insurgency who was
trying to engineer a reconciliation with the Iraqi government, only to
have Al Qaeda try to sabotage his efforts -- first with the Parliament
bombing, followed by the large scale attacks on innocent Iraqis the
other day. Yes, I realize (for you leftists) that Al Qaeda is only a
figment of the "neocon" imagination. I believe Al Qaeda actually
exists, but maybe I'm wrong.
[quoting] Security says al Qaeda group active in Spain: Pais
Reuters
Sunday, April 22, 2007
MADRID (Reuters) - Spain's security service has warned the government
that Spain and France are most in danger of being attacked by a north
African wing of al Qaeda and that the group is active in Spain, El
Pais reported on Sunday.
Quoting recent reports from intelligence service CNI, El Pais said
members of the newly named al Qaeda Organisation in the Islamic
Maghreb were working in Spain to raise money and recruit fighters to
send to Iraq and training camps in Africa. [end quoting]
The full article is here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/22/AR2007042200445.html
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22 Apr 2007 02:45:23 PM |
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On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
[quoting]
Iraqi tribal chiefs forming an anti-insurgent party
By Chris Kraul, Times Staff Writer
April 20, 2007
RAMADI, IRAQ - A group of Sunni tribal leaders in beleaguered Al Anbar
province said Thursday that it intended to form a national party to
oppose insurgents such as Al Qaeda in Iraq and reengage with Iraq's
political process.
The announcement came after 200 sheiks said to represent 50 tribes met
here and agreed to form a provincial sheiks council and hold the first
convention in May of their new party, called Iraq Awakening. Sheiks
from three other provinces will attend, organizers said.
The driving force behind the new party, Sheik Abdul-Sattar abu Risha,
said in an interview that the tribal leaders would be pushing a slate
of candidates in Al Anbar provincial elections later this year, as
well as in the next round of national parliamentary balloting,
scheduled for 2009.
One purpose of the party, Sattar said, is to promote a better image of
American-led forces "to the Iraqis here." He added that the tribes
also would participate in a U.S.-backed effort to reestablish a court
system in Ramadi, the provincial capital. [end quoting]
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-sheiks20apr20,1,7969226.story?coll=la-headlines-world
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23 Apr 2007 04:42:26 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
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| User: "Perseid" |
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23 Apr 2007 08:43:54 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun <woodswun@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
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23 Apr 2007 11:15:11 PM |
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On Apr 23, 6:43 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Just as I said in one of my "frothings" -- Al Qaeda doesn't really
exist, it's a figment of the "neocon" imagination.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
Winning in Iraq means having the democratically elected government
remain viable after we leave. If we leave before they're ready, the
terrorists will destroy that government and institute their own
tyranny. But that's what you want, right?
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
Just how feeble-minded is this randolph foreman guy anyway??
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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23 Apr 2007 09:01:22 PM |
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On Apr 23, 9:43 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
If you're patriotic you won't dig, you won't question, you won't
challenge. You'll simply buy the myths, wave the flag and whimper in
fear when the signal goes up.
If you deal with reality you get the drama queen reaction from the
neanderthals. You hate America, you cut and run, you want the
terrorists to win, just keep hoping we'll lose.
But then how could there be even the slightest possibility of losing
now with George Bush in charge? I certainly haven't done anything to
cause this fiasco in the Middle East. I'm just a humble restauranteur
selling chicken wings and beer in Ohio. :-)
In the long run Bush and his minion will do far more damage to America
than those of us trying to get to the bottom things and learn how to
keep their ilk from bringing us another fiasco sometime in the future.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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23 Apr 2007 11:19:32 PM |
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On Apr 23, 7:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 23, 9:43 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
If you're patriotic you won't dig, you won't question, you won't
challenge. You'll simply buy the myths, wave the flag and whimper in
fear when the signal goes up.
If you deal with reality you get the drama queen reaction from the
neanderthals. You hate America, you cut and run, you want the
terrorists to win, just keep hoping we'll lose.
Sounds exactly like you.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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23 Apr 2007 08:56:54 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:43:54 -0500, Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun <woodswun@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
They've never even had a definition of what "winning" is. You can't reach
a goal that's never been defined.
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
I don't think he's stupid. I just think he's got a vested interest, for
whatever reason, to try to bend reality to make it look like Bush & crew
are right and everyone else is wrong - but bending reality doesn't change
reality.
