AT PEP RALLY!! LOL!!! PRICELESS!!!!!
Troops Put Tough Questions to Rumsfeld
By=A0ROBERT BURNS
The Associated Press
CAMP BUEHRING, Kuwait - After delivering a pep talk designed to energize
troops preparing to head for Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
got a little "talking to" himself from disgruntled soldiers.
In his prepared remarks, Rumsfeld urged the troops - mostly National
Guard and Reserve soldiers - to discount critics of the war in Iraq and
to help "win the test of wills" with the insurgents.
Some of soldiers, however, had criticisms of their own - not of the war
itself but of how it is being fought.
Army Spc. Thomas Wilson, for example, of the 278th Regimental Combat
Team that is comprised mainly of citizen soldiers of the Tennessee Army
National Guard, asked Rumsfeld in a question-and-answer session why
vehicle armor is still in short supply, nearly three years after the war
in Iraq.
"Why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of
scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to uparmor our vehicles?"
Wilson asked. A big cheer arose from the approximately 2,300 soldiers in
the cavernous hangar who assembled to see and hear the secretary of
defense.
Rumsfeld hesitated and asked Wilson to repeat his question.
"We do not have proper armored vehicles to carry with us north," Wilson
said after asking again.
Rumsfeld replied that, "You go to war with the Army you have," not the
one you might want, and that any rate the Army was pushing manufacturers
of vehicle armor to produce it as fast as humanly possible.
And, the defense chief added, armor is not always a savior in the kind
of combat
U.S. troops face in Iraq, where the insurgents' weapon of choice is the
roadside bomb, or improvised explosive device that has killed and maimed
hundreds, if not thousands, of American troops since the summer of 2003.
"You can have all the armor in the world on a tank and it can (still) be
blown up," Rumsfeld said.
Asked later about Wilson's complaint, the deputy commanding general of
U.S. forces in Kuwait, Maj. Gen. Gary Speer, said in an interview that
as far as he knows, every vehicle that is deploying to Iraq from Camp
Buehring in Kuwait has at least "Level 3" armor. That means it at least
has locally fabricated armor for its side panels, but not necessarily
bulletproof windows or protection against explosions that penetrate the
floorboard.
Speer said he was not aware that soldiers were searching landfills for
scrap mental and used bulletproof glass.
During the question-and-answer session, another soldier complained that
active-duty Army units sometimes get priority over the National Guard
and Reserve units for the best equipment in Iraq.
"There's no way I can prove it, but I am told the Army is breaking its
neck to see that there is not" discrimination against the National Guard
and Reserve in terms of providing equipment, Rumsfeld said.
Yet another soldier asked, without putting it to Rumsfeld as a direct
criticism, how much longer the Army will continue using its "stop loss"
power to prevent soldiers from leaving the service who are otherwise
eligible to retire or quit.
Rumsfeld said that this condition was simply a fact of life for soldiers
at time of war.
"It's basically a sound principle, it's nothing new, it's been well
understood" by soldiers, he said. "My guess is it will continue to be
used as little as possible, but that it will continue to be used."
In his opening remarks, Rumsfeld stressed that soldiers who are heading
to Iraq should not believe those who say the insurgents cannot be
defeated or who otherwise doubt the will of the military to win.
"They say we can't prevail. I see that violence and say we must win,"
Rumsfeld said.
December 8, 2004=A04:07 AM
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09 Dec 2004 04:43:34 PM |
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In article <1269-41B83BA1-202@storefull-3218.bay.webtv.net>, (Su Zanadu) wrote:
AT PEP RALLY!! LOL!!! PRICELESS!!!!!
Troops Put Tough Questions to Rumsfeld
By=A0ROBERT BURNS
The Associated Press
CAMP BUEHRING, Kuwait - After delivering a pep talk designed to energize
troops preparing to head for Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
got a little "talking to" himself from disgruntled soldiers.
In his prepared remarks, Rumsfeld urged the troops - mostly National
Guard and Reserve soldiers - to discount critics of the war in Iraq and
to help "win the test of wills" with the insurgents.
Some of soldiers, however, had criticisms of their own - not of the war
itself but of how it is being fought.
