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"Daniel babylon@usa" |
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04 Sep 2007 11:18:08 PM |
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Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
The one group calls all knowledge and experience regarding the
supernatural "tricks of the devil", "Satanic", "mental illness",
ad nauseam. Whereas the other group calls the very same things
"claptrap", "nonsense", "mental illness", dittos ad nauseam ad
infinitum. Just as a rose is a rose, ***** is *****. And
fundamentalism, *****, by any other name stinks just as bad.
Are the fundamentalist Jews, Muslims, et al guilty of the very
same sins of ignorance? You bet they are! (see Leviticus 5:17).
So, the only difference between the two groups is their choice
of words to describe the supernatural and all matters related
thereto. Neither group has one clue what they're talking about,
so they rely on group-think to support their servile stupidity.
No independent thought permitted. No questioning their worldly
so-called "authorities". Do as your told, believe what we tell
you, and don't think for yourself. That describes both groups.
They'll say "the bible says this", even though they're quoting
pitifully oversimplified, "dumbed-down" translations for their
fundamentalist minions. The other group will selectively quote
from the very same "bible-for-dummies" translations, when they
think it suits them, even though they don't believe a word of
it, regardless of the translation quoted. Neither group quotes
from the Latin Vulgate, but always from "dumbed-down" versions.
Or when they quote words or phrases from the original Greek or
Hebrew (with smatterings of Aramaic), they'll claim "this word
means this", even though the ancient author had a *far* better
understanding and profound comprehension of the subject matter.
For example, try holding an intelligent discussion with either
group about ancient mythology, astrology, tarot, souls, karma,
reincarnation, ghosts, hauntings, UFOs, or anything you can
think of that might fall into the category of "supernatural",
and you'll always get the same, autonomic, knee-jerk decrial.
All things called "occult", all things called "supernatural",
by the fundamentalists, are called "evil", or else are called
"rubbish", etc. Both groups become very apprehensive when you
bring up any such "forbidden" subject matter. It's FORBIDDEN!
The funny part is, Atheists are predictably quick to protest
with something like "that's against Christianity!" "How dare
you talk favorably and God-forbid knowledgeably about things
which are officially verboten to be practiced by Christians!"
Of course, the fundie Christians say exactly the same thing.
You see? Their own words prove that both groups share a great
deal in common, and a great deal more than they care to admit.
And I won't even get into what they believe about Jesus Christ,
not here. I'll write another article dedicated to that subject.
Boy, won't these fundamentalist Christians -and- fundamentalist
Atheists be surprised as holy ever-livin' Hell at Judgment Day,
and die in shame of identical causes. In fact, pretty much the
whole fundamentalist world is about to be in for one very rude
awakening. Think of it as an apocalyptic "attitude-adjustment".
"ecce venit ***** nubibus et videbit eum omnis oculus et qui eum
pupugerunt et plangent se super eum omnes tribus terrae etiam
amen"--Apocalypsis 1:7, editio Vulgata
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
05 Sep 2007 01:33:22 AM |
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Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians
and fundie Atheists.
There's a huge difference. I haven't met anyone that I
could absolutely/positively identify as a "Fundy"
atheist, but I can't swing a dead cat without hitting
numerous fundy "Christians."
I've met countless people who are very closed minded
on certain specific issues, and atheists are as
proportionally represented in that as other non-fundies.
But fundies aren't just closed minded when it comes
to their religious beliefs, they define the world and
everything in it in terms of their beliefs.
For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
The one group calls all knowledge and experience regarding the
supernatural "tricks of the devil", "Satanic", "mental illness",
ad nauseam. Whereas the other group calls the very same things
"claptrap", "nonsense", "mental illness", dittos ad nauseam ad
infinitum. Just as a rose is a rose, ***** is *****. And
fundamentalism, *****, by any other name stinks just as bad.
Are the fundamentalist Jews, Muslims, et al guilty of the very
same sins of ignorance? You bet they are! (see Leviticus 5:17).
So, the only difference between the two groups is their choice
of words to describe the supernatural and all matters related
thereto. Neither group has one clue what they're talking about,
so they rely on group-think to support their servile stupidity.
