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Date: 20 Apr 2004 06:30:55 AM
Object: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?
Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?
Posted: April 20, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
In light of what we know now we need to look back at a whole bunch of things
that happened in the 1990s to see if there might be an al-Qaida connection and
that would include the Oklahoma City bombing and the TWA 800 flight. There may
be no connection to terrorism, but boy do we need to take a second look at it.
– Herbert Meyer, Reagan-era special assistant to CIA director, on "Fox and
Friends," April 15, 2004
In this generation, no single reporter has done more resourceful legwork than
Jayna Davis, the author of "The Third Terrorist." For those who have followed
the fate of TWA Flight 800, one of Davis' adventures has particular relevance.
In the summer of 1996, more than a year after the Oklahoma City bombing, the
intrepid KFOR-TV reporter received a tip on her unlisted home phone line to
check out a certain garage, International Auto Mechanics, located a mile or so
north of the Murrah Building site in Oklahoma City.
"The Iraqi soldiers had been seen hanging out at the garage," the caller told
Davis, referring here to the suspects that Davis had fingered as helping
Timothy McVeigh deliver the fatal bomb. The caller's boyfriend, an illegal
immigrant from Mexico who worked at the garage, had started noticing a heavy
influx of calls from Iran and London in early 1995.
Then, in February 1995, the new owners shut down the garage unexpectedly and
let all the workers go, only to rehire them a few months later, "after the big
boom downtown."
The new owners, Davis learned, were a pair of Pakistani nationals, one a
full-time student and the other, a New York cab driver. The pair had shown up
in November 1994 with $25,000 in cash, bought the garage, and prepaid the lease
through August 1995. Before the lease was up, the pair abandoned the business
and gave it back to its original Iranian owner, himself a questionable
character.
On July 14, 1996, Davis, accompanied by her husband Drew, found her way to the
Pakistani student. Unprepared for the interview, he dissembled his way through
Davis' questions. He gave no good explanation as to why he would absorb a
$25,000 loss and then hand the keys back to the original owner, a man the
student claimed had tricked him into buying the shop in the first place. When
Davis asked about his partner, the New York City cab driver, the Pakistani
student told her that she had better catch him soon as he was heading back to
New York.
To her surprise, Davis found the cab driver's name in the phone book. This
time, she had Drew, a trained U.S. Army linguist and Gulf War vet with a knack
for accents, make a phone call. When the Pakistani cab driver answered, Drew
identified himself as "Mohammed" and ascertained that the Pakistani cab driver
was indeed leaving for New York City.
In a stunning bit of chutzpah, Drew managed to solicit from the unsuspecting
cab driver his New York phone number. When the cab driver started growing
suspicious, Drew terminated the call, called the number in New York and asked
for the cab driver by name. "He will be here on Tuesday," a man answered with a
thick Arab accent. This man, too, grew quickly wary, and Drew hung up.
At 1:17 a.m. on Tuesday morning, July 16, 1996, Jayna Davis got a phone call on
her unlisted line. "Jayna, don't try to run away. You're not going to get away
with this," the caller growled in his foreign accent. "See you in hell." This
was Davis' first and only death threat.
Later on that same day, the Islamic Change Movement issued a threat, this one
received at the highest levels in Washington. The group's communique promised
an attack of great "magnitude" to embarrass "the foolish American president."
The threatened time was "morning dawn."
The next day, July 17, as morning dawned on the Arabian peninsula, and the sun
set on Long Island, hundreds of Long Islanders – pilots, fishermen, surfers,
vacationers – watched helplessly as flare-like objects ascended off the
horizon, zigzagged upward, made last second course corrections and exploded
violently in a bright white light. The Serbo-Croatian word for such a blast is
"bojinka." Some endless seconds later, TWA Flight 800 erupted in an orange
fireball of great magnitude and fell immediately into the sea
That very day, National Liberation Day in Saddam's Iraq, Ramzi Yousef had been
standing trial in a New York City federal court. Evidence strongly suggests
that Yousef had conspired with Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols in the
Philippines in the months prior to the Murrah Building bombing. "We do know
that Nichols' bombs did not work before his Philippine stay," writes Richard
Clarke in "Against All Enemies," "and were deadly when he returned."
Although Yousef also oversaw the first World Trade Center bombing, he was being
tried in July 1996 for his role in Operation Bojinka, a plot both to blow up
American airliners with bombs and to use planes as missiles to attack American
targets.
The independent analysts who have looked at the fate of TWA Flight 800 – and
this includes scores of airline pilots, safety investigators, munitions
experts, physicists, TWA mechanics, FAA investigators, Boeing engineers and
retired military through the ranks of admiral – agree almost to a person that
missiles were indeed fired, and that those missiles resulted in the destruction
of the aircraft.
Given the restraints on evidence gathering, these independent investigators
differ on the details. One school holds that terrorists launched the attack,
most likely from the sea and with missiles likely more powerful than the
much-discussed Stingers. In "First Strike: TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on
America," James Sanders and I advance the theory that U.S. Navy missiles fired
at and struck an explosive-packed terrorist plane in close proximity to TWA
800.
Either of these terrorist scenarios would demand a support team. When Jayna
Davis heard of the TWA 800 disaster on July 17, she connected it immediately to
her death threat and the cab driver's arrival in New York, both on July 16.
Horrified at the implications, she had to wonder whether she had actually
called the team's safe house.
This connection needs to be explored. If former CIA honcho Herbert Meyer
believes that it is worth a "second look," perhaps the 9-11 Commission should
oblige him.
.