Army Spc. Thomas Wilson, for example, of the 278th Regimental Combat
Team that is comprised mainly of citizen soldiers of the Tennessee Army
National Guard, asked Rumsfeld in a question-and-answer session why
vehicle armor is still in short supply, nearly three years after the war
in Iraq.
"Why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of
scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to uparmor our vehicles?"
Wilson asked. A big cheer arose from the approximately 2,300 soldiers in
the cavernous hangar who assembled to see and hear the secretary of
defense.
Rumsfeld hesitated and asked Wilson to repeat his question.
"We do not have proper armored vehicles to carry with us north," Wilson
said after asking again.
Rumsfeld replied that, "You go to war with the Army you have," not the
one you might want, and that any rate the Army was pushing manufacturers
of vehicle armor to produce it as fast as humanly possible.
Well, maybe Rumsfeld should have let Bush know that his army wasn't prepared.
You "make do" when you don't have a choice, but we had a choice, and it's quite
obvious that Rummy and Bush don't care squat about our troops.
Woods
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Woods wrote:
Well, maybe Rumsfeld should have let
Bush know that his army wasn't
prepared. You "make do" when you
don't have a choice, but we had a
choice, and it's quite obvious that
Rummy and Bush don't care squat
about our troops.
Did you see the video? I saw it this morning on the Today Show and on
CNN. Katie Couric was appalled by Rumsfeld's response to this guy. Bush
actually responded better than I expected. I guess occasionally, *some*
days.... he gets lucky.
I'm sure all the family members of our troops are now getting the true
picture of just exactly what a complete butthead Rumsfeld is.
Woods
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Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are that a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up for this question.
Tony
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11 Dec 2004 09:35:42 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are
that a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up for this question.
Tony
And, so, are liberals responsible for the inadequate protection of
soldiers' war vehicles then??
Doc ;D
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"Doc"
wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041210111807.16189.00001867@mb-m02.aol.com...
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are
that a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up for this question.
Tony
And, so, are liberals responsible for the inadequate protection of
soldiers' war vehicles then??
Doc ;D
They sure are, the Liberals have voted against every increase in the Military
budget for 40 years, and even last year mnay of them voted to deny our troops
more $$$, yet they now want to act as if they're concerned.
Tony
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14 Dec 2004 01:31:35 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041212102133.06631.00001162@mb-m24.aol.com...
"Doc"
wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041210111807.16189.00001867@mb-m02.aol.com...
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which
are
that a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up for this question.
Tony
And, so, are liberals responsible for the inadequate protection of
soldiers' war vehicles then??
Doc ;D
They sure are, the Liberals have voted against every increase in the
Military
budget for 40 years, and even last year mnay of them voted to deny our
troops
more $$$, yet they now want to act as if they're concerned.
Tony
Man, you sure are stupid and poorly informed! You sure believe all that
right-wing propaganda like the little neocon poodle dog you are.
Democrats by a majority passed in both houses, along with Republicans, the
largest defense bill in nearly 20 years in 2002. During the Korean and
Viet Nam War periods, Demos had little opposition to record defense bills
passed by Congress.
Your showboat Leader has had a lot of taxpayer money to spend on the
military, but where was the money allotted to beef up armor on ALL
military vehicles?
Maybe the article below might enlighten you. ;Doc
G.I.S' PAYCHECKS FUND TRUCK ARMOR
So the Pentagon leadership has finally recognized that they need to armor
up their trucks. But they've settled on a damn peculiar way of paying for
the work. They're dipping into soldiers' paychecks to do it.
Let me explain. For this fiscal year, 2005, Rummy & Co. asked for $25.7
million to secure its fleet of trucks. And Congress granted the request,
when it passed the Pentagon's budget in July.
But by November 19th, the Pentagon brass realized they had screwed up,
Defense Department documents show. There was no way $25.7 million could
pay for armoring the M915 trucks, Medium Tactical Vehicles, and other
vehicles hauling supplies through Iraq; to do the job right, more like
$580 million would be needed. The chiefs had under budgeted, more than
twenty-fold.