No independent thought permitted. No questioning their worldly
so-called "authorities". Do as your told, believe what we tell
you, and don't think for yourself. That describes both groups.
They'll say "the bible says this", even though they're quoting
pitifully oversimplified, "dumbed-down" translations for their
fundamentalist minions. The other group will selectively quote
from the very same "bible-for-dummies" translations, when they
think it suits them, even though they don't believe a word of
it, regardless of the translation quoted. Neither group quotes
from the Latin Vulgate, but always from "dumbed-down" versions.
Or when they quote words or phrases from the original Greek or
Hebrew (with smatterings of Aramaic), they'll claim "this word
means this", even though the ancient author had a *far* better
understanding and profound comprehension of the subject matter.
For example, try holding an intelligent discussion with either
group about ancient mythology, astrology, tarot, souls, karma,
reincarnation, ghosts, hauntings, UFOs, or anything you can
think of that might fall into the category of "supernatural",
and you'll always get the same, autonomic, knee-jerk decrial.
All things called "occult", all things called "supernatural",
by the fundamentalists, are called "evil", or else are called
"rubbish", etc. Both groups become very apprehensive when you
bring up any such "forbidden" subject matter. It's FORBIDDEN!
The funny part is, Atheists are predictably quick to protest
with something like "that's against Christianity!" "How dare
you talk favorably and God-forbid knowledgeably about things
which are officially verboten to be practiced by Christians!"
Of course, the fundie Christians say exactly the same thing.
You see? Their own words prove that both groups share a great
deal in common, and a great deal more than they care to admit.
And I won't even get into what they believe about Jesus Christ,
not here. I'll write another article dedicated to that subject.
Boy, won't these fundamentalist Christians -and- fundamentalist
Atheists be surprised as holy ever-livin' Hell at Judgment Day,
and die in shame of identical causes. In fact, pretty much the
whole fundamentalist world is about to be in for one very rude
awakening. Think of it as an apocalyptic "attitude-adjustment".
"ecce venit ***** nubibus et videbit eum omnis oculus et qui eum
pupugerunt et plangent se super eum omnes tribus terrae etiam
amen"--Apocalypsis 1:7, editio Vulgata
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Minhttp://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
05 Sep 2007 08:06:16 AM |
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On Sep 5, 2:33 am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians
and fundie Atheists.
There's a huge difference. I haven't met anyone that I
could absolutely/positively identify as a "Fundy"
atheist, but I can't swing a dead cat without hitting
numerous fundy "Christians."
I submit you may be seeing what you want to see. Fact is, anytime
Christians are mentioned in alt.atheism the absolute most extreme
hardcore Christians are talked about as if they were the norm. They
are not. I live in the Bible Belt and I am surrounded by Christians
every day. I think you guys want every Christian in the world to be
Jerry Falwell so you can complain about it and feel superior.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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05 Sep 2007 10:21:17 AM |
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wrote:
There's a huge difference. I haven't met anyone that I
could absolutely/positively identify as a "Fundy"
atheist, but I can't swing a dead cat without hitting
numerous fundy "Christians."
I submit you may be seeing what you want to see.
Hardly. I'm more likely than anyone else in alt.atheism
to take an oppositional and/or unpopular stance.
Fact is, anytime Christians are mentioned in alt.atheism
the absolute most extreme hardcore Christians are
talked about as if they were the norm.
Or at least that's the way you insist on seeing it.
People complain about the so-called "Christians" that
threaten them, and not the ones that don't. So,
naturally they're going to be talking about those
extremists.
....not that the problem is limited to the extremists.
Phred Felps, for example, had been spewing evil in
the name of Christianity for years, and not a single
mainstream Christian organization denounced him
until he started celebrating 9/11 and picketting the
funerals of service men killed in action. When it was
the funerals of AIDS victims and Bill Clinton's mother
no "Christians" cared....
I live in the Bible Belt and I am surrounded by
Christians every day.
This situation is not unique to the bible belt. What
is unique is the stupid idea that it is unique...