User: "tw"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 20 Apr 2004 06:35:52 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?

LOL!


Posted: April 20, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

2004 WorldNetDaily.com

In light of what we know now we need to look back at a whole bunch of

things

that happened in the 1990s to see if there might be an al-Qaida connection

and

that would include the Oklahoma City bombing and the TWA 800 flight. There

may

be no connection to terrorism, but boy do we need to take a second look at

it.
BWAHAHAHA!


- Herbert Meyer, Reagan-era special assistant to CIA director, on "Fox and
Friends," April 15, 2004

In this generation, no single reporter has done more resourceful legwork

than

Jayna Davis, the author of "The Third Terrorist." For those who have

followed

the fate of TWA Flight 800, one of Davis' adventures has particular

relevance.
ROFL!


In the summer of 1996, more than a year after the Oklahoma City bombing,

the

intrepid KFOR-TV reporter received a tip on her unlisted home phone line

to

check out a certain garage, International Auto Mechanics, located a mile

or so

north of the Murrah Building site in Oklahoma City.

"The Iraqi soldiers had been seen hanging out at the garage,"

WTF?!

the caller told
Davis, referring here to the suspects that Davis had fingered as helping
Timothy McVeigh deliver the fatal bomb. The caller's boyfriend, an illegal
immigrant from Mexico who worked at the garage, had started noticing a

heavy

influx of calls from Iran and London in early 1995.

Then, in February 1995, the new owners shut down the garage unexpectedly

and

let all the workers go, only to rehire them a few months later, "after the

big

boom downtown."

The new owners, Davis learned, were a pair of Pakistani nationals, one a
full-time student and the other, a New York cab driver. The pair had shown

up

in November 1994 with $25,000 in cash, bought the garage, and prepaid the

lease

through August 1995. Before the lease was up, the pair abandoned the

business

and gave it back to its original Iranian owner, himself a questionable
character.

On July 14, 1996, Davis, accompanied by her husband Drew, found her way to

the

Pakistani student. Unprepared for the interview, he dissembled his way

through

Davis' questions. He gave no good explanation as to why he would absorb a
$25,000 loss and then hand the keys back to the original owner, a man the
student claimed had tricked him into buying the shop in the first place.

When

Davis asked about his partner, the New York City cab driver, the Pakistani
student told her that she had better catch him soon as he was heading back

to

New York.

To her surprise, Davis found the cab driver's name in the phone book. This
time, she had Drew, a trained U.S. Army linguist and Gulf War vet with a

knack

for accents, make a phone call. When the Pakistani cab driver answered,

Drew

identified himself as "Mohammed" and ascertained that the Pakistani cab

driver

was indeed leaving for New York City.