The problem was, the Defense Department's budget for the year was already
passed. And it was too early, yet, for a second, "supplemental" funding
bill. So, instead, the Pentagon's eyeshades decided to "reprogram" money,
from one military project into another.
Now, the accountants could have taken money from hulking, multi-billion
dollar items, like the F-22 fighter or the creaky missile defense program.
But no. Instead, the cash - along with about a billion dollars in other
funds -- was taken from the Army's payroll. From the accounts to pay
soldiers in the field.
With that money gone, there's now only enough cash left in the register to
keep paying soldiers until May or so. If a "supplemental" budget bill -
rumored to be $75 billion or more -- isn't passed by then, there will be
no paychecks for G.I.s.
Congress will never let that happen, of course. No politician in his right
mind is going to keep soldiers from getting paid. So, in the end, G.I.s
will get the money they've been promised.
But, still, wouldn't it have been better to get this armor money together
in the first place? The war has been going on since last March. Planning
for it started in 2002. And only on November 19th did the Pentagon realize
it needed more money to armor up its trucks?
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001269.html
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11 Dec 2004 10:34:31 AM |
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Doc wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041210111807.16189.00001867@mb-m02.aol.com...
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are
that a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up for this question.
Tony
And, so, are liberals responsible for the inadequate protection of
soldiers' war vehicles then??
Doc ;D
Don't be silly Doc, of course they are.
When Tony loses a stocking (I mean sock), who do you think is
responsible? LIBERALS!
-A
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13 Dec 2004 05:32:03 AM |
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On 10 Dec 2004 16:18:07 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are that a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up for this question.
Tony
I never read that he/she was a liberal anywhere in that post.
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13 Dec 2004 06:06:43 AM |
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Cuan wrote:
I never read that he/she was a liberal
anywhere in that post.
It's true cuan.......I'm now on Tony's "Liberal Piece of *****" list.
It's just ng politics, you see....If you don't walk in LOCK STEP with
him then you are forever branded. heheheheh! :)
My 5 year old mind finds it quite amusing!
SuZanne
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13 Dec 2004 07:41:45 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:06:43 -0500, (Su Zanadu)
wrote:
Cuan wrote:
I never read that he/she was a liberal
anywhere in that post.
It's true cuan.......I'm now on Tony's "Liberal Piece of *****" list.
Hehe, welcome! Good to have you on board! ;-)
It's just ng politics, you see....If you don't walk in LOCK STEP with
him then you are forever branded. heheheheh! :)
Reminds me of all those Nazi troops marching foot-to-***** through
Berlin. Himmel! Herr Tony! Achtung!
My 5 year old mind finds it quite amusing!
SuZanne
Yes, I also find younger minds amusing. :-)
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13 Dec 2004 08:23:07 AM |
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Cuan wrote:
It's true cuan.......I'm now on Tony's
"Liberal Piece of *****" list.
Hehe, welcome! Good to have you on
board! ;-)
hey thanks! :)
It's actually not too bad.........UP HERE. ;)
Sorry to rush out but I'm late for work.......it's the new holiday
hours, the Mall (Where EVERYBODY knowwwwwws my name!) opens at 8am!
SuZanne
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14 Dec 2004 02:31:08 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:23:07 -0500, (Su Zanadu)
wrote:
Cuan wrote:
It's true cuan.......I'm now on Tony's
"Liberal Piece of *****" list.
Hehe, welcome! Good to have you on
board! ;-)
hey thanks! :)
It's actually not too bad.........UP HERE. ;)
I always strive to be on as many lists as possible...regardless of who
the administrator is. It's a fun way to meet people. ;-)
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10 Dec 2004 01:00:33 PM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are that a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up for this question.
Tony
Did the reporter also arrange the spontaneous applause?
Clearly morale ain't great.
-A
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11 Dec 2004 05:49:08 AM |
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Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are that
a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up >>for this question.
Tony
Did the reporter also arrange the >spontaneous applause?
There wasn't much. Many were looking at this guy is disbelief.
Clearly morale ain't great.
-A
*****, moral is as good as can be expected in a war zone.
I know you are wishing for our collapse and defeat in Iraq, but that just goes
to show what you really are.