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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05 Sep 2007 02:25:58 AM |
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On Sep 5, 7:33?am, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
"For example, both groups fear all things supernatural."
Odd.
Non-believers don't 'believe'. I don't 'believe'. That of course
includes the 'supernatural'. Anything beyond understanding is to be
embraced as a thing to investigate and to identify. There is no
'supernatural, therefore, nothing about the concept to fear.
Christians of course do fear things 'Supernatural'. Fear some
instances, embrace others. That is because they do believe.
Your statement, the assertion JTEM is really rather naive and
inaccurate.
Werewolfy
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
05 Sep 2007 10:10:31 AM |
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Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Your statement, the assertion JTEM is really rather naive and
inaccurate.
What's inaccurate is attributing it to me.
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
06 Sep 2007 11:51:23 AM |
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"Daniel"
Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so
rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style
religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own
words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal
Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism
from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or
some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them
apart.
You really need to establish a context for such statements.
If such a comparison is legitimate at all, I can imagine
someone comparing rigid beliefs between the two groups. For
example, there sometimes appears to be a "leap of faith" to
establish some kind of belief, whether for or against God.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and
fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things
supernatural....
That might be true of "dispensational" fundamentalists, but
it certainly isn't true in general of all Christian
fundamentalists. For example, many pentecostal groups
consider themselves "fundamentalist," and they certainly
have no hostility towards "the supernatural."
It is true, however, that the folks coming out of the 18th
century Enlightenment were obviously biased against
supernaturalism. And they were equally opposed to church
dogma, which they saw as based on supposed supernatural
visions and revelations. But some of them were also deists,
and obviously not "atheists."
randy
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
05 Sep 2007 11:40:59 AM |
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"Daniel" <babylon@usa> wrote in message
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Question.
When do you plan on shutting the ***** up?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
05 Sep 2007 10:44:00 PM |
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On Sep 5, 12:40 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Daniel" <babylon@usa> wrote in message
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Question.
When do you plan on shutting the ***** up?
My guess is that it's waiting for Armageddon, or something. Now back
to my tea leaves reading...
Olrik
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
06 Sep 2007 10:02:25 AM |
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"Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 5, 12:40 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Daniel" <babylon@usa> wrote in message
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Question.
When do you plan on shutting the ***** up?
My guess is that it's waiting for Armageddon, or something. Now back
to my tea leaves reading...
Ooooh, make mine a chai latte, please ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Olrik" |
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06 Sep 2007 09:27:42 PM |
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On Sep 6, 11:02 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Olrik" <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 5, 12:40 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Daniel" <babylon@usa> wrote in message
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Question.
When do you plan on shutting the ***** up?
My guess is that it's waiting for Armageddon, or something. Now back
to my tea leaves reading...
Ooooh, make mine a chai latte, please ;)
You can have any tea you like, Robyn, as long as it's Orange Pekoe.
;-)
Olrik
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
06 Sep 2007 11:36:04 AM |
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In article <1189050240.019872.266740@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> writes:
On Sep 5, 12:40 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Daniel" <babylon@usa> wrote in message
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Question.
When do you plan on shutting the ***** up?
My guess is that it's waiting for Armageddon,
Well, just hang on a bit longer, because:
At October much will be made clear
by ways and means of the elements.
I expect half the population gone,
global equalisation of temperature
and pressure, the time, a new race,
His perpetual age the moment where,
or at the place when, smoke clears.
Enjoy the fireworks!
Daniel Joseph Min-
So I think we'd all best gather those we
love close and ... oops, hang on
a sec, just a min here...
Um, turns out that particular apocalypse was
in October of 2000.
Never mind.
-- cary
(see: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.apocalypse/msg/08080360977506cf?dmode=source )
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| User: "John Smith" |
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05 Sep 2007 04:05:48 AM |
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"Daniel" <babylon@usa> wrote in message
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
More basic question - who do idiots like you assume your delusional
observations, and biased opinions, are absolute fact?
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: Fundamentalist Christians & Atheists: Identical Twins! |
05 Sep 2007 07:03:45 AM |
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"John Smith" <bobsyoungbro@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Daniel" <babylon@usa> wrote in message
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
More basic question - who do idiots like you assume your delusional
observations, and biased opinions, are absolute fact?