In a stunning bit of chutzpah, Drew managed to solicit from the

unsuspecting

cab driver his New York phone number. When the cab driver started growing
suspicious, Drew terminated the call, called the number in New York and

asked

for the cab driver by name. "He will be here on Tuesday," a man answered

with a

thick Arab accent. This man, too, grew quickly wary, and Drew hung up.

At 1:17 a.m. on Tuesday morning, July 16, 1996, Jayna Davis got a phone

call on

her unlisted line. "Jayna, don't try to run away. You're not going to get

away

with this," the caller growled in his foreign accent. "See you in hell."

This

was Davis' first and only death threat.

Later on that same day, the Islamic Change Movement issued a threat, this

one

received at the highest levels in Washington. The group's communique

promised

an attack of great "magnitude" to embarrass "the foolish American

president."

The threatened time was "morning dawn."

The next day, July 17, as morning dawned on the Arabian peninsula, and the

sun

set on Long Island, hundreds of Long Islanders - pilots, fishermen,

surfers,

vacationers - watched helplessly as flare-like objects ascended off the
horizon, zigzagged upward, made last second course corrections and

exploded

violently in a bright white light. The Serbo-Croatian word for such a

blast is

"bojinka." Some endless seconds later, TWA Flight 800 erupted in an orange
fireball of great magnitude and fell immediately into the sea

That very day, National Liberation Day in Saddam's Iraq, Ramzi Yousef had

been

standing trial in a New York City federal court. Evidence strongly

suggests

that Yousef had conspired with Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols in the
Philippines in the months prior to the Murrah Building bombing. "We do

know

that Nichols' bombs did not work before his Philippine stay," writes

Richard

Clarke in "Against All Enemies," "and were deadly when he returned."

Although Yousef also oversaw the first World Trade Center bombing, he was

being

tried in July 1996 for his role in Operation Bojinka, a plot both to blow

up

American airliners with bombs and to use planes as missiles to attack

American

targets.


The independent analysts who have looked at the fate of TWA Flight 800 -

and

this includes scores of airline pilots, safety investigators, munitions
experts, physicists, TWA mechanics, FAA investigators, Boeing engineers

and

retired military through the ranks of admiral - agree almost to a person

that

missiles were indeed fired, and that those missiles resulted in the

destruction

of the aircraft.

Absolute and utter *****. Unless, of course "independent analyst" means
"empty headed kook with a website". Which it does.


Given the restraints on evidence gathering, these independent

investigators

differ on the details. One school holds that terrorists launched the

attack,

most likely from the sea and with missiles likely more powerful than the
much-discussed Stingers. In "First Strike: TWA Flight 800 and the Attack

on

America," James Sanders and I advance the theory that U.S. Navy missiles

fired

at and struck an explosive-packed terrorist plane in close proximity to

TWA

800.

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal. As well as a tremendous fool.


Either of these terrorist scenarios would demand a support team. When

Jayna

Davis heard of the TWA 800 disaster on July 17, she connected it

immediately to

her death threat and the cab driver's arrival in New York, both on July

16.

Horrified at the implications, she had to wonder whether she had actually
called the team's safe house.

This connection needs to be explored. If former CIA honcho Herbert Meyer
believes that it is worth a "second look," perhaps the 9-11 Commission

should

oblige him.


.
User: "mike constantine"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 20 Apr 2004 07:33:36 PM
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?


LOL!

They also killed Kennedy.
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 20 Apr 2004 08:34:14 PM
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Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?


LOL!


They also killed Kennedy.


They're also hiding Saddam's WMD's.
.
User: "sonya"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 21 Apr 2004 10:47:26 AM
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Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?


LOL!


They also killed Kennedy.



They're also hiding Saddam's WMD's.

You're forgetting one important detail... THEY = ILLUMINATI :-D
Sonya
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User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 21 Apr 2004 05:20:59 PM
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Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?


LOL!


They also killed Kennedy.



They're also hiding Saddam's WMD's.


You're forgetting one important detail... THEY = ILLUMINATI :-D

Sonya

Hiding things? I was only joking. We live in a totally free and open
society (fnord).
.




User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 20 Apr 2004 06:49:29 AM

"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.

And you evidence for making such a claim is what exactly?
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 20 Apr 2004 07:05:53 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.


And you evidence for making such a claim is what exactly?