Tony
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11 Dec 2004 07:58:06 AM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are that
a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up >>for this question.
Tony
Did the reporter also arrange the >spontaneous applause?
There wasn't much. Many were looking at this guy is disbelief.
Clearly morale ain't great.
-A
*****, moral is as good as can be expected in a war zone.
I know you are wishing for our collapse and defeat in Iraq, but that just goes
to show what you really are.
Hell no, that would be you <== resurrect Saddam. Look group, look! Once
again I am proven right, as I have always said over many years, blah,
blah cliché, blah!
I’ve a 3 year-old prediction languishing in the archive that the USA
would be "stuck" in Iraq for a decade or more... I'd hardly be wishing
for defeat, would I?
-A
Tony
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12 Dec 2004 09:19:24 AM |
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Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are
that
a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up >>for this question.
Tony
Did the reporter also arrange the >spontaneous applause?
There wasn't much. Many were looking >>at this guy is disbelief.
Clearly morale ain't great.
-A
*****, moral is as good as can be >>expected in a war zone.
I know you are wishing for our collapse >>and defeat in Iraq, but that just
goes to >>show what you really are.
Hell no,
Hell yeah.
I’ve a 3 year-old prediction
-A
3 year old? We haven't even been there 2 years yet.
Tony
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12 Dec 2004 09:46:25 AM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Of course a moron posted this without finding out the facts, which are
that
a
Liberal news reporter set Rumsfeld up >>for this question.
Tony
Did the reporter also arrange the >spontaneous applause?
There wasn't much. Many were looking >>at this guy is disbelief.
Clearly morale ain't great.
-A
*****, moral is as good as can be >>expected in a war zone.
I know you are wishing for our collapse >>and defeat in Iraq, but that just
goes to >>show what you really are.
Hell no,
Hell yeah.
I’ve a 3 year-old prediction
-A
3 year old? We haven't even been there 2 years yet.
Brilliant, Einstein, pre-dictions come before the event.
-A
Tony
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12 Dec 2004 10:09:39 AM |
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Absolute Zero
wrote:
Brilliant, Einstein, pre-dictions come >before the event.
And you predicted in 2001 that we would be in Iraq for 10 years?
Tony
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12 Dec 2004 10:34:03 AM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
Brilliant, Einstein, pre-dictions come >before the event.
And you predicted in 2001 that we would be in Iraq for 10 years?
"You'll be stuck there for a lot longer than you imagine."
I put my neck on the block 4th April 2003 with a figure.
-A
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12 Dec 2004 11:00:37 AM |
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Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
Brilliant, Einstein, pre-dictions come >before the event.
And you predicted in 2001 that we would be in Iraq for 10 years?
"You'll be stuck there for a lot longer than you imagine."
I put my neck on the block 4th April 2003 with a figure.
-A
But in your earlier post you claimed to have done so 3 years ago, in your last
post you claimed to have done so before the war, now you say you did so in
April 2003?
I think you're very confused.
Tony
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13 Dec 2004 05:12:25 AM |
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On 12 Dec 2004 17:00:37 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
Brilliant, Einstein, pre-dictions come >before the event.
And you predicted in 2001 that we would be in Iraq for 10 years?
"You'll be stuck there for a lot longer than you imagine."
I put my neck on the block 4th April 2003 with a figure.
-A
But in your earlier post you claimed to have done so 3 years ago, in your last
post you claimed to have done so before the war, now you say you did so in
April 2003?
I think you're very confused.
Did you forget to take your 'smarties' this morning?
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12 Dec 2004 04:20:25 PM |
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What happens when you new clearer rise
sand?
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
Oh Joy!
Tom
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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10 Dec 2004 01:59:09 PM |
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Amy wrote:
Did the reporter also arrange the
spontaneous applause?
It doesn't matter....."the how".
It's just a great thing that it happened.
Clearly morale ain't great.
No it ain't.
And before long we will see a drastic reduction in the amount of young
men and women signing up to die.
I haven't heard the "Join the Army - See the World" commercial on TV
lately. Maybe because all you get is Death in Iraq and Kuwait?