Could you please keep the noise down, my non-Santa Claus believing
'fundamentalist' imaginary atheist girlfriend is trying to sleep! She's got
to get some very important beauty sleep. She's got to say an Atheist
non-Mass to an imaginary, non-existent, Atheist non-deity in a few hours.
And, besides; you two have disturbed the one hour of prayer I set aside each
day doing everything *but* praying to the Atheist 'God' ... ummm ... uhhh
.... well you *know* what Atheist 'God' I'm referring to. He's the one
atheists don't believe exists and whose non-existent 'religion' stresses we
don't worship. In fact we spend our time during non-prayer not even
worshipping. Now *that's* devotion! Now that's 'fundamentalist'
non-devotion!
Can I hear an 'Amen'?
Greywolf
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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05 Sep 2007 11:39:11 AM |
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In article <2e1ab99deb0b751d88c0fba0a6626ae7@pseudo.borked.net> Daniel <babylon@usa> writes:
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Question.
When is that ol' Great Khan of Terror due again?
Answer:
-- cary
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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05 Sep 2007 04:10:29 PM |
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(Cary Kittrell) writes:
In article <2e1ab99deb0b751d88c0fba0a6626ae7@pseudo.borked.net> Daniel <babylon@usa> writes:
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Question.
When is that ol' Great Khan of Terror due again?
He's crapped out another couple of statements on that in the last few
days...and that's not going to be one of the occurrences on my wife's 61st
birthday. (I still won't get to combine those with Christmas presents four
days later, though. After nearly two decades, I've gotten used to that by
now. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 6 vs. Chicago, 7:35
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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05 Sep 2007 06:42:05 PM |
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The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) writes:
In article <2e1ab99deb0b751d88c0fba0a6626ae7@pseudo.borked.net> Daniel <babylon@usa> writes:
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Question.
When is that ol' Great Khan of Terror due again?
He's crapped out another couple of statements on that in the last few
days...
Really! I thought Danny had washed his hands of the whole KoT
thing some time back, after a few initial Millerite-like events.
I mean, you even notice how there's never a Great Khan
of Terror around when you REALLY need one?
Although, should Hillary get elected, I suspect that would
embody more than sufficient Khanitude for Daniel's tastes.
and that's not going to be one of the occurrences on my wife's 61st
birthday. (I still won't get to combine those with Christmas presents four
days later, though. After nearly two decades, I've gotten used to that by
now. ;-)
And a Happy Birthday to her.
-- cary
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04 Sep 2007 11:44:48 PM |
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On Sep 4, 9:18 pm, Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
LOL! Im as fundy as you can get!
You mean like ghosts and ufo's?
There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your
philosophy my dear , Daniel.
I used to live in a 'hunted place' I told my sister about it and
warned her to stop 'mesing with whatever it was'. She didnt listen.
Then something happened that we both witnessed..I wont even describe
it.... she jumped up spun around dropped what she was holding and
tears fell from her eyes . I just said 'I told you to stop'.
Another time I was with a co-worker on the turnpike and we both
watched a huge silver ball fly through the air in broad daylight for
about a minute. This thing was going faster than anything we had ever
seen before and only a couple hundred feet up and less than mile away.
If he hadn't seen it too I wouldn't say anything. In fact he was
watching it longer than I was.
If I wrote a book about all these things no one would believe it.
There have been many.
Although, I did write a book about the Book of Revelation.
Our Master Jesus Christ is coming to rule the Earth as King!
:)
The one group calls all knowledge and experience regarding the
supernatural "tricks of the devil", "Satanic", "mental illness",
ad nauseam. Whereas the other group calls the very same things
"claptrap", "nonsense", "mental illness", dittos ad nauseam ad
infinitum. Just as a rose is a rose, ***** is *****. And
fundamentalism, *****, by any other name stinks just as bad.
Are the fundamentalist Jews, Muslims, et al guilty of the very
same sins of ignorance? You bet they are! (see Leviticus 5:17).
