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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "Claude Latremouille"
Date: 10 Sep 2006 10:23:52 AM
Object: Five Years Ago
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Five years ago, this NewsGroup disintegrated. Flooded with
THOUSANDS of articles, it rapidly choked and died.
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Fortunately, it appears to have nine lives and -- although things
were never the same afterwards -- it continued to attract a few
on-topic posts, despite valiant attempts to destroy it over and
over again. Which brings us to... five years ago.
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Five years ago, quatrain I-87 was an interesting oddity. As vague
as the others, it appeared to refer to a rather inoccuous event
(as compared to what happened later on), leaving one to wonder
why would Nostradamus have had an interest in that rather
inoccuous event of February 26, 1993. First, the quatrain:
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--------------- C E N T V R I E___P R E M I E R E. -----------
----------------------- (édition de 1555) --------------------
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---- 87 - Ennosigée feu du centre de terre -------------------
--------- Fera trembler au tour de cité neufue: --------------
--------- Deux grandsrochiers long tempsferont la guerre -----
--------- Puis Arethusa rougira nouueau fleuue. --------------
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As most of those who post here can't read French, the following
is for interested lurkers.
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If you want to hide a text within a published text, or if you are
smart enough to hide more than one text within the same published
text (polygraphy), or if you are a Renaissance genius and want to
hide more than one text within the same published text *AND*
suggest in that same published text what you have hidden in it,
there are not too many cryptographic techniques you an use. In
fact, only one comes to mind, that of the cryptic anagram.
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What is it? It is an anagram in which a poetic or hermetic
license of one substituted letter per decyphered word is allowed.
Nostradamus applies this to every line of text he has ever
published, both poetry and prose. Example? Quatrain I-87.
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Because this text is coded in cryptic anagrams, it is sheer
nonsense to attempt to translate it in English. At best, we can
speak of three words in line 1, feu (= fire), centre (= center),
and terre (= earth, or world). Line 2: tour (= tower), cité
(= city), neufue (= new).
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Before February 26, 1993, this meaningful gobbledygook suggested
a volcano which makes the Earth shake around a new city. Which is
indeed what most commentators wrote about I-87.
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Then came February 26, 1993. On a scale of one to ten, a rather
minor event, causing the death of 'only' six persons, although
wounding more than one thousand. On that day, Muslim fanatics
attacked the World Trade Centre in New York, exploding a huge
bomb in its underground garage. Back to I-87.
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"Ennosigée" is a French equivalent of Neptune's Greek nickname,
'ennosigaios', the one who makes the Earth shake. This idea is
reinforced in line 2 by the "fera trembler", shall cause to
shake.
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After February 26, 1993, two words from line 1 acquire a 'new'
meaning: "centre" and "terre". Common meaning: centre and Earth.
Another possible meaning: centre and world. Obviously, nothing to
do with an event which neither occurred at the centre of the
Earth nor at the centre of the world.
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But Nostradamus is a very smart guy. He knows that the event
occurs underground, but very close to the surface. So, why speak
of the centre of the world? Because... you guessed it! Because
the name of the business complex hit by that which made it shake
is World (terre) Trade Centre (centre). Two words out of three
ain't bad, especially if you are up to your armpits in anagrams.
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Does the text reinforce that idea? Sure it does. Look at line 2
again, and - if you know French, you know that the two words "au"
and "tour" *ought* to have been printed together as "autour",
meaning 'around'
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But you know and I know that what happened on February 26, 1993
*did not* happen AROUND a new city, but that it did happen right
at the bottom of its very core, Manhattan Island. So, what about
this "au tour"?
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Well, this odd way of printing "autour" creates the word "tour",
which in French means 'tower'. Where did this event occur? At the
bottom, underground of these famous Manhattan towers.
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To confirm that interpretation of I-87, four cryptic anagrams
come to the rescue. Actually, the four cryptic anagrams *are* the
published text above, and the text which follows is the
decyphered text flowing from it:
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--------- En Feurier Nonante Trois, ceux de ------------------
--------- ce fier Islam font éuacuer deux Tours --------------
--------- du Grand U S et feront six mors et mille touchés par
--------- leur si graue et folle haine pour Israël. ----------
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In English:
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"In February Ninety Three, those of
this proud Islam cause the evacuation of two Towers
of the Great U S and shall make six dead and one thousand wounded by
their so deep and foolish hatred for Israel."
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Not only do we get a partial date, the number of casualties and
the event itself, but we get as a bonus the motive for the
attack: a deep and foolish hatred for Israel.
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Nevertheless, when I first decyphered this quatrain, in 1996, I
was surprized to see an event causing so few deaths figuring so
prominently in the very words used by Nostradamus in his
published text: fire, centre, world, shall shake, tower, new
city, all pointing to the World Trade Centre in New York. After
all, there were many other events of our past history worthy of
being represented in Nostradamus' poetry. I did not quite
understand then *why* Nostradamus was interested in that
relatively minor terrorist attack upon the US.
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On the morning of September 11, 2001, of course, it became quite
clear that Nostradamus had wanted to point to the 1993 World
Trade Centre attack as a precursor event to the 'real' event
worthy of his attention.
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Logic therefore brought me back before my plastic letters with
the knowledge everyone else had and with quatrain I-87 already
'assigned' to the WTC:
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----- Vng rude feu torture des Innocens ----------------------
----- de l'Américque, une torture Arabe que ------------------
----- deux Cités du Grand U S auront pesle-mesle - ô Horreur!,
----- puis le Cher U S tuera ung féroce Osama. ---------------
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In English:
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"A rough fire tortures innocents
of America, an Arab torture which
two Cities of the Great U S shall have topsy-turvy, O Horror!,
afterwards the Dear U S shall kill a ferocious Osama."
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Not only is Nostradamus referring to the same new city as before,
New York, but he knows that the September 11, 2001, attacks also
hit another city, Washington. So he speaks of two cities.
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Five years after, the end of the decyphered text is still
prophetic. How long will it take for this 'ferocious Osama' to be
killed by Nostradamus' 'dear US'? Dunno.
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You see, I am neither a prophet nor a seer. I just find these
hidden texts. Had Nostradamus not used polygraphy in his cypher,
one would not have been able to see the link between version 1
and version 2 of the decyphered text. Only if the encyphering
method allows for more than one solution is it possible to use
one decyphered text to discover another. In this case, the first
version led to the second.
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Clever, eh, this Nostradamus?!
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------------------- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Claude Latrémouille % -- "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' -- %
10 septembre 2006 - % cryptic anagrams in them dang verses,- %
APNCL#1481 -------- % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
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=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
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User: "Krib"

Title: Re: Five Years Ago 11 Sep 2006 10:58:18 AM
"Claude Latremouille" <cj559@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:ee1am8$mnh$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
<blah blah>

Clever, eh, this Nostradamus?!

You really shouldn't blame him for your made up ***** fraude,
he can't defend himself from your lies.
--
krib
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User: "JayJBee"

Title: Re: Five Years Ago 11 Sep 2006 01:51:49 PM
Krib wrote:

"Claude Latremouille" <cj559@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:ee1am8$mnh$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...

<blah blah>

Clever, eh, this Nostradamus?!


You really shouldn't blame him for your made up ***** fraude,
he can't defend himself from your lies.

Time did.
JayJBee
"See 'subject'"
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User: "Krib"

Title: Re: Five Years Ago 11 Sep 2006 02:26:08 PM
"JayJBee" <jayjbee@notmail.com> wrote in message news:4505b14e$0$4518$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

Krib wrote:

"Claude Latremouille" <cj559@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:ee1am8$mnh$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...

<blah blah>

Clever, eh, this Nostradamus?!


You really shouldn't blame him for your made up ***** fraude,
he can't defend himself from your lies.


Time did.

Agreed.
--
krib
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