SuZanne
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tugbertswife@webtv.net
wrote:
Amy wrote:
Did the reporter also arrange the
spontaneous applause?
It doesn't matter....."the how".
It's just a great thing that it happened.
You're a moron who hasn't got the brains to know that the very same people who
are now trying to attack our Military for lack of armour, are the very same
people who have for the past 40 years done their best to deny funding for our
Military.
They, like you, are viscious Liberals who care only about what damage they can
do to the President, they care nothing about our troops and have proven so by
trying to deprive them of funding even as recently as last year.
Tony
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13 Dec 2004 06:46:59 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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tugbertswife@webtv.net
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They, like you, are viscious Liberals
Is that a cross between vicious and viscous?
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13 Dec 2004 07:35:32 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:46:59 +0100, "tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041211065204.22097.00002112@mb-m06.aol.com...
tugbertswife@webtv.net
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They, like you, are viscious Liberals
Is that a cross between vicious and viscous?
Vicious viscosity. I like it.
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13 Dec 2004 05:09:47 AM |
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On 11 Dec 2004 11:52:04 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
tugbertswife@webtv.net
wrote:
Amy wrote:
Did the reporter also arrange the
spontaneous applause?
It doesn't matter....."the how".
It's just a great thing that it happened.
You're a moron who hasn't got the brains to know that the very same people who
are now trying to attack our Military for lack of armour, are the very same
people who have for the past 40 years done their best to deny funding for our
Military.
Uhm...just when does a military get too big? How much more funding do
you want to pay for, Tonykins?
They, like you, are viscious Liberals who care only about what damage they can
do to the President, they care nothing about our troops and have proven so by
trying to deprive them of funding even as recently as last year.
Care nothing?? Is this perhaps why they are trying to expose the
maltreatment of their troops by the neocon gov't? Perhaps you should
choose your words more carefully. From the article it wouldn't seem
that it is the liberals who are not careing.
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11 Dec 2004 08:15:04 AM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
His daily entry in the diary of a lunatic.
tugbertswife@webtv.net
wrote:
Amy wrote:
Did the reporter also arrange the
spontaneous applause?
It doesn't matter....."the how".
It's just a great thing that it happened.
You're a moron who hasn't got the brains to know that the very same people who
are now trying to attack our Military for lack of armour, are the very same
people who have for the past 40 years done their best to deny funding for our
Military.
They, like you, are viscious Liberals who care only about what damage they can
do to the President, they care nothing about our troops and have proven so by
trying to deprive them of funding even as recently as last year.
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| Title: Re: Disgruntled Soldiers Put Rumsfeld on the Spot..... |
10 Dec 2004 02:34:07 PM |
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In article <22253-41BA000D-523@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>, (Su Zanadu) wrote:
Amy wrote:
Did the reporter also arrange the
spontaneous applause?
It doesn't matter....."the how".
It's just a great thing that it happened.
Clearly morale ain't great.
No it ain't.
And before long we will see a drastic reduction in the amount of young
men and women signing up to die.
I haven't heard the "Join the Army - See the World" commercial on TV
lately. Maybe because all you get is Death in Iraq and Kuwait?
I've seen the Army of One commercial a couple of times. You know, the one where
they brag that you've been placed behind enemy lines with 2 days of food and
water, and it's been 7 days (or somesuch). I guess it's that Truth in
Advertising thang.
:-D
Woods
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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| Title: Re: Disgruntled Soldiers Put Rumsfeld on the Spot..... |
10 Dec 2004 02:15:09 PM |
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Su Zanadu wrote:
Amy wrote:
Did the reporter also arrange the
spontaneous applause?
It doesn't matter....."the how".
It's just a great thing that it happened.
Clearly morale ain't great.
No it ain't.
And before long we will see a drastic reduction in the amount of young
men and women signing up to die.
I haven't heard the "Join the Army - See the World" commercial on TV
lately. Maybe because all you get is Death in Iraq and Kuwait?
Apparently the Pentagon reports 5,500 desertions since the start of the
war... not sure what the regular figure would be.
-A
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