So, the only difference between the two groups is their choice
of words to describe the supernatural and all matters related
thereto. Neither group has one clue what they're talking about,
so they rely on group-think to support their servile stupidity.
No independent thought permitted. No questioning their worldly
so-called "authorities". Do as your told, believe what we tell
you, and don't think for yourself. That describes both groups.
They'll say "the bible says this", even though they're quoting
pitifully oversimplified, "dumbed-down" translations for their
fundamentalist minions. The other group will selectively quote
from the very same "bible-for-dummies" translations, when they
think it suits them, even though they don't believe a word of
it, regardless of the translation quoted. Neither group quotes
from the Latin Vulgate, but always from "dumbed-down" versions.
Or when they quote words or phrases from the original Greek or
Hebrew (with smatterings of Aramaic), they'll claim "this word
means this", even though the ancient author had a *far* better
understanding and profound comprehension of the subject matter.
For example, try holding an intelligent discussion with either
group about ancient mythology, astrology, tarot, souls, karma,
reincarnation, ghosts, hauntings, UFOs, or anything you can
think of that might fall into the category of "supernatural",
and you'll always get the same, autonomic, knee-jerk decrial.
All things called "occult", all things called "supernatural",
by the fundamentalists, are called "evil", or else are called
"rubbish", etc. Both groups become very apprehensive when you
bring up any such "forbidden" subject matter. It's FORBIDDEN!
The funny part is, Atheists are predictably quick to protest
with something like "that's against Christianity!" "How dare
you talk favorably and God-forbid knowledgeably about things
which are officially verboten to be practiced by Christians!"
Of course, the fundie Christians say exactly the same thing.
You see? Their own words prove that both groups share a great
deal in common, and a great deal more than they care to admit.
And I won't even get into what they believe about Jesus Christ,
not here. I'll write another article dedicated to that subject.
Boy, won't these fundamentalist Christians -and- fundamentalist
Atheists be surprised as holy ever-livin' Hell at Judgment Day,
and die in shame of identical causes. In fact, pretty much the
whole fundamentalist world is about to be in for one very rude
awakening. Think of it as an apocalyptic "attitude-adjustment".
"ecce venit ***** nubibus et videbit eum omnis oculus et qui eum
pupugerunt et plangent se super eum omnes tribus terrae etiam
amen"--Apocalypsis 1:7, editio Vulgata
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Minhttp://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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"Abrams1117" <John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 4, 9:18 pm, Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
LOL! Im as fundy as you can get!
You mean like ghosts and ufo's?
There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your
philosophy my dear , Daniel.
I used to live in a 'hunted place' I told my sister about it and
warned her to stop 'mesing with whatever it was'. She didnt listen.
Then something happened that we both witnessed..I wont even describe
it.... she jumped up spun around dropped what she was holding and
tears fell from her eyes . I just said 'I told you to stop'.
Another time I was with a co-worker on the turnpike and we both
watched a huge silver ball fly through the air in broad daylight for
about a minute. This thing was going faster than anything we had ever
seen before and only a couple hundred feet up and less than mile away.
If he hadn't seen it too I wouldn't say anything. In fact he was
watching it longer than I was.
If I wrote a book about all these things no one would believe it.
There have been many.
Although, I did write a book about the Book of Revelation.
Our Master Jesus Christ is coming to rule the Earth as King!
Ooooooooooookay.
Done a lot of drugs, have you?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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05 Sep 2007 12:09:19 PM |
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On Sep 5, 9:40 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Abrams1117" <John1...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 4, 9:18 pm, Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
LOL! Im as fundy as you can get!
You mean like ghosts and ufo's?
There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your
philosophy my dear , Daniel.
I used to live in a 'hunted place' I told my sister about it and
warned her to stop 'mesing with whatever it was'. She didnt listen.
Then something happened that we both witnessed..I wont even describe
it.... she jumped up spun around dropped what she was holding and
tears fell from her eyes . I just said 'I told you to stop'.
Another time I was with a co-worker on the turnpike and we both
watched a huge silver ball fly through the air in broad daylight for
about a minute. This thing was going faster than anything we had ever
seen before and only a couple hundred feet up and less than mile away.