Woods
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking More Bushbot Propaganda |
23 Apr 2007 09:02:49 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woodswun@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:43:54 -0500, Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woodswun@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than
our clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill
pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
They've never even had a definition of what "winning" is. You can't
reach a goal that's never been defined.
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
I don't think he's stupid. I just think he's got a vested interest, for
whatever reason, to try to bend reality to make it look like Bush & crew
are right and everyone else is wrong - but bending reality doesn't
change reality.
I recently had a strange thought about why he seems to lurk
about here. Perhaps his being here originally was purely
coincidental, but what if he's been given the task of
reporting what he sees and hears here ? There's no doubt
we're a bunch of Bush-haters here and we've been told
how organized the neocons have become.. just like a
facist army from nazi germany. It would explain why he
doesn't appear to be benefiting from any socialization
here, yet he can't seem to leave.
Woods
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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23 Apr 2007 09:29:51 PM |
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On Apr 23, 10:02 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
I recently had a strange thought about why he seems to lurk
about here. Perhaps his being here originally was purely
coincidental, but what if he's been given the task of
reporting what he sees and hears here ? There's no doubt
we're a bunch of Bush-haters here and we've been told
how organized the neocons have become.. just like a
facist army from nazi germany. It would explain why he
doesn't appear to be benefiting from any socialization
here, yet he can't seem to leave.
Maybe he originally was supposed to come here and just lurk and report
to his superiors and then he just couldn't hold himself back and
decided to go ahead and risk making an ***** of himself.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Debunking More Bushbot Propaganda |
23 Apr 2007 11:22:22 PM |
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On Apr 23, 7:29 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 23, 10:02 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
I recently had a strange thought about why he seems to lurk
about here. Perhaps his being here originally was purely
coincidental, but what if he's been given the task of
reporting what he sees and hears here ? There's no doubt
we're a bunch of Bush-haters here and we've been told
how organized the neocons have become.. just like a
facist army from nazi germany. It would explain why he
doesn't appear to be benefiting from any socialization
here, yet he can't seem to leave.
Maybe he originally was supposed to come here and just lurk and report
to his superiors and then he just couldn't hold himself back and
decided to go ahead and risk making an ***** of himself.
No, I'm just having fun with a little group of insignificant fringe
leftists.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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23 Apr 2007 11:21:23 PM |
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On Apr 23, 7:02 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:43:54 -0500, Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woods...@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than
our clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill
pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
They've never even had a definition of what "winning" is. You can't
reach a goal that's never been defined.
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
I don't think he's stupid. I just think he's got a vested interest, for
whatever reason, to try to bend reality to make it look like Bush & crew
are right and everyone else is wrong - but bending reality doesn't
change reality.
I recently had a strange thought about why he seems to lurk
about here. Perhaps his being here originally was purely
coincidental, but what if he's been given the task of
reporting what he sees and hears here ? There's no doubt
we're a bunch of Bush-haters here and we've been told
how organized the neocons have become.. just like a
facist army from nazi germany. It would explain why he
doesn't appear to be benefiting from any socialization
here, yet he can't seem to leave.
Why would I leave? You have a problem with me posting here? You see,
randie, I would defend your right to post your feeble-minded opinions
to your heart's content. On the other hand, I'm not sure you'd afford
me the same courtesy, would you? And who's the fascist nazi?
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| User: "Dani" |
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26 Apr 2007 04:57:17 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:02:49 -0500, Perseid
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
I recently had a strange thought about why he seems to lurk
about here. Perhaps his being here originally was purely
coincidental, but what if he's been given the task of
reporting what he sees and hears here ? There's no doubt
we're a bunch of Bush-haters here and we've been told
how organized the neocons have become.. just like a
facist army from nazi germany. It would explain why he
doesn't appear to be benefiting from any socialization
here, yet he can't seem to leave.
I've mentioned there's been a chip implanted in his brain by Bush
and Bush et el. It's controlled by a remote device at the White
House. And if Steven steps outta line, even in the most miniscule bit,
they press a button that shoots a zap - the zap then sends
mind-bending, excruciating pain throughout his entire body for
5 full minutes.
Kinda like the procedure of that dog collar that keeps the pup within
certain boundaries.
And just like the dogs, that is how Steven has been trained.
Cruel and torturous. But efficient.