He was convicted of stealing evidence, remember? Even the kook sites report
it:
http://www.twa800.com/news/newsday415.htm
By the way, you DO know that Sanders' "theory" is that it was the US navy
that shot down TWA800, not terrorists?
BWAHAHAHAHA...
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 20 Apr 2004 08:22:42 AM
"tw" <
> wrote in message
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.


And you evidence for making such a claim is what exactly?



He was convicted of stealing evidence, remember? Even the kook sites

report

it:

http://www.twa800.com/news/newsday415.htm

By the way, you DO know that Sanders' "theory" is that it was the US navy
that shot down TWA800, not terrorists?

BWAHAHAHAHA...

The Krazy Kristian Konservative silence is deafening... not to mention
hilarious!
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 22 Apr 2004 10:37:10 PM
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:22:42 +0200, "tw" <
> wrote:


"tw" <

> wrote in message
news:c633iv$h2f$1@newstree.wise.edt.ericsson.se...


"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040420074929.02630.00000128@mb-m27.aol.com...

"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.


And you evidence for making such a claim is what exactly?



He was convicted of stealing evidence, remember? Even the kook sites

report

it:

http://www.twa800.com/news/newsday415.htm

By the way, you DO know that Sanders' "theory" is that it was the US navy
that shot down TWA800, not terrorists?

BWAHAHAHAHA...

The Krazy Kristian Konservative silence is deafening... not to mention
hilarious!

Hehe.. "Krazy Kristian Konservative" - I like it .. :)
Dani
.
User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 22 Apr 2004 11:58:12 PM
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lc4h80dtrq66vphi5a6iemjl5uijnqo34d@4ax.com...

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:22:42 +0200, "tw" <

> wrote:


"tw" <

> wrote in message
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040420074929.02630.00000128@mb-m27.aol.com...

"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.


And you evidence for making such a claim is what exactly?



He was convicted of stealing evidence, remember? Even the kook sites

report

it:

http://www.twa800.com/news/newsday415.htm

By the way, you DO know that Sanders' "theory" is that it was the US navy
that shot down TWA800, not terrorists?

BWAHAHAHAHA...


The Krazy Kristian Konservative silence is deafening... not to mention
hilarious!


Hehe.. "Krazy Kristian Konservative" - I like it .. :)

Dani

KKK=excellence in politics. Bush has my vote.
~dw
.



User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 21 Apr 2004 07:41:25 AM

"tw"


wrote:


"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040420074929.02630.00000128@mb-m27.aol.com...

"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.


And you evidence for making such a >>claim is what exactly?

He was convicted of stealing evidence, >remember?

Oh, you mean the evidence that the government was hiding from the public?
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 21 Apr 2004 08:06:19 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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"tw"


wrote:


"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040420074929.02630.00000128@mb-m27.aol.com...

"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.


And you evidence for making such a >>claim is what exactly?


He was convicted of stealing evidence, >remember?


Oh, you mean the evidence that the government was hiding from the public?

Nope, evidence he stole from the investigators who were conducting a
transparent-peer reviewed investigation you paranoid steroid-freak *****.
Now what about the itty-bitty problem that Sanders thinks the US Navy shot
down TWA800 by mistake, yet you are using him to suport YOUR theory that it
was terrorists? Doesn't ring any alarm bells in whatever random collection
of synapses and prejudice passes for a brain in your case?


Tony

.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot? 22 Apr 2004 05:15:54 AM
"tw" <
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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"tw"


wrote:


"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040420074929.02630.00000128@mb-m27.aol.com...

"tw"


wrote:

Sanders is a proven liar and criminal.


And you evidence for making such a >>claim is what exactly?


He was convicted of stealing evidence, >remember?


Oh, you mean the evidence that the government was hiding from the

public?


Nope, evidence he stole from the investigators who were conducting a
transparent-peer reviewed investigation you paranoid steroid-freak *****.

Now what about the itty-bitty problem that Sanders thinks the US Navy shot
down TWA800 by mistake, yet you are using him to suport YOUR theory that

it

was terrorists? Doesn't ring any alarm bells in whatever random collection
of synapses and prejudice passes for a brain in your case?

Again, the Krazy Kristian Konservative silence is deafening and hilarious..
.







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