If he hadn't seen it too I wouldn't say anything. In fact he was
watching it longer than I was.
If I wrote a book about all these things no one would believe it.
There have been many.
Although, I did write a book about the Book of Revelation.
Our Master Jesus Christ is coming to rule the Earth as King!
Ooooooooooookay.
Done a lot of drugs, have you?
--
Need to do alot more reading? Or do you hang out and do drugs with
your sister and while at work?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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05 Sep 2007 12:18:54 PM |
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"Abrams1117" <John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:1189012159.941080.267750@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 5, 9:40 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Abrams1117" <John1...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:1188967488.324757.99310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 9:18 pm, Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
LOL! Im as fundy as you can get!
You mean like ghosts and ufo's?
There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your
philosophy my dear , Daniel.
I used to live in a 'hunted place' I told my sister about it and
warned her to stop 'mesing with whatever it was'. She didnt listen.
Then something happened that we both witnessed..I wont even describe
it.... she jumped up spun around dropped what she was holding and
tears fell from her eyes . I just said 'I told you to stop'.
Another time I was with a co-worker on the turnpike and we both
watched a huge silver ball fly through the air in broad daylight for
about a minute. This thing was going faster than anything we had ever
seen before and only a couple hundred feet up and less than mile away.
If he hadn't seen it too I wouldn't say anything. In fact he was
watching it longer than I was.
If I wrote a book about all these things no one would believe it.
There have been many.
Although, I did write a book about the Book of Revelation.
Our Master Jesus Christ is coming to rule the Earth as King!
Ooooooooooookay.
Done a lot of drugs, have you?
--
Need to do alot more reading?
A lot is two words, not one.
Or do you hang out and do drugs with
your sister and while at work?
What sister?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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| User: "Borked Pseudo Mailed" |
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05 Sep 2007 01:24:22 AM |
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Just as a rose is a rose...
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=Abrams1117+%3CJohn1117@peoplepc.com%3E&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=4&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=2007&safe=off
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| User: "John Baker" |
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05 Sep 2007 05:03:45 PM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:44:48 -0700, Abrams1117 <John1117@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
On Sep 4, 9:18 pm, Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
LOL! Im as fundy as you can get!
You mean like ghosts and ufo's?
There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your
philosophy my dear , Daniel.
I used to live in a 'hunted place' I told my sister about it and
warned her to stop 'mesing with whatever it was'. She didnt listen.
Then something happened that we both witnessed..I wont even describe
it.... she jumped up spun around dropped what she was holding and
tears fell from her eyes . I just said 'I told you to stop'.
Another time I was with a co-worker on the turnpike and we both
watched a huge silver ball fly through the air in broad daylight for
about a minute. This thing was going faster than anything we had ever
seen before and only a couple hundred feet up and less than mile away.
If he hadn't seen it too I wouldn't say anything. In fact he was
watching it longer than I was.
If I wrote a book about all these things no one would believe it.
There have been many.
Although, I did write a book about the Book of Revelation.
Our Master Jesus Christ is coming to rule the Earth as King!
I'd like to know what you're smoking ... so I can steer clear of it.
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05 Sep 2007 07:45:48 PM |
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On Sep 5, 3:03 pm, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:44:48 -0700, Abrams1117 <John1...@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
On Sep 4, 9:18 pm, Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
LOL! Im as fundy as you can get!
You mean like ghosts and ufo's?
There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your
philosophy my dear , Daniel.
I used to live in a 'hunted place' I told my sister about it and
warned her to stop 'mesing with whatever it was'. She didnt listen.
Then something happened that we both witnessed..I wont even describe
it.... she jumped up spun around dropped what she was holding and
tears fell from her eyes . I just said 'I told you to stop'.
Another time I was with a co-worker on the turnpike and we both
watched a huge silver ball fly through the air in broad daylight for
about a minute. This thing was going faster than anything we had ever
seen before and only a couple hundred feet up and less than mile away.
If he hadn't seen it too I wouldn't say anything. In fact he was
watching it longer than I was.
If I wrote a book about all these things no one would believe it.
There have been many.