Dani
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| User: "Perseid" |
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26 Apr 2007 09:41:06 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Dani <d.b737@yahoo.com> Spat the
Words
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:02:49 -0500, Perseid
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
I recently had a strange thought about why he seems to lurk
about here. Perhaps his being here originally was purely
coincidental, but what if he's been given the task of
reporting what he sees and hears here ? There's no doubt
we're a bunch of Bush-haters here and we've been told
how organized the neocons have become.. just like a
facist army from nazi germany. It would explain why he
doesn't appear to be benefiting from any socialization
here, yet he can't seem to leave.
I've mentioned there's been a chip implanted in his brain by Bush
and Bush et el. It's controlled by a remote device at the White
House. And if Steven steps outta line, even in the most miniscule bit,
they press a button that shoots a zap - the zap then sends
mind-bending, excruciating pain throughout his entire body for
5 full minutes.
Kinda like the procedure of that dog collar that keeps the pup within
certain boundaries.
And just like the dogs, that is how Steven has been trained.
Seems like an effective way to control a partly-trained monkey.
Even sounds like fun zapping a little simian like stevie.
Cruel and torturous. But efficient.
Dani
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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23 Apr 2007 11:17:56 PM |
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On Apr 23, 6:56 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:43:54 -0500, Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com>
Spat the Words
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
The neocons, and the familiars (stevie) can only maintain power
if there is a credible enemy. They'll say anything to maintain
the illusion of a reason to be in Iraq.
Their latest favorite retort is accusing us of 'wishing for
failure', even though Bush and company never had any intention
of 'winning' in Iraq but simply to stay there as long as possible.
They've never even had a definition of what "winning" is. You can't reach
a goal that's never been defined.
Just how stupid is this stephen douglas guy anyway ??
I don't think he's stupid. I just think he's got a vested interest, for
whatever reason, to try to bend reality to make it look like Bush & crew
are right and everyone else is wrong
I don't know why you'd say that. For some time now I've been saying
that knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have supported the invasion.
But leave it to you to just make stuff up. You're very good at that.
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23 Apr 2007 07:09:22 PM |
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On Apr 23, 2:42 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:45:23 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Maybe John's right and there is no hope for a reconciliation between
the insurgency and the fledgling democracy. Keep your hopes up, John
-- just keep hoping for the worst.
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh?
Not even close.
You posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill
pill!
Frothings??? Really? I posted three news articles to emphasize why I
thought John is wrong in his conclusion. I kept finding articles that
seemed to apply, and I decided to post them. What's wrong with that?
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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23 Apr 2007 06:13:29 PM |
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On Apr 23, 5:42 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
Well, Woods, people will tend to get hysterical as Bushworld and hence
their identity continues to fall apart.
I'd suggest Steven get a life but he's probably got some spin to argue
against that too.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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23 Apr 2007 07:11:39 PM |
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On Apr 23, 4:13 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Apr 23, 5:42 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
And maybe John hit a nerve that's a little too close to home, eh? You
posted 3 different frothings to his single post, dude - take a chill pill!
Woods
Well, Woods, people will tend to get hysterical as Bushworld and hence
their identity continues to fall apart.
Hysterical???? First frothings, and now hysterical? I notice neither
of you bothered to respond to the news articles I posted. Why is that?
I'd suggest Steven get a life but he's probably got some spin to argue
against that too.
You first.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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22 Apr 2007 02:23:01 PM |
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On Apr 22, 7:57 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Bush has been in over his head from the beginning. We have
incompetents at the top and smaller monkeys down below continuing to
spin myth.
Al-Queda and insurgents trying to destroy a fledgling democracy?
That's all bs. It's a civil war amongst the principals in the
"democracy" and the principals are far more adept at the game than our
clueless neocons.
Yeah, maybe you're right. There are no outside agitators, are there?
That's all bs, just a figment of the "neocon" imagination.
[quoting] Algeria holds 80 with alleged Iraq link
Sun Apr 22, 2007
ALGIERS (Reuters) - Algerian security forces have arrested 80 Algerian
Islamists who made recent visits to Iraq for questioning about suicide
bomb attacks in Algiers, a leading newspaper reported on Sunday.
The daily, Echorouk, said the 80, suspected of having had links to al
Qaeda in Iraq, were being questioned about whether there was any
connection between that branch of al Qaeda and the bombings that
killed 33 people in Algiers on April 11.
The attacks, the first large bombings in the centre of the
Mediterranean port city in more than a decade, were claimed by the al
Qaeda Organisation in the Islamic Maghreb, an Algerian Islamist armed
group.
Most of the arrested men are Islamist militants who were in Iraq to
combat the U.S. occupation, and are now back home, a security source
was quoted as saying by Echorouk.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKL2268706620070422
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