Although, I did write a book about the Book of Revelation.
Our Master Jesus Christ is coming to rule the Earth as King!
I'd like to know what you're smoking ... so I can steer clear of it.
That's why I nvr would have said anything if I didnt have witnesses.
If only we had a cam corder on the NJTPK we could have made a
fortune.
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06 Sep 2007 10:02:00 AM |
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"Abrams1117" <John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 5, 3:03 pm, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
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I'd like to know what you're smoking ... so I can steer clear of it.
That's why I nvr would have said anything if I didnt have witnesses.
If only we had a cam corder on the NJTPK we could have made a
fortune.
Yeah, sure.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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06 Sep 2007 01:46:43 PM |
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On Sep 6, 8:02 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Abrams1117" <John1...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:1189039548.714551.251370@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 5, 3:03 pm, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
snip
I'd like to know what you're smoking ... so I can steer clear of it.
That's why I nvr would have said anything if I didnt have witnesses.
If only we had a cam corder on the NJTPK we could have made a
fortune.
Yeah, sure.
--
Swear to G-D. I was driving south, and it was a sunny cloudless late
morning/early afternoon. We had just passed Newark Airport and saw
many planes coming and going. Way off in the distance to the left I
saw the sun glint off another plane. I was about to look away, but
something wasn't right. As we got closer (it was on the other side of
the highway heading toward us) I just stared at it. It looked 'odd'.
Then I knew..it was a helicopter...no wings...but it still looked
odd....where are the rotors? I started thining 'What the $%@ is
that?'...It got closer..."WHAT THE $@$# IS THAT?!'...I said out loud,
'BOB! What the %#@%#! is that!?'
His voice cracked, 'I DONT KNOW!'
It shot passed us going much much much faster than any plane..zip!
There was no sound, it didnt skake, roll, or bob...it just went
straight. It was a big silver ball.
He said it crossed over the highway then turned north, thats where I
saw it. It was moving like the proverbial bat out of hell.
I can only guess what it was; either a gov surveillance drone or some
weird ball lightning. Either way it would have made one #%!%!$ of a
fantastic video!
Thinking about it now, there are flying models you can buy that look
like discs and have rotors inside. It would be nothing to make it into
a sphere having the rotor(s) inside.
My bet, in 20 years the Gov will unveil their 'brand new'
surveillance drone; a silver ball.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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06 Sep 2007 05:45:42 PM |
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"Abrams1117" <John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 6, 8:02 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Abrams1117" <John1...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:1189039548.714551.251370@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 5, 3:03 pm, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
snip
I'd like to know what you're smoking ... so I can steer clear of it.
That's why I nvr would have said anything if I didnt have witnesses.
If only we had a cam corder on the NJTPK we could have made a
fortune.
Yeah, sure.
--
Swear to G-D. I was driving south, and it was a sunny cloudless late
morning/early afternoon. We had just passed Newark Airport
You a Jersey boy?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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05 Sep 2007 08:48:15 PM |
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On Sep 5, 2:18 pm, Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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Question. Why is unwarily-brainwashed fundamentalism so rampant
among Atheists, Christians, and other "fundie"-style religions?
When you compare their beliefs, as expressed in their own words,
it is astonishing how much alike they are. Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that the line that divides fundamentalist Atheism from
fundamentalist Christianity is "finer than frog's hair" or some-
thing to that effect? It really is difficult to tell them apart.
They are nearly indistinguishable, fundie Christians and fundie
Atheists. For example, both groups fear all things supernatural.
It's like they have no insight into anything that isn't mundane.
No supernatural experience, no supernatural understanding, nada.
Any Christian or Atheist who admits to having such supernatural
experiences and understanding, obviously isn't a fundamentalist,
as holds true for such gifted souls of any religious persuasion.
But let's talk about those who don't, fundie Xians and Atheists...
The one group calls all knowledge and experience regarding the
supernatural "tricks of the devil", "Satanic", "mental illness",
ad nauseam. Whereas the other group calls the very same things
"claptrap", "nonsense", "mental illness", dittos ad nauseam ad
infinitum. Just as a rose is a rose, ***** is *****. And
fundamentalism, *****, by any other name stinks just as bad.
Are the fundamentalist Jews, Muslims, et al guilty of the very
same sins of ignorance? You bet they are! (see Leviticus 5:17).
So, the only difference between the two groups is their choice
of words to describe the supernatural and all matters related
thereto. Neither group has one clue what they're talking about,
so they rely on group-think to support their servile stupidity.
No independent thought permitted. No questioning their worldly
so-called "authorities". Do as your told, believe what we tell
you, and don't think for yourself. That describes both groups.
They'll say "the bible says this", even though they're quoting
pitifully oversimplified, "dumbed-down" translations for their
fundamentalist minions. The other group will selectively quote
from the very same "bible-for-dummies" translations, when they
think it suits them, even though they don't believe a word of
it, regardless of the translation quoted. Neither group quotes
from the Latin Vulgate, but always from "dumbed-down" versions.
Or when they quote words or phrases from the original Greek or
Hebrew (with smatterings of Aramaic), they'll claim "this word
means this", even though the ancient author had a *far* better
understanding and profound comprehension of the subject matter.
For example, try holding an intelligent discussion with either
group about ancient mythology, astrology, tarot, souls, karma,
reincarnation, ghosts, hauntings, UFOs, or anything you can
think of that might fall into the category of "supernatural",
and you'll always get the same, autonomic, knee-jerk decrial.
All things called "occult", all things called "supernatural",
by the fundamentalists, are called "evil", or else are called
"rubbish", etc. Both groups become very apprehensive when you
bring up any such "forbidden" subject matter. It's FORBIDDEN!
The funny part is, Atheists are predictably quick to protest
with something like "that's against Christianity!" "How dare
you talk favorably and God-forbid knowledgeably about things
which are officially verboten to be practiced by Christians!"
Of course, the fundie Christians say exactly the same thing.
You see? Their own words prove that both groups share a great
deal in common, and a great deal more than they care to admit.
And I won't even get into what they believe about Jesus Christ,
not here. I'll write another article dedicated to that subject.
Boy, won't these fundamentalist Christians -and- fundamentalist
Atheists be surprised as holy ever-livin' Hell at Judgment Day,
and die in shame of identical causes. In fact, pretty much the
whole fundamentalist world is about to be in for one very rude
awakening. Think of it as an apocalyptic "attitude-adjustment".
"ecce venit ***** nubibus et videbit eum omnis oculus et qui eum
pupugerunt et plangent se super eum omnes tribus terrae etiam
amen"--Apocalypsis 1:7, editio Vulgata
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Minhttp://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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There is a big difference. One group will cling to the words of
Elohim and be closed minded to man's tradition the other will cling to
the words of men and resist Elohim's traditions.
As far as supernatural experiences it's very scriptural to except
supernatural influences as a part of life and we who believe in
scriptures know to test the spirits. Those who cling to mens
tradition believe anything that comes there way except the scriptural
influence because they are in rebellion against them.
The best example is creationism vs. evolution. Evolution says that
energy formed and created everything even if this goes against every
law of physics and they call it a big bang. They except this as
scriptures and worship nothing but those who support the religion they
have chosen even if they have no proof. Millions of years ago become,
"Once upon a time..."
Evolution is a religion taken by faith and Darwin is the Messiah.
Creationism is a religion taken by faith and Yeshua is Messiah.
Neither can show proof except written words and both must consider the
source.
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06 Sep 2007 04:15:13 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:18:08 -0600 (MDT), Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
Wasn't it Hal Lindsey
who said that
Perhaps the only published author more looney than Min...
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05 Sep 2007 07:41:01 AM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:18:08 -0600, Daniel wrote:
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Question.
Why does Min the Psychotic post to alt.atheism?
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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05 Sep 2007 11:44:53 AM |
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In article <neqdnaJxBPNAPkPbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@giganews.com> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> writes:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:18:08 -0600, Daniel wrote:
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Question.
Why does Min the Psychotic post to alt.atheism?
When his bile is in the seventh quadrant and his
choler is ascendent, he can't help himself.
-- cary
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